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of covid. it's august 13th, why conspiracy theorists were wrong about this date and others. good evening. i'm erin burnet. three teachers in the same school district died in the span of 24 hours and two more hospitalized this is happen income broward county, florida, right now ground zero for the fight against that state's governor's attempt to ban mask mandates in schools. the school board has defied governor ron desantis as he continues to threaten to cut funding and salaries and the school board kept the mask mandate in place and that's important because all three of the teachers that died were unvaccinated and all three of them were set to teach kids that were too young to get vaccinated. as the mother of three children, two in school i'll be blunt and honest where i stand. it's important to be honest. i think it's wrong for teacher whose are unvaccinated and maskless to be teaching
unvaccinated children. thankfully, the kids in broward county, they weren't scheduled to go back teachers started this week. many children around the country are back in school. the secretary of education sent a letter to the governors of florida and texas where they are also trying to ban a mask mandate saying administration and there are major concerns, let me give you the numbers. the number of children infected with covid has surged 675% increase in just july to august so far. as children go back to school, more than 10,000 of them and staff across 14 states are g quarantined for covid exposexpo. 14 schools in mississippi are closed after an outbreak of covid-19, over 550 active covid
cases are reported this week. in gwinnett county, georgia. 679 positive cases between students and staff since the start of school on august 4th. that's a small sample of what we're seeing across the country. sadly, the number of children hospit hospitalized are skyrocketing, too. in texas where the governor tried to ban mask mandates in elementary schools, dallas county judge clay jenkins had this to say. >> in dallas, we have zero icu beds left for children. that means if your child is in a car wreck, if your child has a c congenital heart defect or covid and needs an icu bed. we won't have one. your child with wait for another child to die. >> children of an alabama hospital says it's treating a record number of covid patients.
they have 23 children in there and five on ventilators and again, to be really clear here, none of these kids need to have covid. absolutely none of them. all thee eadults in their lives should be vaccinated and anyone that can't for some specific medical reason should be masking indoors. i'll speak with one of the top doctors there coming up and while this is happening across this country, this are lawmakers and sitcitizens trying to stop schools from mandating masks, which is one thing we know now that can keep kids too young to be vaccinated from contracting covid. protests like these are playing out across the country. >> my child, my choice! my child, my choice! my child, my choice! >> people screaming at school board members trying to mandate masks. this is what happened in broward county when the school board met deciding whether to keep the mask man date.
>> it's time to pass off the symbol of tyranny. this symbol of child abuse. we will not stand for it anymore. >> it's amazing when these vaccines get approved for kids in a short time, we can get all the kids vaccinated and prevent any of them from getting really sick and dying but instead, if those sorts of voices start to win, the number of sick and hospitalized and dead children will grow. needlessly. as i said, in broward county, while governor desantis fights mask man dates, he instead actually this is important, spent regenron a covid treatment that costs $1500 a pop. it would not be needed if people had been able to get vaccinated and wear masks and now three educators are now dead. all of them are women, all about the same age, 48 and 49 years old and all of them unvaccinated. this is according to the
president of the broward teacher's union. thankfully, children were not back at school yet but that is not true across so much of this country tonight and that's concerning to health officials across the nation. phil mattingly is "outfront" live outside the white house tonight. the biden administration is not backing down from the fight against governors trying to ban mask mandates while kids are still unvaccinated. >> reporter: yeah, look, if anything it will escalate over the coming weeks. when you talk to white house officials, they try to make a distinction and don't view this as a political attack or republican versus democrat. they point to the numbers. i had one white house official tell me in pointing to cases, deaths, hospitalizations, overwhelmed hospitals in the state of florida, quote, the numbers don't lie. that's the primary concern, the public health concern. on the political side, the white house doesn't see downside. with republicans but mask man dates are popular. vaccinations are popular. and the president's prospective,
how the president operated throughout the coronavirus crisis since he took office, he has rated very well. so they feel like he has the upside on that front, as well. the biggest concern without question is on the public health side of things and you mentioned the key element, why the shift really occurred two weeks ago this back and forth between the governor and president was the concerns about the delta variant and concerns about kids going back to school. there is no question and visceral concern how political masks have gotten for schools where they're trying to reopen across the country, whether it will lead to outbreaks, whether students will have to go back to virtual learning because of the politics at this moment on masks. that's the primary concern. one interesting element is the white house is clear they are not trying to under cut the governor from a political sense but they are very clearly trying to back to some degree on the policy side of things. you mentioned the letter from
cardona to desantis and in that letter, he made clear, one, the white house is deeply supportive of any superintendent pursuing a mask mandate despite what the governor has done but if he tries to restrict or take away their salaries because of those efforts, they have an alternative. they can back fill that money through covid relief bills that have been put into place over the course of the last two years, tens of billions of dollars are available and the white house is making clear through this letter from the education secretary it is a valuable for superintendents and governor desantis would have no say over it, erin. >> 'tphil, thank you very much. next, the president of the broward's teacher's union. glad to have you on. i know we've talked a few times. i know you knew one of the teachers personally. what did you think when you heard three educators, three teachers in your county died in a 24-hour span?
>> first, was extremely sad. wanted to send condolences to the families. the principals, which i did. it was just shocking that it was all in one day. >> i mean, how much does this make you want to continue the fight to keep the mask mandate knowing these teachers in just days, right, could have been in classroom with kids who are not vaccinated? >> yeah. honestly, erin, i've been continuing to fight since the outbreak when we closed schools down before last school year in march of 2019 that it was spreading. we saw it rapidly and needed to keep pushing to have all types of protocols put in place for the safety and security of our educators and the students that we take care of. i hear almost daily somebody in
our community, somebody within our union of brothers and sisters, family members that had passed away but hearing three of our educators in one day and two of our other community members that passed away, it was really a really strong blow so i'm extremely happy that our school board and our superintendent are going to enforce the mask mandate, i'm thrilled to hear that our president of the united states is backing all of florida school boards and super superintendents to take that position. so important now when we don't know who is vaccinated in our schools, whether it's our students or our employees, that we mask up, social distance, you know, keep the hand washing going and cleaning. so, you know, i heard you say before that it's important if we are going to be in front of our students and each other in these close rooms and our school
sites, getting vaccinated is so important. if not, we need to mask up. >> so let me ask you a little bit more on that. when you said we don't know who is vaccinated and i understand, you know, there are people that may need specific medical exceptions, of course. i don't know if you saw this because it happened before you came on. the los angeles unified school district, the second biggest in this country are requiring all people who work in schools, teachers and staff to be fully vaccinated, and undergo weekly testing. but the vaccination part is not like either or, you have to be vaccinated. i know you've been honest. you were initially hesitant so you may understand where teachers are coming from but now you have teacher whose died and kids could be in a classroom, even if someone is masked, the kids have no protection at all. why not push a full on vaccine mandate? >> well, you know, in the position i'm in, i'm an educator
myself and elected union president of putting on that powerful authority i just didn't feel comfortable doing it. every day when i hear more and more people that are sick that are battling covid and still struggling in their homes and haven't made it to a hospital but the ones that get into the hospital and are unfortunate and pass away, my position is maybe shifting. i'm really encouraging and strongly suggesting that everybody gets out and gets vaccinated. broward teacher's union is partnering up with the health department and school and we'll have a site for vaccines for all employees that haven't had an opportunity, and i'm just hoping that that fda will come up with the approval and possibly my position might change with that one to encourage mandated vaccines. i can tell you now, even though i'm not taking that position to say if our school board takes that position, i will not stand in the way. >> well, i think that's a really
significant thing to say and i know it comes from a lot of thought. i hope it bolsters you in the move to hear that the teacher's union in l.a. the second biggest december st district in the county in the union all are on the same page. anna, look appreciate talking to you. thank you. >> thank you, erin. have a great night. >> all right, you, too. i want to go to the co-director of the university of alabama and pediatric infectious disease dr. david kimberland. i mentioned your hospital has a record number of covid patients. can you tell me what you're seeing? >> we're seeing a lot of children who are very, very sick admitted to our hospital. we have almost twice as many right now as we did at the previous worst part of this pandemic, which was probably in january, early to mid january of
2021. these children are coming in fighting for breath, fighting for the ability to basically get through this devastating illness, many of them are on ventilators, maybe a quarter or so on ventilators or heart lung by pass machines, the ecmo machines taking overall aspects of their body functions and struggling to get out of this and through it and right now, our numbers are not as bad as dallas' in terms of the icu beds and so forth, but we're very mindful with return to school, with so many people not wearings ma masks indoors and people not being vaccinated and alabama has a low vaccination rate, you know, that could change in a very quick period of time. >> so tell me about the kids you're seeing. i mean, when you talk about that, that's awful to think about this. the situation that these children are in. can you tell me about the kids and how worried you are this could get worse for children? >> well, the children that we're
seeing span the age range from very young infants to 17 and 18-year-old adolescents and so the spectrum is wide and the fear that i have is great that it not only can get worse but it will get worse. right now, the rate of increase that we have in our cases and our communities across the state, it was really very similar to across the southeast, it's rising here and it's going to continue and as it continues and more people get infected, wait a week or two, we've seen this movie before. wait a week or two, more will come to the hospital and wait another week, we knneed to doub down and mask indoors, get vaccinated and try to get through this. >> so the horrible story of broward county, just awful.
three elementary schoolteachers unvaccinated died from covid. teachers are back at school and kids joining next week. the kids weren't in the classroom, thank god, but so tragic. how important to have mask mandates in schools and you heard the teacher's union speaking that it really moving there towards not standing in the way and possibly ready to fully support a vaccine mandate. >> it is critically important that everyone in schools masks, whether you're vaccinated or not, everyone in a school wear a mask. now, i think the most efficient way to do that is to have a mandate, to have a requirement and rule that everybody needs to do so. the american academy of pediatrics has come with that and the centers for disease control and prevention said the same and the pediatric infectious disease side of america, you can do go down the list. they looked at the data and see what this virus, this delta
variant can do. we know masks work. we've seen it earlier in the pandemic. we know that they can help slow this down and we know getting vaccines in people's arms can do better with that over time. we know what to do here, and it saddens me we seem to be fighting about the way we go about doing it. we all ought to have and i want to believe that we do have our own children's best interest at heart and we got to do this for them. >> yeah, thank you very much. doctor. appreciate the time. >> thank you. next, u.s. troops on their way to afghanistan at this hour to help evacuate americans in the country, diplomats in the country as the taliban takes over southern afghanistan and doing so by storm. why is the white house so caught off guard by what happened? is happening. plus, our special report on long covid tonight. it is real. it is damaging. it is dangerous and dr. fauci tonight warns the fully vaccinated are not immune from it. dr. sanjay gupta takes an
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worse. the taliban in control of half of afghanistan's capitals and all of them seized in the past week including the country's second largest city. all of it taking the biden white house by surprise and leaving biden's team scrambling. clarissa ward is "outfront" in kabul. thousands more u.s. troops will be on the ground in a matter of hours stating the obvious when they pulled them out, they didn't expect to drop 3,000 people to evacuate diplomats, right? it's not good. the pentagon is struggling to not call this an evacuation, but what is it? tell me what we're about to see on the ground. >> reporter: well, it's an evacuation, you know. you can play with semantics and call it a withdraw and say out of abundance of caution and the embassy is open and the enduring partnership between the u.s. and afghan government is very much strong but the reality is how it's being seen on the ground
here is as an evacuation, a sign that the u.s. is starting to panic and that it needs to get its personnel out of this country as the security situation deteriorates further. we'll see roughly 3,000 troops coming in and basically escorting the hundreds if not more than 1,000 american personnel from the u.s. embassy to the airport here in kabul and on to military flights to get them out of the country. we don't know exactly how many people are going to be evacuated, and we also don't know, erin, about afghan people working in that embassy and of course, the many afghan people who have been working closely with the u.s. military and the u.s. diplomatic mission here for many years who are now facing very real threats to their security. cnn spoke to one machn who is dec desperate about his situation and paperwork that has fallen through he was threatening to go
outside the embassy and set fire to himself as a sort of means of protest, and hopefully, he doesn't actually go through with that but i think it certainly speaks to the desperation many people are feeling here on the ground as the u.s. really starts to pull the rip cord. >> so five more capitals seized in the last 24 hours since we spoke last night eastern time and the taliban controlling territory 60 miles from you are. the pentagon said it's not in kabul, near kabul. you're 60 miles away. they're moving rapidly. how tense is it in kabul tonight? >> right now in kabul, i'd say it's calm and the situation is relatively stable but it's incredibly tense, and i spoke to one official earlier who said to me, do you hear the sound of that silence? it's the sound of people packing, packing to go because
there is such desperate uncertainty and also, we haven't heard anything from the afghan government, erin, which is just stunning. the country is literally collapsing and yet, we have not heard any real leadership coming from presthe president. there is no sign they're about to sort of slow down this offensive. we just got back from spending a couple days with them in gozni which is under their control and we sat down with the taliban governor and asked him, do you even have any incentive to sit down and negotiate with the afghan government when you're making all these gains? do you see a future where there could be a power sharing agreement, where there could be peace between the two sides? i have to say, he was not really wanting to answer the question but he was extremely noncommittal. he said that's not clear yet. we'll wait to see what our leaders decide and whatever they decide, we will do and so the question now becomes what will those leaders decide?
>> all right. thank you very much, clarisa. the leaders, i remember the hostage swap carried out by the obama administration. i want to bring in mark jacobson he was defense secretary during the obama administration and served as a deputy nato. mark, you've been very bleunt ad described the policy as a train wreck. what is going through your mind as oweyou see these pictures ofe taliban taking over and the past 24 hours beiing taken over? >> there is hope. my concern is there are three ways this can go. of course, there is always a chance that the biden administration sees the light and decides to release all that air power they've been speaking about that is available to the afghan national security forces and maybe force a stalemate. that's the least likely situation. the next possibility is that afghan leaders, perhaps someone
can broker some sort of seize fire or deal. there are still a couple provinces where businesses as usual. i understand some are doing okay but again, the most likely option right now is a complete collapse of the afghan security forces. >> i mean, it is pretty en incredible. a lot of policy experts question the wisdom of the decision but biden is sticking by it and if you look at polls and, you know, polls are polls but the american people do support it. a poll taken after biden announced with drawl plan but this blitz by the taliban showed 62% of americans approved of the decision to pull americans out. he seems to be reflecting a country that wants the end of a two decades long campaign. he seems to be accurately
deflecting voters. >> president biden has owned his decision, not tried to push it on other people, not tried to say well, i was backed into a corner. the bottom line is he believes this evening though i think he's wrong and others feel he's wrong but i really don't think a president should be making policy entire -- especially foreign policy based on the polling for two reasons. one, i am pretty sure that a good chunk of americans, if not a majority will change their mind and say we should do something once we see the horrible pictures over the coming weeks moand months. the presidents need to lead. if the president makes a case and say i know you don't like this. i know this is up mais putting and daughters in harm's way, but we need to be there for these reasons. that's presidential. that's what american leaders do. >> so there has been this allegiance and look, when it comes to pulling troops out,
this isn't infrequent but in this case, you've got the democratic biden administration with ron klain, the chief of staff retweeting libertarian, the former congressman and former congressman omash says the taliban's rapid gains in afghanistan under score the permanent occupation. the united states wasn't able to meaningfully shape circumstances through 20 years of war. we would have seen the same results had we pulled out 15 years ago or 15 years from now and the wars. now, what do you say to that? look, it's a really horrible thing to contemplate because so many americans lost their lives at defending what is now capitulating? >> i just don't think that's right. i think what individuals like former congressman forget there are great strides made in afghanistan. there is no certainty that once we left that would be the end game. in fact, what is -- i just think back to the obama
administration. what we would have given for the taliban not just to be at the table speaking but speaking with afghan counter parts, that was the goal. guess what? we got there. they've been at the table with the united states and had a lousy deal the taliban violated but talking to the afghans and what under pinned that, what pushed the afghan -- the taliban to the table was u.s. air power, the continued threat of u.s. military strikes and not only did president biden say we're going to pull our ground troops out completely and unconditionally, but he also said no air power and that broke the back of the afghan military because they knew what that meant for their combat power. >> mark, appreciate your time. thank you very much and i appreciate your blunt assessment. >> my pleasure. next, dr. sanjay gupta with a special report on long covid. so who gets it and why? and why you can still get it if you're vaccinated and i'm also joined by the mayor of tapika.
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is most at risk? dr. sanjay gupta is "outfront". >> reporter: this time last year, shameer smith would have thought this was impossible. the 39-year-old middle schoolteacher could barely move after getting covid-19 in march of 2020. >> i was mostly bed bound. >> reporter: now more than a year later, she can walk for up to 15 minutes but continues to experience symptoms. >> my first symptoms were a sore throat. i was dizzy and i had a slight shortness of breath and quickly over the course of time that grew into vision loss, memory loss, episodes of psychosis. >> reporter: experts think a tenth to one-third who are infected with covid continue to have symptoms six months after first becoming ill. >> the fact that so many people at one time over a course of a year have developed these long haul syndrome, that gives us a chance, an opportunity to study
it intensively. >> reporter: dr. michael sagg is an infectious disease doctor. like smith, he also got sick with covid-19 in march 2020. how are you feeling? how are you doing? >> i have fatigue every now and then. the residual deficit is i have hearing loss that returned to some degree but not completely. >> reporter: even after flu, i was reading people would have brain fog and different types of symptoms but not as persistent and not as long as we're seeing with long covid. >> i think there are persistent symptoms for certain infectious disorders. lyme disease is perhaps the most well-known. i think the common thread between lime and post covid and a few other viral illnesses is precisely an immune system that hasn't calmed down yet. >> reporter: who develops long covid and why is unclear. young or old, very sick or not sick at all.
it seems anyone is at risk of long covid. particularly those unvaccinated as variants like delta become more prominent. >> a lot of long covid patients will tell you a lot of our symptoms and trouble don't show up on tests. >> reporter: it's an additional complication on top of an already complicated relationship of health care for people of color that may be marginalized and stereo typed. >> there is nothing worse than being told when vision is lost in your left eye, it's a dry eye when meeting the right doctor, i found out it was actually a dense cataract that formed due to the inflammation in my brain. >> reporter: it pushed smith to speak out. with the help of patient voices like hers, the national institute of health launched an initiative to understand how to treat the range of symptoms of long covid, symptoms that can impact all parts of the body including the brain. in fact, a recent study out of the u.k. found people infected
with coronavirus lost brain matter, particularly in areas of the brain involved with smell and taste. the results are early and they still need to be peer reviewed. the researchers didn't correlate to function and unable to tell if the changes were symptom of disease or mark of infection. >> the other thing that we don't know that i think is essential is to understand how much the s vir virus itself enters into the brain and which cells. >> reporter: while 70% of people recover by nine months, 30% of patients like smith may not. for her, it's been a long road but there is one thing she wants more than anything else. >> we're moving so fast and trying to get all the answers at one time. i just hope we're not forgotten because i almost was. >> sanjay, her story is, i mean, incredible.
talk about the cataract and brain fog. you can get really sick and get long covid or not get very sick at all and still get long covid. what more do we know about the dangers to even those vaccinated? >> i think there is a couple things emerging. one is that even if you're vaccinated, you don't want to be continuously showered in virus. i mean, like if you had a wound on your hand, you wouldn't want to continuously expose it to bacteria if taking antibiotics and the same could be said here. masks for a period of time make a difference for the vaccinated but the study i think dr. fauci was referring to is a study out of israel that followed 1500 health care workers tested regularly and 15% developed post vaccination infections and one-fifth had symptoms that lasted longer than a month, which would make them long covid
but almost all resolved at six weeks so far less likely to get infected, far less likely to have those symptoms be severe and far less likely for the long covid if it happened to last as long. so it can happen, yes, but being vaccinated is still certainly helping a great deal exponentially so. >> exponentially so. dr. sanjay gupta, thank you. next, you don't want to miss our next guest. she's had her gull bladder removed and about to have a pacemaker put in because she's a long haul covid vie vor and a mayor. local officials say they have been sounding the alarm, has the biden administration been listening? >> this is not sustainable. we have a huge water leak. we had to send a plumber to plug the leak. in this market, you'lld fisher investments is different than other money managers. (other money manager) different how? don't you just ride the wave? (judith) no - we actively manage client portfolios based on
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symptoms. the 45-year-old topeka mayor michelle de la isla is a mother of three and will have a pacemaker implanted on monday to fix damage to her heart from covid. she's been hospitalized three different times including surgery to remove her gull bladder because of digestive problems after getting the virus. mayor de la isla is "outfront". i'm wishing you the best because this has to be mentally what you're dealing with and three kids on top of this physical pain that you're going through, can you just tell me what you've been facing through this ordeal and how the symptoms started, how this built? >> well, the first symptom i had in january was rather odd. i was taking a shower and i told my friends i thought my gosh, i'm going to go but at least i'm going to go clean. i was washing my hair and i just felt like life was leaving me. it was the weirdest thing. little did i know that was my
heart. that was the first symptom that i actually had from covid and ended up in the hospital a week after that. i had all the pneumonia symptoms and cough and loss of smell and everything. heart was giving me problems. that's the first time we talked about a pacemaker but the doctor and decided since i was in the middle of covid, maybe now is not the time to talk about it but symptoms i had was symptoms for somebody that could potentially use a pacemaker. came home and had bad chest pains. thought it was my heart. it was my gull bladder. came back home and started recoup rating. when i got my second shot, something magical started happening. i started feeling better. i thought i would start working out and move along and in april things got complicated. end of april i was really running again at the regular pace and riding my bike as long as i typically do, i started having much more problems with
my heart to the point a few weeks ago, i was running a meeting and had to leave and passed out and ended back up in the hospital. after seeing a few specialists, we're doing the pacemaker. it's been -- if i wasn't so focused on the gratitude to know i'm alive when so many people have died with this virus, this is a technical fix, i tell you my emotional state would not be as positive as it is but i'm pretty frustrated because i'm a go-getter and i'm not used to this pace. >> well, i mean, you say you're a go getter, i want to be clear. you had gotten your first shot, vaccine shot and then you contracted covid so this was sort of in between the shots when you contracted it. you were very healthy before covid, and i know temporarily afterwards, right? let's be clear, you're young. you're 45 years old. you're an avid biker and runner. i can't imagine you ever thought that you would be in this situation, right? there is no way you would have ever fathomed such a thing.
>> not at all. not at all. especially with knowing people in the community, i've known people that were older that had -- this was the alpha version of covid that were in the hospital but i did know some younger people that were sick, of course. they had like the runny noses and headaches but they had gotten over it, so the people that i knew in my circle who were letting me know, hey, i had it these were my symptoms. you think if you get it this is potentially what will happen with you. it certainly took me by surprise. >> right. and of course, you're a mayor. you're a mother of three. what you're doing in the midst of this, i find incredible. when you talk about being in the hospital three times, nearly two weeks in total, so people understand how incredibly disruptive this has been to your life and frightening, you talked about passing out in the shower, the gull bladder removal, leaving the meeting to rush to the hospitald dizziness and nausea you felt.
when did you realize you didn't just have a bad case of covid but that you had what now could be called long haul syndrome? >> i think early on after i got out of the hospital i was really having issues with fatigue. the nurses started preparing me because i was asking them when will i be able to start moving typically like i did? it was a few weeks later i got the second vaccine i started to feel some relief. i thought i was done then and then again, back in end of april when things started getting complicated with my heart, i was like my gosh, this is the same stuff. i can't believe it. so yeah, end of april i think is when -- because i think -- i was still having issues with the heart but again, we just thought everything would get better so we put a monitor in. >> right. >> and then end of april it was
just like -- i was telling my doctor, just watch, this is going to go away and resolve. i'll be fine. i don't need a pacemaker and he's like okay, let's put a loop recorder in and monitor your heart and i was just like okay, i'm tired but it's not that bad. i can deal with it, and then april was just like oh, this is no joke. [ laughter ] this is bad -- >> you know -- >> well, mayor, i'm going to be thinking of you on monday. i know our viewers will as well. i imagine how strefl stressful and frightening and we wish you the best on that pace maker and this will truly be the begin of your full recovery. thank you so much for sharing with us. >> thank you. i hope that people take this story and understand it's not a joke. it's real and please if you can get vaccinated please. >> yes, i hope they hear you. calling the border situation unsustainable as record number
>> we are not going to lose. we have a plan we are executing our plan. it takes time. but we will not loads. >> all right. more than 210,000 migrants were detained at the u.s. mexico border last month ed lavandara is out front. >> reporter: or several weeks, u.s. border control officials have released stories look these of minute ago france apprehended at the southern border. border patrol agents in south texas say they're often finding hundreds of migrants a day. >> who wat we're experiencing i unaccompanied children, we don't experience what our border patrol agents are faced with each and every day. >> reporter: for months, the biden administration has been
reluctant to call this a crisis. but u.s. customs says it apprehended the most in two decades in july. thursday, department of homeland secretary ac knowledged the situation presents a serious challenge and told border patrol agents in a private meeting, the migration situation is unsustainable. if the border is the first line of defense, the u.s. will lose. >> what i communicated to them and they very well understood is the fact that we are not in this alone as the united states government. but we, this is a regional issue. but we also are working together to interdict a regular migration and to attack the smuggling organizations. >> reporter: the biden administration says it resumed a fast track deportation program for mieg fwrants that don't get
asylum. some will be taken deep into mexico to deter them from coming back into the united states. some local border officials say it's not happening fast enough. >> this best analg analysis is we can't send people to fix it. >> reporter: he is calling for a moratorium on migrants seeking asylum. >> because what it does, it stops the leak. it gives us time to recover. we have very tired customs and border patrol people. they're overwhelmed. >> reporter: the border shelters in, the are over capacity with the number of mike grants and a pa ready in mission, texas, has been converted into a quarantine camp for migrants who have tested positive for covid-19. city officials say there are more than 1,000 people at the park. critics of the biden
administration are blaming the migrants for spreading the coronavirus. the department of homeland security says the positivity rate among those migrants here is low i er than the surroundin community. the wbiden administrationcy the are leaving it after it was left in shambles from the trump administration. so many people are coming from the central american companies. many say this is an urgent problem that needs solving now. >> all right. thank you very much ed lavandara, reporting on the ground. next is august 13th. it is a big day for pushers of the big election lie and with four hours to go, donald trump is not the united states president as they said he would be today. only pay for what yo! with customized car insurance from liberty mutual! nothing rhymes with liberty mutual.
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