Skip to main content

tv   Inside Politics With John King  CNN  October 21, 2021 9:00am-10:00am PDT

9:00 am
as the top criteria in states you'll force states to actually look at how to make closer elections. >> a girl can dream that this could actually be solved. i will continue to try. thank you both. really appreciate it. thanks for being here, everybody. "inside politics" with john king begins now. >> hello and welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king in washington. thank you for sharing your day with us. tonight president biden gets a big opportunity and a big test, a live cnn town hall to sell his agenda. today the house speaker says democrats are moving closer to a deal. >> we're making great progress to our goal of securing a framework agreement for build back better in a timely fashion. although it's a smaller bill, it's still historic. >> plus,est day green light
9:01 am
mixing and matching your covid vaccines. experts also now tracking a new delta variant spinoff, but so far they see no reason for alarm. and virginia's terry mcauliffe gets a little help from his friends. tonight vice president harris tries to rally the democratic base. saturday former president obama hits the trail, this as the polls show that governor's race in virginia neck and neck. we begin though with the president. tonight he'll step up his efforts to sell his sweeping agenda directly to you, the american people, taking questions from voters at a cnn town hall live in baltimore. it is a fascinating and consequential moment. it is hard to sell a package that is still tbd because of big differences in the democratic family so as the president tells the voters asking the questions and those of you watching at home he'll also be trying to sell his favorite pieces of the plan and persuade democratic lawmakers it is time to make the tough decisions needed to make a deal. the president's first year scorecard and his long-term legacy hang in the balance. so do the narrow democratic majorities in the house and the
9:02 am
senate and perhaps that big governor's race in virginia that will be settled 12 days from now. everyone in the negotiations, you heard the speaker at the top of the program. everyone sees things are closer. everyone also says there are giant issues, among them getting a key moderate senator on board with how to pay for $1 about 5 trillion to $1.9 trillion in new spending. let's begin with our senior white house correspondent phil mattingly. the president trying to sell the bill and also his own party. >> reporter: no question about it. one of the things the president said yesterday when he went to scranton to real support for this legislation was making point that he believes that people are now understanding the stakes here, the stakes of this domestic agenda. that wasn't to the american public. that was lawmakers. that's been a big pitch and a big shift that we've seen in democrats on capitol hill, at least that i've been speaking to, over the course of the last several days. part of the reason there's very real momentum. it's true that they are closer to an agreement they have ever been is because people are willing to let go some of their critical issues or the duration of them, the full scale of them
9:03 am
in order to reach a deal because they understand the significance. one of those people appears to be senator joe manchin. now, we know there are two moderate senators, the biden administration and the president himself have been working behind the scenes tirelessly at a granular level for the better part of the last two or three weeks, trying to narrow down their differences. take a look at senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinema, not monolithic. each raised different issues, manchin the child tax credit and the expangs of medicare and climate provisions he's had major issues with. a lot of them have already been addressed if you listen to what has been addressed. climate is still very much a negotiation that's under way, but a lot of senator manchin's issues have been addressed, are being addressed, and that's why the white house over here with advisers here as well as people on capitol hill feel like senator manchin is on track to eventually come to an agreement. senator sinema is a different story, been in intense
9:04 am
negotiations with white house staff, not so much on capitol hill, very much focused with the white house and it's been a bit of a roller coaster trying to figure out where she is, what she wants. one thing that's exceedingly clear she is opposed to any rate increases in the corporate tax rate. that's a central component of the revenue piece of this bill, also has issued with some of the individual tax rates as well. speaker nancy pelosi responding to our colleague manu raju saying it's possible that this package will not include either of those, those are central pieces and they have to figure out a way to get her to yes or close to yes and as you know, john, when staffers get creative they come up with solutions but the question is how fast? >> your notes are fascinating every morning. you solve one problem and it somehow kicks another. thanks for kicking things off. >> joining me is cnn's dana bash and olivia knox. senator smarks one democratic
9:05 am
senator, but just about every democrat who wan in 2018 and all the democrats who rap for president in 2020 said we need to repeal the grossly unfair trump tax cut on the rich, rich people, corporations got the huge benefit, we are going to repeal it and now the president of the united states trying to get his agenda passed and is apparently willing to say because of one senator let's find another way. >> because it looks like he might not have another choice. it was so telling what the speaker said and phil just alluded to manu raju just an hour ago, not saying no, we're going to make shoure that the corporate tax rates, we restructure them, and one of the biggest applause lines in any democratic rally no matter who was giving it and she didn't say that because they need to find a way to get to yes, and the fact that kyrsten sinema, just like every democrat in the senate if they choose to use them holds a
9:06 am
lot of leverage, but she's using her leverage here. i have to say i -- i was with an arizona republican yesterday who kind of said in a not joking way but joking way, you know who the best republican we have out in arizona is, kyrsten sinema, because they feel like she is doing the bidding for them in a way that they never expected watching her path starting as a progressive in the state. >> we're going to talk more about that later in the program, about her politics back home, but in terms of the politics here, the president is going to address the american people tonight. it's hard to sell your plan when so much of your plan is still tbd but the president wants to say we note basics. we'll have universal pre-k. how long it lasts that's to be determined. community college scholarships, money for housing, medicare expansion, obamacare subsidies, but because one of the challenges for the president is the debate has been about the price tag because until you get to that it's hard to know,
9:07 am
olivier, exactly what pieces you get. >> i would throw in rural broadband which is wildly popular. one thing about the tax question it makes the bill more popular. when you poll, here's what you've got, that list of policies, one level of popularity and also if you say this is going to be paid for by raising taxes and on corporations the thing gets more popular. it's difficult to sell because the size and scope and specificity of the plan sun clear. democrats have been frustrated this week with biden on two fronts. one is his involvement in the negotiations and saying what he wants. that's turned a corner now. he's being a lot more specific behind the scenes about what he wants to see in this thing and then in the sales pitch. one of the reasons that the afghanistan withdrawal was bad for president biden politically is it coincided almost exactly when he and cabinet officials were going to fan out across the country to start to build momentum behind this legislation and it meant that they couldn't and it meant in particular he couldn't so what you're seeing now is this delayed ramp-up in
9:08 am
the sales pitch and we'll see if it works. >> a new take, if you will, almost a take two or take three and because of the unfortunate timing, political timing, which is why it's interesting to listen to the president, if you talk to people with him during the campaign, joe biden lost iowa and nevada, didn't do well in new hampshire and everyone said joe biden is done. the president yesterday in scranton said i've been here before. now this is my agenda. i'll fix it. >> this has been declared dead on arivaled since the moment i introduced but i think we'll fix it because people are beginning to figure out what's at stake. it's about leading the world or let the world pass us bit. by the way, they will not increase one single penny to the dev tut. fully paid for. >> it is. he has been written off many, many years in his career and over recent years so he has an optimism that he'll get there in the end. there are democrats even if you do it's been pretty messy along
9:09 am
the way. >> absolutely, john. he has to put the best spin as he can on this, but it is a huge disappointment, and i think that we should note that it is constantly progressives who are asked to make these concessions. they are always the ones at the end of the day who are getting the short end of the stick here. when this is all said and done and this is whittled done, the moderates of the party, both senator manchin and senator sinema and the moderates who we don't talk about who are hiding behind them, they will have won, but progressives will have had to swallow another loss here, and it is president biden and moderates who will ask them to go back to their constituencies and support moderates that they don't -- that they don't largely want to support and yet -- and yet they are often -- they are often in this position where they -- where they have to make these concessions. >> although that's certainly the way some progressives are going to see it, definitely the activists. you asked somebody like joe manchin, you asked joe manchin,
9:10 am
he will say came from zero, zero dollars to at least $1.5 trillion. that's a huge leap and did it to compromise with progressives so, you know, because the focus has been so much about the sausage-making, the forest has been a little bit lost through the trees and that's what the president's challenge is tonight. >> it's a complicated democratic family. it just is. joe manchin comes from a very different place than the progressives. david koran wrote a story in "mother jones" saying manchin said i might leave this democratic party and i'd walk away and become an independent and then he was quoted as saying it's bullshit, excuse me language and today he's saying, no, it actually wasn't. >> if i'm an embarrassment to my -- my democrat colleagues, my caucus, the president being the leader of the democratic party, chuck schumer and all offed them
9:11 am
and i said me being a moderate centrist democrat, if that causes you a problem, let me know and i'd switch to be an independent by i'd still be caucusing with democrats. >> therapy in public, a serious threat, what have we got here? >> i think it's always a serious threat when you're clinging to this razor thin majority. there was a couple days ago, not that twitter is real life, but a couple days ago the name jeffords was trending, the vermont senator who actually did, you know, switch parties and tipped control of the senate to the democrats. you hear some progressives loudly saying he's not a centrist, he's not a moderate, he's a conservative and what the heck is he doing in this party and if push comes to shove, they don't want him to go anywhere. they want him to stay there. they don't have 57 democrats in this chamber. >> right. >> and so they need him. >> they need him. >> i've got to that. twitter is not real life. >> it turns out. >> do you have a second source? >> yes, twitter.
9:12 am
>> we're going to hear from president biden tonight that at a very important cnn town hall in baltimore, a cnn exclusive. president taking your questions. asoap cooper is the moderator. cnn's town hall tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern. next, crime and punishment, the attorney general facing questions on capitol hill right now about the prosecution of the january 6th rioters, that as the full house prepares to vote tonight to recommend criminal contempt charges against trump ally steve bannon.
9:13 am
[birds chirping] [clapping] [beep to indicate recording has started] ♪i like it like♪ ♪i (hey)♪ ♪i li-♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i like it, i love it, i want some more of it♪ ♪i try so hard, i can't rise above it♪
9:14 am
♪don't know what it is 'bout that little gal's lovin'♪ ♪but i like it, i love it♪ applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. paul loves food. but his diabetes made food a mystery. everything felt like a "no". but then paul went from no to know. with freestyle libre 2, now he knows how food affects his glucose. and he knows when to make different choices. take the mystery out of your glucose levels, and lower your a1c. now you know. try it for free. visit i've spent centuries evolving with the world. that's the nature of being the economy. observing investors choose assets to balance risk and reward. with one element securing portfolios, time after time. gold. agile and liquid. a proven protector. an ever-evolving enabler of bold decisions.
9:15 am
an asset more relevant than ever before. gold. your strategic advantage. we're carvana, the company who invented car vending machines and buying a car 100% online. now we've created a brand-new way for you to sell your car. whether it's a year old or a few years old. we wanna buy your car. so go to carvana and enter your license plate answer a few questions. and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds. when you're ready, we'll come to you, pay you on the spot and pick up your car, that's it. so ditch the old way of selling your car, and say hello to the new way at carvana. new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates, whose resumes on indeed match your job criteria. visit and get started today. as someone who resembles someone else... i appreciate that liberty mutual knows everyone's unique.
9:16 am
that's why they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. oh, yeah. that's the spot. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ - [narrator] at southern new hampshire university, we're committed to making college more accessible by making it more affordable. that's why we're keeping our tuition the same for all online and campus programs through the year 2022. - i knew snhu was the place for me when i saw how affordable it was, i ran to my husband with my computer and i said, "look, we can do this." - [narrator] take advantage of some of the lowest online tuition rates in the nation. find your degree at let me show you some pictures. this is just moments ago. the president and vice president of the united states arriving at a really spectacular someplace. this is the martin luther king memorial here in washington, d.c. it was dedicated ten years ago,
9:17 am
ten years ago. the ceremonies day sell operating the anniversary of the remarkable monument and memorial. we'll take you there live for the president's remarks a bit later. let's just stay with it as they walk in to get a glimpse. if you've never visited, it's truly one of the spectacular places in this town and you should visit it. back to that as soon as news develop. later today the house votes on a very important matter, trump referral for steve bannon. right now a contentious hearing is under way with attorney general-maker garland, democrats trying to extract a promise from the attorney general that he will see through that charge prosecute bannon. >> they will expeditiously consider the referrals put forward by the select committee. >> the department of justice will do what it always does in such circumstances. it will apply the facts and the law and make a decision consistent with the principles of prosecution. >> panel is back with us. also joining the conversation
9:18 am
our legal analyst, former federal prosecutor elliott williams. i suspect you would have given the same exact answer. the attorney general has to be careful. >> yeah. >> democrats are saying steve bannon just flipped a bird at the united states congress and we want him held accountable. >> and maybe he did, but there's one correct answer to that. the justice department will make an independent judgment on this. look. this case does not exist yet. it would grossly inappropriate for an attorney general to start opining and weighing in on something that number one congress hasn't even voted on and number two hasn't sent to his desk yet so why should we be out there saying we should lock this guy up, it's absolutely inappropriate. >> it gets to number one, will this january 6th investigative committee which is critically important get to the truth? who organized it? who came with the intent to commit violent and what did the president and those closest to him know about it? you heard adam kinzinger, i know to donald trump a rino, to
9:19 am
others a member of the armed services and somebody trying to get to the truth saying please, please, general. >> i think it's certainly the case particularly if you see real movement in the justice department so after tomorrow it will be out of our hands. i hope the attorney general does the right thing. i hope the justice department does the right things. >> again, can you hope in the here and now and look at the history of the trumpism piece. the don mcguan case taking two years to make its way through the courts. the question is will congress prove that if you say you must comply you must comply. >> they are determined, to but to elliott's point, the best way for them to do that is to keep it as separate from politics. i know that sounds like a silly thing to say in the context of what we're talking about, separate from it as possible meaning go through the proper procedures and the proper procedures are the full house vote which will be later this afternoon and then they will refer it and then it will be up
9:20 am
to them. but because we're so used to in the last five years presidents to'ing and fro'ing will i or won't you, will people go for subpoenas or not, the notion of holding somebody like steve bannon in contempt of congress is rare, is very rare, and the reason is because people like steve bannon used to, people who were associated with presidents and others, understand and respect the confines or at least the construct of what the constitution says which is congress wants to talk to you, you should go talk because that's your duty. >> and yet in the current environment even members of congress say oh, wait a minute, the ones not in power right now, we'll see if they got power back, might have a different back and one of the reasons the ban thon thing is know important, what were his conversations with the then president of the united states and when were his conversations with people around trump and with the organizers of the rally? someone else who has critical
9:21 am
information is congressman jim jordan, a trump ally who still serves in the house. he could still be a witness. congress could ask him and you're laughing at me already and subpoena him, if necessary, would jim jordan tell the truth. well, listen. >> did you talk to the former president before after. >> of course i've talked to the president. i've been clear about that. i talk to him all the day. i've been clear about that. i don't recall the times. >> was it before, during or after the attack -- >> i talked to the president after the attack. >> so not before or during. >> right. >> and you -- >> i've been clear about that. >> more clear about it there than maybe in the past, but the actual question is what did you talk about, not just that did you talk? >> yeah. >> first you've got to establish that they did talk and then the timing of the conversation and then you move on to the substance stuff.
9:22 am
those answers is why i was grining about this because what congressman jordan is saying he does not recall the number of times he spoke to the president on a day when hundreds of the president's supporters stormed and ransacked the capitol and disrupted the certification of an election. was it ten? at what point how many times do you forgot you spoke to the president under those circumstances. that's why i was -- >> that's why you subpoena records because you can look at the record of this and find out how many times you talked to somebody and how long the conversations were and then you put in the person in the chair and say tell me what they are about but you first have to respect institution and cooperate before you can get to that and mr. jordan does not now. if he's in power i expect he'll have a different view of congressional subpoenas and cooperation. coming up, covid boosters and who is eligible. cdc experts immediate today to decide whether to meet together to see who received the modernr
9:23 am
and who o had the johnson & johnson vaccines. ever wonder how san francisco became the greenest big city in america? just ask the employee owners of recology. we built the recycling system from the ground up, helping san francisco become the first city in the country to have a universal recycling and composting program for residents and businesses. but it all starts with you. let's keep making a differene together.
9:24 am
hearing is important to living life to the fullest. that's why inside every miracle-ear store, you'll find a better life. it all starts with the most innovative technology. like the new miracle-earmini, available exclusively at miracle-ear. so small that no one will see it, but you'll notice the difference. and now, miracle-ear is offering a thirty-day risk-free trial. you can experience better hearing with no obligation. call 1-800-miracle right now and experience a better life.
9:25 am
going to tell you about exciting medicare advantage plans that can provide broad coverage, and still may save you money on monthly premiums and prescription drugs. with original medicare, you're covered for hospital stays and doctor office visits. but you have to meet a deductible for each, and then you're still responsible for 20% of the cost. next, let's look at a medicare supplement plan. as you can see, they cover the same things as original medicare, and they also cover your medicare deductibles and co-insurance. but, they often have higher monthly premiums and no prescription drug coverage. now, let's take a look at humana's medicare advantage plans. with a humana medicare advantage plan, hospital stays, doctor office visits and your original medicare deductibles are covered. and of course, most humana medicare advantage plans include prescription drug coverage. in fact, in 2020
9:26 am
humana medicare advantage prescription drug plan members saved an estimated $8,400 on average on their prescription costs. most humana medicare advantage plans include a silversneakers fitness program at no extra cost. dental, vision and hearing coverage is included with most humana medicare advantage plans and, you get telehealth coverage with a $0 copay. you get all this for as low as a $0 monthly plan premium in many areas. and your doctor and hospital may already be a part of humana's large network. if you want the facts, call right now for the free decision guide from humana. there is no obligation, so call the number on your screen right now to see if your doctor is in our network, to find out if you can save on your prescriptions, and to get our free decision guide. humana, a more human way to healthcare.
9:27 am
today cdc advisers will vote on recommending moderna and johnson & johnson coronavirus boo booster shots. they will also take up the mix-and-match approach for boosters. this is a three-step process. the fda yesterday gave its approval to the new booster plan and if the cdc advisers sign off today as expected today then
9:28 am
dr. walensky will get to make the final decision. dr. rainey, grateful for your time. what we expect to happen here is the cdc to support the fda saying you should get a half doves moderna six months after your second dose if you're 65 or older or if you received moderna and you're at high risk and if you got the j&j vaccine and they think you should mix and match, if you got j&j last time it's okay to mix and match. what's the significance of this? >> took big takeaways. the 14 million recipients of the one dose of the j&j vaccine have been largely left out of the discussion about vaccine efficacy and vaccine boosters despite the fact that we know that j&j at this point is not quite as strong as the moderna
9:29 am
and pfizer vaccines, so it's really important for those folks who showed up and got the one shot. the other really exciting thing about this news is that mix and match strategy which many of us in public health and medicine have been advocating for for months. there's great preliminary data from the uk on how well it works. i think that this is going to be our math forward. it's going to pave the way for how we handle vaccines against covid throughout the rest of the pandemic, and i'm real excited to seat fda approving that and the cdc moving forward. >> still the huge issue of those who are unvaccinated and the wish that they would get vaccinated to help those with protection. i still want to show that more than 11 million people eligible for boosters have gotten them. half a million alone between monday and tuesday. yesterday was 334,000. how important is that? i guess people are already vaccinated but getting extra protection as we head into the winter. >> so this is the big discussion, right, and the fda
9:30 am
had some really serious debate yesterday. the cdc is currently discussing it. a few weeks ago when we approved the pfizer boosters, this is the thing. it is it is the first doses that matter the most for community spread, for hospitalizations and for death. listen, i'm in one of the high-risk groups. i'm a health care worker. i've not yet gotten my booster because in my day-to-day life when i'm outside of the hospital with an n-95 on i'm pretty safe and if i don't get a booster right away it's not going to mean i end up in the hospital. age 65 plus get the darn booster, if you're immunosuppressed as you've discussed here, it's critically important to get that booster because the vaccine may not work as well but in general it's not the boosters that will make the difference, it's the first dose of vaccine. >> in terms of the case count, it's heading down. we're down 45%. the average daily new infections, we're down 45% from just a month ago, below 80,000
9:31 am
which is welcome. you hear overseas and now this is dr. walensky, this discussion that, yes, doctors are now seeing, experts are seeing a new spinoff of the delta variant. listen. >> the ay-4.2 variant has drawn recent attention. this is a sublineage of the delta variant that has been recently identified in the uk and we have, on occasion identified the sublineage here in the united states but not with recent increased frequency or clustering to date. >> now having -- we've all lived lieu this. this case spike, a lot of it is attributable to the delta variant. the experts say far saying they see nothing of overconcern, nothing to worry about too much whether it's more nasty or more transmissible. is that what the data tell us? >> you know, this isn't a variant yet of concern according to the world health organization. it's one of 50 odd new variants
9:32 am
that have been identified since the delta variant took hold. there are more recent feasts. you know, with we're seeing case spikes and continued high rates of hospitalizations in the uk that they are attributing largely to the new variant but for now time will tell. we're watching it closely, but to put a point on it, john, this is why the vaccines with so important. as long as there are large groups of the population, either at home or abroad who are unvaccinated, we're going to keep seeing more variants, and it's a matter of time until we get one that's worse. it may not be this one, but there will be one in the future, so vaccines are our best way to prevent that. >> amen. >> dr. rainey as always, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> up next for us, power and it risks. senator kyrsten sinema won't go along with some of the democratic party's biggest promises. new cnn reporting to share on a potential challenge back home, and in just a few hours president biden will take the stage right there in baltimore for a cnn town hall. it pairs to the at 8:00 p.m.
9:33 am
eastern only here on cnn. ever wonder how san francisco became the greenest big city in america? just ask the employee owners of recology. we built the recycling system from the ground up, helping san francisco become the first city in the country to have a universal recycling and composting program
9:34 am
for residents and businesses. but it all starts with you. let's keep making a differene together. your mission: stand up to moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. and take. it. on... with rinvoq. rinvoq a once-daily pill can dramatically improve symptoms...
9:35 am
rinvoq helps tame pain, stiffness, swelling. and for some, rinvoq can even significantly reduce ra fatigue. that's rinvoq relief. with ra, your overactive immune system attacks your joints. rinvoq regulates it to help stop the attack. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious infections and blood clots, sometimes fatal, have occurred as have certain cancers, including lymphoma, and tears in the stomach or intestines, and changes in lab results. your doctor should monitor your bloodwork. tell your doctor about any infections... and if you are or may become pregnant while taking rinvoq. take on ra. talk to your rheumatologist about rinvoq relief. rinvoq. make it your mission. learn how abbvie could help you save on rinvoq. i'm still drawn to what's next. even with higher stroke risk due to afib not caused by a heart valve problem. so if there's a better treatment than warfarin that's a trail i want to take. eliquis.
9:36 am
eliquis reduces stroke risk better than warfarin. and has less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis has both. don't stop taking eliquis without talking to your doctor as this may increase your risk of stroke. eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. don't take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. while taking, you may bruise more easily or take longer for bleeding to stop. get help right away for unexpected bleeding, or unusual bruising. it may increase your bleeding risk if you take certain medicines. tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures. the number one cardiologist-prescribed blood thinner. ask your doctor about eliquis.
9:37 am
senator kearsin sinema is experiencing both the perks and pitfalls of power today. without her vote the biden agenda cannot pass the senate so the president has her on speed dial, and the white house keeps rewriting its social safety net plan to accommodate the senator's views but it's a big
9:38 am
but, more and more liberals are losing patience with the arizona democrat. cnn's manu raju puts this way. sinema is at the zenith of her power in washington but how she's handled her growing power in the 50-50 senate has also cost her something else, support from the left in arizona with progressives warning she's now at risk of becoming a political pariah and is potentially vulnerable in a 2024 democratic primary battle. manu raju joins us live from capitol hill with more. prominence brings friends but also potential enemies. >> yeah. no question about it, and one of the reasons why you're hearing so many concerns from democrats on the record, from liberals in particular is because of the way she's carried out these talks. she's made her concerns known directly to the white house, the senate majority leader chuck schumer and that's pretty much it, and things are sort inform a black box for most democrats and as they are seeing the reports of how they are built, there's a push to expand the social safety net is just getting chipped away by one provision after the other
9:39 am
and in part because of sinema's opposition, and there's concern -- there's potential warnings from progressives that she could be vulnerable in a 2024 primary challenge. one congressman, rubin gallego, has been talked about for some time as a possible primary challenger. i talked to him about the prospect of challenging sinema in 2024, and he told me i think the sentiment that i'm hearing out there, voters in arizona are upset with her, especially democratic voters, and i asked him, well, are you open to possibly challenging her in 2024? he said for me all i care about is what happens between now and 2022, pointedly not ruling that out. now he's not the only one in the delegation that has raised greens. others have a, quote, responsibility to divulge where she stands. voters need to hear that and there's a reckoning if the bill comes back and not meeting the demands that the party
9:40 am
campaigned on. several key issues she's concerned about, we've reported and how corporate taxes, individual income rate taxes, she said she's not going to move forward on that. that's forced democrats to scramble for a new way to fund this plan and she's talked about scrapping free community college and that's why president joe biden says that that will be dropped from the package. and she along with some other moderates have been concerned about negotiating for drug prices. that's likely not to make the final package as well so there's a whole range of issue, price tag from some of the provisions that have angered folks but the way she's handled it, not to mention her opposition to inning chaing the senate filibuster ruszala, time and time again democrats calling for them to change those things but she's not going to change the institution.
9:41 am
she's got power but she could also have political problems. >> appreciate the great new reporting. let's bring it back nat room to discuss with the panel. listen to what he said. government negotiates prescription drugs, reversing the trump tax cuts, a giant piece of the party platform and you have this senator who says no. >> when it's all said and done what's going to be left? and i think it's really important to center the voices of the people in her state who are just i would say beyond disappointed, just deflated, and senator? i think if she continues to oppose so many of president biden's domestic policy agenda, she has to be out front and really explain for this, not only to the democratic kkd but to her constituents. >> and she -- you know, look, that's the old john mccain seat. views herself like mccain who is a maverick an does not follow lock step in the party label. man urkts just noted a potential primary challenge and cnn has
9:42 am
five military veterans who are part of an advisory have resigned saying she's answering to big donors rather than to your people. we shouldn't have to buy representation from you and your failure to stand by your people and see their urgent needs is alarming. you can be a maverick, you can be different and steadfast and stubborn. if you want to win the next election you need to watch your base. >> and that is one of the biggest criticisms of kyrsten sinema beyond the fact that she's secretive, that she's hard to pin down and so forth. it's that the criticism that you're hearing loud and clear from progressives, you're alluding to this, is she's bought and paid for by her big donors and that's why she doesn't want to change the way that regular americans pay for their prescription drugs. that's why she doesn't want to change the fact that corporations don't pay high enough taxes from the point of view of many democrats, and what is even more galling from the
9:43 am
perspective the progressives is she used to be one of them. she started out in political life at the statehouse on the local level as very, very progressive. if you put that in contrast with somebody like joe manchin who has always represented a conservative state, and now it's very, very conservative, but he's always been in that point of view and always said on the campaign trail for decade, even when he was governor, i don't want the government to work for you, i want to be your partner. that's not the sentiment of senator sinema. >> she just barely won flat election, 50% to 4% over martha mcsale. if you're senator sinema, my race was real close. mark kelly won last year and some say she should be more confident about her base. richie torres says there's a intelligence which we no longer live in a democracy. we live under the tierny of
9:44 am
senator sinema and there's a lack of clarity on where she stand, a member of her own family, tierny. >> yeah, that's a lot. you brought up mccain which is a pretty instructive example. maybe you remember john mccain from voting against unraveling obamacare, but people here at this table are also familiar with john mccain on the campaign trail when he was facing challenges from the right. can you go find it now online, build the dang fence ad. john mccain would tack sharply rightwards in the primaries, not recognizable as the john mccain inside the beltway when he did so. this is interesting because the big question is yes, she's vulnerable to a primary challenge. what is she going to sound like on the trail? i don't think it's going to be a lot of i stopped medicare from lowering drug prices and i kept corporate tax rates low. i don't think that's going to be
9:45 am
the message. >> that's the thing. she doesn't sound like anything now. she's not only talking to national media. not talking to local media or anybody publicly. she's inscrutable. >> we're still in the trying to make a deal chapter. if there is a deal we'll see what the next chapter is. if there isn't a deal she will take a lot of heat from her own party. stay with me. you can see the pictures of vice president harris speaking. this is the tenth anniversary celebration of the martin luther king memorial and then she heads to virginia where the governor's race is tighter than tight.
9:46 am
at fidelity, your dedicated advisor will work with you on a comprehensive wealth plan across your full financial picture. a plan with tax-smart investing strategies designed to help you keep more of what you earn. this is the planning effect.
9:47 am
9:48 am
9:49 am
you have the best pizza in town and the worst wait times. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit as a dj, i know all about customization. that's why i love liberty mutual. they customize my car insurance, so i only pay for what i need. how about a throwback? ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪
9:50 am
take you live now. the vice president of the united states speaking. let's listen. >> after all, we remember dr. king was only 39 years old when he died. and yet they knew their power. they knew that there is real power when your cause is just. [ applause ] and they used then that power to push democrats and republicans to pass that landmark bill. so today as a nation we must some monour own power.
9:51 am
as leaders we must leverage our own power, and we all have a role to play, and the president and i are clear on ours. we are and must be unwavering in this fight, and we must use our voice to call out any effort to obstruct justice. and can a toll for justice everywhere. >> remember, and dr. king knew this. america is not defined by her perfection. america is defined by our commitment to perfecting, and in our nation that will forever be the work forward, as dr. king did, we must keep believing a
9:52 am
better future is possible and as do king did we must keep pushing towards that future, so as i have the great honor of introducing our president but me end today by recognizing the impact that this memorial has had. for ten years, think about it, for a decade visitors from all over the world have come to this very place, the words that are etched in these walls now etched in their hearts and on their smartphones, the history that is told here. >> because of this place is now part of their own, and i know that when they leave here they
9:53 am
do so determined to do their part to build a better future so on behalf of our nation. on behalf of our world thank you all for making this memorial possible, and now it's my great and distinction honor to introduce a phenomenal leader who was here when this memorial was first unveiled, a leader who i know because i see it every day draws so much inspiration and reminds so many of the work and the words of dr. king. our president of the united states, joe biden. [ applause ] kws. >> thank you, kamala. thank you all so very much.
9:54 am
>> mr. president -- [ laughter ] >> thank you for your stewardship. you know, here in the heart of the capital of the united states of america the tensions and the heat of the nation are vividly on display. dr. king stands determined and brave looking out to the promises land. across the tidal basin stands another giant of our history, thomas jefferson whose words declared the very idea of america that we're all created equal, ento you by our creator with certain inail nabil rights and all deserved to be treated equally to. state the obvious, no one knows it better than this one, we've never lived up to that idea, but we've never walked away from it fully. we've never walked away.
9:55 am
in his sermon to the march in washington, dr. king called on all america to live up to the full meaning and promise of our declaration of independence, and so we stand here in perpetuity, in timely and timeless conversation that inspires us and challenges us, reminds us how far we've come, where we need to go and how far -- how much longer the journey is. it's a conversation that shapes our days and that we must carry forward. mad a.m. vice president, madam speaker, the chair of the black caucus, congressional black caucus members and members of faith and community, windchill distinguished guests, from here he see the ongoing push and pull
9:56 am
between progress and struggle over the self-evident truths of our dem and in our nation we now face anfrequention point and the battle literally for the soul of america and it's up for us together to choose who we want to be and what we want to be. i know -- i know the progress does not come fast enough. it never has, and the process of governing is frustrating and sometimes dispiriting, but i also know what's possible. if we keep the pressure up, if we never give up, if we keep the faith, we're at an infliction point, maybe i've overused that phrase but it is an infliction point in american history and delivering on economic justice, the dignity of work that dr. king was in memphis in
9:57 am
april, helping sanitation workers for better pay and better working conditions and to be granted human dignity as human beings and for much too long we've allowed a narrow and cramped view of the promise of america, a view that america is a zero sum game, particularly in the recent past. if you succeed, i fail. if you get ahead i fall behind and maybe worst of all if i can hold you down i lift myself up instead of what it should be, and it's self-evident. if you do well, we all do well. that's keeping the promise of america. i've never seen a time when working folks did well that the wealthy didn't do very well. look, it's a core of our administration's economic vision and it's a fundamental paradigm
9:58 am
shift for this nation. for the first time in a couple of generations we're going to be investing in the working families, putting them first and helping them get ahead rather than the wealthy and the biggest and most powerful people out there. we're investing in black families with rescue checks and tax cuts that will reduce black poverty by 34%. black child poverty by more than 50%. this year. and we're aggressively with the leadership of some of the people that i'm looking at right now combating housing discrimination to create a generation of wealth. how did every other person make it to the middle class from a working class circumstance? just like my dad did, build equity in a house, granted it was small, grant it had wasn't much, but it was enough to build a little equity. we'll use the federal government's purchasing power to unlock billions of dollars in
9:59 am
new opportunities of minority-owned small businesses and access the government contracts. is there any doubt that providing more people with just a little more breathing room to take care of their families, generate a little bit of wealth that they can pass on to their children and create jobs in their communities that would uplift the entire country? all the country? everyone. and as the economy recovers we are determined and focused on rebuilding it over the long run. no one should have to hold their breath as they cross a run down bridge to determine whether it's safe or not, a dangerous intersection in their hometown, a nation. every american, every child should be able to turn on a faucet and drink water that's not contaminated by lead or anything else. as a nation everyone should have access to affordable high-speed
10:00 am
internet. gone are the days when you have to pull up to a mcdonald's and sit in the parking lot with your child to do their homework when there's virtual learning going on. dr. king said of all the forms of inequity injustice in health care is the most shocking and most inhumane. this is a once in a century pandemic that has hit this country hard and especially the african-american community. it's like you've all lost someone to the virus or no someone who has lost a loved one. 1 in 600 black americans have died from covid-19. it's been reported that the black children more than twice as likely as white children to have lost a parent or a care giver to covid-19, to have to experience the trauma and loss. many of my colleagues in the congress are working on what we have to now work on even more fervently, and that is


info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on