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contempt of congress. he refused to comply with the subpoena from the committee investigating the insurrection. they say bannon's indictment should send a message to other potential witnesses not to defy congressional subpoenas. the panel wants to know about bannon's role in lead up to the capitol riot and presence in the so-called war room at a d.c. hotel as the attack was unfolding. >> a series of statements bannon made before the insurrection, pointing to comments on his podcast the day before the riot where he offered a preview of things to come. >> all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. just understand this. all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. it is not going to happen like you think it is going to happen. it is going to be quite extraordinarily different. all i can say is strap in. the war room, a posse, you have made this happen, tomorrow it is game day. >> steve bannon is expected to
turn himself in and appear in court monday. for more on his indictment, bring in zachary cohen. >> he is part of the team that broke the story. zach, tell us more. >> he could face jail time related to his decision to defy a congressional subpoena related to the committee's investigation into january 6th. we were in the courtroom when the indictment was handed down on two counts related to contempt of congress. one regarding bannon's refusal to hand over documents the committee has called for, and the second, refusal to appear for congressional deposition. we have a long road to go before there's any decision made on this indictment and whether there's ultimately conviction. from the short term, the congressional committee is calling this a victory. they believe this will help them exponentially compelling other witnesses that may not want to talk to them to do so. >> zach, we want to put the
focus on separate legal battles the former president was having. he scored two legal victories on different lawsuits. what can you tell us about those. >> the first involves a lawsuit, a former apprentice participant, she sued trump for defamation back in 2017 related to trump saying that he did not sexual assault her, denying allegations she raised against him. she's dropping the claim now, trump will not have to sit for deposition in that case. the second involves a lawsuit filed by his former personal attorney, michael cohen. looks like he won't be getting those now. >> this legal drama will continue to play out. appreciate you. thanks. >> so let's dig deeper on steve bannon's indictment with s shan wu. this indictment revuld new
details about what the committee wants from steve bannon, documents and communications that fall into 17 different categories. help us understand what role the criminal case might have in the committee's fight to get that information. >> well, the most important part as we discussed is that it sends a message to other witnesses that there's accountability, that being subpoenaed by the united states congress means something. many people were impatient, worried the justice department would take a pass or delay it for too long and they have stood up now and do the right thing to prosecute it. it is an open and shut case, boris. he is a no show personally and no show in documents. that's what the contempt prosecution is focused on. they're not a wing of the select committee to get documents, they're focus add they should be on the criminal violation.
>> and at that point, steve bannon doesn't turn over the necessary evidence, the documents, is there anything else the committee or others can do? >> not really. he can go to jail. he can be convicted, go to prison up to one year on each of the counts, he can be fined. they can't just magically force him to produce the documents. typically people facing criminal conviction and jail time would choose to cooperate at that point, i would think, but he may not. there is the possibility that they could have considered of executing a search warrant. sometimes law enforcement, prosecutors, if you're worried evidence will be destroyed or lost, you can seek to secure it that way. we probably would have heard about that if that already happened. if it hasn't happened yet, it would be very aggressive for them to do that. i don't think that the attorney general garland would want to be that aggressive.
it is arguably outside the scope of the criminal referral and they could be concerned that doj, that that would look too partisan as though they were being a wing of the select committee. >> and at the same time, the former president is drawing out a legal battle in federal appeals court over the issue of executive privilege. you said prosecutors don't need to get into the civil issue of executive privilege in the case against bannon. he wasn't a white house official when everything post 2020 election was going on. would there be any reason to be invoked perhaps in defense of steve bannon? >> yes. absolutely. i think we can 100% expect that it will be invoked as his defense. prosecutors need to try to focus in their case on this is not a battle over executive privilege. bannon's team may argue that they should delay, stay the criminal case until all that resolves itself, possibly up to
the supreme court. prosecutors need to push hard not to let that happen. they have to say look, here's the subpoena, here's his no show. that's the case. if he wants to invoke the privilege defense, they can stop him, but it is their job to not let it delay the criminal trial. >> i imagine watching his defense attorneys argue something he said on a podcast is covered by executive privilege, right? let's say the committee also refers former white house chief of staff mark meadows to the justice department after he refused to show up for his deposition this week. will prosecutors start fresh in choosing whether to indict meadows or will the bannon case ultimately inform that decision? >> probably the bannon case informs it for this reason. behind the scenes, the justice department has probably done a lot of studying of the issue. as we all heard, it is rare to prosecute criminally contempt of congress. think it hasn't been done in 30
some years. they look at the legal landscape at this point so they don't have to re-invent the wheel on this. now, every case is different. they need to consider the facts of meadows having actually been in the white house and executive branch at that time, but i think the basic foundation of whether it is a solid, legitimate charge to bring, that's already been done. >> as always, appreciate your perspective. thank you so much, sir. >> good to see you. >> of course. still coming up, surging prices and supply chain chaos. we tell you who is being hit hardest, how inflation could impact your holidays. after years of dealing with toxic water and long term health impacts, some justice for those impacted by the crisis in flint, michigan. later this hour we talk to the city's mayor.
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from the gas station to the grocery store, americans are struggling with rising prices and historic inflation. >> the price of gas, rent, food, used and new cars all up. consumer sentiment is down to a ten year low. rising prices have left one in four people feeling their standard of living dropped. nadia ramira joins us from atlanta. atlanta specifically is one of the areas prices have seen. >> this time it is atlanta with the highest inflation rate. 30% is related to housing. there's been a housing boom, economic boom. new companies and companies railroad here that are
expanding, but low supply, more demand. that means an increase in housing prices. also, we look at energy prices, up 28% year to date here in atlanta, and that relates to gas prices. just to give you an idea, right now, the price of one gallon of unleaded gas in atlanta is p $3.28. last year, was just under $2. quite a change. the biggest, highest increase in gas prices, most expensive in the country, that belongs to california. $3.66 per gallon of unleaded. and they're just one penny shy of its all-time record, not a record anyone wants to break. some economists say gas prices we are seeing could fall as quickly as we have seen them climb. other goods that have gone up in prices, foods and other commodities, those items could take more time to sort out
because of supply chain issues. that's why the georgia governor was at the port of savannah. he says it will ease supply chain backlog, but he is placing blame squarely on the biden administration for the inflation problem. take a listen. >> i mean look, there's another whole problem with inflation. you need to ask somebody at the white house about that. everybody i'm talking to, they're worried about gas, worried about groceries and everything else you're buying. this is unsustainable. they're wanting to spend more money out there. people have got to get realistic with real economics. >> president biden was asked about the cost of everything going up, he said this is a sign more needs to be done to repair the economy. a cnn poll released this week shows a third of americans say the economy is the most pressing issue facing the country.
boris? >> thank you so much. look, it is not just atlanta or the u.s. dealing with these economic issues, it is a global thing struggling to recover from the pandemic. after months, still not running at full capacity. thousands of u.s. companies that rely on cheap raw materials, overseas manufacturing, and shipping are trapped in the current supply chain crisis. every day, we see cargo ships stuck at sea, packed crates waiting to be unloaded. just take a look. as of yesterday, there were 83, look at that, 83 container ships in the water off port of los angeles and long beach, california. i can tell you having grown up there, this is a sight i have never seen before. you can see it when you're along the beach. it is pretty astounding. my next guest is the chief
executive and said he had to remove 70% of products from retailer websites because he doesn't have inventory. good morning to you, jonathan. i can't imagine how frustrating that must be, especially with christmas a few weeks away. how are you dealing with the mess? >> very difficultly. we are not sure which will hit us to which side of the head. >> it sounds like we're dealing with a rapid rebound that many weren't expecting from the pandemic, sounds like businesses should be booming because there's huge demand but the work force and supply chain just can't keep up, is that correct? >> no. i mean, the beginning of this issue started back in 2020 when, sorry, 2000, that we entered the
wto, and shifted supply chain from quota system. our dependency on one region of the world put us in position whatever we end up needing, whether it is a single screw that can stop your factory from producing from fabric for furniture is required from a single source country. and it really is our retailers that are setting the rules of engagement on this national security issue. >> so how much is this costing you? >> well, container right now is about $25,000. you get about 20 sofas into a container. just that freight rate and tariff is another $1300 a sofa. >> tell me what it is like. you were quoted in bloomberg saying there's no stability now, it is not a normal time in the business world, you were
mentioning every day you're hit in the head with a bat. how are you planning, are you looking ahead to next quarter or next year? >> so, we moved supply chain into north america trying to source all our raw materials from the u.s., mexico, canada in an effort to actually ease our dependency on a single source. the problem is there are no factories supplying raw materials and banks don't want to lend to entrepreneurs that want to open a factory. they would rather lend to an entrepreneur that wants to open an app. >> how widespread is this problem for businesses like you where anyone who relies on customers to purchase from them. >> it is across the board. i have been seeing supply chain shortages for months, empty
shelves across the country, when i am visiting towns and customers. the issue is that retailers don't want to pivot supply chain. until they lean in and really want to get supply chain moved, you won't have that. with one consumer alone accounting for over 60% of the food sold in america, that particular customer unless they lean into north america, no one can do it. >> what can your customers expect for christmas, do you think we'll see people not getting gifts on time in general? >> well, customers come to us, we guarantee you have a six week ship time because we are north american made. our only dependency is on little raw materials, whether it is a screw or nail or fabric coming in from asia, and all those we're working very hard to cross source domestically, get rid of dependency on an ancient supply chain. >> you raise a good point.
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permanent residents that asked for help from the u.s. to leave afghanistan have been offered an opportunity to do so. >> many afghans are desperate to leave the country and struggling to get out. alex marquardt discovered many are turning to the black market for a way out. >> reporter: these are heavy steps of a young man trying to save his family. 26 years old, lives in california. can't show his face for the safety of his family in afghanistan. >> i am desperate, the danger is imminent. >> reporter: since the chaotic international withdrawal from afghanistan, his parents, siblings, wife have been in hiding from the taliban who in the past the young man says have violently beaten his father, a doctor, and been angry with his mother, a women's rights activist that worked for the u.s. >> the taliban announce to my p parents, anyone help them find my parents or family will gain a
prize. >> they put a bounty on your family's head. >> exactly. this is really serious. they went to our house, destroyed every single thing. >> reporter: desperate, he turned to facebook, finding people offering ways to get afghans out of the country for a price. >> that person came up to me, said you have to pay $10,000 per person to be evacuated. >> per person. >> nine, ten people. it would be like $100,000. i cannot provide $100,000 in cash. in a way, like even if i provide that money, there's no guarantee they will be evacuated. >> reporter: we have spoken with desperate afghans, they're being exploited like that young man, saying they can get them out if they pay exorbitant, impossible amounts. >> for one family, $50,000. >> reporter: we skype with a father of three in kabul who met with a man offering to get them on an evacuation flight list. >> you want to leave the country, if you say yes, they
say pay first. i said how we can pay that much money right now? it is only business matters. people are making thousands of dollars per day. >> reporter: this man whose identity we need to hide worked as a contractor for u.s. aid. he is a special interest visa applicant. the kind of afghan citizen the biden administration says they're working to evacuate. >> what is the u.s. doing that you know of to try to get you and your family out? >> unfortunately they are not doing now anything. on the 31st, said everything is closed and finished. we will not receive anything back from the ambassador from any other organization. >> he went online, he found a man named zackary young, one of many advertising evacuations from afghanistan, posting just this week we can deliver. one linked in user posted messages with young where he said it would be $75,000 for a car to pakistan. he told another, 14 and a half
thousand per person to get to united arab emirates or albania, well out of the reach of most afghans. we got his number and called, he didn't pick up. in a text message, he said afghans trying to leave are expected to have sponsors pay for them. if someone reaches out, we need to understand if they've got a sponsor to pay evacuation costs which are highly volatile, based on environmental realities. young repeatedly declined to breakdown costs or say if he is making money. back in california, the young afghan american tells us even though he can't pay, he's still pleading to get his family out. >> i have sent tons of texts asking these people, begging them to evacuate my family. if i am not able to evacuate them in the next two weeks, i think i will lose them all. i think i will lose all my family. >> reporter: that young man told
me the taliban has issued summons for his family, which is in hiding, indicating his father believes that the taliban is really after them. the biden administration continues to work on evacuating people, but there are just so many more that want to leave afghanistan. and that drives the prices higher and higher. in another message, that person offering evacuation, zachary young, wrote availability is extremely limited and demand is high. that's how economics works unfortunately. >> alex marquardt, thank you for that. in honor of veterans day, the white house announced it is taking new steps to help former service members exposed to environmental hazards while on duty, things like burn pits. the biden administration is hoping to learn more about health effects of these exposures and provide better access to health services and benefits to veterans that may have been effected. this is a personal issue for the president. he said that he thinks burn pits
in iraq might have played a role in the death of his son beau who died f brain cancer. with us, someone that's too familiar with this. kate hendricks thomas, behavioral medicine researcher at george mason university. thank you for joining us this morning. you experienced burn pits serving in iraq. what was that like? >> well, the biggest memory that i have is the regular cleanings that we performed of these stand-alone air conditioning units that we had in buildings. when we cleaned out the filters, they would be full of black particulate matter, chunks of gross stuff. we would laugh amongst ourselves about oh, wow, this is what we're breathing in, that can't be good. but we were 25 and invincible at the time. we weren't really concerned. >> kate, you were diagnosed with
breast cancer after your service, despite having no family history with that illness. it was during an annual exam about ten years ago that a nurse told you that based on where you were stationed, they were seeing a lot of veteran women with breast cancer. i am wondering what went through your mind during the diagnosis and then in the three years it took to get your benefits claim approved. >> well, initially when she referred me for a mammogram, i thought i didn't need it. i actually skipped the first appointment because i was so busy and when i went to my appointment and they scheduled me for follow on and eventually diagnosed me with terminal breast cancer, i was in shock. i would say i was in shock for a period of time. i was just very surprised by the entire experience. i immediately applied for
benefits at the va because my oncologist wrote a letter and said we have done next generation sequencing and genetic testing, there's no way she should have this advanced case of breast cancer, were it not result of an exposure. i figured with my oncologist being willing to write a letter like that, va benefits would be forthcoming. i didn't realize i would have a three year fight ahead of me with numerous appeals, numerous additional pieces of information. it was very difficult to get my cancer labeled service connected. >> that must be incredibly frustrating, especially because of the sacrifices and service that you made for the nation. help us understand the importance of the steps that the white house has taken to get veterans like you access to care they need and what else needs to be done? >> well, i think we need a list of presumptive conditions
attached to any bill that moves forward. there needs to be a list of conditions that are very likely result of military exposures, and right now, those lists don't exist for post 9/11 veterans exposed to burn pits. i would say we need presumptive conditions and then we need to be expanding the conversation. i will give you an example. senator boozeman's office put forward the service act. it would lower the age of mammogram screening for women deployed. a woman that's been deployed comes home at 26 or 27 and is going to be referred for a mammogram. so if i had gotten my mammogram earlier, they might have caught my cancer earlier before it was terminal, but that would have required me getting a mammogram probably in my late 20s. so talking about these incidence rates, talking about how at risk veterans are for exposure
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the death toll from the crowd surge at the astroworld festival climbed to nine. another died wednesday after spending days in the hospital fighting for her life. dozens of lawsuits have been filed against travis scott, festival organizers and others involved with the event. while many questions remain unanswered on who should be held accountable. all of this as the funeral for one of the victims is being held this morning. cnn's natasha chen is live from houston following the story for us. natasha, we are learning new details from the fire department about the timeline of what happened that night. what can you tell us? >> reporter: boris, what the timeline shows is that the chaos
began more than 12 hours before these nine fatalities that we're talking about. before we get into the details of that, i want to share what's happening behind us. a lot of people are lined up outside the memorial service for a 16-year-old, brianna rodriguez. she was one of the nine people killed at this event. i did speak with a friend of hers from high school that was with her that night. said they were with a group of friends attending a concert. he held onto her in final moments. he said the last thing she said was "i can't breathe." that's one of the examples of crushing details, horrific details we're hearing from survivors of astroworld. going into the timeline you referenced given to us by houston fire department, i want to show you full screens of an example of some things they logged through the day. starting at 8:15 a.m.
a lieutenant requested riot equipment. you can tell within that hour, there were already people breaching the main gate, second degree checkpoint. there were already medical requests for four individuals, then the venue gates opened at 10:00 a.m. moving on, you see that through the 10:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m. hour, participants kept breaching different check points. by about 4:00 p.m., the third party met imcompetents had reported 54 patients treated since the beginning of the event. only gets worse from there. with 26,000 scanned through security by 5:00, but 3 to 5,000 not scanned. then, 9:28 p.m., quote, this is when it all got real. houston police reporting multiple people passed out at the front of the stage, and finally 9:32: p.m., report of
unconscious female in the crowd. 9:35, five 911 calls of people unconscious. we know at least nine people died now. we know of a nine-year-old boy still in the hospital fighting for his life. if we have time, i want to show one clip of what a survivor said this week about what those moments were like. >> i spent 20 minutes on the ground and there was a girl next to me who is for sure dead. never forget the look of terror on people's faces. there was a girl at one point holding my hand. i didn't know her. i held her hand as long as i could, until i eventually lost her in the crowd. >> a lot of stories like that of people trying to hold onto each other, do the best they could in terrible, terrible circumstances. boris, amara? >> difficult to listen to painful accounts of what happened that night. thank you for that report.
this week, a federal judge gave the final approval for a $600 million settlement for people exposed to water contaminated with lead in flint, michigan. the city declared a state of emergency in 2015 after the epa found dangerous levels of lead which can effect the heart, kidneys, brain and nerves in the water. many in flint are concerned the nine figure sum isn't enough given how many people will have to split the money. joining me, flint mayor sheldon neely. appreciate you joining us this morning. i would like to start with criticism from flint community leaders and others that say the settlement while significant doesn't go far enough. we know a big chunk of it will go to those that were children in the water crisis, another chunk of money to the attorneys. what do you say to those who are not happy with the settlement? >> well, you know, the
settlement, there's never enough money, no amount enough to be able to compensate families negatively impacted. so i agree with that assessment. but there are still three more big large defendants not adjudicated yet, the epa being one of those cases. i want to say the judge's ruling starts the pathway to create the first final steps of trying to resolve this issue for the monetary resolve for these cases. to those individuals, yes, i would agree as flint resident here myself, i would also agree. city of flint is defendant in the case, but there are three more large defendants in this case. so there could possibly be more on the monetized side of this. >> mayor, i have to say last night i was doing research on this story and refreshing the details of what had happened in 2015. my jaw again dropped to the
floor. you also have people that are suffering from permanent health problems as a result of the water crisis, talking behavioral disorder, hearing problems, growth development. we know that lead exposure can lead to these problems. have you spoken with these families recently and what's your message to them who are facing possibly a lifetime of expensive medical bills? >> well, my messaging is yeah, we have to stay committed to those that have been negatively impacted through the crisis as municipality and state and federal government, putting aside money to make sure we can offset anything moving forward for any health crisis they may have for the children or adults. this is a tragedy, nonetheless, can't minimize what has happened in the city of flint. what we can do is move forward, try to make sure we compensate those families accordingly, make sure that they have the
necessary resources available to them and their families to try to help mitigate health challenges. >> and mayor, if you could talk about how you feel. are you confident that those who were responsible or negligent in the water crisis will be brought to justice? i think nine former state officials were charged with crimes, including the former governor, rick snyder. >> i'm not confident that we will get to the final resolve to get justice for those families that they deserve, definitely those individuals have been charged, want them prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for those that had some level of responsibility for this tragedy that happened in this community. flint is a resilient community, nonetheless. this judge's ruling gets us moving in the right direction to try to get to monetized settlement moving. three larger defendants are remaining in this case.
there are dollars and cents that could still come to aid to residents in flint. on the criminal side, attorney general of the state of michigan has made it known that they're going to try to prosecute individuals to the fullest extent of the law. here on the municipal level, we're trying to reestablish a level of competence in government for residents here as we try to remediate the lead problem. we see it across michigan and across the country. with american rescue plan dollars, i think the president is online to make sure this never happens to another community in the united states. but moreover, poorer black communities across our country have a big challenge, you talk about environmental justice or injustice as you saw here, but we're working hard to be able to support these families here with all of the necessary resources we have to bring to bear. >> we wish you all the best and thank you for joining us this
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hello, everyone. thank you so much for joining me. i am fredricka whitfield. we begin with indictment of a key trump ally, steve bannon is expected to turn himself in monday and appear in court to face charges of criminal contempt of congress. bannon, former white house adviser, repeatedly refused to produce documents or appear for a deposition to answer questions