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ethel kennedy, the widow of robert f. kennedy, doesn't want his killer free. last month a california parole board recommended sirhan sirhan's release. she issued a statement, our family and our country suffered an unspeakable loss due to the inhumanity of one man. we believe in the gentleness that spared his life, but in taming his act of violence, he should not have the opportunity to terrorize again. a 93-year-old avid in her own handwriting, he should not be paroled. she joins six of her children in opposing. two have signaled their support for his release. sirhan assassinated robert f. kennedy in a los angeles hotel in 1968 at a time kennedy was running for president. sirhan told the parole board he values his life and would never put myself in jeopardy again. let's hand it over to chris. >> appreciate it. hope you had a good weekend. >> i'm chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." happy new year to my jewish
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brothers and sisters. sadly, there is no similar fresh start to celebrate in afghanistan. we don't even know how many americans and allies are being kept from leaving. now, that's the phrase we are going to focus on. kept from leaving. some by the taliban as expected. and in the latest development here's our troubling question. is our government actually hindering the effort to get americans out of afghanistan? tonight as we promised you, we will continue our coverage, including the saga of the translator we call sara, who is still trying to get home. we have an update from her that you are going to want to see. now, as to the political side of this, the top republican on the house foreign affairs committee alleges the taliban now isn't letting some americans and afghan allies leave who are stuck at mazar-i-sharif airport. in afghanistan.
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mccaul used the phrase hostage situation. but our secretary of state rebutted it earlier. >> were you able to relatively a small number of americans seeking to depart from mazar-i-sharif with their families. we have been assured that all american citizens and afghan citizens with valid travel documents will be allowed to leave. we are not aware of anyone being held on an aircraft or any hostage-like situation in mazar-i-sharif. >> mazar-i-sharif. that's where they are. the question is, how many, and for how long? here is the problem with what we just heard from the secretary of state. it all makes sense except for the level acceptance of the source, not blinken, but the taliban. what does valid travel documents mean to them? he says america has been assured
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by the taliban that citizens and allies can get out, but i don't get how they can be so quick to accept that when they are hearing differently from the ground and, remember, these are the guys that they say they just trust. [ gunfire ] >> you know what that person is running from? the taliban. acting like barbarians, firing on crowds of protesters, large numbers of women in kabul. that's who we rely on? you are just going to take their word from the same taliban who allegedly murdered a pregnant policewoman in front of her family? now, it's not just a republican hate parade. on the democrat's side one of the senators on the armed services committee is calling out the state department, richard blumenthal, you don't get more democrat than him, okay? he says his staff has, quote, worked night and day to secure the safe passage of two planes waiting in mazar-i-sharif. i have been deeply frustrated, even furious at our government's
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delay and inaction. so now before you biden supporters attack me for being unfair to the administration that is a democratic senator saying the same damn thing. because that's what the reality is on the ground. and it has to be remedied. this isn't left or right. you have to be reasonable right now. four american citizens, thankfully, were apparently just able to escape. and tony blinken says we should thank the taliban. >> they've upheld that commitment in one instance in the last 24 hours with a family that was able to leave through an over land route. >> look, i get that it's a tough spot. i get they're in control, the taliban, but this is a dangerous
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game. by the way, a republican on the house intel committee has a very different account. markwayne mullin, you have seen him on the show, he identifies this family as an american named myriam and her three kids from amarillo, texas. listen to him. >> we have her at the gate multiple times, multiple times we was on the phone with the state department the last two weeks trying to get her out, and they wouldn't even open the gate for us. we had her there for 24 hours before the state department was even aware she was there. they didn't show up until a few hours after we -- before we got her across. for them to say they facilitated is absolutely a lie. we had to go through 20 checkpoints. we were negotiating back and forth. the state department was actually told at one time, actually told the embassy in the country not to assist us in any way. for them to take credit and say they negotiated with the taliban it is absolutely a lie.
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>> now, look, could he be wrong? yeah. but he could also be right. how? listen, you are going to hear from other people tonight who are veterans, who are trying to do the right thing and they are encountering silence or resistance with the state department. i am not ascribing animus. i am not saying that the state department is trying to hurt people, americans in afghanistan, but that doesn't mean that they are doing the job as well as they can and being straight about it. now, we have someone who helped pull off this family's escape tonight. he was on the ground with them. first, let's keep it close to home here with the -- our own situation, okay? remember sara, the translator? she didn't want to leave because she wanted to help the other people and their kids. she is an american. she has been desperate to get out and things are getting harder. she has been on the move with more than a dozen afghan allies and kids since last week. now, we blur the faces to
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protect them because god forbid they don't make it out, somebody sees the video, they got trouble. why show the video? to keep you interested. to show you the reality. to show you the desperation. sara is exhausted but recorded a new video for us to tell us just how hard this has been and may still be. listen. >> i don't know where to start. there is so much pain. and it's heartbreaking. so i tried everything in my power to leave this country, going gate to gate, walking gate to gate, show them my passport, screaming to the people who were controlling the gate. i cannot leave this country since august 16. i tried everything to leave. i don't know what went wrong. and why i couldn't leave. but i just want to record this for my family and my friends so they know what's going on. i have young kids and i have
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women, i have guys who are been waiting for so long, since 2017, 2018. they have been waiting. >> it's a long video. but that's the main thrust of it. sara doesn't sound great because she's not great. not just emotionally, but physically. she has been sick. the guest i want to bring in now, not just better mind, they know about the situation and they are better men. sam rogers, a former afghan war vet, coalitions director with the concerned veterans for america foundation and harvey, co-director much which has been working directly with sara trying to get her where she is right now. i hope labor day weekend was good for you and your families. i know you were working through it because we were texting. thank you for continuing to do
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the job. sam, an update from you on sara. she was sick. you were trying to get her help on the ground. some of the kids are now not feeling well. any idea what it is and whether or not she can get remedied? >> yeah, chris, it's looking like flu-like symptoms. for folks who are exhausted, many of whom have been injured, you know, they are low on cash. they are low on food. they are low on clean water. they don't have power. this is an austere environment where illness can turn sideways very quickly. you know, sara is just terrified she is going to get left behind again. why shouldn't she be? she crisscrossed the country with kids and folks in tow. the state department outreach has been an occasional email or robotic phone call that says shelter in place. you might as well say wait and
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see and that's the only messaging she has ever heard from the state department. >> harvey, you guys do all this logistical work. you get her to a place where you are willing -- ready to get her out and then you can't. are these complaints about the state department valid in your mind? >> yeah, absolutely. as you saw from the over land operations, the impossible is happening every day. sara looking after 22 children, being moved to safe houses, being moved across the country that is in a state of incredible flux. you are achieving all the things that are being achieved and getting to a point where they are good to go, and then not having that end stage because the state department won't clear these aircraft because they have tied themselves into a knot. it is incredibly frustrating. we will, of course, keep doing
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everything that we can do to sara, but this is not a situation that resolves itself. as sam said, this is a situation that only gets harder by the day. and that is something that the state department absolutely have to under. this is not going away. every day is going to get harder for sara. i wish that the state department were displaying some of the fortitude she is showing at this point. >> sam, the pushback would be, listen, i appreciate what you are doing, but you don't know who these people are. you may know who sara is. she not the problem. it's the other people you want to bring with her. what if they are isis-k? what if they are not supposed to be qualified? is that fair pushback? >> that's the point of the siv process, the point of having these planes filled with people land in a third-party country where the state department can
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conduct rigorous vetting in coordination with other agencies. but instead of any of that happening, it's just a flat no, there is nowhere to land, nowhere to go, and hoping that the problem will go away. this is not checking blocks at the dmv for a driver's license. this bureaucratic problem-solving, it's not going to solve. we need barriers torn down to getting folks out, getting them vetted, getting them processed instead of more barrier erected in our path. >> the pledge continues. as you give me information, i'll repeat it. i am here because i have to echo your efforts and what you are trying to do por people who are sit zients an need help. sam, where do people go if they want to help contribute to your efforts? >> check out allied extract our partners that harvey is a part of. they have done an amazing job. it's critical to remember that, you know, leaving afghanistan was the right decision and we are going to hold the people
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accountable who have botched this process for the last 20 days and the last 20 years. but we have to fulfill our obligations to translators and their families for moral purposes, as a country of character and we need folks like these in future wars. we will see how we botched this and refused to own it and fix it and they may not help us protect our service members in the future. >> allied extract is the organization. thank you for the help that you are providing. sam rogers, thank you very much. i will be back with both of you. you know how to get me. all right? and later in the show we will talk to somebody on the ground in afghanistan who has been dealing with exactly this to talk about how big the challenge is and what time means. back at home, we have our own time sensitive battle. covid. and the numbers are getting worse. we kind of expected that post-labor day. now this is a new phase. all our kids are going back to
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house, but it is certainly marked this year by hesitation and reservation for many. just look at the rise of child covid cases and you'll see why. according to the american academy of pediatrics, kids now make up more than one in four weekly covid cases in this country. you remember when we used to say, yeah, at least it's not the kids, thank god. no more. a 250% increase from july. covid has caused one school district to shut down in-person classes already because of what? cases leading to a lack of transportation. three of their transportation employees died within a two-week period after reporting covid complications. could there have been comorbidity? yes. do you know how much of this country's adults have what fits in the category of comorbidity
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like what? obesity, type 2 diabetes, hypertension. now students are going back to virtual instruction which, yes, sucks. the district has also reported 116 students who have tested positive. 452 kids in quarantine for close contact. we have the super superintendent for griffin-spalding county schools dealing with this problem. thank you for taking the opportunity on "prime time." >> thank you as well. >> now, when you are looking at the problem, the idea that you know what it's being caused by and how to remedy it, is that true? >> not necessarily. i think i have ideas about what the problem is because in some of those, the target appears to be moving. the remedies are also as elusive. >> so when you look at the
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problem, why did you get here? >> in some ways we got here because we were trying to provide quality educational experience for our students and for whatever reason, unfortunately, this particular variant has attacked the adults at a faster rate. it's attacked our student population at a faster rate. unfortunately, you know, we have had losses of life and it's hard to put those things into words. i remain heartbroken for each of those families and their loved ones. but that's where we are. >> losing your life to covid complications, that's the way it's reported. now, look, there could have been comorbidity, but covid seems to have been a factor. does that drive kind of a breakthrough for people in your area that, hey, listen, this is more serious than we expected, the vaccine, i have to consider it? >> i hope that it does. i believe that it does. and that's the reality, chris.
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at the end of the day, while people will listen to what you say, they believe what they see. and while i hate that these are the experiences that have been cast upon our community, our school districts, these are the realities and we have to find a way to mitigate them. many would say that closing schools would be the best way to go about that. many would say that vaccines would be the best mitigation effort. but in some ways we have observed vaccinated employees come down with the virus and we have observed those who have not been vaccinated who have been able to avoid it. so, again, it's an elusive process. we are doing the best we can to mitigate it and ensuring that our students and staff remain healthy and well. >> when i said that virtual instruction sucks, i am speaking to parents. i know the teachers are trying. i go through it with my three kids. and now two of them are going back to regular school, the other one is in college. i get that everybody's trying. it's just not as good, especially for kids who need the
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direction and who have trouble with attention. you know these things. so how are parents respond to go going back to virtual learning, not mentioning home care issues and what that means for their ability to work? >> those are the challenges. those challenges are real. aisle be honest. i am proud of the way the families have responded. they understand that on any given day we will put our best foot forward to provide a quality educational experience. at the same time, when we are at capacity, not enabling us to do that for in-person learning, this is what we resort to. it is not preferred. we are built to provide in-person instruction. we have allocated our staff to do that in the buildings. this is our effort. this is the need to be pivotal. this is a need to be agile and so that's where we are. we will make the most of it. we will make the best of it. my hope is that we won't have to do it long term. >> that's going to be the key. how long until they could get back.
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listen, mr. simmons, i appreciate your candor and we are a call away. we will update your story when you tell us there is a change, okay? >> yes, sir. >> god bless, good luck, and stay healthy. >> thank you. we told you about four americans who are just able to escape afghanistan with u.s. troops now gone, okay? a mom and her three kids, the state department says or makes it sound like they made it happen. an organizer of the private mission to free them says otherwise. he was on the front lines. he is next.
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let's make the post-labor day pact. forget the left and right. let's be reasonable when it comes to getting people out of afghanistan who belong in america. we need the state department to make this happen. the military is out of the game. at least that's what they tell us. the state department is saying they helped facilitate the departure of four american citizens via an over land route to a third country is great. an official tells us our embassy greeted the americans as they crossed the border into the third country. the question is, is it true, because we have to have the department of state more involved and we're hearing so
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much reporting from the ground that they are not getting it right. republicans involved in the rescue effort like my next guest say the state department thwarted the efforts on the ground helping to get a woman and her three kids out. army combat veteran corey mills joins me from a bordering country with afghanistan. he is a also a florida congressional candidate and republican. now, they are going to think i am blurring your face and kind of not. this is your lighting. you're back lit. it's fine. i appreciate you being with us and i appreciate your efforts on the ground. what is the truth about the state department knowledge and role in your extraction? >> well, chris, thanks so much for having me. i apologize for the back lighting. this is about as good as i could get. >> it's fine. >> so bottom line is, is that i think that when it comes to the amazing guys who are here in country that i'm operating out
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of, i think the state department has been very helpful and supportive. i think the issue is that d.c. and state department and the swamp, they are really where the problem has existed. we had the ability to go in in the beginning days to land an aircraft that would have evacuated 25 americans out that we identified, coordinated with, and we had already had a crew of pr, flyover approvals, everything necessary to put the aircraft on the ground, had an hour's time on the ground, could have loaded or staff that were just -- our team, excuse me, just outside the gates, got them in, got them on and got them out. that was the original plan. that was thwarted by the state department and the dod where they tried to deny our ppr, put us in pattern for 15 minutes and then said if you land this aircraft that we are going to take the aircraft certificate, ground the pilots and have an f-16 go ahead. that would have been 25 americans. so this land bordering crossing
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wouldn't have been necessary if we landed at that time. on the second occasion where we finally had to get those families out of kabul and into a different location they were manifested on another aircraft, that aircraft approved by the taliban, had been approved by the dod, approved by the state department, and right before the nth hour, the state department canceled that flight or disapproved that flight because they wanted to vet the manifest, which i can understand and appreciate, but these are americans who are basically being left behind. now, again, one of the statements that you made which i completely agree with, this isn't a time to throw mud and be a political animal that says the left or right did that. we welcome the state department's support. we actually received some of that support when we were in this bordering country once we were kind of on that 99 yard line. i think the amazing guys i have been able to be on this team with -- i don't lead this team. i am not the organizers but i am a member of this team. what we have been able to do
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here i think sets the white paper, the proof of concept that with a little bit of help from the u.s. government i think it's joint kind of public/private partnership could help these americans to get out. >> corey, a couple of things. because you did it over land which i was just talking to the other vets who were doing that. they are like, that's so hard. it's so much easier to get them to a place to fly them out. for all the obvious challenges that are absolutely common sense to you. now, the state department's side of the argument is, listen, we want to do everything we can, but what if corey mills or your buddy sam rogers or these other groups are smuggling out isis people or people with fake papers or people who want to hurt us? we have to be able to check. what's the answer? >> i can agree with then 100%. when we worked with the state department here this certain country, we provided passport photos, we allowed them to check the biometrics. we had done all of our due
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diligence. we identified which district these individuals were from, from texas 13. yeah, i understand that there is a near far recognition piece of this. i understand that we cannot any type of terrorists to get on to aircraft or to try to get across borders at the help or behest of the americans. but i think there is an answer. there is a validation. there is a verification point which we can all, you know, kind of come to an agreement on. so, i don't want that to be kind of, you know, the devil's in the details, but i don't want to prevent americans and keeping them in harm's way when there is an easy way for us to gather documents and move them across the land. >> now to what i should have asked first but i'm insensitive and old. you are a bronze star recipient, a veteran, you served our country and i respect you and appreciate you for that, as we all should. you went back into afghanistan under taliban rule to help these people get out. what is it like in there right
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now? >> well, chris, you know, when we went across it was just kind of to that bordering area. it wasn't a full-fledged assault into country. yes, you are taking that risk. yes, obviously, you are coordinate to go meet them at that area. i have a team member who is with us who is an amazing guy, speaks five languages, so he is able to actually talk with the taliban commanders and try to make these coordinating efforts. it's not with me or our efforts. our whole team was really incredible with the strength of skill sets from -- >> you didn't know that they wouldn't go bad on you once they got you on your turf. >> sorry? >> you didn't know they wouldn't go bad on you once they brought you into their turf? . >> no, we did not.
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i think they looked as it as a calculated risk. the family took the biggest risks by us trying to coordinate and get them into different areas. our team members who were overseas in afghanistan right now who are assisting these americans, by the way, who are deserving to come out of country, these are afghans with sivs that i worked with for years. they are helping us to do a lot of this over land crossing. we are doing the coordinating to get them back. in is all going to be simplified if we basically work together with the u.s. state department and we come together to try to get these americans out because there are americans who are stuck. the taliban are holding them and there is no coordination being told, if you show a blue passport you can be let in. i can confirm that's not true. >> i hear you. i heard it from others. let's be honest. you shouldn't be within 100
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miles of this effort. this should be the united states, its government, its military, they should be doing this. i mean, when the history is written of all of this, we have never seen anything like this before. where veterans are working with people state identify and other allies to get people out of a country because the united states officially left. corey mills, as i a said -- >> it's a dunkirk, chris. >> yes. that's not polite to say to dunkirk, digital dunkirk and what happened there. it's a hashtag that originated. we didn't think it up. there is a huge effort state side and country coordinated by veterans and allies to get people out. i will keep covering it. thank god you are safe and i appreciate what did you and your candor here today. >> chris, thanks so much. my thanks to you will aft -- members of my team. thanks to the state department personnel who are here in country willing to help us. they really supported us a lot. again we are volunteers. we are doing this on our own. you know, all through donors and
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was concerned about his daughter's behavior and overall mental health and went as far as to discuss a possible psychiatric hold with co-conservator jody montgomery. montgomery denied it. but jaime spears' filing today says, quote, recent events related to this conservatorship have called into question whether circumstances have changed to such an extent that grounds for establishment of conservatorship may no longer exist. miss conspiracy told the court she wants control of her life back without the safety rails of a conservatorship. what changed? joining me is cnn entertainment reporter with the scoop, khloe and lisa, an attorney who specializes in the conservatorships and a supporter of the free britney movement. khloe, you got the scoop. what do you know about the timing and what do you see within the documents? >> i mean, it's a 112-page petition, chris. i don't think anybody saw this coming. for 13 years not one person in britney spears' family has filed
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a petition to terminate. it turns out her father is the one to file a petition to end this over a decade long conservatorship. so the next hearing is in just a couple of weeks. so the judge looks like she is going to hear this. if she sets this for a hearing. and the conservatorship is going to be terminated. but why is had her father doing it now? britney said at two hearings over the summer she wanted to charge her father with conservatorship abuse. now britney spears' lawyer saying he sees a sense of victory, this is because of the mounting pressure from himself and the free britney movement to step aside and that he still wants jaime spears to sit for a sworn deposition. i don't think that this is going to be ending, chris, anytime soon. and we still haven't heard from britney spears tonight. >> lisa, you are nodding your head a lot. i find that compelling also.
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what does this mean to you legally? >> so it's very exciting that there is now a petition to terminate this conservatorship. the problem is, we don't know when it's going to be set for hearing. i am hoping it will be joined with the other petitions set for september 29th. and if it is, and they give notice, it could very well be the end of the conservatorship for britney. the only question is whether or not jamie put in any requests, for example, that his petition be approved -- or his accounting with all of the fees and all of the expenses that he has paid on behalf of the conservatorship. that's the big question. >> well, let me come to you for that. do you know anything from the documents that are in there? >> yeah. so jaime spears is asking for almost $2 million. that includes a salary for himself of almost $500,000 and legal fees to his legal team. so, you know, we know that britney spears' attorney,
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matthew, filed in a petition last week, chris, that they do not want to pay those $2 million and he has said that it's extortion of his daughter. so how is this going to be settled? i would love to know on september 29th if the dad is going to away without his $2 million and are we going to see a potential jury trial? is this really over? is britney going to try to charge her father with conservatorship abuse? you know, she is so angry at so many members of her own family. her sister. her mother, lynn spears, who has sat by while raking in money from britney spears' multi-million dollar estate while she is on tour and working, and albums. britney is angry, rightfully so. we will have to see what happens. chris, it ain't over yet. it's not over. >> no. look, nobody saw this coming until you alerted us that you got a tip on this.
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this is developing in the moment. we have to find out what the co-conservator wants, jody montgomery. that will be a key piece. >> right, exactly. right now jody is serving as temporary conservator of the person. and all he would have to do is take away britney's petition that was prepared by sam and her conservatorship will terminate by operation of the fact that it's set to expire in october. so really nothing needs to be done, and matt should take advantage and take off calendar sam's petition. remember, sam petitioned to have jody appointed permanently. so all they have to do is take that off calendar and jody's letters of conservatorship, terminate in october. so that's actually pretty close to being a done deal. >> okay. so that's actually pretty close to being a done deal. >> okay. >> again, on the -- >> go ahead. is there a final point that needs to be made? >> so the final point is that jamie can terminate the conservatorship of the estate.
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and you can be over with. and it is proper and ethical to let britney spears have her civil liberties back as soon as possible and they can go on and fight about the money, as chloe was saying, for years to come. so this isn't entirely over no matter what happens in september. >> all right. chloe, thank you very much. lisa, appreciate you both on this. again, great scoop. thank you very much for bringing it to us. we'll be right back. ♪ on the top too ♪ ♪ two straws, one check, ♪ ♪ girl, i got you ♪ ♪ bougie like natty in the styrofoam ♪ ♪ squeak-squeakin' in the truck bed all the way home ♪ ♪ some alabama-jamma, she my dixieland delight ♪ ♪ ayy, that's how we do, how we do, ♪ ♪ fancy like, oh ♪
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is no more of this, drive-through voting at places like the toyota center of houston no longer available? who knows how many people were saved from covid. it will be tougher for the elderly, the sick, the physically challenged to vote by mail. and public officials can't send in unsolicited mail-in ballot applications anymore like they did in harris county, which is where houston is, by the way. it does give cover, though, to partisan poll watchers while making it harder to help disabled voters with their ballots. this is the game and this is what happened while democrats looked on as republicans targeted and won state houses. sb 1 becomes at least the 31st state law restricting voting rights in this country so far this year. that's according to the brendan center, one of several groups now suing texas over the bill that led democrats to leave the state twice in hopes of stopping. remember that? until they hit a brick wall of 60 votes in the u.s. senate to get a federal voting rights bill
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done. the texas bill is now law. built on the bull that is the big lie about the 2020 election. there was nothing to fix. there was no big fraud. speaking of bills with bull, at that same bill signing governor abbott defended his abortion plan which makes no exception for rape or incest with more of his misleading talk. >> obviously, it provides at least six weeks for a person to be able to get an abortion. let's make something very clear. rape is a crime. and texas will work tirelessly to make sure that we eliminate all rapists from the streets of texas by aggressively going out and arresting them and prosecuting them and getting them off the streets. so goal number one in the state of texas is to eliminate rape so that no woman, no person will be
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a victim of rape. >> what were you clapping about? of course rape is a crime. what does that have to do with restricting reproductive rights? do you know under that bill, give me this answer people who were clapping. so if somebody rapes somebody else committing a crime, do they surrender their right under this law to sue someone else who helped the victim of their rape exercise their reproductive rights? it's not in the bill. if you think you're going to stop all rapes because of this bill, take a look at your own data. the number of reported rape cases, a crime long before this governor showed up, went up nearly every year since he's been in office. now, if i were abbott, i would probably connect the fact that it's going up to this bill because that's as much crazy irrationality as him getting applause for saying i'm going to try to stop rape to justify not
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including it as a protection for people if they are raped. more people are coming forward. that's why you see more rapes reported. and let's hope the slight downward trend in the most recent numbers is a positive sign but for now, this is about women feeling empowered, and women impregnated by rapists in your state just lost the right they have to exercise control over their own body, something they have right now everywhere else in this country. and about that six-week language, it's not how he describes it. pregnancy is measured from the last day of the last normal menstrual period as the 19th news or any doctor might point out. the first sign of pregnancy is often missing one's period, a typical menstrual cycle is 28 days or four weeks and a person can't get pregnant until they have ovulated, which generally happens halfway through the cycle. so in reality, a woman has about two weeks, 14 days to decide even if she's the victim of rape or incest. come on. we'll be right back.
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