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"don lemon tonight" with the big star d lemon now. >> you're back and better than ever. how was your trip? >> it was good. it was good to see the g 20, to
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understand some of the concerns. >> looking back at being out of the country and sort of having an overview of looking at america from the other side, what did you think? >> yeah, and talking to italians about how they see us but also seeing a lot of the echoes of what's going on there. they good a got case of rage against the machine in that society, also. and they are hungry for renegades. they don't trust the government. they're not sure about the vaccine. you know, they are something and this is always the trick for us, okay? at the end of the day, they don't just look alike, they have the same blood and they have culture and they have language and they have feel. and that never goes away. they're all italian. so they may have their disagreements and may not like each other and have government turnover and bureaucracy but they're all italian. >> are you seeing we don't have that cohesion as we're all
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americans? >> what does that mean? for us it means a common sense of purpose, a collective will because we don't have the look alike, the same blood and so it's always trickier for us. it's always been about cause and when you mess with shared sense of purpose, it's very dangerous for us. another thing it reminded me of is not all white people are the same. like what matters to me as an italian american is different than what will matter to a polish american. you know, the way we see different traditions and times of the year and how we deal with certain things. you know, culture matters. even if you're american, it's still depending on how removed you are from it and how present it is in your life in terms of your value system. >> that's what we've lost in the last, i think, the last five years or so is that of course, we're different. we're all different, right? and, and that is what america is supposed to be about, all different people getting
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together and making this experiment work and at the end of the day, all being americans. but when you have people especially the person in the highest office in the land dividing us on race, on political ideology, on anything that he can divide us on, then you end up with people yelling and shouting at each other at school board meetings or public or whatever it is. and i think what we have lost in all of this is that we are all americans and yes, we disagree but that is the way this is supposed to work. we have our disagreements. we work it out. we come together. then we do it over again because it's a grand experiment. i think that experiment is in trouble. i'm glad you're back but i got to get to the breaking news because it's election eve. >> love you d. lemon. >> glad you're back. >> don't worry, i got you a gift or actually, christina did. >> of course, she's the good person in the family. >> i know. this is "don lemon tonight."
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it's election eve in america, are you ready? are you guys ready? election eve. this is really edge of your seat type stuff. let me go on. millions of people set to go to the polls across the country tomorrow, millions of early votes are in and what we're learning in a matter of hours will tell us a lot about what we're going to expect in the mid terms and beyond. 2022, 2024. and beyond really. what may be the most edge of your seat race is in virginia. that's where the mcauliffe and youngkin are trying to get every last vote for the race. youngkin walking a fine line distancing himself from the hirest profile supporter while welcoming voters with open arms. okay? distancing himself from his most high profile supporter but then,
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right, not -- but then welcoming the former guy's voters. delicate dance. the former president calling into a telerally for youngkin. he's been out on the trail all day not mentioning you know what. >> this race is neck and neck, we're coming up on the outside passing but we got to get it done tomorrow. we got to get it done. the entire nation is watching this. why? why? there is only two statewide elections this year, new jersey and virginia and all eyes are on virginia. the nation needs us to vote for them, too. >> okay. so but as usual, you know, the former president is saying the quiet part out loud and it's so easy to do it. this is what everybody does. he does it as a sport saying that the news media and ads
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quote are trying to create an impression that glenn youngkin and i are at odds and don't like each other. importantly, this is not true. we get along very well together and strongly believe in many of the same policies. which is exactly what youngkin doesn't want voters to hear and exactly what mcauliffe is hammering at every opportunity. >> i am running against, i like to say donald trump in khakis or sweater vests. what is he going to do with all those sweater vests at the end of this campaign? but trump has now endorsed him for the tenth time today. today, today donald trump issued two statements attacking me and endorsing glenn youngkin, today, two. what does that tell you? little maga people not as excited as you thought. >> well, the big news on capitol
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hill together, democrats getting closer to votes this week on both bills topping joe biden's, president joe biden's agenda. now, both bills, okay, despite joe mansion saying he won't support these social spending bills without greater clarity about it's impact on i'm nflati and the economy. >> for the sake of the country, i urge the house to vote and pass the bipartisan infa st-- infrastructure bill. i for one won't support a multi trillion dollar bill without greater clarity about why congress chooses to ignore the serious effects of inflation and debt that have on our economy and existing government programs. more of the real details outline the frame worker release, i see shell games that make the real cost of the so-called $1.75 trillion bill estimated to be almost twice that amount.
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if the full time has run out. if you extend it permanently. >> okay. so let's talk about this. a source telling cnn mansion didn't want to get jammed into supporting something he wasn't ready to endorse. another source telling cnn house democratic leaders could move as soon as wednesday night or thursday to put both the social spending and the infrastructure bills on the floor for a final vote. or for final votes. there is still a possibility the timing could change but things sure sound like they're moving forward. listen, this is pramila jayapal today. >> i think that we are ready pending some final negotiations on things we care very much about, immigration and prescription drug pricing. we know senators are still negotiating that. some details on child care but those are the last pieces and once we have those we will be happy to vote both those bills, the infrastructure and pbuild
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back better and i hope that can happen tomorrow or the next day. we're ready to get this transformational change to people. >> that is a big concession from the congresswoman. she's ready to vote on both bills and to trust president biden to get joe mansion and kyrsten sinema on board. but when it comes to trust, there is not a lot of it coming from honestly from joe mansion. because when i said let's talk about it. i just want to put some more subss subs substance. he talks about inflation and shell games. is he right? is he being fair? okay. well consider this, joe mansion is not ready to support the social spending bill but he's fine with the infrastructure bill even though that added $250 billion to the deficit. senator bernie sanders saying the congressional budget office estimated the infrastructure bill would add $256 billion to
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deficits over the next decade but joe mansion didn't want to talk about that tonight. >> senator, the infrastructure bill you supported added $250 billion to the deficit. how do you square that with comments today with concerns about the debt and deficit of build back better bill? >> okay. that is a good question, right? he's fine with adding to the deficit for infrastructure, just not for special spending. you know, spending on universal preschool, affordable child care, elder care, care for americans with disabilities. this is what is in there. and expanded child tax credit. a sweeping plan to combat the climate crisis. exactly the kinds of things the president was elected to do as a
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democrat. things that could make life better for every american. and mansion's concerns about inflation, the white house saying that 17 noble prize winning economists have said the bill will reduce inflation. the house speaker nancy pelosi pointing out the treasury secretary janet yellen says it will boost the economy that tends to push inflation down, not up. mansion says he needs more time to consider the social spending bill. but the house weighs and means committee chair richard neal isn't buying that. watch. >> i don't know how you can make the argument of slowing down a piece of legislation that's been out there for more than 2.5 months from the weighs and means committee. the argument that you don't know what's in the bill at this stage, i could do it in verse
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and rhyme. >> it will be cards of the table for joe mansion. corey bush saying joe mansion doesn't get to ding ctate the future of the country and the build back better act is anti black, anti child, anti woman and anti immigrant. that is from representative corey bush. while his party is scramquabbli over his agenda, president joe biden in an extraordinary moment at the u.n. climate summit apologized for the united states walking away from the paris clee climate accord. >> i guess i shouldn't apologize but i do apologize for the fact that the united states in the last administration pulled out of the paris accord. >> that is not something you hear every day. one american president apologizing for another american president in front of a room full of world leaders. president biden unannounced,
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excuse me, president biden announced the u.s. would rejoin the paris accords hours after he was sworn into office in january. meanwhile, here at home staggering revelations about the january 6th incident, the insurrection and just how close we came to a coup. "the washington post" reporting the then president was glued to the tv while lawmakers were under attack refusing for 187 minutes to do or so anything to stop the assault on our democracy. "the post" reporting at the exact moment mike pence and hii riters, he wtweeting an attack n his own vice president saying he didn't have the courage to do what had to be done. that's exactly why it matters that the january 6th committee digs deeply, very deep into what happened that day. this is exactly why it matters that they and all of us do what
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the polls open in just hours on election day in that state. again, there you saw glenn youngkin taking to the stage. the governor's race looking closer than close. let's get to the analysis. the director for the center of politics for the university of virginia. he knows virginia like no one else and a former advisor to george w. bush and john mccain and executive producer of "the circus" on show time. i enjoyed every minute of that this weekend. he knows his business like everybody else meaning the business of politics. gentlemen, good evening. larry, i'll get to you. tomorrow at this time we'll be counting the votes. give us your prediction of the famous crystal ball. what does it say? >> we have it leaning democrat to mcauliffe since the spring but we tilted it to the republicans although we still think it's very close and competitive and the mcauliffe campaign gave me 14,000 statistics to prove that this evening. so i'd say it's very close and competitive.
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it really boils down to what kind of lead terry mcauliffe has in the early vote released first, 1.1 to 1.2 million people who voted in person early or by mail starting september 17th and ending on saturday. if he has a big enough lead, he can survive what's likely to be a youngkin wave on election day, republicans are more inclined to vote on election day. if he doesn't have that long a lead, then sometime around, i don't know, 11:00, just to pick a time, youngkin could go ahead, mcauliffe to stay. >> uh-huh. let's talk, mark, after -- listen, after watching "the circus" this weekend i learned a lot and they talked a lot about biden and what democrats are doing in washington and you interviewed democrats. this is biden's approval rating, cnn polls and his approval rating of 42%. how big a fact tor is this
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president and his stalled agenda and the polls, how big a factor is that in veirginia for voters there? >> the thing youngkin has done well is local ielize the electi. he is trying to nationalize and make it about trump. what youngkin has done is a really artful job keeping trump at arm's length and motivating the base and at the same time not hugging trump closely enough so he's attracting support from independent and soft democrats -- conservative democrats and doing it because he's -- there is an anxiety among voters particularly about schools and really tapped that anxiety, some of it is about critical race theory and targeted messaging and more broadly, it's about mask mandates and vaccines but he's really tapped into that and if he wins, this is going to be a road map for republicans how they run and the interesting
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thing is he's done it by keeping trump at arm's length while mcauliffe is trying to hug him up. >> as my grandmother and mom would say, there are certain people you treat with a long handle spoon, right? [ laughter ] >> a really long handle. [ laughter ] >> you know, old cooking thing is. you stir the gumbo with a long handle spoon because you don't want to touch it because it's hot but you need to do it. i think he's doing very well by doing that. i got to ask you, larry, let's talk about this voter turnout again. you said democrats may have banked a lot of early votes but both campaigns say they think the turnout could top 3 million voters in total. that is a big number. both camps are taking it as a positive sign. what do you think about that? >> well, it means there's a lot of attention and interest in and excitement about this race, you know, partly, don, because every news channel has been covering this about every hour and that does have an impact over time but of course, what really matters is which combination of
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voters are showing up? this is the real advantage that youngkin has. the fact that republicans have been charged up, they're angry at biden, they're angry at the congressional democrats. they're angry that trump lost. they're angry about education and some of the issues that were just mentioned there but i also think the democrats may be getting more interested right at the end. they're certainly trying to do it. whether they can do it or not we'll find out tomorrow but, you know, trump was back at it today. there is long and incredibly en en en -- enthusiastic endorsement. they never appeared together but trump endorsed youngkin seven or eight times and a couple times just very recently like today.
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>> yeah. it's interesting. i mean, the more think about it because mark, basically what he's saying is i think this is a question for more broadly for all republicans, especially those running, right who want to stay in office. what does it say that, you know, that youngkin is saying i want your voters but i don't want you? do you know what i'm saying, mark? >> yeah, i know exactly what you're saying, i think that's why i'm saying this is a potential road map for future. the problem for republicans more broadly is they have trump on the windshield when they should be in the rearview mirror. the only drag on them is donald trump and that's why youngkin is showing the way forward, get trump behind us and show a road map forward. >> mcauliffe said young kkin wa doing app event with trump. are democrats putting too much stock in this moment? is that a way to win when he's
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not on the ballot? >> 100% great point, don. the fact is democrats need to have, to arct articulate a vers for the future. all the mcauliffe is doing is saying this is about trump and voters say i have concerns about my schools, my neighborhoods, what's going on around me and youngkin has done a good job by saying all politics is local. >> uh-huh. larry, listen, youngkin has hammered home the parental rights and education issues that have a lot of voters fired up. in fact, tonight his last rally before the election day, he called it a parents' matter rally. you say all this is where all the momentum is. i think you're agreeing with mark with this, right? >> yeah, i'm agreeing except that we need to define parents better. republican parents. republican leaning indepen demt p -- independent parents. he's not winning many biden
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voters. some of them aren't voting because their disillusioned but that's different than attracting a big percentage of biden voters. this -- these are republican issues and youngkin is attracting republican turnouts that are very large compared to what we seen in other governor's races. >> well, we will know tomorrow night about this time, maybe. close to this time. we'll know something by the end of the night. i enjoy having this conversation with you guys. thank you very much. i'll see you soon. probably tomorrow. >> kick it. >> kick it. we got a lot more on tomorrow's elections. it's not just virginia but what other elections you got to keep your eye on. that's next. with up to 50% more lotion puffs bring soothing softness and relief. a nose in need deserves puffs indeed.
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so in addition to the governor's race in virginia, voters in several major democratic cities are heading to the polls to cast their ballots in mayoral races. five to keep an eye on. okay? are you ready? minnesota, boston, buffalo, new york city and atlanta. now, the races are a bellwether for where the democratic party stands on several political issues including policing. joining me is john avalon. john, good evening, sir. >> good evening. >> so all of this stuff that we talked about over the last couple years, policing, everything, it's all coming together tomorrow night. so i want to start with
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minneapolis because we know what happened over there. huge debate over the future of policing in the wake of george floyd's murder in addition to the mayoral race and an amendment on the ballot that could real place the city's police department with a department of public safety. is minneapolis putting defund the police to a vote? is that what this is or am i wrong? >> basically yes but highlights what a disastrous slogan defunnel defund the police is. here is what the amendment would do. it would take the police department out of the city charter and replace it with public safety but remove the requirement to hire a certain number of officers when violent crime is sparking in minneapolis and split authority for the police department between the mayor and city counsel. it's not literally defunding the police but it is putting a lot of those ideas into place at a time when crime is spiking and mayor jacob frey is really fighting for his political life
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against 16 challengers right now. >> wow. that will be one to watch. let talk about races in atlanta and new york. that's where the candidates are focussing on how to address spikes in violent crime. eric adams has run a tough on crime campaign. is public safety one of the biggest issues voters looking at now. you talked about minneapolis and crime and about what about here? 100%. >> safest big city in the country decades of crime really seeing an uptick in recent years and eric adams ran a centrists but tough on police abusive power. some credibility as a former retired captain curtis lee saying he's going to be tough on crime. it's an area he was able to out flank eric adams in a poll position into tomorrow not in
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small part because he can bring it down. >> crime is up and now it going back down. is that correct? >> slightly. >> slightly. >> last year's numbers, because we obviously don't have the totals were very high -- they're still far lower than the 1990s. >> i lived here in the 1990s. when i see the pictures, i happen to be watching the, you know, conservative channel because it was the only option. so i'm watching and i was like wow, new york city looks like a hell hole there but i live in new york and walk around every day and it does not resemble what is -- you know. >> you know, sometimes political perceptions are little to do with reality. you can't fake shootings and murders and in new york or atlanta, they have been spiking. you may see short term declines but it's an issue back on people's minds and public safety is fundamental to people's quality of life. if you don't have that,
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everything else falls apart. >> very true. listen, during the pandemic, the crime was terrible. i'll get to atlanta. don't take that down. i'm not done with this part yet. thank you very much. so when -- you know, during covid, during 2020 it was high. as you said, it's going back down and it's still not great and also, i know people who were mugged and hadn't been mugged in -- hadn't been mugged in decades. so it's something very important to the people here in new york but i had been watching something like new york city does not look like the hell hole they're portraying it to be. >> no, we're far from escaped from new york. >> okay. so let's talk about atlanta. let's put the atlanta map up right now because, you know, you have eric adams that is a moderate there and this incredibly contentious race happening in atlanta there. reed is back once the man and all these other folks on the ticket, as well. what do you know about this? >> keasha lance bottoms not
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running because of covid and crime. former two term mayor of atlanta trying to mount a comeback. a big competitor is the president of the city counsel. a major american city in the world series now but there is a lot of divisions in that city bubbling up, it's a tough job. it will be a tough fought race and if any one candidate doesn't clear 50%, this will go to a run off at the end of the month. >> okay, now buffalo. there is an incredibly intense race happening there that could result in the first socialist mayor of a major american city in six decades. big name progressives endorsed socialists candidates india walton over byron brown. >> this is a fascinating race. it's being seen by democratic progressives and socialists as a bellwether. ms. walton blew the doors off brown in a low turnout dem
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democratic primary but he's mounting a come back. that sounds like mission immoral. lisa murkowski pulled it off a few decades ago but if there is a general election turnout, does it counter the momentum? no socialist mayor in six decades, apologies to bernie sanders in burlington that did fit that. not quite hitting that demographic threshold. >> mr. avalon, when you look at the races, there is a lot we learn where the country is tomorrow. do you think it will help the democratic party get on the same page in terms of messaging? i've been critical about democrats and the messaging and i think they got the point now but i don't know if they can manage to pull it together. what do you think tomorrow will present? >> the results will tell a lot. here is the deal. what i think people misunderstand about major american cities predominantly democrat is they are not a stereotypical liberal as people that live outside the cities may
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think. there is a strong pragmatic streak. the democratic party is divided by between self-identified liberals and moderates. republican party moderates r a vanishing breed. they will test the notion all politicians are local and remind folks you can't take rising crime for granted or some other concern and that as laguardia said, there is no democrat, republican or socialist way to clean the streets. this is about getting things done. whatever the results are, the message it should send to washington is get things done for people and they will respond. if you diter and stay divided, a lot will sail. >> amen. crime as we talked about is the number one thing they need to get and the economy but people want to be safe and so right on. thank you very much for that. i know what john will be watching tomorrow night, what he's going to be doing. >> with you. >> make sure you watch us. cnn coverage election night starting tomorrow at 6:00 p.m. eastern time and i'll be here way into the night with the results as they come in.
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you don't want to miss it. so up next, the incredible number of americans who say violence is justified to quote save the country. stay with us.
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appreciate you joining tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> i found this disturbing. the poll shows 30% of americans believe in violence is justified to save the country. i mean, what is the threat that they think that they're saving america from? >> yeah, well, we have a couple other clues actually in the poll itself and you're right. it's deeply troubling. i mean, you can say that as someone who has been doing social science surveys for a couple decades now and when you see a finding like this, it is alarming and something we should pay attention to. the clues about what this is really about is tightly linked to the belief that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from donald trump and in fact, among that group -- >> let me put that up. 68% of republicans think the election was stolen from trump even though it been proven over and over to be false. so go on. >> yeah, and among that group the proportion of that group that believes violence is just f
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-- justified is 4 in 10, not 3 in 10. save the country from what? from who? is the question that gets begged. the survey we asked another question highly correlated, we asked whether the country has changed for the better or worse since the 1950s and that question divides the country in half with about two-thirds of republicans saying it changed for the worst since the 1950s and two-thirds of democrats saying the changed for the better since the 1950s. you combine that with the make america great again, right, that backward looking again rhetoric and the picture comes together clearly. white christian conservatives held sway and that group makes up two-thirds of the american base. >> wow. they keep proving what -- okay. let's just move on. i think it's obvious. you break down the republicans
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who believe the election was stolen into their tv habits. okay. this is very interesting. everyone pay attention. 82% of republicans who watch fox news believe the big lie. then there is believe it or not, even further right wing outlets like oan and news max and for those, 97% of their viewers believe it. i mean, i want you to look at some of the lies they're being fed on these networks, lies. watch this. >> you have a grown up of corrupt people who have absolute contempt for the american people who believe that we're so spineless, so cowardly, so unwilling to stand up for ourselves that they can steal the presidency. >> it is a national disgrace how some states have handled this election. >> we cannot allow america's election to be corrupted. we cannot. stop letting people tell you that we don't have the evidence because we do.
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and this is only going to continue. this fraud will continue and america will be doomed for the next 20 years. >> okay. so there is no evidence. it has been proven not to be true over and over and over again by republican election officials. fox -- supreme court. fox oan won't quit the big lie any time soon so where does this lead us? >> nowhere good. what the what we're seeing in the data is the effectiveness over and over and over again and co-lesses and it's stunning to see in a poll 97% of any subgroup believing anything. right? that's an extraordinary high number and yet for those viewers for one american news and news max is unanimous believing the election was stolen. again, i think it's notable that there is two big lies here. like one is about the election but the bigger lie behind that
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is the country has been stolen from them and so once you've spent four years, five if you count the campaign of the trump years telling people their country is stolen from them, it's only a small step to say the election was stolen and something much bigger than that has been stolen from them and that did see the ground for these views. >> it's really frightening. i mean, do you think this came out of the trump presidency or here already? i mean, would we be seeing people believing in all of these lies and all of this craziness if it were not for him? >> you know, it really did get ramped up. there is a longer rhetoric here. the republican southern strategy began around the civil rights era and post civil rights was about telling disgruntled white americans their country was being stolen from them and this is a new chapter of the long assorted he'srhistory. the country has changed. so during the barack obama
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presidency for example, the country actually went from demographically speaking being a majority white christian country, 54% white and christian in 2008 to being one that is no longer a majority white christian country. it's 44% white and christian today and that reality setting in has led to an i dentity criss where abcesent legal methods to rollback the clock, there is an anti democratic reach for other means when democratic processes have failed. >> there is something i read about called the last gasp of white supremacy and what you're talking about and i believe that to be so and the desperation as you call it. let put up robert's book again. robert p. jones, thank you very much. appreciate that. his book -- make sure we get it in there. it's called "white too long." the legacy of whit sup
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preliminary see and american christianity. thank you, sir. fascinating what you've found. >> thanks so much. >> you, too. president biden apologizing on the world stage for take this, something the former president did. try vicks vapocool drops. in honey lemon chill. for fast-acting sore throat relief. wooo vaporize sore throat pain with vicks vapocool drops.
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