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appearances. >> the election is significant coming up. kyung lah in los angeles for us, thank you very much. to our viewers, thank you very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." follow me on twitter and instagram, tweet the show. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, an internal state memo in july called for urgent action in afghanistan. was that warning ignored? plus, three fully vaccinated senators testing positive for covid tonight in unrelated cases. but what does it tell us how common breakthrough cases are, and the need for boosters now? and florida governor ron desantis giving more medical advice to parents. let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. i'm kate bolduan.
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in for erin burnett. diplomats warned in july they believed the country could rapidly deteriorate and they feared a catastrophe after u.s. troops pull out at the end of august. and tonight, there is chaos and dysfunction in afghanistan, as the u.s. struggles to get tens of thousands of people out of the country. officials today saying over the past five days, just 7,000 people have been flown to safety. these are some we are showing you of the lucky ones. the afghans able to board a flight. but they represent just a fraction of the tens of thousands whose lives are now in limbo. and as it stands tonight, we still don't know how many americans have left afghanistan, and how many remain. >> this is the u.s., this is afghan. >> i do not have a breakdown. i suspect over time, as our manifesting process gets more
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refined, we may be able to be there. but we don't have that specific breakdown. >> how many american citizens remain in afghanistan? >> i don't know. >> well, the 7,000 figure, at this point, i'm not in a position to break that down much further. >> the defense department, the state department, up able to answer what are important questions, important because joe biden has said u.s. troops will stay in afghanistan until all americans are out. even if it is past the august 31st deadline. and in order to know when u.s. troops can leave, you need to know how many americans are still in the country. mean meanwhile, outside the airport gates, this is the scene captured by cnn. rows and rows of men, women, and children, shoulder to shoulder, waiting. no idea what lies ahead. make no mistake, it is a dangerous journey out of afghanistan. i want to warn you, the pictures you're about to see are graphic. here you can see a child being
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carried, his head covered in blood. another woman, wounded after taliban fighters turned on a crowd that was outside the airport. according to reuters, at least 12 people have been killed in the area. and today, pentagon spokesman john kirby walked back comments he made about the taliban harassing americans. here's what he said and his clarification. >> there's been no hostile interactions between the taliban and our forces, or american citizens getting through. i can't saydy fintively that they aren't stopping and/or harassing people with u.s. passports or visas. obviously, we don't want to see that happen. we don't want to see anybody harassed, period. >> but he can't say, because kirby went on to say, the pentagon doesn't have quote unquote perfect visibility into what is taking place outside of the airport. kylie atwood is "outfront" for us tonight. you broke this news tonight of
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the state department cable warning of catastrophe if urgent action wasn't taken. that warning came in mid july. what more are you learning? >> reporter: these were a group of diplomats, most of them in afghanistan at the time. who wrote this dissent memo, this classified dissent memo to the secretary of state you remembering the department to take more urgent action with regard to these afghans, who had worked alongside u.s. troops and diplomats to process them, and evacuate them from the country. i'm told that they wrote this memo, because they felt that what they were telling the department was being viewed as alarmist, and that they needed to write the secretary of state and tell him what they thought the department should be doing. now, we saw a deputy national security adviser speaking last hour to our wolf blitzer about this, and he said that this was a memo that did predict the fall of the afghan government by the time of the u.s. troop withdrawal, august 31, but said that happened much more quickly
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than anyone had expected. he also said that some of the suggestions in this memo were taken on by this biden administration. but i think it's important to note that i'm told that some of the things that were in this memo also weren't acted upon, and that is going to be of interest to folks on the hill who are investigating what went wrong here with regard to the preplanning for the chaos that we are seeing ensue right now. i should also note that the state department spokesperson ned price said that this department values the dissent channel, and also that the secretary of state reviews all of the dissent memos that come his way, and the responses that go out. now, that's all good and well. he didn't comment on this dissent memo specifically. but it is important that those in this department were raising their voice about concerns that the administration wasn't doing enough to prepare for the chaos that they expected to ensue, while you have the president himself saying that the administration did everything
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that they could and essentially the chaos that ensued was inevitable. what these state department officials are saying is that it wasn't inevitable. kate? >> kylie, thank you very much. now to the ground in kabul at the airport there. isha ta 2346nzine is here with now. i know that you're in a military barrack on the north side of the airport right now. we've seen video of the chaos outside of the airport. what is the situation there right now? >> reporter: it's the middle of the night in kabul, so things are a little calm. but during the day, things were just as bad as the videos you showed. i can tell you that, because i heard live gunfire erupting throughout the day. so i could tell that they were using it as a method of crowd control. i also talked to some of the people who came in expecting to be evacuated. and many of them said that the chaos outside was so bad that
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they got separated from their loved ones. they were in panic not knowing where their families were. im met one young man who was crying and he had no idea where they were. one teenager was alone and he said i have no idea where my family is. one young woman with a baby who said, look at me, look at my clothes, look at the condition i'm in. and all of these people were carry nothing luggage, because they weren't able to bring in anything through the crowd. so the scenes outside of the airport are just as bad, and as things are progressing, they're getting even worse. >> the stories you're hearing are horrible. not only to get to the airport, but then what happens to them when they can get through the crush of people. tell me about your own experience, just getting into the airport, which is clearly the biggest challenge right now. >> exactly. first of all, it took me three trips to get inside the first
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two trips, of course, live fire, beating people back with sticks. the security forces are locking the perimeter, i couldn't get in. the current time that i was able to get in, it took two or three hours of being in the crowd, getting pushed around, shoved around, everybody was on top of each other. i saw grown men cry. i saw babies wailing. i saw women break down and having panic attacks. i saw people drenched in sweat, and people breaking into fights with each other. it was a horrendous scene. people couldn't breathe. at one point, i thought some kids were going to get trampled upon. so it was not an easy journey, and i was told that i was there on one of the easy days. so i can't imagine what a difficult day of getting inside the airport is like. >> that makes me sick to my stomach hearing the story you just told. but thank you for your reporting and for what you're doing. "outfront" now, douglas
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london, a cia former counterterrorism chief for the region and the author of the soon-to-be released book "spying and the lost art of american intelligence." also with us david gregory, cnn political analyst. -- i just have to say, what she's saying about what is happening at the airport and outside is horrific. it's worse than -- i mean, hearing that things are moving along easily now from the defense department and state department, it's not true. but i digress. joe biden, on the intelligence and what we knew before hand, he said that, in his words, there was no consensus in intelligence reports that this would happen. nobody anticipated it would go this way. but you, doug, you say the intel was actually spot on. explain.
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>> so it's unfortunate when -- the intelligence failure implies that the intelligence community didn't expect this to unfold or they didn't tell anybody. neither of those cases happened. the intelligence community has been looking at various scenarios. how many troops are there, what is the stability of the government, and the circumstances we've seen over the past few months, not days but months, starting with the major base closure, and then bagram, which really ended the presence of all u.s. military and intelligence platforms, this was anticipated, and it was made clear to policymakers that this was a very possible outcome and could happen in a matter of days, not necessarily months. >> doug, let me ask you then. let's just cut through it. you wrote a provocative piece about this. if there was no intelligence failure, then what happened?
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>> well, unfortunately, intelligence is supposed to inform decision making. but intelligence does not recommend courses of action. the cia is not a policymaking organization. our job is to provide assessments based on the intelligence and the policy options that are being brought to our attention, such as if we do a, what happens? if we do b, what happens? so certainly the case that president trump, when i was th there, it was clear in august of 2017, he was willing to take a different look at afghanistan, understood the threats and concerns we expressed, and decided to invest in a more sustained approach then. that didn't last very long. i think joe biden has been consistent since he was vice president under president obama that he wanted out, and it's clear he did, even under president obama toward the end of his administration. we were actually getting ready to close additional bases, military bases and platforms
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that -- intelligence platforms. but the president changed his mind based on intelligence. but the vice president at the time continued to think we should get out. as a candidate, i think biden had some of those views reinforced by some in his circumstanced who believed the taliban today were not the same taliban of 20 years ago. that they're going to be more progressive, that they're going to need our help. where the intelligence was saying the taliban takes control by keeping that country isolated, by not integrating with the west, and by resuming the same principles of philosophies. the current amir of the taliban, he's a sharia fellow, he's more hardline in his views on what taliban policies should be than his predecessor, who was killed in a military strike in pakistan a couple years ago. >> i'm just going to jump in. david i want to bring you into
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this. and i have to say i'm really impacted by the story we just heard by ayesha who is at the airport. add it to, david, in this moment of crisis, we don't know how many americans are still left in afghanistan tonight. i am wondering how that is possible. what did you think when you heard that today? >> well, it's horrible. the stories are horrible to hear. this is a tragic situation, and a horrifying in so many instances. but i think certainly this was something that could be anticipated. there's no clean way to withdraw in a country like afghanistan. and that's what you're seeing. i think the priority by this administration, i think he says it, which is they wanted to get out of afghanistan. don't forget when, during the obama presidency, it was his vice president, joe biden, who
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argued that he felt the military was jamming obama up on afghanistan omptions, and of course, obama kept a true presence there. biden, the candidate, and biden the president, has been very clear that the troops were coming home. trump would have gotten them out sooner if he could have and put the agreement in place, but i think what's being described here and what people have to understand about the government, there is a momentum that takes hold by policymakers. and in this case, the momentum was toward complete withdrawal. i still think it is a stain on the administration that an extraction plan was not better executed than this, because the result is what we're seeing play out day in and day out. unacceptable. certainly to the president, to his team, but this is the new reality on the ground. and now there's a very real possibility that getting u.s.
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troops out safely was number one. getting additional americans out, which we don't have a complete handle on, and then those supportive of the war effort. that becomes a big question mark about what the u.s. is capable of doing as it's leaving. >> just quickly, david. when the president commits that he's going to stay there until all americans out, he's not committing the same for the afghans who helped the american effort. how much stomach or patience do american people have for troops staying longer to get americans out and afghans out or is that the very rough reality, that they don't? >> i think it's the brutal reality. the reality has been true for over a decade now, maybe 15 years. i remember covering this from the earliest days. all the efforts to save the women of afghanistan from the taliban, that's not why we went. and that's not ultimately what the enterprise was about, as cruel and brutal as that, is and
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as cruel and brutal as the taliban still is. i don't know that there is much appetite. americans stopped caring about afghanistan a long time ago. and a lot of americans are looking up saying why are we still there any way? so yeah, when the news covers, and we have images of this kind of chaos and this kind of, you know, human story playing out, it creates pressure. but i don't think there's going to be a tremendous pressure on the administration to do more than it's doing now. >> david, thank you very much. doug, thanks, appreciate it. "outfront" next, afghans who came to the aid of american troops, they're now left begging for help as they fear for their lives. >> they're going to cut our heads off if they mind my location. >> i'm going to speak to the man in that recording, next. plus, three fully vaccinated u.s. senators testing positive for covid. the cases appear unrelated. are we seeing the need for a booster shot play out in
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its allies and who now are stuck in the country. like one afghan, who is going by the name of abdul to protect his safety and the safety of his family. his fear is evident in this voice mail we played yesterday. [ crying ] >> the american soldiers are forgetting about us after everything we did. the sacrifices we made. why are they leaving us behind? i don't want to be killed by the taliban. they are going to cut our heads off if they find my location. please help. >> "outfront" now, the man behind that voice mail, abdul. he worked for five years as an interpreter for u.s. special forces. he's a visa applicant and
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desperate to leave afghanistan. for his safety, he does not want to show his face and is joining us now by phone. abdul, you said that you and your family need to get out of the country immediately. have you been threatened by the taliban? >> yeah. i have been threatened by the taliban today. i don't know how long should i handle this? >> even today, you're threatened and being followed. tell me more about this, what are the threats, what do you fear is going to happen? >> i went out to get something from the shop for my kids. i went there and i saw like two or three taliban. they were like following me. so i heard something is going
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on. and then i run away. they were after me for a long run, you know. i don't know how more should i handle this? i have a wife and two young kids. we will all be killed if the taliban find us. it's one week i couldn't sleep for a second. i was guarding my family. >> can you describe for me -- i'm so sorry, can you describe what the days have been like for you and your family since the country collapsed? since the taliban took over?
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>> yeah, once the americans leave, our lives will be over. americans will have signed our death sentence. >> at this point, do you think it's a matter of days before something tragic happens to you and your family? >> it is not just a matter of days, it is a matter of seconds, minutes, hours. anything can happen to me. >> have you heard anything from u.s. officials, the united states at all about getting out of afghanistan? >> no, i haven't heard anything. >> we've seen just the crush of people trying to get to kabul airport. have you tried to get to the airport yet? >> i tried many times, but everybody is shooting at us. the taliban, marines, they're
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all shooting at people. >> so you've tried to get to the airport times, you say. and each time -- >> many times, yeah. >> so what do you think -- what needs to happen now? if you can't get to the airport, you can't get out, abdul? >> yeah, something -- i need something, you know, to happen soon. i need somebody to take action soon, to get me out of here. >> what is your message, if you could get a message to joe biden tonight, what is your message to him? >> i'm asking him to please save me and my family. we worked for your country.
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are you going to leave us here to die? [ crying ] please, i am begging you. i am begging america, please help us. >> abdul, thank you for your courage and even speaking up. thank you for helping america. >> yeah, no problem. >> thank you for speaking to us tonight. >> no problem. bye. >> thank you. wow. and now i want to bring in kim motley, an international human rights attorney with 13 years experience inside afghanistan. she's brought abdul's story and the stories of many other afghans to light. kim, it was powerful and hard enough to hear abdul's voice mail that we played. and then just to hear the pain and fear and anguish in his voice, it's really hard.
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it's really hard to hear. >> yes, it is. and it has -- it's just such a nightmare for many of the afghans in afghanistan. they were told if they support the u.s., that we will support them. and i think this is so heartbreaking. i'm just getting dozens and dozens of afghans that are reaching out and sending me voice notes and it's just -- i can't sleep. i can't even imagine what abdul and his family are going through. >> i mean, he says it's not days. he says it's seconds. followed by taliban even today, he said. i mean, i can only imagine what his family is living through every second. and he said that he's tried to get to the airport many times, and he can't get through. his story is not unique in that regard. so many people we are hearing about, afghans who cannot get to the airport.
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multiple sources also are saying that some who have actually made it and arrived that bloodied, mentally distraught, all of their belongings lost along the way, what else are you hearing from the afghans you speak to? >> definitely, people are fleeing their homes with literally the shirts off their backs, the clothes off their backs. they're desperately going to the airport trying to get out, which many feel that's the best way to be protected. and i think what i'm disappointed in is somewhat is not happening. there's no real diplomacy. i mean, i think when needs to be happening right now is there needs to be afghan female leaders who are -- who go to doha and meet with this new taliban afghanistan government and other afghan female leaders with the backing of the international community. we need to talk about women's rights and human rights, and to
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set actual conditional, you know, levers on this, so that we can figure out how we're going to move forward. the international community, you need to back up the afghan women right now. we're not hearing women's voices. we're not seeing women's voices. they're being erased from this society. and women, 20 million women, exist. and they have a right to -- and if you don't protect women's rights, you're not going to protect people's rights. >> kim motley, thank you. >> thanks for having me. "outfront" for us next, three u.s. senators awfully vaccinated. tonight, revealing they have tested positive for covid. does this mean breakthrough cases will soon be the norm, not the exception? plus, for governor desantis says it should be up to parents to decide whether or not to quarantine their kid it is they've been exposed to covid. >> i think quarantining healthy kids deprives these kids of an ability to get an education.
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tonight, three u.s. senators who are awfully vaccinated, announcing separately they have contracted covid. all three senators saying they tested positive after experiencing mild symptoms. it comes after another fully vaccinated senator, lindsey graham, tested positive earlier this month. lauren fox is "outfront" for us from capitol hill tonight. lauren, all three senators announced their positive test on the same day. what more are you learning tonight? >> reporter: i think one underlying factor here is all three of these senator, roger wicker, a republican, angus
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king, an independent, as well as john hickenlooper, they're all vaccinated, kate. and like you sate, this is not the first time we've seen a fully vaccinated senator announce that they had tested positive for covid-19. just a couple of weeks ago, we saw lindsey graham from south carolina making that announcement. there's no way to know exactly where they contracted or got covid-19 from. but one thing to keep in mind, it wasn't that long ago lawmakers are on recess right now, but it was just a couple of weeks ago -- excuse me, a couple of days ago, that they were all on the senate floor for this vote-a-rama, which requires senators to be close together. some were wearing masks, some weren't. but one thing to keep in mind, these senators, in their day-to-day work with cons constituents and each other, they're around a lot of people for a long period of time. one thing that was interesting
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about two of the states we got from king and hickenlooper, they were arguing this is a reminder, and encouragement to get people vaccinated. because one way to really reduce the number of covid-19 outbreak cases is to just make sure more people are vaccinated. so that was something that they wanted to highlight for people back home and constituents. kate? >> lauren, thank you for that. joining me now is dr. jonathan reiner, he advised the white house medical team under president george bush. doctor, three senators, one after another, announcing this, awfully vaccinated. we don't know if they're connected or not. but what does this mean for the rest of us? >> well, first of all, kate, i find it more than a little bit ironic that there was a democrat, independent, and a republican, because the virus doesn't care. the virus doesn't care what your politics are, the virus doesn't care whether you believe in it. but i think we can make some conclusions about this. so first of all, all three of
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the senators are about 70 or above. i think senator hickenlooper is 69. wicker is 70, and angus king is 77. we know in old effort people, and the antibody response is not as robust as for younger people. and it degrades over time. also, we know that these senators were vaccinated were early. all members of congress were vaccinated beginning in the first wave. so they would have been vaccinated in december or january. and that's now eight months out. what we're learning is that the effect of the vaccines wane. as we just heard, their business is to be around people, and the senate has never had a mask mandate. so to me, that's a perfect storm. you have older people vaccinated eight months ago in an environment that caters to people without masks on. this is where you're going to get breakthrough infections.
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to me, it really pushes the case for boosters. >> this could be like a realtime study of making the case for boosters. now, joe biden was asked during his interview with abc news whether he and the first lady have gotten their booster shots. let me play what he said. >> we're going get the booster shot. we got our shots all the way back in, i think, december. so it's past time. >> and the president is 78 years old. are you concerned that he hasn't gotten this booster yet? >> i would have already boosted the president. and i don't think there's any reason for the president to wait for some arbitrary date in september. the president of the united states has a unique security and medical security requirements. so he travels around in the beast and he has secret service with him. and he needs protection frompat.
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he's 78 years old. t he was vaccinated eight months ago, so i would just go ahead and vaccinate him tomorrow with a booster. >> doctor, good to see you. "outfront" next, out of patience. parents asking why the fda hasn't approved a vaccine for kids under the age of 12. one of those parents is congresswoman katie porter, a single mom of three. and trump allies seizing on the chaos in afghanistan to incite fear in immigration and influx in refugees. washed your hands a lot today? probably like 40 times. hands feel dry? like sandpaper. introducing new dove handwash, with 5 x moisturizer blend. removes germs in seconds, moisturizes for hours. soft, smooth. new dove handwash.
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kofd h covid hospitalizations in the country hit a high. "outfront" now, congresswoman katie porter, a single mom of three kids who went back to school today, one who is 9, not yet eligible to be vaccinated. so to your letter, what specifically do you want to know from the fda? >> parents need to know what the fda's plan is and what the timeline is for authorizing vaccinations for children. we lost a really important moment with back-to-school already occurring, which we could have been educating parents and offering vaccines. so parents need simply about what is the process, how long is it going to take, what is the cause for the delay? the fda received an official batch of data, so what did it show? our job as representatives is to get those answers and to share that information with our constituents. >> do you think the fda is not moving as fast as they can, they're not moving with all
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urgency? >> i couldn't say for sure, but i can tell you, i think they're failing to communicate. i think what would be very helpful to know is if they're not ready now, to tell us when they will be ready, and what are the steps -- what's standing in the way of being ready? and the american academy of pediatrics is also very concerned. they issued a letter recently saying that the delta variant has changed the risk/benefit calculation for vaccinating younger children. so we need to have this information. so the fda, if they need two more weeks or months, the american public should be kept apprised of the process and what are the roadblocks they're facing? we shouldn't be wondering if they're just sitting on their hands. >> they're still waiting for data from the drug companies. but seven months into his presidency, joe biden has not yet named a permanent commissioner for the fda. do you think that would help? >> i'm not sure if it would
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help, but that's the point of the briefing, is to put answers -- put questions to the fda and get answers. we do know the drug companies started conducting these trials in children quite some time ago. i, as a parent, have tried to enroll my daughter in every clinical trial i can. she hasn't gotten into any. so i think we need answers from the fda. if the problem here is that the acting commissioner isn't up to speed or being slowed down, we do need to turn to pushing to the appointment of a permanent commissioner. so i think the preliminary question is, what is the status, and what are the next steps? >> i want to play something that florida governor ron desantis is being outspoken out about now. we mentioned you are a parent, he's a parent of three kids himself. he's saying that quarantines for kids exposed to covid should be a choice left up to their parents. listen to this. >> i think quarantining healthy kids deprives these kids of an
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ability to get an education. now, maybe a parent would want a healthy kid to be quarantined if there's an exposure, but i think that should be the choice of the parent. >> there is cdc guidance on this. there are some exemption it is both kids in class are wearing masks or not. but on its most basic, what do you think the advice that governor desantis is handing out? >> i'll just say that he is not a public health official. he's not a scientist. he's not a virologist. so we need to follow the science. i think that parents who send their kids to public schools have an -- or send their kids to school or in the community have an obligation to keep their kids safe and other kids safe. i think families who are partially vaccinated like mine are facing that. the decisions that i make, that my older children make, we make because we're keeping my daughter in mind who isn't able to be vaccinated.
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i think the goal here is for families and schools, in pa partn partnership, to be following best public health practices. we'll get those from the kdcdc. our job is to get that scientific information and then share it. unfortunately, that's not what he's doing. >> congresswoman, thank you for your time. "outfront" next, the right stepping up attacks on afghan refugees who served alongside u.s. troops. >> all day, we've heard phrases like, we promised them. who did, did you? plus, breaking news out of texas tonight. the state now on the verge of passing a controversial voting bill. so you only pay for what you need. hot dog or... chicken? only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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states even claiming it's simply an attempt to change the population of america for political gain. tom for man is out front. >> reporter: all day we heard phrases like we promised them. who did? did you. >> reporter: the torrent of intolerance is hot. >> bring in the refugees. >> reporter: on conservative media, incendiary statements the far right is torching the idea that mireiracle -- america owes anything to them. >> those who are advocating mass afghan resettlement are doing so for political, not humanitarian reasons. >> reporter: advocates are hitting back. >> that guy doesn't represent america. >> the afghan uproar fits so neatly into former president trump's stance.
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releasing this statement monday, can anyone imagine taking out our military and others who are good to our country and who should be able to seek refuge? then this plane should have been full of americans. america first. this one pi a former adviser showing that same image with a caption. raise your hand if you want this plane landing in your town. many big name republicans are actually raising their hands to help welcoming afghan i78 m imms to their state creating a huge rift in the party. >> we owe it to these people who are our friends and worked with us to get them out safely. >> reporter: they helped our military members and now we stand ready to help them in ours. it is vitally important. it is our duty. we are eager.
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we will take them. there is no time to spare. it is the least we can do. still, it is more than some can bear. >> so first we invade and then we're invaded. it is always the same. >> reporter: this is one of the nastier and more open rifts we have seen in this party in quite some time. that parade of big republican names underscores it. this issue is not going away any time soon. this could last for months, maybe years. refugee issues maybe do so this fight could keep burning out there. >> tom, thank you so much for that. out front with us now, republican congressman charlie dent. charlie's revealing that an afghan refugee lived with his family for some time. sammy is her name. she lives in colorado. is an inspiring doctor. i want to talk about sammy in a minute. first, you heard the rhetoric
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and hate. what do you say to those who are in your party. >> it would be completely and utterly dishonorable. i just think it's reprehensible. i think we should be listening to what senator romney and lee and mcconnell and governor hogan and the others you just identified were saying the right things that we have to take in our fair share. i've been to afghanistan twice. i would thank them for helping our troops. they're vital. we had korean refugees. >> let's talk about sammy now.
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this is the first time you're talking about this . sammy needed a place to stay and you welcomed her so she could finish her senior year of high school so this hateful rhetoric we're just talking about hits especially close to home for you. >> this is strictly humanitarian. young sammy lived with my family. i would tell my children, we never have anything to complain about. she lost her father, executed in front of the taliban. they come to america. the mother gets in a car accident, becomes a
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quadriplegic. they're trying to live hand to mouth, take care of their mother, go to school, scratch out a living. we felt it was their duty. it was our contribution. i can't tell you how proud i am foreher and her family for what they've been able to accomplish under the most difficult of circumstances in afghanistan and america. >> she told us her mom would dress her as a boy as a kid so she could learn. you, here's a quote from her, you were an amazing father figure in my life. just the most wonderful family i've ever known. a very powerful story. how does it feel for you to hear this? >> she's a sweet kid. she gave us far more than anything we ever gave her. she brought a lot of joy to us. she was a great american kid.
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i -- look, i just feel like we just did our little bit to help her. if you are concerned about the refugees, go meet some. that's what this is about. meet them. you don't know how good we have it. don't make this a political issue. do your part. just help. >> thanks for sharing. >> breaking news. we have to turn out of texas. the state is poised to pass a bill the democrats claim will seriously restrict voting rutsds. they returned to the house
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floor. it puts new restrictions on mail-in voting and grants new powers to partisan poll watchers. >> ac 360 starts now. we begin tonight with 9 seconds of video that speak to the chaos and desperation in afghanistan. take a look. >> what you see happened at the airport perimeter in kabul. that's a baby being handed to american troops on top of the wall. we can't say much more than that. we don't know why the child was handed over nor do we know where the child'