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ever feel again. >> and capsule touchdown. welcome back, the newest astronauts, audrey powers, william shatner, our customers glen devries and chris boshiuzen. i can't wait to talk to them, what a clean and beautiful flight from the rocket for our astronauts. >> what an absolutely stunning flight. i loved hearing that audio of them on their way back about how the experience was for them. i can't wait to hear their stories. >> you heard william shatner say this is like nothing i've ever experienced before.
>> who has traveled at warp speed and traveled the entire galactic universe. >> our team is preparing landing safety operations and recovery of our astronauts from the crew capsule. we'll be on the ground at the landing site to follow the action in just a bit. maybe even talk to the world's newest astronauts, some absolutely breathtaking stuff. i'll note that you're going to see the recovery team show up very shortly, we actually send them out before the capsule has landed. by now we're very, very good analyzing where the capsule is going to come down, where the winds are. we're going to see the recovery team come out there and, of course, they will also be joined by some of their friends and family to watch as they've merge from the capsule. let's look at our four astronauts there in the texas
desert after having gone up over the carmen line and back. >> hello everyone. i'm kate bolduan. we're beginning with breaking news. just a beautiful sight to see. star trek actor william shatner making history as the oldest person ever to go to space. just over ten minutes ago as we all watched it play out, the 90-year-old and three crew mates blasted off aboard blue origin's "new shepard" rocket which took billionaire jeff bezos into space just in july. the rocket soared up to about three times the speed of sound, reached an altitude of more than 60 miles high, achieving a few beautiful yet brief minutes of weightlessness. then, as we all just saw, landing back to earth once a again, shatner's flight is the sixth flight this year carrying
civilians. there's much more to come as we've seen. let me begin our coverage with cnn's kristin fisher. she's live at the launch site and has been covering all this in texas. we know as we saw with the last flight, there's going to be videos coming out and we're going to see a lot more, but it looked flawless. >> blue origin has to be very, very happy about this mission. it looked flawless. we'll certainly get to hear a bit more about that. we should get some of that video later today of william shatner and the rest of the crew floating around during the precious four minutes of weightlessness. william shatner may be the star of the show today, but that booster return just gave him a run for his money, not the capsule landing, i'm talking about the booster that propelled the capsule into space. if you've never seen one before, and very few people have. up until a few years ago that
was the stuff of science fiction. it's truly incredible to watch this massive booster literally fall out of the sky. just when you think it's going to crash on the desert floor, it sfiers off its thrusters and gently down to a perfect landing after you hear a sonic boom. that was science fiction until just a few years ago. blue origin, spacex made it possible. you have this other science fiction becoming reality, the original captain kirk officially becoming an astronaut, kate. >> absolutely. stick with me, kristin. let me bring in miles o'brien on this. miles, i will say watching that booster, it really wobbles at first. it's unbelievable that it even corrects itself. what are your thoughts in seeing this? >> it's scary to watch and cool, too. this is why they call it rocket science, right?
it's like balancing a broomstick with your finger, with a lot more physics involved. what's so important about this is when you think about all the things we threw away on our way to space, the huge chunks of the apollo, the space shuttle aimed to be reusable, but it was not reusable in a practical way t. solid rocket boosters would be fished out of the water. the orbiter itself had those very fragile tiles on the surface which required a ton of work. owl of that added to the expense. imagine if every time we flew a 737 across the country they threw away the airplane? the likes of bezos and musk --
drives down the cost significantly. that's why those of us in space watching this all happen, this billionaire space race and the famous people going on cheering it on because what it is doing is driving that very technology we're talking about. >> you saw the ground crew running around getting thumbs up from all of them on board. miles, you were talking about just how it's exciting to see, exhilarating to watch. we all -- we can all say that very honestly. it's also exciting to see and just the progress with the technology and what this moons, what this could mean. i'm excited to hear how to describe it. i think it was william shatner's voice we heard when he said unlike anything to describe. you're probably closest thing i can ask, what do you want to hear from them? i can't wait to hear how they describe it. >> it's interesting. it's such a tiny little taste of
sp space. the enterprise is out there for five years, right? he was in space. it was a tiny taste. would bill shatner like to go over to elon musk's shop on spacex. i want to be that 90-year-old. just that he could climb the steps, he gets a vulcan salute. >> the only thing i questioned is he's actually 90 years old. >> maybe not. >> bezos has -- we now have
these two -- i'll call them missions, these two missions with civilians on board. is it clear what was learned from the first to the second and what can be learned from this? >> i think they've got a robust system. they built this relatively safe -- there's a lot of forces at play and the plumbing has to work just right or you can have some real trouble. you have a system there that, number one, it is only going to the very edge of space, to get to orbit is about 15 or 16 times more energy has to be put into the rocket. we're at a different order of malg tude. having said that, it's got a robust system with a crew escape capability. the capsule can separate from the rocket itself when needed. >> miles, i'm going to jump in because i want to listen in.
>> thank you, thank you, that's right. >> again, thank you everybody for joining us live from west texas and our launch site one. our second human flight crew has gone to space and back up over the carmen line, just over 351,000 feet. we're awaiting jeff bezos who is now opening the hatch. >> hello astronauts. looking good. whoo! [ cheers and applause ]
begun. smiles all around. william shatner taking in the moment clearly. >> everybody in the world needs to be -- everybody in the world needs to see -- unbelievable, unbelievable. the little things of weightlessness. to see the blue color go right by and now you're staring into blackness. that's the thing. the covering of blue -- this comforter blue we have around us, oh, that's blue sky. it's like you whip the sheet off of you when you're asleep and
you're looking into black. you look down, there's the blue down there and the black up there. it's just -- there is mother ea earth. is that death? is that the way death is? whoop and it's gone. jesus. it was so moving to me. this experience did something unbelievable. yeah, weightless -- my stomach went up. this is so weird, but not as weird as the covering of blue. it's one thing to say the sky and the thing and the fragile -- what's unknown is this pillow, this soft blue -- the beauty of
that and it's so thin and you're through it in an instance. is it a mile, two miles? but you're going 2,000 miles an hour, whatever the mathematics are. it's a beep and a beep and suddenly you're in the blue and into the black. it's mysterious and galaxies and things. what you see is black and what you see down there is light. that's the difference. not to have this, you have done something. whatever those other guys are doing, what isn't -- i don't know about that. what you have given me is the most profound experience i can imagine. i'm so filled with emotion about
what just happened. it's extraordinary, extraordinary. i hope i can maintain what i feel now. i don't want to lose it. it's so much larger than me and life. it hasn't got anything to do with the little green men and the blue orb. it has to do with the enormity and the quickness and the suddenness of life and death. oh, my god. >> it's so beautiful. >> beautiful, yes. >> i mean your words. it's just amazing. >> i don't know. i can't even begin to express what i -- what i would love to do is to communicate as much as
possible the jeopardy, the moment you see how -- the vulnerability of everything. it's so small -- this air which is keeping us alive is thinner than your skin. it's a sliver, immeasurably small when you think in terms of the universe. it's negligible, this air. mars doesn't have it. it's so thin. to dirty it, that's another whole subject. >> you shoot through it so fast. >> so quickly. >> and then just in blackness.
>> you're in death. >> this is life. >> this is life and that's death. in an instant you go, wow, that's death. that's what i saw. >> that's amazing. that's amazing. i'm overwhelmed. i had no idea. we were talking earlier, yeah, it's going to be different -- whatever that phrase is that you have a different view of things, it doesn't begin to explain, to describe what -- for me, everybody is going to -- and this is now the commercial. everybody -- it would be so important for everybody to have that experience through one means or another. maybe you could put it on 3d and
wear the goggles to have that expe experience. that certainly is a technical possibility. but what you need, also, we're lying there -- i'm thinking one delay after another delay. we're lying there, i was thinking how do i feel? oh, there's something in the engine, they found an anomaly in the engine, we're going to hold a little longer. you're going to hold a little longer. i feel the stomach, the buy ohm and such, i'm thinking i'm a little nervous here. another delay. i'm a little more nervous. by the way, the simulation is -- it's only a simulation. everything else -- >> doesn't capture. >> doesn't capture it.
and besides which, bang, this t thing hits. that wasn't anything like the simulator. what's going to happen? am i going to be able to survive the g forces? am i going to survive it? then i think, good lord, just getting up the bloody gantry. >> oh, my god. what an experience. >> it looked like you had a moment of comradery with your crew mates up there. >> it's like being in battle really. and there is this bonding being in battle. you're also embattled being inside yourself.
>> thank you again everybody for joining us live, our second "new shepard" astronaut crew has made it home. we just heard some wonderful words from william shatner, captain kirk, who finally had the opportunity to go to space. he became -- >> wow, hearing william shatner himself kind of work through the experience he just had was an experience in and of itself. miles, you were listening to this with me. he says i hope i never recover from this. he says it's the most profound experience he can imagine. he was so clearly emotional and moved and just -- he was experiencing everything and we were watching it right there with him. >> it was poetry. it was the lyrics to his next
spoken word song, i imagine. i've been saying tore years and everybody says it's self-serving, that we should send people other than scientists and engineers into space. artists, writers, journalists as well. >> i was thinking the same thing, miles. exactly. >> this is what has been missing are people with few exceptions. astronaut mike collins was a beautiful writer, the apollo 11 astronaut. chris hadfield -- there are a few. that was just over the top and nothing short of poetry. the ever lick way shows bill shatner, at first gobsmacked with words and then once he got started, it was actually beau beautiful and summed it up with the words --
>> the comforter of blue. >> let's stay in this moment. they're being presented with their flight wings right now. let's listen in. >> bill, it's my real honor to pin this on you. i'm very excited about your ability to communicate this. it's so important for so many people. oops, this one bent. >> so am i. >> we have a spare, don't worry. >> that's all right, guys. >> the hardest part of the mission. bill, you're amazing.
>> audrey, you're so deserving. you worked so hard on this program. all your life you've been dreaming of this. >> isn't that true? what a gift. >> sorry. these things are tricky. i have more sympathy for jeff ashby now. poor guy. he had to do it in front of a big crowd. it's just that the nomex is very to tough. >> okay, guys. we have four astronauts before you. [ cheers and applause ].
>> that was absolutely amazing. as jeff said, we've got four astronauts before you. thank you everybody for joining us today for blue origins' second human flight. >> there you have it. there will be much more video to come. let me bring in kristin fisher. do we have kind of the official stats now? we've got the emotion and then the big numbers. how did this all go down? >> i think it's safe to say that william shatner experienced the overview effect, this experience that astronauts talk about when they see planet earth for the first time and how deeply and profoundly it changes them, very clearly william shatner experiencing that. that's what space travel is all about, giving folks like william shatner and everyday folks walking on earth with the chance to experience what william
shatner just did. what he said right there is so profound. he said everybody in the world needs to see it. it was unbelievable. that is at the core of what a lot of these private space flight companies are trying to do like blue origin, trying to get other people to experience this in the hopes that when they come back to planet earth, they'll be able to do things in their lives to make the world a better place. i have to go back through some of these incredible lines that william shatner had. he told jeff bezos, you have given me the most profound experience. i'm so filled with emotion about what just happened, i hope i never recover from this. i don't want to lose it. there are so many people who go into space who are skilled in so many different areas, they're brilliant scientists, mathematicians, engineers, test pilots, doctors. william shatner was just able to put that experience into words
that i don't think i've ever heard any astronaut quite capture that way. i know there's going to be a big debate about are these four crew members, are they now officially astronauts? well, they crossed the carmen l line. you saw the company, blue origin giving them their pins. the company certainly thinks they're astronauts. william shatner during his interview with erica hill earlier this week, he said something profound. maybe you don't call me an astronaut with a capital a. but he believes he's an astronaut with a lower case a, kind of a nod to the fact that there are still professional astronauts and he was really just along for the ride. wow. what a moment and what a neat experience that we got to watch that interaction between jeff bezos who just got to launch his
childhood hero into space and william shatner thinking him for what he described as the most profound and unbelievable experience of his life. that's really saying something for 90-year-old william shatner, one of the most famous actors on the planet, has led one of the most interesting lives out of anybody out there, for him to say this had that impact on him, imagine what you or i might experience if we had the opportunity to go up one day, kate. >> i would hope i would be even a fraction of as articulate and poetic as william shatner has been in the last couple minutes. let me bring in nischelle turner, dear friend and host of" i'm profoundly more interested in this extraordinary human being. what do you think of this? >> first of all, you guys have been talking him as 90 years
old. i think we see this morning he is 90 years young. this is art imitating life in the most beautiful way. the man is a wordsmith and he wrapped up this experience better than anyone could. on star trek, captain kirk would say risk is our business. nothing more true. he released a special tweet when he was up in space. he said i do not know what i may appear to the world, but to myself i seem to have been only like a boy playing on the seashore. he goes on for a little bit, and he ends the tweet by saying the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me with a rocket ship. he was thinking about this in the most poetic way before this mission even happened and then he came down, and to have the words he did was really amazing. we heard him in the middle of the mission say he's never
experienced anything like that before. he said he doesn't want to ever recover from this. i think he will never recover from this. i think he's all the better for this. what a life lived, i was sitting here through that entire mission saying wow, wow, i had no words. it was one of the most beautiful things that i think i've ever seen. you can see how moved and emotional he was. honestly, nischelle, i was struck with how william shatner went into space. the interview he did last week had me on the floor. what is it about this man, the original captain kirk, this
actor that captivated the imagination of generations of people. >> absolutely. he was one of the originators of swag if we're being honest. six decades ago when he was playing captain kirk. he came on our screen as this man of bravado, this man of risk, and that's who we thought he was. then we get to know william shatner. he is this man of hilarity and has these amazing words. it just almost confirmed that hero status we all want to have for him for so long. to see this career span six decades, to see him win grammys, have these spoken word albums. to have morphed from captain kirk into this man, and to have that full circle moment today, it's almost indescribable. he was a trailblazer on television. he was the first to have an
interracial case with my nam namesake, nischelle nichols. now in his real life, to meld back into captain kirk e oh i'm trying to be as astute as him and you just can't. >> what you said totally makes sense. i'm glad one of us is making sense as we've been watching this in awe. >> i was listening to miles and trying to take in everything he was saying because it's definitely an experience, even for us sitting at home watching this. >> miles, you describe this so well. where do you want to take this? what are you thinking about this now? there are two things that are both very real. there's this really beautiful, profound human experience that william shatner has described in a way that no one else has,
miles. there's also then the technical aspect of what does that mean in the grander, greater scheme of things, right? >> all the plumbing worked, all the electronics worked. so what? william shatner just gave the most epic post flight speech ever. i didn't even need the flight. i would have been happy to hear just that. the fight was a great prelude and teed him up for this poetic statement about what occurred in that four-minute period when he was floating around. for him to be able to grasp all of that, take it all in and share it with us in such a beautiful, coherent way, like the lyrics of one of his spoken word songs written out right there, i don't think jeff bezos could even comprehend what he was hearing. >> no. in the middle of it jeff bezos goes and grabs a champagne bottle. i'm like, wait a second, shatner is having a moment.
>> listen to him. he's got something to say. >> i think he was mid the -- he was describing this blue comforter of sky and having it ripped off in the middle of your sleep and then you're in the darkness. he literally says is this death. look at him. i could redo this all over again, miles. >> this is why this is cool, technicalities aside. as more and more people have the ability to do what we just saw which is an innate talent as more and more people have that experience, we're going to understand what this is all about in a really profound way and ultimately, as anybody who has gone to space will tell you, what you focus on is us, earth, home, and we will understand our planet better. i don't want to get too carried away here, but this is actually
how we bring people together. >> i'll take schmaltzy any day. kristin fisher on the ground giving us all the reporting, thank you, guys. i appreciate it. much more to come from us as we continue to see, more videos will be released by blue origin. we'll bring that to you when we get it. also ahead, america's borders with canada and mexico will reopen soon to fully vaccinated travelers. we have details and the real impact of this on so many aspects of our lives next. crepe correctotor lotion... only from gold bond.
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developing this morning, the united states plans to reopen its borders with canada and mexico next month to fully vaccinated visitors it's been 18 months since restrictions have forced them to close at the start of the pandemic, of course. the announcement comes as coronavirus numbers continue to trend in a good direction here in the united states. cnn's priscilla al f riz joins us with more on what this announcement means. >> the u.s. is signaling it's opening back up to business. as you mentioned, after more than 18 months, fully vaccinated foreign visitors will be able to cross land borders in canada and mexico for non-essential reasons. that means visiting friends or family or passing by for tourist. it's going to happen in two
phases. so in early november, the fully vaccinated foreign visitors from canada and mexico will be able to cross the land borders for those non-essential reasons. then in january of 2022, that vaccination requirement is going to apply to essential travel, like cross-border trade which las been able to continue during the pandemic. officials also say they are waiting for a decision by the cdc to determine which vaccines will be accepted, but they said they anticipate that those authorized and approved by the fda and w.h.o. will be accepted. so a big monumental change for those border communities today. kate. >> absolutely. pris priscilla, thank you so much for that. also developing at this hour, consumer prices up more than 5% in september compared to a year ago as suppliers continue to face these big backlogs at america's ports. but there is also some good news this morning for social security
recipients. cnn's matt egan is joining me with more. matt, what are you seeing? >> unfortunately prices are still soaring, sort of like a rocket ship. in september we saw consumer prices jump by 5.4%. that's an acceleration from august. it's tied for the biggest gains since 2008. month over month prices up .4%. both numbers are moving in the wrong direction. if you take out food and energy, which tends to be more vulnerable, core prices were up by a more modest amount, but still significant. of course, americans can't take food and energy out of their budgets and the budgets are getting squeezed by these price spikes. let's look at the notable price gains over the last 12 months starting with gasoline, gasoline up 42%, used cars, 24%, steaks 22%, laundry equipment, eggs, children's footwear all up double digits. used car prices decelerated.
we saw month over month prices declined for apparel, jewelry and also watches. help is on the way for retirees. social securitiy recipients getting their first increase since 1992. advocates for social security fear this increase is not going to go far enough to help senior citizens make ends meet. >> it is so interconnected as you lay out so perfectly, matt. thank you so much for that. that is why this is becoming such a big focus for the biden administration right now, hoping to do something to alleviate the bottlenecks impacting suppliers along the way. president biden set to try to ease some of the delays now along the supply chain like at ports on the west coast, by expanding to round-the-clock operations. cnn's john harwood is live at the white house to explain what does the biden administration, what does the president think they can do here?
>> reporter: kate, the pandemic has upended american life in so many ways, including economic life. it's changed things we want to buy, when we want to buy them. it's changed the ability of manufacturers here and around the world to make those products. it's affected our ability to get those products from the factory site on to store shelves in the united states. you can see that in the backup at ports, not just in los angeles and long beach, but in savannah and other parts of the united states. what the administration has been doing has been rustling a supply chain task force to unkink, uncrimp the difficulties in the supply chain. one of the things that the president will announce or sill brate today is the round-the-clock operations at both long beach and los angeles ports, try to get those containers off the ships to market. secretary of transportation buttigieg. >> when you see the pictures of
ships at anchor, that means the ships are already there. so it's everything after that that we have to work to unclog. it's there not being spaces at the berths, it's the containers being backed up. that goes through the supply chain, through the rails, through the trucks, again, all the way to the store shelf. >> reporter: kate, because all of this is contributing to the inflation that matt egan talked about, they're working across government departments, the agriculture department trying to expand poultry processing to meet demand. the commerce trying to unkink supply chains for semiconductors so more cars can be built. the biden administration is motivated right now to do everything they can. >> i have to say with the ports, i'm just surprised that they haven't already been operating at 24/7 capacity. that was a sur prizing thing to learn today. good to see you, john. thank you very much. coming up for us, the nfl players association calling on the league now to make public
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with racist and misogynistic e-mails he wrote over years' time. the players association wants to see these e-mails and documents. how important do you think that is? >> i think it's very important because it broadens the scope of the initial investigation that was underway through the washington football team because of their culture of mysogeny and sexism that a lot of women had come forth and told their stories. these stories that are popping up, just branching out from that initial investigation, i think it will broaden the scope and it will really prove and show, like, what the nfl culture actually is. being a former nfl player. i played for ten years. i played for a number of different teams. there were a number of locker rooms where you had coaches, players that felt similar to jon
gruden. maybe not as express sieive as but it's definitely there. on the flip side, there were guys who felt the opposite way and feel the opposite way. releasing these e-mails, i think, will just be really big for transparency, but there are 650,000 e-mails, according to the "wall street journal," so i'm not sure they're going to release them at all. >> you don't want to paint up the entire league, every team, every coach with the same brush, of course, but you've acted with gruden as a prospective player aplayer. were you sprurprised by this? >> i was. all the contact i had with gruden as someone in the nfl, someone who played offensive guru and he was coach at the university of tennessee where i
went to school, all of these things led me to have a natural respect for him. it's unfortunate that these things -- these e-mails were released because it wasn't -- you know, it wasn't a one-off situation, it wasn't an isolated incident. that these show a pattern of behavior and mentality over the course of seven years. who knows what else are in those e-mails. it really was, for me, personally upsetting and i know a lot of people close to jon are also very upset and disappointed in him. i really want to make the point, too, that, unfortunately, you know, in the past 10, 20 years, i was drafted in 2002 and the league has changed a lot. we still have a long way to go, the nfl still has a very long way to go, but there are now women who are officiating, there are women that are pro scouts, there are women that have really entered themselves in this game, and the nfl are trying to broaden and widen that net.
but when things like this happen, it just sets the nfl back two steps when they take one step forward. >> like you point out, there have been progresses. you've seen it. you've talked very openly about your progress, your evolution on these issues. roger goodell was actually one of the targets of gruden's commentary, his gross commentary in some of these documents released, according to the "new york times." do you want to hear directly from roger goodell on this? what do you think that would do? >> yeah, i'd like to hear from roger. i'd like to know how he feels. i'd like to know what he thinks about gruden's comments and what that means for the nfl and just the type of platform that the nfl is afforded as, you know -- i'm obviously biased, but the greatest game in america. we have a responsibility to the public, we have a responsibility to the rest of the players in the league and to our fans to
show that this is not tolerated and this is not accepted. but, unfortunately, i'm pretty sure i heard that -- or read somewhere that the raiders' owner was privy to all of these e-mails, even the ones that were released later in the week or the next week. he was privy to all these things, and i think that just the fact that, you know, that mark davis, the raven raiders' was not moved initially to make some kind of statement to penalize jon gruden for this until the "new york times" report came out that showed not only the racist comments but the m mysogeny, the anti-gay slurs. the nfl keeps trying to make progress but they keep getting pushed back. we'll see what happens in the future. >> like they say, sunshine is the greatest disinfectant, and
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hello and welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king in washington. we have a packed day ahead. president biden and the challenge of selling his ambitious agenda. most democrats still favor going bold, but even within the president's party, there are doubts his plan will make things much better. plus, subpoena showdown. the committee investigating the insurrection now faces a credibility test as it responds to trump allies who refuse to cooperate. and beam me up. jeff bezos, "star trek's"