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all of the olympics is the all-around gymnastics final for individuals. suni lee has it. simone biles was cheering her out, and -- >> congratulations to suni. so proud of her. thank you very much. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, biden's message to the american public -- you don't have to die as he gives federal employees a choice, get vaccinated or get tested. did the president go far enough? is a nationwide mandate what is needed right now? and a police sergeant is speaking out after his gripping testimony of the january 6 committee. what does he say to those who mocked him? plus, the former ceo of, now the biggest donor to the arizona audit. and the cyber ninjas who are
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conducting it. it's not the first time. let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, it is literally about life and death. those are the words from joe biden as he announced that the nation's largest employer, the federal government, will tell its employees will get a vaccine or face regular testing. >> every federal government employee will be asked to attest to their vaccination status. anyone who does not attest or is not vaccinated will be required to mask, no matter where they work. test one or two times a week to see if they have acquired covid. social distancing, and generally will not be allowed to travel for work. >> he also urged states to use federal funding to give $100 to anyone who gets fully vaccinated and addressing why he stopped short of a mandate for the entire country.
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>> it's still a question whether the federal government can main date the whole country. i don't know that yet. >> all right, look, this is way more aggressive than we have seen biden and the administration to this point. and it is a big step in the right direction, as the u.s. is averaging nearly 64,000 new cases a day. but with only 49% of the united states fully vaccinated, this new push could be a lot stronger. extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures. not like get vaccinated or get tested. but get vaccinated or get out. i mean, that is what we're seeing from more and more private companies. a list of companies mandating vaccines continues to grow. google, netflix, facebook, morgan stanley, the washington post, saks fifth avenue. their message is stronger than that of the government. they're saying get a shot or you're not welcome in the office. for some companies it goes further. it includes workers, but also any customers.
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here's danny mire, the founder of the burger chain shake shack. >> if you really want to go unvaccinated, you can dine somewhere else and you can go work somewhere else. >> he's not mincing words. these business leaders aren't mississippiing word mincing words when it comes to getting the vaccine. but the biden administration has gone out of its way to make sure they're not recounting on vacci mandates. >> what you want see is a requirement from the federal government to have people get vaccinated. >> you don't want to mandate and try to force anyone to take a vaccine. >> well, everyone who i just showed, though, has said and knows in order to end the pandemic, the answer is vaccines. >> we need more people to get vaccinated to stop this pandemic. >> the vaccinations remain the
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bedrock of ending this pandemic. >> the end game of this all, george, is going to get people vaccinated. >> well, they couldn't be any more clear on that. the u.s. has a long way to go on vaccinations. experts say 85% or more americans need to be vaccinated to reach herd immunity with variants like delta and, like i said, only 49% of americans have been fully vaccinated. many of the unvaccinated are republicans. most polling shoes 50% to 60% are veited compared to 80% of democrats. according to the last poll, 38% of those who refuse to get the vaccine say they don't trust the government. and why would they when they hear comments like this on a daily basis from elected republicans. >> i'm not vaccinated, and until there's some science -- >> i just made my own personal decision that i'm not getting vaccinated. >> i'm talking to doctors since day one they've been concerned about vaccines of people who
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have been affected with covid. >> don't come knocking on my door with your fauci ouchy. you leave us the hell alone! >> so not only do some lawmakers claim they don't want to get vaccinated, many of those lawmakers also have no desire to slow the spread. today, the holding of a press conference to accuse the president of punishing americans with a mask requirement. perhaps if more republicans stood up to the misinformation before it spiraled out of control, things would be different now. biden praising mcconnell after he bought ads on more than 100 radio stations with this message. >> as a young boy, i faced a different disease. i contracted polio. back then, it took decades for us to develop a vaccine. this time, it took less than a year for us to develop three highly effective covid vaccines. it's nothing short of a modern medical miracle.
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every american should take advantage of this miracle and get vaccinated. it's the only way we're going to defeat covid. >> an important message from someone who had polio. just imagine how much good that kind of a loud, public message could have done eight months ago when the vaccine was first approved. but when 33% of those the not vaccinated say they will definitely not get the shot, nothing is going to change their mind, has the damage already been done? jeff zeleny is live outside the white house. joe biden taking the unvaccinated on in a more aggressive way, saying there could be stricter requirements going forward, even as they're far short of what many private companies are doing already. >> reporter: hearing joe biden today, there is no doubt we have not heard him speak like this since the very beginning of the pandemic when he was first taking office, saying look, i'm going oh tell it straight to the
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american people. he acknowledged the fact that cases are going to rise. we have not heard him say that either. if you look at what's happened in july, when he stood on the south lawn here at the white house and celebrated independence from covid, there's been a steady crescendo going forward of what we heard today. a couple of important points. by mandating, not using that word and stopping far short of it, but requiring federal employees, they believe they are giving more latitude to private sector companies. that's the feedback they were getting from companies that they wanted to see the company do something. i thought very interestingly, we heard the president say for the first time, he asked the justice department to look into the legality of requiring vaccines. he didn't rule out the government cannot mandate vaccines, he said we'll look into that. that's highly unlikely for this white house to offer a blanket mandate. what he did today was essentially try and shake the
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conscience of the country. i'm told this would have been a primetime speech had it not been for the olympics. this is a message they wanted to get out. even if people get shots, we're talking six weeks before nip is fully vaccinated. so the combination of the federal workforce, also the military, a very key point today, urging his defense secretary to study this. the question is, is anyone still listening to him at all? perhaps the delta variant is the biggest argument of all that people might be afraid of this and afraid of catching it. >> jeff zeleny, thank you very much. i want to go now to dr. mark mcclellan, an independent director on johnson & johnson's board. so i appreciate your time. thanks for coming on. so private companies are starting to say get vaccinated or get out. and they're being very clear about it. joe biden is saying all federal employees must get vaccinated or get regular testing. it is well short of that. it's obviously as far as they
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think they can go right now. do you think that message goes far enough? >> i do think this message is going to make a difference, erin. not just the president, but as you mentioned, businesses around the country, governors are taking further steps. and that's because we've got this more contagious variant and people that are not vaccinated, that aren't immune for workplaces like some of the retailers that you mentioned, and as well as for hospitals, health care organizations, we need these steps in order to protect people who are working there and patience, customers, everyone else. this is part of getting back towards normal with these very effecttive vaccines. >> i want to play something joe biden said today that suggested stricter requirements could be on the way. >> i think you're going to see some institutions doing that. like you're going to fly abroad, you're going have to have proof. you're not just going to be able
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to say i got tested. >> i have to say, having flown, it is amazing that people who are not vaccinated are allowed to fly. sit this weird anomaly. do you think that is what's going to happen here for travel, getting on a plane? >> short of a vaccine requirement, we are seeing for international travel requirements for getting negative covid-19 tests. what the president announced for the federal government is short of a mandate, you're right. but it gives people a choice, and it does take account of the consequences of not being vaccinated. it requires regular testing, mask, distancing, other steps. i do see more businesses, airlines, et cetera, maybe doing something like that. it's short of a mandate for everyone to get vaccinated. it respects choice, but it recognizes that choices have consequences for those around us. >> so all of this, you know, raises the you reurgency to get
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vaccines approved by the fda. one official told us they're working as quickly as possible to get it done and the biden tw white house is watching this obsessively. the reality is, business leaders and governors say this is going to make a huge difference in their ability to mandate the vaccine. listen to them. >> once the vaccine is finally approved, then the state has more legal authority to mandate the vaccine. >> you get the fda to say it's approved, i can guarantee you all the places i'm involved in, if you don't get vaccinated, you will get fired. >> so do you believe that the fda needs to be moving more quickly to full approval? >> i think the fda is moving very quickly. you know, the normal deadline for even an accelerated approval like this would be early 2022.
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the fda is going to be done way, way before then. but erin, for the reasons that you said, fda that people -- the fda is not cutting any corners on this. it's like working 24/7 but doing the full load. i want to make clear, though, that emergency authorization, what we have now is not -- it's not experimental authorization. so the fda is going to be using the same evidence that has already been incorporated or showing that these vaccines are very safe and effective. it's just taking extra steps like making sure the vaccines can sit in a freezer for a year safely. other things for normal times. this is not normal times, erin. >> you're saying that there is no difference between emergency and actual authorization when it comes to safety or efficacy. >> that's right. and all of the information, all of these very large clinical trials, data on millions of people already being incorporated and updated in the
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guidance that the fda puts out, that the centers for disease control puts out, all of that is being taken into account. so people have a lot of confidence, even now. >> israel announced it's rolling out a third dose of the covid vaccine to people over the age of 60. i'm talking about the people at pfizer. i want to ask you about pfizer, because they say a third dose increases antibodies more than tenfold against the delta variant. they warn they're seeing efficacy waning after six months. they have said it's a terrible disaster if we don't start talking boosters. but joe biden saying no american needs a booster now. why do you think the government is so against a third shot right now, despite everything we're learning about the variant, and other countries are already moving to provide those boosters? >> the government is working with pfizer on getting the data submitted so that there can be an authorization. we need all that data on safety and effectiveness. so there can be an authorization
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for a booster. i think that's going to come pretty soon in the next few months, maybe sooner than that. but what we're seeing in countries other than israel, where there has been this decline in the protection against the virus is more people can transmit, more people can get mild illnesses. we haven't seen that so much in other countries like studies in england. we haven't seen many breakthrough cases that are serious here. but i do think this is coming. right now, the most important thing is for people who aren't vaccinated will get vaccinated. that's what will prevent all the spread we're living tlug hrough right now. >> doctor, thank you. next, a hospital in louisiana filled with up vaccinated coronavirus patients. some still in denial that they even have covid. >> i have patients that deny
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they have covid up until intubation. >> what do they think they have? >> they think they have -- >> and kevin mccarthy saying he'll refuse to testify about his conferences with president trump, calling the investigation a sham. and tonight, cnn learning one of joe biden's top legislative priorities, police reform, is now hanging by a thread. the sleep number 360 smart bed is on sale now. it's the most comfortable, dually-adjustable, foot-warming, temperature-balancing... proven quality night sleep we've ever made. save up to $1,000 on select sleep number 360 smart beds and adjustable bases. plus, 0% interest for 24 months. only for a limited time.
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>> tonight, there's nowhere safe, a warning from a doctor at a hospital in louisiana, admitting more coronavirus patients now than at any other point during the pandemic thus far. while many regret not getting the vaccine, others are still in denial they even have covid. miguel marquez is "outfront." >> reporter: amy madison struggles to breathe. what does it feel like to have covid? >> exhausting. extremely frustrating. tiring. and the fact that i am here now, i am furious with myself. >> reporter: why? >> because i was not vaccinated.
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>> reporter: not anti-vaccine, she says she just didn't get around to it. the 44-year-old is now one of dozens of covid-19 patients in baton rouge's our lady of the lake regional medical center. her oxygen low, her doctor says she might need a ventilator. >> i just don't want anyone else winding up like me. especially when the vaccine is so easy to get now. >> reporter: the delta variant now prevalent in the bayou state. not only is it enormously infectious -- >> the delta variant is far more contagious, right? but that viral load doesn't mean i'm going to spread it to more people, but when i inhale somebody else's breath, i'm getting a massive amount of virus. >> reporter: it is spreading everywhere, in cities and rural areas. >> that's nowhere safe. you should be vaccinated and have a mask on, because we're inundated with covid. >> reporter: ronnie smith, 47,
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says he thinks he got it from a friend outdoors. outdoors at a barbecue. he was planning to get the vaccine when covid-19 got him. >> two days after the event, it just like -- i went down on the floor and i couldn't get up. >> reporter: nurses say they've watched the number of critically ill patients grow rapidly. some anti-vaccination patients still in denial covid-19 is real. >> some people insist they're lying to them about their covid positive diagnosis. even sick people. >> reporter: who need oxygen, who might be on their way to death are still denying they have covid? >> yes. i have patients that deny they have covid all the way up to intubation. >> what do they think they have? >> think they they have a cold. >> reporter: carson baker has a kidney condition. her doctor advised getting vaccinated for now.
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she thinks she picked up the coronavirus from someone else who had it in a screened in porch. >> it just sucks, because people like myself, you can't go anywhere now, because everybody is getting sick and it doesn't matter what you do. >> reporter: lloyd douglas has been in nursing for 35 years. the last year, her hardest. frustration with sickness, death, and the unvaccinated at boiling point. >> sometimes praying isn't enough. i yell at jesus if i need to. it's head shaking, teeth grinding, knees tight, standing up, just wanting to scream from the hill tops frustrating. >> so miguel, the hospital you visited said they've had more covid patients in the last 24 hours than any other period throughout the pandemic. so it seems like thing also get
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worse than what you just showed us. >> reporter: the short answer is yes. the largest health system in the state, they have seen a 700% increase in the last month in pat patients treated. they have the bed space in many cases, hospitals across the region. they don't have the staff to adequately give proper service to everybody who is coming in. and they just keep coming. the other concern is, they're not close to the end of this wave yet. some hospitals think it's the end of september before they see the crest of this wave. then you look at fall and winter and the possibility of a new surge. >> thank you very much, miguel. "outfront" next, kevin mccarthy seems to be having a change of heart when it comes to testifying before the january 6 select committee. >> i think if they had the five members that we, the republicans want to put on there, we would gladly go. >> capital police sergeant
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tonight, house minority leader kevin mccarthy refusing to say whether he will testify in front of the january 6 select committee about his phone call with former president trump that day. >> i think if they had the five members that we, the republicans want to put on there, we would gladly go. we see it as a sham. it's not something that's serious. >> "outfront" now, capitol police sergeant ghaquilino gone. here is some of the very powerful testimony that you gave. >> i too was being crushed by the rioters. i could feel myself losing oxygen and recall thinking to myself, this is how i'm going to die, defending this entrance. it was 4:26 p.m.
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after giving cpr to one of the rioters who breached the capitol in an effort to save her life, that i finally had a chance to let my own family know that i was alive. >> sergeant gonell, it was an emotional, i know for you, hard for all of us to watch you speaking about your experience. you know, you're in some of these videos that we're looking at here, crushed by the crowd. you were beaten with a flagpole. you thought you were going to die. so now, kevin mccarthy says he's not going to testify, calling the committee itself a sham. what's your response to that, to call that committee, this search to the truth a sham? >> well, first of all, making a
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political statement to decide whether or not this is a sham or not, but i know my injuries, my fellow officer's injuries, we didn't ask for this to happen to us. we didn't ask for all those people to come to the capitol and assault us. some of them in the crowd were even saying, we're doing this for you. so let me get this straight, you're attacking me because i want you to attack me? that's not a sham, that's being assaulted. for those people who continue to say this is a sham, this is devastating for us, demoralizing. however, we are still going to continue to do our job without thinking too much about politics. the other day, we still have a job to do. and i know if i were still working and i would be on restricted duties, i would still be protecting the same members who are saying the same thing.
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but the other day, my experience and the experience from the other officers, some of us who are still suffering from those injuries more than six months later. and leading to further rehabilitation and surgeries down the road, especially me next month possibly. those are still real for us, the trauma, the blows, the surgery, the physical therapy twice a week or three times a week. as many times as we need to. those are not a sham. the sham is not acknowledging somewhat actually happened, which was an attack on our democracy and on our democratic process. think about this, if this is not when the vice president was inside the chambers, and that's when the security, when you have
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the entire chain of command down the presidency, then what is the national security stake in here? had those people gotten their hands on the nuclear codes or nuclear case that the vice president had at that time, what would have happened? you have somebody attacking your own vice president. so it's baffled my mind how they are treating this. like it was nothing. it was not that critical and severe of an attack. >> you know, i have been moved by you and hearing you speak. i know that all americans were moved by what you had to say. there was an opinion columnist for "the washington post" who wrote, barbarians stwho
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ransacked the capitol called aquilino gonell he ask a traitor. -- is a traitor. very powerful wording. you have also been a target for some from right wing media. i will play this so everyone can hear. >> best use of an exaggeration in a supporting role, the winner is aquilino gonell, who thinks the pen is literally mightier than the sword. >> we had all these items and things that were thrown at us, and used to attack us. those are weapons. no matter if it is a pen, the way they were using these items, it was to hurt officers. >> what is your reaction to someone who would move to belittle what you did? >> this is the first time i see
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that comment coming from this particular person. to watch her trash, because that's what it is, a commentator that would trash somebody who, in my opinion, wasn't there. so unless you were there in that crowd, being attacked by the rioters, you would not know, and you will never know, you never -- my devotion for the country is bigger than the vitriol that she's puking out. because that's not news. that's not worthy of saying -- but that person never served the country, will never raise her hand like i did so many times. and yes, i got emotional. but i got emotional because it
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hurt me that my patriotism is bigger, is bigger than people who are born in this country. and i have put my life on the line, not one time but multiple times, and they fail, and they continue to fail to see the sacrifices that not only i did, but all the other immigrants that were defending the capitol that day and all the contributions the immigrants do each day in this country. >> sergeant, can i ask you, because you mentioned that you may have to have another surgery. obviously, you have physical therapy. your physical wounds and scars from this are ongoing. of course,mental as well. you said during your testimony the other day that january 6, and i quote you, sergeant, continues to be a constant trauma for us literally every day. >> yes. >> are you getting the support that you need? >> i had my own mental
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therapist, the same one that i use when i was suffering from ptsd from my military service. i went back to the same group. i do have also support in another state. she came to my house one day and i continue to talk to her on a regular basis. my first lieutenant, my first line supervisor, he calls me relatively every other day or every week. so he keeps in touch with me. the department also has offers for counseling. i have also my family as well, which are a huge support for me, because i went through this trauma, i went through this, and now we have to live with someone like that person that was criticizing me for defending capitol. even though the same people who are in that building, the people
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who were attacking that building and us, they did not go in there to say -- and do this and say, are you a democrat, independent or republican? they were yelling, we are going to kill every single one of them, because they see some of them as a traitor, as a disgrace, because they wanted to stop the steal. now, that particular person, it bothers me, because this is coming from somebody who never raised her hand to become a soldier, a marine, or some were in the military, or as a law enforcement. and out of the comfort of her home, she has the audacity to belittle my sacrifice for this country when she herself has not done so. >> sergeant gonell, i appreciate your time. i thank you. >> thank you for having me. and next, the clock is ticking on one of biden's top
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new tonight, hanging by a thread. one of joe biden's top priorities, police preform, appears stalled just days before a deadline set by congressional negotiators. as cnn reports, both sides appear no closer to an agreement than they were five weeks ago when they announced a framework for a deal. "outfront" now, congresswoman karen bass of california. she is the lead police reform negotiator for house democrats. i appreciate your time tonight. i know that this has been the work of months you've been
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talking to your fellow negotiators, two deadlines for a deal have been missed, but you've still been working. august recess looming in just days. is a police reform deal in serious jeopardy of dieing? >> i don't think it's in serious jeopardy, but of course i'm concerned about it, because we're going on break. the house goes on break tomorrow. but the senate will be in next week. i know my colleagues in the senate have been meeting daily. i know i hopefully will see senator scott tomorrow, i saw senator booker yesterday. so the work goes on. of course i am frustrated. i wish this would have happened a long time ago. so until the two senators say it's over, it is not over. you know that we can talk about legislation for a long time before it actually occurs. >> yes. that's definitely true. you mentioned senator tim scott, the chief republican negotiator. we talked to manu raju last week, and he said if we're
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having the same conversations next week, then it's dead. that was a week ago. you're telling me you just spoke with him yesterday. has the conversation changed, the conversation that you had with the senator? >> yes. the conversation is changing, and the way i can describe it without going into details is that when you are negotiating something, it's important that you reach a conclusion. considering the bill, even though the focus was only on one part of the bill, the bill is quite complex, with about 15 to 20 different pieces. and so you go through each of those pieces and work your way to a point where you agree. so i don't believe that the conversation is the same this week as it was last week. >> that's hopefully a good sign. look, i know a major sticking point continues to be qualified immunity. this has been around part of this since the beginning. basically, it's the federal doctrine that makes it hard to sue police officers individually for wrongdoing.
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senator scott says that cannot be on the table. he's calling that a poisoning bill. you said eliminating it is essential. so that would seem to be two positions diametrically opposed. >> let me just tell you, the primary concern that i have is with accountability. because i want to stop seeing people brutalized and killed, period. an average of three people a day are involved in encounters with police that result in their death. that's over 1,000 people a year. so that's what i want to see stopped, and i think one way to stop it is for officers to be held accountable. but i also think there's a lot of other things that we can do that will stop the brutalization and killing of people. >> so one bipartisan deal that has been struck in the senate is the roughly $1 trillion infrastructure package. now, democrats in the house have
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had all sorts of objections with it. here are two of them. >> i think it's inadequate on many levels. i definitely can't support it in and of itself. >> this was written by three people who have no knowledge or expertise in transportation infrastructure. >> i think it needs to be substantially changed. >> okay. and that's just -- there's more where that came from. how hard it is going to be to get this agreement through the house, congresswoman, with a slim democratic majority? >> i think it's going to be a challenge. i think we'll need republican votes. but you know, really and truly on the infrastructure piece, we have to see everything that's in the bill. remember, the main thing that happened is that they had a vote to begin a debate. we know that they came up with an agreement, but i don't believe, now maybe i'm just speaking for myself, that the members have seen bill language. now, i know our chair, peter
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defazio has been way more involved, but i don't know that they have shared bill language. until you can see what is written, it's easy to make agreements verbally. but we need to see the bill language. any time the bill moves from one house to the next, you know that significant change takes place. >> thank you so much. i appreciate your time, congresswoman. >> you're welcome. next, the former ceo of, a major donor to the cyber ninjas, two are conducting arizona's so-called audit. >> we have a lot of hope for tomorrow. there's a lot of ways this can go. >> millions of americans could soon face eviction if congress doesn't act in the next two days. that's ahead. breyers is always so delicious... i can tell that they used your milk, matilda. great job! moo you're welcome. breyers natural vanilla is made with 100% grade a milk and cream
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revealing the sham audit, more than half of the windfall three and a quarter million coming from patrick barren, he is the former ceo of the sales company by the way, this is the first time he's been linked to a conspiracier thatry. so he's out front. >> it was a draud. >> reporter: that's patrick burn, the man leading theb number one fundraising effort for the so-called audit. like so many aspects, the fundraising has been murky, funded largely by big personalities, making loud unfounded claims of fraud. >> the one thing we can never, ever accept is to put up with a rigged election. >> reporter: this week, the cyber fin ja's firm claimed to raise more than $5 million and thanked its top supporters in a press release. burn's america's project was the biggest, putting up more than $3 million to fund the arizona
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exact cal. america's future, led by national security adviser, launched by one news network personality. the bipartisan maricopa county board of supervisors, local critics of the audit. >> a grift dis-greissed as an audit. >> reporter: they say grifters are raising hard earned money from our citizens. burps resigned after admitting to a relationship as a russian acting as a foreign agent in the u.s. >> it immediately turned romantic, as these things do. >> reporter: that he was somehow in an espionage run by the deep state. >> i am not a confidential informant. i am not a spy. i have a non-standard relationship with the government. >> reporter: he went on to embrace allegation fraud and trump looks for ways to overturn it over the protests of his
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aides. >> we have president trump on how they have this election in a landslide victory stolen from him. the entire answer is just take it, you can do nothing. it turned into quite a brew-ha ha, almost into a fist fight. >> reporter: burns taking his fight to washington, d.c., the day before the insurrection. >> we have a lot of ways this can go. >> reporter: he is vowing to keep up his challenges, not just in arizona. >> we have the sharp, shrewd insiders who can, who are making the moves that you want made. >> reporter: now, importantly, for transparency, we want to know where a lot of this money is coming from that gets funneled few these groups and put into the arizona audit. he says she proud of the fund raising he has done so far. he is so lit iting further do nations and took a swipe at the maricopa supervisors, telling cnn, i'm not the one dodging subpoenas from the state senate. >> wow, a pretty incredible story. thank you, so much.
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next, 12 million americans are behind ontary their represe right now. if washington doesn't do something soon, they could be evicted. that story next. >>
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good race! -you too! you were tough out there... thank you, i'm getting you next time though. oh i got you, i got you. hamblin goes down. d'agostino helps hamblin back up. are you okay? -yeah. tonight president biden calling on congress to extend the eviction moratorium set to expire on saturday. the moratorium is projecting right now nearly 12 million rentors. nick watt is out front. >> reporter: los vegas looks like a post-pandemic playground these days.
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wh whohoo in the cold late day in the corner, hey. >> all of us lost our jobs. >> reporter: apparently nearly 12 million americans are now behind on their rent and the federal kovid eviction ban for now expires midnight saturday. >> you are going to see nationwide on the 1st eviction notices being issued. >> reporter: and here in the state of nevada. >> seven days later, if you don't respond, you are out! >> reporter: congress has approved nearly $47 billion to help people across the country. >> i didn't know that. and i betcha a lot of other people didn't know that as well. >> reporter: she is right. only about 3 billion was actually dished out through the end of june, the word is hard and bureaucracy gets in the way. now in nevada. >> you cannot be evicted. >> reporter: as soon as you apply for the federal money you
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cannot be kicked out while it's in process. that that's state law. >> that's a state law. >> reporter: okay. >> that every state should pass. >> reporter: a few other states like california will keep some eviction protections in place. >> anyone that's been impacted by this ep dem ig cannot pay rent, 100% of that rent will be paid for. >> reporter: and there is one group that will benefit when the eviction ban disappears. squeezed landlords. >> we have many, many members that have exhausted all of their savings. i don't know how long that road will be before we became, you know, solid again. but certainly, on the road to it, depending on whether or not july 31st truly is the end of the moratorium. >> reporter: but lifting some state-level eviction bans last summer say researchers, that's more than 10,000 covid deaths. >> if families are forced to go
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to a shelter or double up, you're risking more exposure. doing it when the delta variant is out of control is a really bad idea. >> reporter: leslie says she's evicted once already, moved in with her mom. now you and your mom are -- >> yeah, getting evicted as well. >> thanks to nick and thanks to you. "ac 360" starts right now. good evening, we begin with breaking news and perhaps a way at least to begin to break through the resistance. so many people seem to have to getting a shot that could save their lives, not to mention wipeout covid. not just a way, in fact, several. late today after a stripping of key announcementes from the public and private sectors in blue states and red, president biden unveiled his own initiatives to vaccinate new americans. >> the federal government will now reimburse those employers to