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all right. i'm going to be in rome all weaw weekend as part of cnn's g 20 summit. [speaking foreign language]. >> see you tomorrow. beginning at 1111:00 a.m. easte. for now, don lemon now. you got the president of the united states saying drinks on you to the pope and telling him a story about satchel paige. what a day. >> what a day. two of the most famous catholics in the world right now. the biggest catholics in the world getting together. i thought it was interesting. i kind of want to relate to what is happening where we live because someone we know, father beck who weighed in on this and now all of a sudden is not at his perish on long island near where we live. i hope the folks there are listening because a lot of
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people are upset for saying something that the pope cleared up today. do you disagree? >> the pope has now said it twice. he called joe biden again. you know, look, people are like what he said -- pope, if you respect the history and tradition or you don't. we don't hear a pope say someone is a good catholic. >> right. >> for him to say that to joe biden is really him trying to be instructive of a point. it's like literally, he said this is the second time i've told you this now. this guy can get communion. focus on something else. >> right. >> and it will be interesting to see whether or not they heed francis' call. >> yeah. listen, i'll say sometimes church people can be really churching and that's the church i go to on the internet, the potter's house in dallas, texas. sometimes church people can be the most judge mental.
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sometimes christians are the most judge mental and maybe we should think about that making these calls. i got to tell you, the president has a lot on his plate there and he's got a lot on his plate back home. when you get back, when do you come back? monday or so? we'll be covering the election. >> yeah. >> you'll be dealing with that. there is a lot going on. >> first real measure of the projection of democratic power. we have people on here, the democrats spinning this is a good thing going on and robust conversation. we're going to see in this virginia race if the masses are going to match the media spin. because terry mcauliffe has no business being locked up in a tied race with glenn youngkin. he's a popular former governor there. virginia is blue. biden won it by ten points. the democrats don't think this process hurt them. i think they may see a different lesson in tuesday's election. >> i don't disagree with you. if they have that message, this is the process and the way
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democracy works, that should have been the messaging from the beginning and shouldn't have been arbitrary deadlines and maybe they could be winning with that message. this is how a democracy works and we'll have as many voices participate as possible. instead, they gave dead lives and said they didn't meet this deadline. what do democrats do when they can't get it together? that's the message and narrative. i'll let you go. go buy some drinks for you or anybody else or the pope or the president. i love you. see you later. >> the pope's house is behind me. [ laughter ] >> i'll see you. thank you, sir. so, this is "don lemon tonight." thank you for joining us. all eyes on virginia, the key race and race for governor and decision day is four days away as we've been discussing. the outcome will have far reaching implications in national politics and could be an early indicator which way our country is heading. the democrat in the race terry mcauliffe on the left of the
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screen versus glenn youngkin on the right. the race is neck and neck. the latest post has mcauliffe at a 49%. youngkin 48. that's really neck and neck, right? that's in line with earlier polling by cbs and a late fox news poll shows glen don youngk ahead. let me say this so you know, i'm not here to endorse one candidate over another. that's for virginia's voters to decide. what i am doing here is point out how important it is one year out from the important 2022 midterm elections. democrats desperately want mcauliffe to win virginia and tonight is campaign getting a big boost from the vice president kamala harris. >> now you-all know that every
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four years when this election happens for governor of virginia, it's a tight election. it's a close election. and it is a bellwether for what happens in the rest of the country. what happened in virginia? well, in large part determine what happens in 2022, 2024 and on. >> so let me just point out the obvious hovering over this race is a spector of the former president and terry mcauliffe who was leading but has slipped in the polls is trying to c convince virginia zirgvoters a for glenn youngkin is a vote for you know who. >> he encouraged donald trump could be reinstated to office. >> donald trump. >> donald trump. >> we don't need a lap dog for donald trump. >> just a few days ago,
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mcauliffe campaigned for president biden that beat his predecessor by ten points in virginia but in the same state, this race is neck and neck and biden pushing youngkin into trump's corner. >> terry's opponent has made all of his private pledges of loyalty to donald trump and what is really interesting to me, he won't stand next to donald trump now that the campaign is on. think about it. he won't allow donald trump to campaign for him in this state. >> well, the democrats' strategy worked. will it work? we'll find out soon enough. tuesday night to be specific and we're going to cover it for you-all night. so like i said, mcauliffe has been slipping in the polls. he wanted biden's infrastructure and social spending bills passed by now and maybe more than the president did. he pleaded with democrats in congress to get it done.
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it's close but it's not there yet and too late for mcauliffe where voters have been casting ballots for weeks now. for his part, youngkin is trying to keep his distance from the former president and didn't want to campaign with him. >> he's not coming and in fact, we're campaigning as virginians in virginia with virginians. >> his strategy has been to rile up voters what kids are being taught in schools and throwing in fear and lies about critical race theory. again, on tuesday we'll know how voters feel. one thing is for certain, one thing is sure, if youngkin wins trump will take credit and the democrats will have lost a state president biden won by ten points just one year ago. so yes, there is a lot at stake
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in this race. repercussions nationwide and elections to come. we're also learning today congressman adam kinzinger of illinois is retiring from congress. that is too bad because kinzinger, a republican is a fierce critic of the former president, one of very few who are willing to stand up to his slash and burn stale politics and who stands up for the truth and stands up for our democracy. that's a real shame. kinzinger is one of ten republicans in the house to vote to impeach the former president and he's one of the only two republicans with liz cheney to agree to sit on the select committee to investigate on the deadly january 6th investigation making his announcement today and saying this. >> this country is in an incredibly perilous time because to prevail or survive, you must belong to a tribe.
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dehumanizing each other has become the norm. we've taken it from social media to the streets. >> he's right. dehumanizing behavior has become the norm. i'll give you some examples. so bear with me. followers of the former president fed a constant stream of lies the election was stolen. thought it was okay to storm the capitol on january 6th. dehumanizing behavior. five people died that yet. yet, some of kinzinger's gop's out right dismissing the violence. >> there was no insure rrectiond to call it an insure recollection in my opinion is a boldface lie. >> out right propaganda and lies being used against law-abiding citizens especially trump voters. as a result, the doj is
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harassing peaceful patriots across the country. >> it was trump supporters who lost their lives that day, not trump supporters who were taking the lives of others. >> when i see this sheet on our timeline and on the, let's see, okay, at 2:07 a mob of trump supporters breached the steps. i don't know who did a poll that is trump supporters. >> there have been things worse than people without any firearms coming into a building. >> adam kinzinger calling out the former president without saying his name. >> we have allowed leaders to reach power selling the false premise that strength comes from dehumanizing those who look, act or think differently than we do. >> also applies to members of
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congress rather than debating issues on the floor of the house, which is their job, scream at their opponents on the steps of the capitol. >> a baby up until birth is lack of civility. called murder. how about the border down there? lack of civility. lack of laws. >> the basic thing you're taught in church, respect -- >> gop representative marjorie taylor greene's egregious behavior is embarrassing, a member of congress yelling at a colleague in public but sadly, not unusual anymore according to adam kinzinger. >> in congress, i've witnessed how division is heavily rooted. there is little to no desire to bridge our differences and unity is no longer a word we use. >> so, where do we go from here?
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where we go is really important. more important than ever. and when truth telling democracy defending republicans don't think there is a place for them in the party anymore, it's time for the gop to do real soul searching. think that will happen? i'll let you decide. now, just four days to go until the election and very important election for governor in virginia, up next, the experts weigh in on a race too close to call tonight. >> watch what is happening around this country. this is no joke. you think they don't think watching this around the country think if we can take virginia, we can do this a lot of other places? don't let virginia be an experiment.
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at the university of virginia and the former advisor to george w. bush and john mccain. he's the executive producer of "the circus." look, one of my favorite people is here. >> flip a coin. [ laughter ] >> kidding, good to see both of you glad to have you on a friday night. larry, we'll start with you. virginia, you know like the back of your hand days from the election and new washington post poll has youngkin and mcceccaul in a tight race. come tuesday, what do you expect? >> close and competitive and tight like that is. i have to tell you, you often look and mark has seen this so many times. you look to campaigns themselves to see when their mood is. you can read into it accurately. the republicans here are just through the roof with excitement and the crowds are large for youngkin. they feel like they're finally on the verge of victory after
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losing everything for a decade. the democrats are tense, they're nervous, they can't believe they're in this position where it's extremely close. they hadn't expected it this way. that doesn't necessarily mean youngkin will win and mcauliffe will lose but it tells you this campaign ended up in an unexpected place, probably for both sides. >> yeah. so momentum, momentum, mark, where do you pin mcauliffe's lack of momentum? how much of it can you put on president biden's falling approval ratings or stalled domestic agenda? does that have anything to do with it? >> it's part of it, don. as larry said, there is data out there supporting the notion the race tightened up. i spent a lot of time on the ground there last week and the week before and just as a guy who has been in a lot of campaigns, one of the things i look for is where is the
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momentum? where can you feel the wind at their back and it's absolutely the youngkin campaign. their rallies have -- feels very organic. people are very excited. you go to the mcauliffe rallies and very flat, very down. and what's happened in this race is young kinkin has kept trump of and it all politics local race and mcauliffe has made it nationalized and all about trump and, you know, plus the problem is the mcauliffe is just been around the track a lot. he's an older generation, not a new face, not necessarily the best nominee for the democratic party in the current era. >> yeah. hey, let me ask you, larry, what about early voting or mail in voting? will that make a difference in whose favor is that? >> well, it's certainly going to make a big difference. it may not make the difference. we'll have well over a million
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early votes in virginia zis jus starting a system where you can vote early either in person or by mail physical mail is ever deliver and a million plus will have done that by election day. 3.5 million, a marjority of the vote will be cast on election day. all the models and both sides agree, the modelling suggestion democrats have an edge of maybe 60/40 somewhere in that vicinity. they're the 60 republicans of the 40. if mcauliffe pulls it out, it will be because they banked a lot of early votes maybe before the race was closer people focused on youngkin. the voting began september 17th. that was a long time ago. >> that was a long time ago. mark youngkin was first seen as you're a romney type gop candidate but the final stretch of this campaign is fueled by the fire over parental rights,
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critical race theory. listen to this. >> on day one i'll ban critical race theory from our schools. we'll give choice in the public school system. >> friends, we know, it all starts with curriculum. >> we will not teach our children to actually compete against one another based on race. >> terry mcauliffe wants to put government between parents and children. >> it's amazing to me, mark, how democrats have a message of winning and want to help the country and get nursery school and parents and child careful they can't win with that. he's hitting a nerve with voters, recent polls show education climbing and importance among voters if it's hogwash, right, that he's talking about critical race theory that is not being taught. he's winning on the culture war front. >> they are doing something very
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interesting, don. yes, he's put his thumb on an issue that is really hot not just in virginia but across the country and that's education broadly because of covid, because of school boards, all kinds of issues. the race theory is a dog whistle, the young king campaign. it's interesting, you heard him talk about it there. they have run zero ads that mention critical race theory and talk about parental control and lots of other things we don't mention critical race theory. that's directed at the base. the broader parental involvement isindependents, conservative democrats. they try to keep it below the radar but we had alex wagner, my co-host interviewed a woman very prom inninent in the critical r theory in virginia and interesting -- >> hey, mark, can e we play tha for you? >> oh, great. >> let's play that. >> i've seen what the training
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looks like. they call it culturally responsive training. it is definitely racist. they are putting down the child for the color of their skin. >> where do you see evidence of that? >> one particular sixth grade middle school here was a wrap s -- rap song pushing the slaughter of the native americans. the lyrics of the song was putting down andrew jackson at the time. >> i mean, i think a lot of people would credit andrew jackson with the genocide of the native population. >> yes, but how do you discuss it without -- >> denigrating whiteness. >> yeah, at what point do you forgive and stop segregating? >> well, the interesting thing about her point of view is that when we went to interview her, she's not a rogue character. she actually got the sign off from the campaign to talk to us. the clip goes on for awhile and
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believe me, it gets very controversial, don, as she says plaq black kids aren't judged on their skin and it's how they dress and they aren't respectful to police and that's why they get arrested and goes on and on. my point is the youngkin campaign signed off on her being a surrogate for them. >> wow. larry, what did you think of that? >> i want to add one thing. mark is young and you're young but i'm ancient and i've been here in virginia since the 1960s and noticed one little thing. every time a republican is either behind or in a really close race, they find a way to drag race into the campaign. every time. every time. sometimes it's immigrants. sometimes it's blacks. sometimes it's latinos, other groups. this critical race theory discussion and mark is right, it isn't in the ads, it's in the
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stump speeches. critical race theory is a way of speaking to whites and saying to whites don't let the blacks take over. they have already taken over. they have already taken over. stop them. this is your chance to stop them. and i can consider that repulsive whether you're for a candidate's conservative philosophy or against. why does race always have to be dragged into it? >> well, can you answer that question? why do you think? >> because whites are still a large majority and maybe some are concerned about the fact the society is moving toward a multi racial society in the 2040s and they're concerned about their position in society and they want to make sure they're still on top. >> same question, mark. >> oh, i think larry is exactly right. i mean, what is happening is they are losing the majority status and think the only way to maintain power in a diversified
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culture is to double down on these kind of messages, which they think will amp up the diminishing white turnout they had. >> there is no lack of material for either of you for the polls and for your show. thank you, gentlemen. i'll see you next week and we'll talk about this. have a great weekend. i'll watch this weekend. thank you. so it appears republican congressman adam kinzinger not running for reelection. will there be anyone left to call out the b.s. [yodeling] yo-de-le-he... (man 2) hey, no. uh-uh, don't do that. (man 1) we should go even higher! (man 2) yeah, let's do it. (both) woah! (man 2) i'm good. (man 1) me, too. (man 2) mm-hm. (vo) adventure has a new look. (man 1) let's go lower. (man 2) lower, that sounds good. (vo) discover more in the all-new subaru outback wilderness. love. it's what makes subaru, subaru.
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another vocal trump critic leaving congress. adam ki adam ke a adam kinzinger announcing he won't run in 2022. >> we've allowed leaders to reach power selling the false premise that strength comes from degrading others and dehumanizing those that look, act or think differently than we do. it has become increasingly obvious to me as a country, we must ucnplug from the mistruths we've been fed. i can't think of a broader fight nationwide. >> so joining me, cnn global affairs analyst mr. max boot. good evening to you. so kinzinger was one of the top,
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you know, one of the trump ten, okay, one of the trump ten i should say, the ten republicans that voted for impeachment, now two of them aren't seeking reerecr reelection, will any of them be able to survive in the trump gop? >> that's a great question, don. i mean today, trump said two down, eight to go and he may well get the other eight, too. they are facing tough challenges including liz cheney with multiple challengers lining up to run against her, i think it's very tough to be a patriot in today's republican party because anybody who stands up for our democracy and for the constitution is driven out. that's not what the republican party wants. they want trump, people that will back the big lie and people that will back donald trump because pretty much, the only thing holding the republican party together right now is loyalty to donald trump. >> you know, kinzinger was once
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seen as the future of the gop served in the air force, foreign policy expert and at least for now, he's not seeking reelection. look, he says he wants to -- he can't run and then, you know, try to make a broader change within the republican party or within the system there. i mean, what do you think? is this the republican party eating its own or politics eating its own, the big lie and all of that? >> absolutely. absolutely, don. there is almost no room in today's republican party for anybody who stands up to trump. i mean, there is a hand full of exceptions like larry hogan who are governors in blue states but if you have a republican district or if you represent a republican state, the voters expect you to be 100% loyal to trump. you have polls showing that, you know, something like 70 to 80% of republicans want donald trump to vote again and well over 60% believe the big lie, believe that trump actually won the last
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election. i mean, this is just collective madness, which is seized the party -- >> i mean, max, there is absolutely no evidence, the evidence all points in the other direction even, you know, when they had the fraud-its and do recount after recount after recount and shows that none of what trump is saying and the people who believe the big lie, none of it is true. i don't understand it. what is that? >> you know, it's a collective madness, don, which seized the republican party. you've had, you know, other moments in history where people have fallen in behind authoritarian leaders that promised fantastical things and their followers, the followers believed what seems to outsiders to be literally insane promises or nonsensical arguments. this is basically a cult.
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it's a -- this massive madness, which is gripping the republican party and it's frightening and to be hold. >> it's really -- it's fascinating just as an observer and frustrating as an observer just to watch it. republicans are running on the culture wars. you can see what is happening in virginia with glenn youngkin. listen to what ted cruz, how he was defending who -- what he was defending with merrick garland this week. watch this. >> during this hearing, i counted 20 incidents sited. of the 20, 15 on their face are non-violent. they involve things like insults. they involve a nazi solute. my god. a parent did a nazi solute because they thought the policy was -- is that protected by the first amendment? >> yes, it is. >> what is interesting is what
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he was pointing out there had no truth. what he was saying about the memo, there was no truth. it's absurd the hysteria over masks that has gone so far an elected senator is defending a n nazi solute as a form of protest and mischaracterizing the memo he's using to do that. do you understand what i'm saying? >> yeah, it's bizarre this is the ground ted cruz chooses to pick a fight that he's enraged about a nazi solute and the attorney general to get him to agree it's okay to give nazi solutes. it's astonishing and very well may be at a political level may be vindicated this hysteria over a high school senior reading a
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toni morrison novel. it paying off for glenn youngkin. don, the point i want to stress here is this. that is not the issue in virginia. it's not the issue around the country. the issue is very simple. do you support or oppose donald trump's war on american democracy? and it's pretty clear that glenn youngkin and a lot of other republicans don't have the courage to oppose trump's war on democracy and those who do, like adam kinzinger are on their way out. >> max, always a pleasure. good to see you. thank you. >> thanks, don. the armorer on the movie set where alex baldwin fatally shot a crew member is breaking her silence. she says she has no idea where the live ammo came from.
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multiple revolvers, a replica and firearm seized from the set of "rust," grabbing photos, ammunition, spent blank round and ammo. joining me is the sheriff of santa fe county. thank you for joining us. >> glad to be here. >> so listen, there is a lot here. there is a lot here. i think the real question is where did that round come from? >> well, i think that's the focus of our investigation. how the round got there, who brought it there and why it was there. those are the questions that we want answered. i think that's the focus of our investigation. >> and no one has any clue about how that round got there? because you have all of these items, tell me about the items that you found and there are still more to the search on the set. >> right. so the third search warrant that
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we did was yesterday. we did search the prop truck and there were several firearms that were seized from the vehicle along with more ammunition and right now we're going through that evidence and we're processing it to determine exactly what type off firearms and ammunition they have. >> so listen, the armorer for the movie hanna gutierrez is si it says i quote, safety is hanna's number one priority onset ultimately, this set would never have been compromised if live ammo were not introduced. hanna has no idea where the live rounds came from. the whole production set became unsafe due to various factors including lack of safety meetings. this was not the fault of hanna. so look, that's her side of the story. that's what he says released through her attorneys. she says she was hired for two
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positions on the film, according to her made it difficult to focus on her job as an armorer and paints a picture of corners being cut and the lack of safety including safety meetings. i know investigators are looking for a followup interview with her. do you have additional questions you want to ask her? >> absolutely. we did, we were made aware of the statement this morning and that statement has been forwarded to our investigators. i think that statement actually brings forth more questions than it gives answers. so we do have some follow up questions, i think she raises some concerns in her statement, raises some issues and we'd like some clarification on her statement. >> so what do you mean? it raises more, what questions, like what? >> well, i mean, she wages the questions of safety. she stated that safety is priority. we'd like to know what steps she took to make sure the set was safe. there is a lot of questions that
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she brings to light in her statement we would like clarification on and a lot of issues she says there were safety issues there. she said she was not aware of the rounds of the live rounds onset. so we would like to have a clear picture of what the protocols were, what the processes were, and how she was maintaining the safety there. there is a lot of followup questions in reference to the statement. >> more in the statement. she says guns were locked up every night and at lunch and that there is no way a single one of them was unaccounted for or being shot by crew members. does this contradict anything that we have -- that we know now? >> well, there is always going -- not always but there has been contradictory statements. again, when there is a contradiction, we like clarification. we would like her to come back in and do a followup interview and follow up with the contradicting statements. >> so when you spoke to her
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this -- wherever she released in the statement, she did not say that when you spoke to her? this is new to you? >> you know, the investigators got the statement this morning. they're comparing her statement this morning to the interview that she did initially and so, again, they'll come up with some clarifying statements or some clarifying questions, i guess in reference, if there is any contradictions. >> another person you're focused on is the assistant director david halls. is he cooperating? >> well, right now we understand that he does have counsel, and we're requesting the same from him, for him to cooperate, come in, clarify. we have clarifying questions and some followup questions for him, too. we encourage both of them to come in and continue to cooperate in the investigation. >> do you feel you're any closer to figuring out what happened? >> we're getting closer. you know, we're gathering more
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evidence, we're making -- we're conducting more interviews. day by day we're getting closer but we have a long ways to go. >> sheriff mendonsa, thank you for your time. appreciate it. a big announcement from the fda that could impact 28 million children kids 5 to 11 years old could get a vaccine as early as next week. is struggling to manage your type 2 diabetes knocking you out of your zone? lowering your a1c with once-weekly ozempic® can help you get back in it. oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! my zone... lowering my a1c, cv risk,
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the cdc could give the green light as soon as next week. so let's discuss now. cnn medical analyst dr. jonathan rhiner is here for our friday night house call. good evening. how are you? >> i'm good, don. >> thank you for joining. a friend that i know, two of his children got covid, asymptomatic, a surprise to them. so kids can get it. they happened to be asymptomatic but not all children are so this is very important. we're getting so close to what parents have been long waiting for. the cdc will meet on tuesday. if they aapprove vaccines for kids, how soon could we be seeing the vaccines going into arms? >> i expect dr. welinski will aapprove the committee's almost certain recommendation for this
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vaccine. as the vaccines are shipping, i expect children will start to receive it on wednesday. so next week we'll start to get shots into arms. >> recent polling shows a majority of parents say they won't vaccinate their kids right away with cases going down, some parents are wondering if it is even worth it. i think the exam of what i just said. you know, that's why it is worth it. it wasn't just the two kids, right? my friend's two kids. the two kids got it from someone at school who got it from soccer practice and so on and so forth. >> right. a million kids have gotten infected with this virus over the last six weeks or so. a million children. and children, thousands of kids have been hospitalized in the united states. about 700 kids have died. so if you had told me 18 months ago when we were in the deep, darkest days of this pandemic, right at the beginning, when
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everything was unknown, that 18 months in the future, we would be getting shots into kids' arms, first of all, i wouldn't have thought it would be possible. and i never would have imagined the majority of parents would refuse to do it. this is really the heavy lifting now. in comparison to last year when we started vaccinating the american public, the big barrier was the supply of vaccines. now the big barrier is getting parents to bring their kids to the pediatrician to get their vaccination. and this is going to require a lot of work, a lot of education, a lot of patience and a lot of trust. that will take some time. >> there has been a lot of back and forth over people who are protected have enough protection already. but a knew study shows unvaccinated people are five
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time more likely to test positive than the people who had a vaccination in the last three to six months. >> yeah. there's been some back and forth data. some data suggests that natural immunity help. higher levels of immunity with the vaccine with other studies. so this study compared those two kinds of immunity. natural immunity that comes after infection and immunity that comes after vaccination and what it found is that if you were unvaccinated but had had a prior infection, you were five times more likely to be hospitalized with covid than somebody who had simply been vaccinated. suggesting that natural immunity is not good enough. and this has been parroted, this notion that oh, if you've had a vaccine, if you've had an infection, you have a natural vaccine. you don't need to be immunized. people like rand paul said this.
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this data from the cdc refutes that notion. everyone in this country needs to be vaccinated. that includes people who have recovered from covid and coming next week, children 5 to 11. >> thank you, doctor. appreciate it. >> thank you. president biden trying to repair manager's reputation abroad and he is making a bold admission to the french president. orrrr... you could us. and edit your message after it's sent. [sigh of relief.] slack. where the future works. introducing fidelity income planning. we look at what you've saved, what you'll need,
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