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yeah. >> kelly, we appreciate you coming on. we appreciate your search for answers, which in and of itself i think is important. the work you've done is really important. >> thank you. i appreciate it. i appreciate you. >> thank you very much. all right. obviously brianna, a lot of breaking news today on a lot of different fronts. >> yes. and i'm very excited, i will say, for kelly when little john comes into the world here in about a month. cnn's coverage continues right now. good morning, everyone. i'm poppy harlow. and >> and i'm jim sciutto. the biden administration said they are close to recommending most americans should get a covid-19 booster shot eight months, that's the time frame, after becoming fully vaccinated. this would be a major expansion broadening the pool of people
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encouraged to get an additional dose far beyond those who are recommended now, those are people with compromised immune systems. but there are immediate questions and concerns. the world health organization telling cnn this morning it is critical that everyone around the world get their first and second doses before booster shots are recommended for the fully vaccinated. >> and that's key. also this. after a day of chaos and desperation across afghanistan, pentagon press secretary john kirby tells cnn this morning the united states will do everything it can in the coming weeks to help afghans who worked with the u.s. to safely leave the country. listen. >> after we've done the force flow in, all the troops are in, and then we can just keep running military aircraft in and out, just on the military craft alone, we believe we can get between 5 and 9,000 people out per day. >> we'll have much more on that, of course, in a moment. but let's begin this hour on that news on covid and boosters with our senior health
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correspondent elizabeth cohen. elizabeth, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> is this going to work for people waking up at home? >> for everybody listening now, there is an excellent chance you will be getting a booster in the coming months. this should not be a surprise. this is something certainly that tony fauci and others have been talking about months and months. this is a good thing, saying the two doses of it work well. three doses even better especially against the delta variant wreaking so much havoc and killing so many people. this really is not such a big deal. when you walk into a cvs or walgreens for your shampoo or your tooth paste, you will just go and get a vaccine as well, and that's it. and let's talk about the groups that will be at the highest priority. what sources are telling cnn is that right now the highest priority is immuno compromised. those folks are already able to get their shirt shots. health care workers and nursing home residents and staff would be next on the list and then
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older populations. really kind of the same order that we saw at the beginning of the rollout. and really that's for two reasons. one, those are the folks who are most at risk, and those are the folks who got it longest ago. the thinking is that after eight months we may be seeing some waning immunity, and so we're trying to start with the people who got it furthest back. so if you got your vaccine a month ago, this does not right now apply to you. it will at some point apply to you. it's not a about big deal. it's making an excellent vaccine better. >> it's similar to how we deal with the flu, having additional shots every year as the virus changes. elizabeth cohen, thanks so much. joining me now is dr. jane morgan, a cardiologist at piedmont in atlanta, georgia. good to have you this morning. i want to help our viewers here, because viewers might be wondering, understandably, wait a second, i'm already vaccinated. many are at least, and some are not. i'm already vaccinated, why do i
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need this and what does it say about the vaccine that i've already received? can you explain to people how this works and what additional protection it would provide, a booster? >> certainly. and thanks for having me. one of the things we have to remember is that as we have developed increasing and increasing number of variants, these new clusters of mutations, we've seen the efficacy, the way that these vaccines work drop somewhat. so from 95% to 84 to 82%. and we want to make sure that we can continue to keep the efficacy, meaning how well these vaccines work as high as possible. and so that's why these boosters are going to come about. and we saw pfizer submit to the fda yesterday. they looked at all patients at the eight to nine-month mark. i think they submitted for six to 12 months out. and i think that that is entirely acceptable because certainly people who received their vaccines, say, in december
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and january and february, what we have seen is that we see a waning or slight dropping now after the six-month mark of that immunization protection. >> doctor, good morning. how necessary is this given you said we could face a variant that could overcome the vaccination status of the i am nig -- immunized, right? until we have large swaths that get vaccinated, the virus keeps getting more contagious, more dangerous, threatening young people more. will these booster shots help prevent against at least that rapid acceleration? >> yeah, that's such an excellent question. we absolutely want to get first doses into everyone as soon as possible, such that we can reach herd immunity and it could be, then, that boosters will become unnecessary at some point in the future. but we're not there yet. and because we're not there and we continue to be challenged by these variants because of the
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development in our unvaccinated population, then pfizer and others are moving to get ahead of this inasmuch as we possibly can to protect those who have already been vaccinated and to keep that level of protection as high as possible. we certainly don't want a situation where we have two populations that are at risk, the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. we're trying to make certain that that population can still remain protected. >> right. >> just quickly as a practical matter, will this happen -- would boosters happen like vaccinations, first vaccination shots happened? in other words, free, available, provided by the government, et cetera? >> they will be free as far as i have heard. they are going to be free and available. and the rollout will be very similar to the rollout that we saw with the initial single-dose johnson & johnson and double-dose pfizer and moderna. we will see that rollout in that, in that order with health care workers, front line workers, those 65 and older, and
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we'll continue to see it become younger and younger and younger. we'll have our most vulnerable and most at-risk populations first. >> dr. jane morgan, thank you very much. >> thank you, poppy. >> all right. now to afghanistan where the taliban claim they will grant amnesty, that's what they say, to all employees of the ousted government and that they should continue coming in to work. >> a lot of genuine doubts, and i've heard them from people on the ground there about whether that's true. the situation at the airport in kabul has also stabilized a day after a scene like this, after begans desperately trying to flee simply afraid for their lives under the taliban. and there are thousands more like that, many feeling abandoned betrayed by the u.s. cnn correspondent clarissa ward in kabul pressed the press secretary about their plight this morning. >> reporter: can i have your word? these people are depending on you. they are depending on america. their lives are a threat. they have given everything to
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work with america to rebuild this country. and now they are asking simply for an assurance that they will not be cast aside, they will not be abandoned, that america will step up and take responsibility for the lives that are in its care at the moment. >> clarissa, there's nothing hollow about the obligation we know we have to these afghans who so bravely helped us over the last 20 years. believe me, nobody in the united states government more than the pentagon understands that obligation of these individuals. as i said before, we will continue to do whatever we can to help them get out of the country in concert with our state department colleagues. we are absolutely committed to that and we're going to stay and we're going to do it for as long as we possibly can up until the end of the month. certainly that's when the mission ends. we're going to continue to work on that very, very hard. that's why we're continuing to flow in more forces, why we're continuing to flow in more aircraft. >> one senior white house official tells cnn, quote, there is no second guessing of the president's strategy, but this official acknowledged they are
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under scrutiny after being blind sided, they say, by the taliban surge. that has led to a blame game inside the administration. >> let's get straight to our chief national foreign affairs. thank you for being with us today. can you tell us what those conversations are like inside the white house right now? >> reporter: poppy and jim, good morning. the white house is trying to contain the fallout really from the questions of competence about the administration's handling of the situation in afghanistan. you're right, there is no second guessing of the president's strategy. a white house official telling me that just a short time ago and saying the administration is looking forward, not backward. but it is those questions about how the government fell so quickly and why the u.s. government was not prepared that is raising questions about competence. never in the seven months of the biden presidency have these questions been so blistering and acute, many from allies of this president. now, look at this one comment from a senior white house
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official to me a short time ago that really capsulizes all of what they are saying and doing here. it says, this official told me, yes, our competence is being questioned. the only way to fix that is to stabilize the airport and safely withdraw americans and our partners to the best of our ability. so that, of course, is the central question here going forward. we know the president is at camp david this morning receiving his security briefings on the updates at the airport there in kabul. officials trying to work through getting out americans and partners from afghanistan. but that is going to be certainly something that's not going to happen imminently. it will take several days, perhaps longer than that. the white house national security adviser jake sullivan has many questions to answer for his role in this, if he prepared the president for this. he'll be taking questions this afternoon here at the white house. >> natasha, the saying goes failure is an orphan in washington. what have you learned about pointing, internal finger
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pointing within the white house? >> reporter: yeah, jim. it's already begun, the blame game internally about what went wrong, particularly about how the u.s. failed to evacuate all of those american citizens and all of those afghans who helped americans sooner, before this became a very dangerous and rushed emergency evacuation. what we are hearing is that some at the white house believe that the president got bad advice from his top military and intelligence officials, and the president has been grilling his advisers in recent days from camp david on how they failed to predict that the taliban would take over so rapidly. but what we're also hearing is that the military itself is saying that they were urging the state department to act much sooner, that they were urging them to close the embassy in kabul because the sooner that they closed it and the sooner they were able to start getting people out of the embassy, then the less dangerous it would become if such an emergency evacuation became necessary.
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now, the state department, in turn, is saying that they were relying on intelligence assessments that said that they had more time here. as we know, and as we have reported, the intelligence community was kind of shifting the time line up until very recently as to how long it would take the taliban to overtake kabul. the intelligence community meanwhile is saying we have long predicted the possibility of a rapid takeover in afghanistan. this is what we have been telling policy makers for quite sometime. >> natasha bertrand, jeff zeleny, thanks so much. in this hour i'll speak to national security adviser john bolton about how this happened and where the u.s. will go from here. plus nearly 6,000 students and staff in one florida school district are in isolation or quarantine this morning after an outbreak of covid there and still, the legal battles over school mask mandates are raging. and torrential rains are battering haiti right now as tropical storm grace moves over
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all right. this just in from the american academy of pediatrics. child covid-19 cases have steadily increased, those are their words, since the beginning of july. we are now learning that there were 121,000 new cases last week amid all this, texas is now leading the nation in covid hospitalizations for children, surpassing florida, which also has an alarming number of pediatric covid cases. >> the surge is causing local
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officials in both states to fight back against statewide bans on mask mandates. masks, after all, help prevent transmission. in florida the miami-dade county public school superintendent says after meeting with medical experts, he expects to follow their guidance on masks in defiance of the florida governor's ban. cnn's leyla santiago has more on the growing fight over masks. >> reporter: in florida -- >> masks work. >> it is america. >> reporter: and texas. >> we need to get back to some normalcy despite all of this madness that's going on around us. >> reporter: as students head back into the classroom, school districts are defying the governors, essentially banning mask mandates. florida governor ron desantis. >> parents are in the best position to know what's best for their kids. >> reporter: and texas governor greg abbott. >> kids will not be forced by government or by schools to wear a mask in school. >> reporter: both republican governors ignoring the science and data.
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according to cdc research, in places where mask use was required, fewer people ended up in the hospital. but abbott and desantis are doubling down on their fight against mandatory masks. schools that do not comply will face financial consequence according to both of the governors' orders. in miami-dade county, the superintendent says his decision will not be made out of fear of losing his salary, but advice from his medical task force. >> i am accepting 100% of their recommendations inclusive of mandatory masking with accommodations as determined are in the best medical interest of students. >> reporter: abbott and desantis are both pushing back on legal battles. >> the governor is looking at polls. he's no longer even talking to his own medical experts. he's looking at polls of what republican primary voters want to hear and working from there.
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>> reporter: as both states see rising numbers in the latest covid-19 case surge, a small school district in west texas sent students and staff home to self-quarantine for two weeks after school had already started to, quote, ensure the safety of our students and staff. florida's third largest school district, hillsborough county, already has over 5,000 students and 300 employees in isolation or quarantine because of the rise in covid cases. and school has only been open for one week. >> we want to get our kids back in school. we don't want schools to have to close, and masking is i think a lot of us would say something pretty small that we can do. >> reporter: as public health gets mixed with politics, the president's feud with the florida's governor is escalating. >> i know there are a lot of people out there trying to turn a public safety measure, that is children wearing masks in school, so they can be safe, into a political dispute.
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>> reporter: caught in the middle are children at school. >> joe biden suggests that if you don't do lockdown policies, then you should, quote, get out of the way. i'm standing in your way. i'm not going to let you get away with it. >> reporter: and you know, both governors really emphasizing parents' choice. we've been checking in with the school districts that have mask mandate with an opt-out. the overwhelming majority of parents are not opting out of the mask mandate. today we expect the state board of education to hold an emergency meeting to discuss two counties, that is alachua and broward. they are two counties that have a mask mandate with no opt-out, something that the governor says is noncompliant with his executive order here in florida. >> leyla, thank you for that critical reporting. we'll see where it all goes. meantime, afghanistan's first female mayor says she is waiting for the taliban to, quote, come
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for people like me and kill me. that is how terrified women are in the country right now. her comments come as women and girls across afghanistan fear what is next for them under taliban rule. we will discuss with the human rights activist in afghanistan ahead. and we're moments away from the opening bell on wall street. futures are down. this comes as we wait for key retail data to be released. wall street ended the session mixed monday, but the dow and s&p 500 managed to finish at fresh all-time highs. we're going to keep an eye on the markets. hey, dad! hey, son! no dad, it's a video call. you got to move the phone in front of you it's a mirror, dad. you know? alright, okay. how's that? is that how you hold a mirror? [ding] power e*trade gives you an award-winning mobile app with powerful, easy-to-use tools and interactive charts to give you an edge, 24/7 support when you need it the most and $0 commissions
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this morning one of the most crucial questions out of afghanistan is what is the fate for millions of women and girls who are now once again under control of the taliban. our clarissa ward is on the streets of kabul giving us an inside look. watch this. >> reporter: this shop here, which is selling burkas, burkas are all-consuming, all-covering attire that are very common in afghanistan. were particularly common under the taliban and are enjoying something now of a renaissance because as the taliban have come back into town, more and more women are afraid to walk down the street, even wearing very conservative attire like i am wearing now.
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and so we actually talked to the shop keeper a little while ago, and he told us that he's been selling a lot more burkas because people are frightened. they're coming out, they're buying them for their wives, their daughters, whoever it may be because they feel that from now on, this is the way for women to be safe on the streets. and this is how it starts, okay, because we hear from the taliban again and again women's rights will be protected. women will be allowed to be educated. women will be allowed to go to work. but when you have women so afraid that they're going out to buy burkas because they're worried to be seen on the streets, even dressed very conservatively as i am, you start to understand how the space for women becomes smaller and smaller, how their rights become marginalized and how they ultimately become disenfranchised. >> joining me now, the founder and executive director of learn, an organization that promotes digital literacy across
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afghanistan. and gayle, adjunct senior fellow for the council on foreign relations, also spent years speaking with, interviewing on the ground with women, their struggles and their triumphs across afghanistan. thank you both very much for being here. pashan, i want to begin with you because you have said, i have to put up a fight today so that the next generation does not have to face all of this conflict. and now you have students coming to you and saying, was it all for nothing? look where we are now. are your students safe? >> hi. so, i'm going to say -- go on record and say, yes, the war is over because nobody is fighting right now. so, yes, they are safe. but it's a matter of, you know, do they feel safe going out? no, they don't. is it safe getting an education? no. you have to understand that physical safety and mental
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safety, they're two different things. >> right, and you just heard clarissa's reporting on how it begins, right? what do you think, pashana, when you hear the taliban promise as they did to our nick robinson and christiane amanpour, no, women continue to live their lives and be fully educated, do you believe that? >> see, it's like you have to walk the talk, right. if they are so willing -- study, how come they are not letting the girls in herat study? how come in kandahar from going to the bank? these are all different narrative that you have to talk about. and at the same time i was just talking to my staff member and ask, do you feel safe? he's a guy, right. and he tells me, no. and i was like, whatever women in the family. he's like, my niece, she is not going to school, the private schools are not open. because she's too afraid to go.
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so the taliban have so make a statement, but put it in practice by opening herat for girls by letting the women in kandahar walk and talk and go to banks. you have to understand that these are two different narratives, what you see on tv to get legitimately and what you do on ground, two different things. >> absolutely. gayle, the president, president biden said yesterday, we'll continue to speak out for the basic rights of the afghan people, of women and girls. but you wrote in june, too many international policy makers have never fully stopped to see afghan women's rights and full participation as something other than a nice to have instead of an indy spenceable must do. are they for women and girls in afghanistan or are they turning their back? >> listen, this is not the biden administration at this moment. it's about what's going to happen to people who really
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struggle to be seen as partners in peace and security. there are always so many narratives, poppy. you and i have talked about this so many times, right. life will be better under the taliban or life will be more secure, the taliban promised safety. the next question is, for whom? >> right. >> right? because if you look back at the taliban in 1996, i spent so much time with international officials who said, it was much easier to maneuver under the taliban. and then that same day when i was doing book research, i interviewed a woman who said to me that because the taliban came she could not go to university, she could not achieve her dreams, she could not become a teacher. by the time they left, she had to get married. she was in tears, poppy. she said, they took everything from me. and i've been talking to young people in kabul, and the thing that is absolutely the key is how much fear young women feel right now. >> is there any reason, gayle, to believe that this taliban is different than the taliban of 20
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years ago? because that is the over arching narrative they are claiming. as pashtasha said, show it to us. is there anything to believe in your reporting they have fundamentally changed or are they more savvy of the optics of international media? >> right, i mean, the question is it will be safer for whom. and there will be space for whom, right? the farther you are from power, the more difficult it is to live under the taliban, and there is nobody farther from power than girls. almost anywhere in the world. and that is definitely the case in afghanistan. to her point, herat university, poppy, is 51% female. there were more women applying for university admission in herat this year than men. let's see. the taliban last time around they wanted doctors, they wanted technocrats. there were women who worked as doctors. let's see what happens. let's see how serious they are. >> pashana, to the point gayle
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makes about the future and that we have to wait and watch and see, and that's all that much of the international community can do right now. being on the ground, is there anything, though, that you believe, any pressure points from the international community on the taliban that may be successful in ensuring that women and girls can try to hang on to the advances that they have made? >> that's the right type of question that journalists should be asking about women right now, right. the point is that we want afghanistan, the government is gone. this new government, how do we pressurize them to accepting us. there is no future if there is not a 50%, right. so you have to understand what international community can do. international community is all aid dependent. international community gives aid to afghanistan. they can use that as leverage to pressurize taal been to accepting girls education
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rights, and women's working rights. that's the first thing -- >> who does that hurt? if you pull the aid, does that have an adverse affect on the women and girls? >> let me just put it for you this way. at the same time, our women cannot wait another 20 years for foreigners to come and rescue us again. we have to fight our own fight right now. yes, there are women who are afraid. yes, they are scared for their lives. they're young women, come on. i am -- i have never seen taliban, right. it's the narrative -- not me, of course, but there are girls who are afraid of the taliban. but we have to fight this fight right now, right here in afghanistan. if we don't do it right now, if we don't ask the international community for doing that, there is no chance after them being accepted as a government, they will do anything. so it's high time now that women stand for their rights and at the same time international community into pressurizing them
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into working. because -- they don't have electricity. even the generators in the presidential palace need money. so, yes, there are pressure points that the international community can make. >> thank you so much, gayle, too, thank you very much. we'll talk to you soon. well, we will have much more on the unfolding crisis in afghanistan as we speak with former national security adviser as well as former ambassador to the u.n., john bolton. he's next. there's a world where every one of us is connected. everyone. everywhere. where everyone is included. where everyone has access to information, education, opportunity. ♪ ♪ ♪ when everyone and everything is connected. that's really beautiful.
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president biden is defending his decision to pull troops out of afghanistan. but he says the decision was one he needed to make. >> i know my decision will be criticized, but i would rather take all that criticism than pass this decision on to another president of the united states, yet another one, a fifth one. because it's the right one, it's the right decision for our people. the right one for our brave service members who risked their lives serving our nation. and it's the right one for american. >> joining me is former national security adviser under president trump, ambassador john bolton. thank you for taking the time to be with us. >> glad to be with you. >> first in your view, was it a mistake how the u.s. withdrew from afghanistan or that it withdrew at all? >> well, there are two mistakes at work here. the first is the strategic mistake of withdrawing, which
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biden made, but which trump fully supported. had he been re-elected he would have done the same thing. on this question of withdrawal from afghanistan, trump and biden are like tweed de, and tweed dumb. did it occur in the best possible way? the answer to that is no. it's been a catastrophe and i'm afraid it's only going to get worse. i think biden does bear primary responsibility for that but you see now fingers being pointed saying trump didn't leave us with any plans. we'll have to see how that shakes out. there are two mistakes being made simultaneously right now. >> the original reason, of course, the u.s. went into afghanistan some 20 years ago, was to stop it being a haven for al qaeda. afterwards, other missions came up, building a democratic government, supporting elections, et cetera. that was the initial mission. with the u.s. gone, in your view, will afghanistan again become a haven for terrorists? >> i think that's a very grave risk. i think that's exactly the
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reason that we should have stayed, why we did stay after overthrowing taliban. you're quite correct. a lot of other missions got added on. i think that was clearly a mistake. but it still made sense and would make sense to stay there now as an insurance policy to make sure that groups like al qaeda, isis and others can't take root there, can't get sanctuaries in afghanistan to threaten us in the united states and threaten our allies around the world. >> biden yesterday in his statement pointed the finger, in part, at the afghan military for folding here, which is not an unfair criticism. i wonder where you place the blame, and why you believe the afghan military, supported for 20 years both by american blood and treasure and training and advise and support, why the military didn't stand up to the taliban. >> well, i think this was part of the misconception about what our role was in terms of the nation building project. i think there was a lot of
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emphasis put on a strong central government in afghanistan. i think that's contrary to the historical reality there. i think it could have been done in a lot of different ways. but coming to this conclusion to the effort, you know, the u.s. presence, the nato presence was like the keystone in an arch providing intelligence, support, logistics, air cover, and, you know, when you take the keystone out of an arch, the arch collapses. i think the afghan military saw us leaving and said, it's over. and, look, this has happened in history. dedicated bands of fanatics defe defeating larger militaries. it shouldn't surprise us. >> you during the trump administration very publicly opposed his support for withdrawing u.s. forces from afghanistan. in fact, it's one of the reasons you were pushed out, that disagreement. but i wonder, given your time there -- by the way, president trump was in charge for four years -- what did you, what did the trump administration do to
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sure up the afghan military to prevent something like this from happening? >> well, i think what we were pleading with him to do was not pull the americans out. but i also think it's, again, part of the mistakes made over 20 years. people keep saying, just give us another year. just give us another two years. i think the americans have to understand we would be there for a long time, and properly explained, i think the american public would be ready for that. we stood in germany, in japan for 45 years after the end of world war ii ain order to defea the soviet union. 40 years, we're still there. i think the american people understand a long overseas presence can be in our national interest if their leaders step up to it. >> i remember a conversation with general mccrystal in afghanistan years ago who cited that very fact, the u.s. is still in germany, america can make a case to do the same in afghanistan. there is a conventional wisdom here that despite the mess up on the ground, that both trump and biden have the politics right on
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this, that the american people are done, end the endless wars. i wonder if you believe that's right. >> no, i don't believe it's right. in part, i think it's their failure to explain and understand the strategic reality there. but, you know, very interestingly yesterday got swept aside by the other news, there was a morning consult poll published in politico. the poll taken over this past weekend showed that support for withdrawal fell, overall, to 49% down from 69% in april. but more importantly in response to two specific questions, these results, asked what you would think if u.s. withdrawal would lead to taliban control, only 35% of voters said we should still withdraw. 45% said no. then asked, well, what happens if american withdrawal opens up the possibility of al qaeda or other terrorists coming back? support for withdrawal falls to
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35%, and 48% oppose withdrawal. it's only one poll, i understand that, but it's very, very contrary to the conventional wisdom. and it shows the american people have the gut instinct on the strategic question exactly right. >> i got nervous about taiwan the moment i watched these events unfold in afghanistan, because, of course, china, russia, other countries watch what the u.s. does and say, hey, wait a second, what would they do if i did x? are you concerned if a country like china says if they pull out of afghanistan, there's no way they're going to defend taiwan? >> i think it raises questions in a lot of minds with respect to taiwan, what's happening in belarus right now, in many countries around the world. i think in moscow and beijing they're saying to themselves, this is a huge opportunity for us. i think in iran, north korea they're saying, we just can't wait to negotiate with the biden administration. >> final question before i go just quickly. it is a national security adviser's job as you know to advise a president, speak truth to power, but also carry out his
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policy decisions effectively. given what you've seen on the ground in afghanistan, do you believe that the president's national security adviser jake sullivan or other senior advisers to him should resign or lose their jobs? >> look, i'm not going to pin it on any one person, but anybody who has watched television for the past couple days has seen this was a catastrophe. they're going to be a lot of fingers pointed. but if this was the plan, i'd hate to see what no plan looked like. this was an embarrassment to the united states. it's going to cost us big. >> ambassador john bolton, thanks so much for joining us this morning a. he a thank you for having me. >> and we'll be right back. maks the perfect schmear of cream cheese. the recipe we invented over 145 years ago and me...the world's best, and possibly only, schmelier. philadelphia. schmear perfection. ♪ ♪ i had the nightmare again maxine. the world was out of wonka bars...
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well right now slow moving tropical storm grace is gradually regaining strength in the caribbean. he heavy rains could cause more devastation for haiti. >> the last thing haiti needs. flash floods and dangerous mudslides hampering rescue and recovery there after the massive earthquake that so far has killed more than 14 pun people. joe johns is on the ground at port-au-prince. tell us what it looks like there with the storm approaching. >> right. so from what we could see, the storm has moved out after a long night where many of those people down at the earthquake site in fact first lost their homes and then had to sleep in the rain overnight. i could tell you it is pretty clear that the med evacs are continuing, the u.s. coast guard and others moving people who are
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injured out of the area of the earthquake and over to hospitals here in the city of port-au-prince for treatment. so, all of that continues, but the counting continues as well. as you said, we did get a glimpse of the numbers, 1,400 people killed, something like 7,000 people injured and about 36 or 37,000 homes destroyed and that of course is why so many people had to sleep out in the rain. one of the big questions, of course, here in haiti, is it seems like there are disasters had a happen over and over again and why is the government not more responsive. well we know this is the poorest country in the western hemisphere. but it is beyond that. part of this has to do, plain and simple, with the political instability of haiti. we've had repeated regime
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very good and yet one more busy morning. i'm jim sciutto. >> and i'm poppy harlow. we're glad you're with us. any moment we are expressing a press briefing from the pentagon. you'll see that live here after a day of chaos and desperation across afghanistan. the pentagon said it will do everything it can in the coming weeks to help afghans who worked with the u.s. safely leave the country. >> and breaking news overnight, sources tell cnn that the white house could soon recommend most americans get vaccinated one get a booster shot. those shots would come eight months after being fully vaccinated and would expand the pool of people now encouraged to get an additional dose beyond that who have compromised immune systems. >> so let's tart there. let me bring in dr. sanjay


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