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the world. i remember that day well. thanks to everyone who works on this show. thanks to you, our viewers, as well. we look forward to reporting the news for many years to come. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, florida's governor upping the ante in the fight over masks and warning officials in the covid ravaged state their paychecks are in jeopardy if they defy mandates. >> governor cuomo seems to be in a fighting mood as allies call on him to resign. he says he needs more time. for what? his attorney is "outfront". how far he went to overturn the election and the stunning testimony isn't done yet. let's go "outfront". good evening. i'm erica hill.
d defy sandesantis, risk your pay. a statement from the governor's office reads the state board of education could vote to withhold the salary of the district superintendent or school board members as we address the decision makers who led to the violation of the law. it's the latest threat following an earlier warning from the governor who said he would pull a school district's funding if they require mask. meanwhile, students returning to the classroom as florida itself finds itself at the epicenter of this latest surge. florida reporting more than 134 thos ,000 cases last week. that's more in a week since the start of the pandemic. the positivity rate for 12 to 19-year-olds, 24.3% and yet, desantis is steadfast no mask mandates, no matter what. >> his solution is he wants to
have the government force kindergartners to wear masks in school. well, i can tell you in florida the parents will be in charge of that decision. >> at the end of the day, we got to start putting our kids first. we got to look out for their education. is it really comfortable? is it really healthy for them to be muzzled and have their breathing obstructed all day long in school? i don't think it is. >> florida isn't alone. the governor of texas also recently signed an executive order which bans mask mandates in school and as we speak, the austin school district is considering taking on governor greg abbott's ban debating whether to require all staff and students to mask up on school property. i'll speak with austin mayor in a moment but that move follows a decision by the state's second largest school district, dallas announcing that starting tomorrow, everyone will have to mask up. >> if we don't do anything, it could go as many as 2,000 new cases every day by the end of the month.
i felt it was time to step in, even though i'm going to get in trouble and i need to step in and just have some courage and make a decision i think is in the best interest of district. >> this war over masks, millions of students caught in the middle comes as the u.s. as a nation averaging more than 100,000 new cases a day. keep in mind, these are numbers we haven't seen since february. laeyla santiago is "outfront" tonight. what's the response to this latest threat from governor desantis? >> reporter: erin, i'm in louden county where school starts tomorrow. the vice president of the school board said this is enough to make her pause but not enough to change their plans to require masks in the first two weeks of school and here is how she lays it out. she says listen, we had two employees recently die of covid. we have employees testing positive. we have some employees in quarantine. they even had a student who died because of covid-19 and this is
in a state where the hospitalization rate is three times the national average. as you pointed out, erica, the threat of cutting funding is not new. desantis wrote that in the executive order but this what he just said targets the decision makers, the superintendents, the school board members and their salaries. listen to the reaction. >> if i have to step out and take the risk of one versus 29,000 students and support staff numbers to keep them safe, i'm willing to take the risk. we're operating within our constitutional rights. >> reporter: and she's not alone. checked in with pmiami-dade alberto just sent us this statement in which he says at no point shall i allow my decision to be influenced but a threat to
my paycheck. a small price to pay considering the gravity of this issue and potential impact to the health and well being of our students and dedicated employees and i got to tell you i spent all day at a school here and i talked to teachers and staff members getting for the first day of school tomorrow and the sense that i get is they are just exhausted. so much back and forth and sort of politics when they're trying to come back, have a fresh new start after what was a very long year and dealing with the delta variant and a back and forth between the governor and school districts on masks. >> students and staff becoming the political pawns unfortunately. great reporting, as always, thank you. "out front" now the mayor of austin, texas. your school district now is
debating classing starting in eight days and this mask mandate after dallas defied the governor announcing one tomorrow. where do you stand? >> i think kids need to be wearing masks in schools so do teachers. i think we'll all do whatever we can to help make that happen. it's not just austin or dallas. houston may take the same action this week. we have to listen to the doctors and the data, the cdc the american academy of pediatrics, the data and doctors are clear. we need to do what we can and everything we can to keep our kids safe. >> the data may be clear but so is the governor's executive order. for folks at home that may not have seen it, quote, no person may be required by any jurisdiction to wear or mandate the wearing of a face covering. are you concerned about retaliation in the city of austin? >> you know, i think those kind
of concerns always exist but you can't alter the course of action that you have. at the very beginning of this process a year and a half ago, we all pledged, the governor pledged to be guided by the doctors and data but at this point rather than being governed by the data, i think we're being governed by republican donors. we're going to have to do what it is necessary to keep the kids safe. we've already been in court twice with the governor and won it twice at the district court level and weighing in regardless, we need to be doing everything we can to send a really clear message to our community that masking works. it helps keep us safe. it is something we can do and keep our economy open and safe and vibrant but we've got to do at least that. we've got to get people vaccinated. >> have you seen much of a push back to new recommendations for even fully vaccinated people as we know may be time to start masking up indoors?
what are you hearing? >> i think everyone is ready to be done with this. when things opened up and people could take off their mask, i think everybody celebrated that and it's hard to go back and it's an absolute travesty that we're having to do that now. but what people see what is happening in our intensive care units, we're running out of space, people are rallying to the cry. they are doing what it takes for our community to come together to keep people safe and it really does focus right now on our kids in schools. >> you talk about the data. you talked about the limited icu beds. i believe austin area hospitals have i think just six icu beds available. the governor seems to be taking note of that. just a short time ago, he actually asked hospitals to forgo elective surgeries in his words to increase hospital capacity for covid-19 patients. is there a disconnect there? >> there is a disconnect because our hospitals have been pulling
back on discretionary surgeries for sometime now. we're not losing space in our intensive care units to discretionary surgeries. we've been working together as a community to maximize the bed space available. we know our community, which is why local communities need the flexibility to be able to decide what's best for those communities and we're going to push real hard to maintain that liberty and freedom at our local communities. >> given the delta variant, how concerned are you where things could go in your city? >> real concerned about the delta variant. it real clear that it is a meaner, nastier virus. it's adapting that means that we all have to adapt, as well. it is, if you look at the folks in our hospitals right now, almost all of them, 85, 90% of them are people that have not been vaccinated.
virtually, everybody in intensive care unit, people that have not been vaccinated, this is a virus right now that is seeking out people that are not vaccinated, which is why we need to get better information. we need to get more trusted speakers, clergy, doctors and nurses reaching out to those in our community that are hesitant but open to learning factual information because this virus is nasty. >> yeah, it certainly is. we're starting to hear more of that, even a pastor in florida with a really i'm papassioned pr his congregation. thank you. >> thank you. "outfront" now dr. john none r -- jonathan ryaner and seniored a tore at the atlantic. dr. reiner, let's start with you here. we've talked so much over the last year and a half about mask mandates, about masks in schools. when you see what austin is
considering and what we heard from the governor, his concern over hospitals, how do you think things are going in texas? >> it's fractured the way it is in large parts of this country. i applaud mayor adler for looking after the best interest of his constituents. our children are most vulnerable at any time and now particularly during this pandemic. we have vaccinated almost 200 million americans now. not a single one of those americans is under the age of 12. every one of our young children in this country is vulnerable to infection and they're getting infected at record rates. about 220 kids per day in the united states are being admitted to hospitals and about a third of those children are being admitted to icus. this is a real danger to children. b about 4,000 kids have had multi system inflammatory disorder,
which is a serious inflammatory disease with unknown long term consequences and we need to protect our kids. every parent in this country would do anything to protect our kids. our kids are unvaccinated and we're sending them back to schools. we need to mask them up. >> governor desantis not backing down with this threat to withhold salaries in addition to the threat to withhold school funding for districts to find his order mandating masks. this is clearly a political move. is it worth it? >> governor desantis lives in two realities. the first is the medical health care reality and in florida, that's pretty bad. but the second is political reality and that is actually impressively good for him. he remains quite popular in the state of florida. he is running ahead of one of his two most likely democratic nominees, opponents and neck and neck with the other and meanwhile, he is internal republican polls and the second favorite among republicans after former president trump himself. if president trump is unable or
unwilling to run in 2024, governor desantis looks like the front runner. the incentives for him are to keep going and he's got another incentive that is even maybe more powerful because one of the things a lot of republicans learned from president trump is it's not a mistake until you admit it. ist it's not a failure until you admit it. if you've made a bad choice, stick with it because republican primary voters care more about continuity, toughness, face it, finding somebody else to blame, attacking the media and doctors than seeing you correct a mistake you made because you have different information now where you have more insight into what the truth is. >> it is definitely one strategy. dr. reiner, there are a number of republican governors we should point out that have been urging residents for months to get vaccinated. among the most vocal jim justice in west virginia. here he is again today. >> you're taking a hell of a risk if you're not vaccinated.
that's all there is to it. >> you know, at the same time you've got congressman marjorie taylor greene fueling vaccine skepticism saying the vaccines shouldn't be fully approved by the fda tweeting many people's testimonies are saying they're still getting sick with covid and vaccinated people are spreading it. it shouldn't be approved or mandated. it's important to point out 99.99% of sfully vaccinated people have not had an infection. novak vaccine is 100% but this seems to be doing a pretty good job. the facts, i feel like we've talked about at nauseam, the facts don't seem to matter in some cases, dr. reiner. >> right. look, americans need to get their medical information from physicians and other health care providers. marjorie taylor greene is a cartoon character. if you want to get real information, speak to your own
doctor, and the truth of the matter is, erica, as you said, these vaccines work better than we could have possibly hoped. 99.99% of people who have received these vaccines have not died. so it's a remarkable achievement. this is not -- this isn't necessarily endemic to republicans. larry hogan has done a terrific job. maryland was one of the first states to mask up and right now has one of the lowest covid positivity rates in the united states. so look, i think that people are starting to get the message as they see their hospitals in their towns start to fill and as they start to see people they know get sick and in some instances die. we're sort of moving very slowly in the right direction but we're in need of better leadership in places like texas and florida. >> you know, you say you need to trust the doctors but david, senator rand paul also a doctor
is railing against the cdc's guide guidance on masks. take a listen. >> president biden, we will not accept your agency's mandates or reported moves towards a lockdown. no one should follow the cdc's anti science mask mandates. >> no one should follow the cdc's anti science mask mandates? i mean, we're also at this point where you have to wonder how do we come back from this? >> well, dr. lrand paul is an ee doctor. he has no insight into virology than you or me. if you're a kacar mechanic, you know just as much about lrand paul. it's not surprising he's a weirdo on modern medicine, too. what is more disturbing are the politicians not cranks who find themselves acting in cynical
ways because in fact, they have created a culture war and some republican politicians like mitch mcconnell that wants to end the culture war can't. i mentioned ron desantis lives in two universes. in his political life he lives in two universes. you see someone that picks fights over masks but act when is he remembers to talk about vaccines reasonably provaccine. he doesn't attack vaccines f. you get his fundraising emails, you live in a world in which the public health guardians of the country are in fact the greatest enemies of the country in which they are attacked every day, almost literally every day i get an email from desantis operation denouncing one or another public health official and suggesting strongly their advice is not to be listened to. >> dr. reiner, appreciate it. thank you both for being with us tonight. >> my pleasure. "outfront" next a new york state official saying no one of sound mind would advice cuomo to
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accusers is telling her story publicly for the first time. m.j. lee is wit"outfront". >> the governor clearly lost the majority of the council members. >> reporter: new york governor andrew cuomo fighting for his political life as a ballooning scandal threatens to undo his decades long career. hed ofd sexually harassing more than a dozen emails and an explosive report released by the new york attorney gel. the judiciary committee convening on monday to continue the impeachment of the governor. >> i'm heart broken. let me be clear, no one should have to endure the behavior detailed in the report. >> reporter: one of his accusers publicly speaking out. >> to me and the other women he did this to, it was not normal. it was not welcomed. and it was certainly not consensual. >> reporter: brittany previously
identified as executive assistant number one in the a.g. report describing instances of unwelcome advance the and touching from the governor. >> i then felt while taking the selfie his hand go down my back on to my butt and he started rubbing it, not sliding it, not, you know, quickly brushing over it, rubbing my butt. he walked over, shut the door, so hard to the point where i thought for sure someone down stairs must think, they must think if they heard that what is going on, came back to me and that's when he put his hand up my blouse and cupped my breast over my bra. i exactly remember looking down, seeing his hand, which is a large hand, thinking to myself oh my god, this is happening? it happened so quick. he didn't say anything.
when i stopped it, he just pulled away and walked away. >> reporter: she is filing a criminal complaint against cuomo with the albany sheriff's office last week and wants accountability. >> what he did to me was a crime. he broke the law. >> reporter: cuomo's attorney declining to comment on her interview. the governor denying the allegations of misconduct and sexual harassment laying low over the weekend and according to sources, telling aides i need more time. overnight one of cuomo's closest senior aids melissa derosa announcing her resignation. derosa appearing throughout the a.g. report including for allegedly spear heading retaliation against one of cuomo's accusers. derosa has yet to respond to allegations regarding her role. now, just to give you a sense where things stood over the weekend, sources tell, cnn some of cuomo's confidants spent the
weekend trying to convince the glovernor to resign but there i nobody around him to believe he can actually survive this scandal but that the governor himself was in a fighting mood, believing he can wait this one out and he really can't accept, we're told by our sources, that his governorship may be coming to an end. erica, as you know well, it is very, very difficult right now to find anyone in new york who really believes that he can survive. >> excellent reporting. thank you. "outfront" now new york glove now andrew cuomo's personal attorney. you heard m.j.'s reporting there. two state democratic party jacobs said today no one of sound mind would at this point be advising governor cuomo to stay. all kinds pointing to impeachment. is there any way he would resign at this point? >> i think right now that the governor is very much focused on getting the evidence from the assembly and being able to make
a submission to the assembly. you have to remember that this report just came out a week ago. he got it at the same time as everyone else. upon my read of the report and i said this a number of times, it was very clear to me that they got some facts wrong. it was clear to me they did not include information that was helping to put things into context. i have heard from a number of lawyers for other witnesses in the case that they had information that they thought should have been included in the report and was not, and so what has happened here is this report which the governor takes issue with is a bias report and we know brittany is the attorney general's investigator report got facts wrong. this is the whole basis for proceeding with impeachment against the governor and if we know there sin formation that
that report didn't include and factually erroneous information in the report, they have said three times that the groping happened on november 16th, and brittany cameso doesn't agree with that and the only day i've seen in november there is information she was in the mansion is november 16th. >> right, i know you pointed that out -- >> everyone is pushing for him -- >> just to follow up on what you said -- >> but everyone -- hold on. what everyone is pushing the governor to resign based on a report that has not been vetted, and that people are taking to be 100% true and the governor should be allowed the opportunity to see the evidence and do a full submission, which we're not allowed to do. >> the a.g. in response to your press conference on friday, in a statement told cnn there were transcripts that were forthcoming and would be getting more of that evidence because i know you said in that press conference on friday, that was one of your fris rustrations.
you have until friday to submit additional evidence. what is it specifically you're submitting at this point? if you're saying there are things missing from this report, what are you supplementing that you believe needs to be seen in terms of this impeachment investigation? >> so, back to your point about that the a.g.'s office said that transcripts would be forthcoming, i wrote the attorney general's office last week and asked, i still haven't gotten a response. the attorney general's office has not even given me my client's transcript. so in terms of what i'm going to be able to submit by the deadline on friday the 13th, which i think is an unreasonable deadline and it's a deadline meant to handicap any meaningful defense or due process for the governor in this case, we will make due with what we have but i will certainly point out to the assembly that i think this manner of proceeding is not the right way to do, to do this and if you go back and look at what
impeachment proceedings were, you know, with the president whose conduct was far different than what the governor has been accused of and not convicted after trial but there was more of a back and forth. there has been none of that here and if you look through this report, there are hundreds of footnotes repferring to testimoy that we don't have. out of 179 people who have been interviewed, only 41 of those were transcribed and i want to point you to one sentence in the report. buried in the report on page 121, the attorney general's investigators wrote, a number of former and current executive chamber staff particularly the senior staff as well as state troopers on the protective security unit denied having witnessed or experienced any conduct by the governor that could be characterized as sexual
or otherwise inappropriate. there is no footnote. they just dropped that sentence. why can't we get that information? -- >> so you'd like to know who those people are. i understand. look, i've got the report in front of me. lots of notes in it. >> yeah. >> it also says on page 123 staff members felt particular anxiety focused on the governor's mood and treatment rather than their work and talks about back and forth they received. i want to pin on a couple other points that haven't been addressed with you yet. first of all, melissa derosa that resigned late last night did not mention the governor in her statement and the resignation was described to me earlier as someone who has been covering the capitol for sometime, the capitol burro as an adam drop dropping in the middle of the governor's circle. did the governor know melissa derosa's inresigning was coming? >> i don't want to get into conversations but i want to say this about her, she has worked
non-stop 24/7 for the last two years and it takes a toll on you, particularly through covid and the last six months if you look at, you know, some of the ways she's been to rportrayed ie media, it was not fair to her. she gave a detailed statement about her departure and i'll leave it at that. i think that melissa worked very hard for the people of the state of new york and i don't have anything more to say on that. >> i know you don't want to characterize their conversations but were you given a heads up, did the governor know this was coming. >> i won't comment on my conversation with the governor. >> all right. brittany in the interview this morning, she described an interaction with the governor according to the a.g.'s report took place on december 31st, 2019. the selfie the governor requested. take a listen.
>> i then felt while taking the selfie his hand go down my back on to my butt and he started rubbing it, not sliding it, not, you know, quickly brushing over it, rubbing my butt. >> the governor has denied touching anyone inappropriately. is he then saying she is lying? >> i am not going to get into brittany's head. i do know that several people have discussed and testified to the attorney general about potential motivations for her to be less than truthful, none of that was included in the report and with respect to that particular selfie picture, i just urge you, i think they published it on cbs this morning. take a look at that picture and i think the picture speaks a thousand words as to whether or
not brittany felt moments before that she had been essentially sexual assaulted by the governor, who i think she said rubbed her behind. look at the picture and draw your own conclusions. >> again, are you saying she's lying in how she felt and what she took the actions of the governor to be, which is what she said was sexual harassment, that he was rubbing her butt, not an inadvertent pat? >> i will tell you that the governor absolutely denies that. and again, for her motivations, all i can say is that she gave an anotary nymous interview to albany times union on april 7th and the facts she testified to them in that interview, her length of time at the mansion -- >> you're talking about a separate incident right now? you're talking about a separate
incident. i'm talking about the december 2019 incident. we're almost out of time. you talked about november a lot. i want to get you once more on this. you have said friday you told my colleague pam brown on saturday that the governor would be speaking out and addressing the allegations soon from trooper number one. they are not in your position statement. they have not been addressed. when will we hear from the governor? >> again, you're going to hear from him very soon -- >> i do want to say something -- >> i think it's going to be very soon. >> okay. >> what i do want to say about that is that i know that the governor wants with respect to trooper number one, he wants to apologize to her. he has tremendous respect for her and he never in any way, shape or form meant to make her feel as though he was touching her in a sexual way or violated her as i think she testified to. >> so what is he apologizing for -- >> i do want to make that point. that in many ways that she felt that way, that he did something that, you know, was untoward and
that she felt disrespected, absolutely. >> does he agree that in the way that it's been described in this report that it's not appropriate conduct? >> oh, oh, i think absolutely as he's gone through the report and read how some of these people have felt about interactions with him, yes, absolutely and he told that to the attorney general's office during his testimony. >> so -- >> absolutely. >> one of the things that has come up as well is sexual harassment training. in 2019 governor cuomo did sign into law a very important law in new york state that addresses sexual harassment training. we went and looked through some of the videos ocnline from the state in terms of this is the way the training should be done. i want to play just a portion of one of those videos quickly. >> physical acts of a sexual nature including but not limited
to touching, pinching, patting, grabbing, kissing, hugging, brushing against another employ employee's body or poking another employee's body. >> the governor said in march that he had taken the training. it's very clear what's not appropriate. does it not apply to him? >> no, he did not take the video training. what he took was a power point training, the sen ior staff -- >> are you not given the same information. of all the sexual harassment trainings i've taken, the video and writing, they're the same information. have you seen the power point that the governor received? it was an exhibit in his testimony. >> so -- >> all i can tell you -- yeah, it is different than what that video training was. >> okay. >> and he did take it in 2019, at absolutely. look, erica, he is not in any
way, shape or form denying that he hugged staffers, that he -- when he goes by staffers, he will great them and touch them on the arm and touch them on the back. yes, he talks to staffers about their personal lives, absolutely. he is well aware particularly after reading the report as to how this made some people feel and he did not realize that. >> appreciate you joining us "outfront" tonight. thank you. >> erica, thank you for having me. "outfront" next lawmakers stepping up their investigations into donald trump's efforts to get the justice department to overturn the election. details on who is next to testify. after lawmakers learn just how close the country came to total catastrophe. plus, in just hours, a crucial vote on a key part of biden's agenda so does this infrastructure plan have the support?
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was a resignation in january two days after trump called georgia secretary of state to pressure him to push the big lie. >> the people of georgia are angry. the people of the country are angry, and there is nothing wrong with saying that, you know, that you've recalculate. all i want to do is this, i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state. >> the investigation into that call comes as the senate committee heard quote frightening testimony from acting attorney general jeffrey rosen and his deputy richard donohue. one senator in the room democrat richard blooumenthal said i was
struck. >> really remarkable testimony, erica. former acting attorney general rosen who testified voluntarily told lawmakers the pressure trump put on him and his deputy after the election was real and it was very specific. while rosen testified that trump did not directly ask him to overturn the election results, he did ask him to do certain things related to states election results, which he refused to do and reportedly being asked by white house leadership to meet with people with farfetched theories why the election was not valid. both rosen and donohue placed jeffrey clark, a trump oappointd environmental law chief at the center of this extraordinary effort to help trump undermine the election results including potentially trying to oust his own bosses resisting trump. now, rosen testified about numerous interactions with clark but most of his testimony focused on multiple episodes where clark went outside the chain of command to try to help push these fraud claims. both rosen and donohue told
investigators they don't know if clark was acting at trump's belast or a plot he concocted himself. they will pursue mr. clark to come in and tell his side of the story but not clear if he'll cooperate. >> thank you. ""outfront" now a member of the house select committee investigating the deadly insurrection on january 6th. congressman, here is a little more of what your colleagues in the senate had to say after that testimony. >> that is something that goes back to the start of my tenure. >> how directly voiinvolved the president was and the pressure is real, very real. >> what impact do you think public testimony from rosen and donohue could have especially in terms of efforts to combat these months of election lies? >> well, i think what it does is it shows very clearly that the efforts that were underway
before january 6th to subvert democracy and so that's exactly what chairman disurban indicate and the committee looks forword to seeing, as well. >> the former president is calling this a fake election on fox news a day after the homeland of security warned about an increase of calls for violence online tied to election related conspiracy theories. how concerned are you about this threat right now? >> we're very concerned. and in the house we have legislation that would help prevent threats from being made on local election officials. we know they were under stress this last year and that continues to be the case professionals who just go about their work administering elections and we need to make sure we do everything we can to protect them and their efforts because they are also helping to keep democracy running and you
saw that officers that testified previously are last line of defense that day in democracy, we owe it to them and everyone in the capitol that day to get to the truth of what happened. >> speaking of what happened that day, your colleague congresswoman alexandria o ocasio-cortez sat down for a wide ranging interview and talked a little bit about that day, which was even more profound for her as a survivor of sexual assault. take a listen. >> you know, white supremacy and patriarchy are linked and there is links of viviolence. i didn't just think i would be killed. >> so it sounds like you didn't only think you would die, you thought you were going to be raped? >> yeah, yeah, i thought i was.
>> what is your reaction to those comments and do you think she's the only person that felt that way? >> i think every member who was there, i would include staff members who were in the building, you know, people on the house floor with me or up in the gallery, there were members who were barricaded in offices, members and staff members barricaded behind closed doors in the capitol and then there were a host of other members and staff who were barricaded in the house office buildings across the street adjacent to the capitol. every member has their own experiences of that day. they're all traumatic and i would also say the ka custodian staff have the same thoughts. everyone is allowed to have their own experiences and feelings about that day, having lived through what we lived
through. but my hope and belief is that my colleagues and the staffers and police officers who were there that day, that we can all continue to move forward, get the help that is needed in order to talk to folks about our experiences but ultimately, our responsibility on the committee is to get to the truth. everyone there and every american deserves to know the truth in what happened and what led up to january 6th. >> congressman, thank you again for joining us tonight. >> thank you. be sure to join us for being aoc the first in the new cnn series with dana bash area tonight at 9:00 p.m. "outfront" next the final senate vote on a $1.2 trillion infrastructure package hours away but are there still road blocks ahead? omething else: with your farmer's policy perk, new car replacement, you can get a new one. (customer) that is something else. (burke) get a whole lot of something with farmers policy perks. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪
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care of the girls in her home for significant periods of time. this is a complicated story with many unanswered questions. i want to bring in my colleague, nick watt, who has been covering kelly. what do we know about daisha k kelly. >> cnn found her paying back rent of $2,000 to prevent eviction for her and her three daughters. she did not reach out to us, we called her. her girls called her mom, and there was nothing that we could see to raise any suspicion. but later last week, a woman nad shadya helo said she was the mother of those three girls and they live with her. obviously we investigated immediately, and shadya helo is their mother. now we know that daisha kelly is
dating the girls' father. she spends significant periods of time caring for the girls at her apartment. now, at the time we visited, helo says she had dropped the girls off with kelly for a week. now, when we followed up with kelly over the weekend, she clarified that she is not the mother of the three girls. she said she originally described herself to cnn as the mother because she considers herself to be like a mother to those girls. shadya helo is understandably upset that someone else claimed to be the mother of her three children, children she also cares for. >> so there are things, nick, about kelly's story, or are there, i should say, that do check out? >> yeah, absolutely. she is facing eviction from her apartment. we saw her 7-day notice when we vis visited, and we have confirmed that. she clearly does look after those girls part of the time. but in that gofundme post, she said that -- she described the
girls as her daughters, and that's just not true. >> nick, as of today, that gofundme account had, i think, over $32,000 in donations. what will happen with that money now? >> we contacted gofundme, they investigated, put all the funds on hold, and this afternoon they told me gofundme has proactively notified all donors with directions on how to request a full refund. after two weeks, they will release any money left minus those refunds to kelly. and any money she gets, they say, will be used to cover living expenses, bills and a dedicated amount will be put into an account for each child. now, as for the girls themselves, kelly tells us she dropped them off with their mom last night in time for the ststart of school. >> nick watt, thank you. and thanks actual of you for joining us tonight.
"ac 360" starts right now. good evening. we begin tonight with something mr. rogers said to tell children to do whenever they saw something scary on the news. look for a helper, he would say. with covid in the news and young people certainly scared enough and young parents alike, where are the helpers? that's the question tonight. in the case of florida, some being questioned by governor ron desantis are being punished to trying to help children who are too young to be vaccinated. he put out a statement warning, quote, punishment for anyone trying to help children who are too young. since children under 12 can't get the vaccine, they've bee