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cost of living. soaring inflation puts the screws to everyday americans. >> everything from a gallon of gas to a loaf of bread costs more and it's worrisome. >> reporter: after months of downplaying rising prices -- >> it's going to pop up a little bit and go back down. >> reporter: what is the biden administration doing now to help? i'll speak to top white house economic adviser brian deese. a chilling message. steve bannon indicted for criminal contempt of congress, a clear message to others refusing to cooperate with the january 6th probe. whom are they trying to protect?
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>> donald trump led nuis a ditch on january 6th. >> exclusive interviews with republican congressmen fred upton and anthony gonzalez in moments. trial and error. race and the criminal justice system on display after a tumultuous several years is justice blind? former chair of the congressional black caucus karen bass joins me to discuss ahead. hello, i'm jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is watching economic anxiety grow. president bide listen celebrate a victory tomorrow, signing the new bipartisan infrastructure bill into law, but as the president her aalds this pleshment, one that a significant amount of american people support he's been running into economic reality according to data from the bureau of labor statistics. as the holidays aproche,
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americans are seeing higher prices on everything from gas to groceries. this week, the president changed his message on the issue acknowledging for the first time it is worrisome and one of the most pressing economic concerns of the american people a response to the political reality a poll from "the washington post"/abc news shows biden's approval rating sinking to 41%, a new low largely because of a negative shift among democrats and independents, as 70% of the american people according to this poll rate the economy negatively, 70%. 63% of the american people think biden has not accomplished much so far. joining us to discuss, brian deese. let's start on this dire inflation report. look at how much prices have risen, regular gas prices up more than 50%, utility gas 28%, used cars, beef, pork, eggs all up, "the washington post" poll shows 70% of those polled viewed
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the economy negatively. 38% say the economy is in poor condition. how concerned are you about inflation and what are you doing specifically to fix it? >> well, inflation is high right now and it is affecting consumers in their pocketbook and also in their outlook for the economy but those concerns underscore why it's so important that we move forward on the build back better legislation, this legislation that the house is going to consider this week. this goes at the cost americans face. this will lower prescription drug prices, put a cap on prescription drug costs for our seniors, child care, not only a big cost driver for families but big impediment for parents and women to get back into the workforce. this bill will cut the cost of child care by more than half and housing, this will build
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affordable homes around the country to make it easier for families to afford housing and also to move to places where the job opportunities are. all of these things go at lowering costs for american families and the bill is fully paid for. it's not going to add to inflationary pressures. quite the opposite. we'll pay for everything in this bill raising taxes on big companies, large corporations and highest income americans. there's an urgency to act. >> nothing you just mentioned assuming that everything you're saying it accurate and comes to pass the way you want, nothing you mentioned would bring down grocery prices, bring down gas prices. take gas prices for a second. is president biden willing to open the strategic petroleum reserve, willing to stop gas and oil exports to aleve nate the gas price issue at the pump?
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>> we are very committed to do everything that we can to make sure that americans consumers don't bear the brount of high gas prices and value tile energy prices. all options are on the table, we're monitoring the situation carefully. we're focused on making sure american consumers don't get taken advantage of. in oil and gas markets because of consolidation we have fewer large companies controlling the market and so at moments like this, there's a real concern of price gouging or market ma nip place that could put consumers, could harm consumers. we've asked the federal trade comission to look at that and the market conditions and engaging internationally with counterparts to make sure other oil producing nations are not taking advantage of the veng of the recovery and actually profiting at the american
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consumer's expense. we're monitoring it closely and will continue to do so. >> you saw the bad poll numbers for the president when it comes to the economy. i don't know how much of a factor this was but president biden publicly acknowledged inflation is worrisome this week. i want to play sound of what you and president biden were saying a few months ago in june. >> by the way, talk of inflation, the overwhelming consensus it's going to pop up a little bit and then go back down. no one's talking about is great, great, you know. >> so the degree people are focused on inflationary pressures in the short term that is not the issue. >> do you think the president is wrong and it's not a short term it will pop up and go back down issue? >> no, i think what we've said consistently the pandemic and economy are interlinked and certainly we saw just as the
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delta variant posed real health challenges to the economy, i add economic impacts, more people were consuming goods at home, watching tv rather than buying a new television, rather than going out to the movies and spending on services so that's added to some of the supply chain challenges we face. we're seeing these price increases in inflation globally because of the supply chain challenges associated with covid. that's why we're going at attacking those issues right now as well. in the very immediate term we're working with ports around the country to get goods moving more quickly through the economy and this infrastructure bill, the bipartisan bill that the president will sign tomorrow is the most significant step that we will have taken in decades to actually invest in the arteries that help move goods more quickly through our economy, more cheaply through our economy and was designed so we can move out quickly on some areas like our ports to try to start providing some relief.
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so we are, have been focused on this issue, we continue to be focused on this issue in the short term and addressing medium term issues as well. >> you talk about the build back better act which is $1.75 trillion as a solution to this problem but your predecessor under president obama, larry summers, he pointed this week to the $1.9 trillion rescue plan passed earl whier in march, that's a major reason behind the rise in inflation, something he called at the time "the least responsible macro economic policy we've had in the last 40 years." is it possible americans are suffering from high prices because the biden administration overstimulated the economy with all of this money going into the economy? >> no, that's not our perspective. the american rescue plan saved us from an acute economic emergency. it's hard to remember but recall when the president took office there were 18 million people collecting unemployment benefits and 3,000 americans a day dying
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but professor summers agrees on the build back better plan that it will not increase inflation and making investments in things like lowering the cost of child care or providing universal preschool will actually improve the productive capacity of our economy. so i think we actually know what we need to do here. we need to make a fully paid for investment that will actually unlock more opportunity, get more people working in the economy and that's where our focus is. >> if you are standing by your statement and the president's statement that inflation is transitory short-lived, when do you think inflation is going to go back below the 2% level considered normal? >> there's lots of independent experts who predict inflation. i think consistent with what you were atalking about before, americans are less interested in predictions and more interested in concrete action to try to
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address these issues. that's what our focus is and the poll that you put forward showed that a significant majority of americans support the components of the build back better agenda because it is oriented toward delivering on the practical cost issues that they face in their lives, housing, health care, child care, transportation. these are things that typical americans are dealing with and solutions that we can provide and action is going to speak louder than words. we recognize that. that's what the american people are looking for and why we are focused on moving this bill through congress and getting this infrastructure bill implemented without delay. >> is build back better going to pass the house this week? >> well, we are confident that it will. we are confident speaker pelosi will bring it up and it will pass this week. we'll move forward in the next process in moving it to the senate. >> is the s.a.l.t. tax deduction, state and local tax deduction in the build back better act? some experts say it could result
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in the wealthiest americans in the states getting a tax break. >> well there's a fix to that issue that is included in the house bill. this was an issue that the trump tax cut, the 2017 tax cut created huge uncertainty in our tax system by capping that deduction for state and local taxes for a couple of years and letting the cap go away completely. what the fix in the house bill would do, provide a long-term higher cap on that issue and so that's in the bill and we expect that will be part of the bill put on the floor and be considered by the house this week. >> brian deese, thanks so much for joining us today. appreciate it. two of my next guests have something terrible in common, they're both republicans and both received death threats over votes they cast in congress that trump didn't like. republican congressmen upton and gonzalez ahead. stay with us. it was no cost to them. >> woman: really?
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today! welcome back to "state of the union." i'm jake tapper. extraordinary new charges this week in the house investigation into the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol. a federal grand jury friday indicted ally to form e president trump steve bannon on two charges of criminal contempt of congress for refusing to appear before the congressional economy and refusing to provide documents. the indictments committee members hope sends a clear message to other trump allies refusing to testify including mark meadows friday ignored a subpoena this week. joining us one of a handful of republican congressmen who supported holding steve bannon in criminal contempt of congress, republican fred upton of michigan and we'll get to bannon in a sec. you heard bryan deese defending
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the white house response to inflation and a successful vote on the build back better vote in the house this week. what do you think? >> well, i'm not at all convinced that the build back better plan is actually going to pass or even be considered this week. i don't think the votes are there yet. a good number of democrats demanded and are going to receive a cbo report as to whether is it really paid for, what does it do when you expand medicare, what does that do to the solvency. joe manchin asked the question about inflation. i can remember talking with larry summers a few months ago, he was very worried about the spending by the congress and what it in fact was going to do to inflation, so somehow i don't think we'll get these answers to necessarily get the, for pelosi to get the votes before the end of the week and we also know that this bill is going to be widely different from what the senate ultimately may do, not a lot of days in the legislative calendar yet.
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we've got the continuing resolution which without an extension would shut down the government december 3rd, not too far away and the debt ceiling extension that expires on december 3rd as well. so there are a lot of hurdles before this thing, before i'll say this turkey really starts to move. >> nice thanksgiving metaphor, appreciate it. on the bannon indictment, other trump allies, former chief of staff meadows, are also stonewalling the committee. would you be willing to vote to hold meadows in criminal contempt of congress? >> well, we'll see what the select committee does. they have to make, they have to decide, they have to move it forward. you know, one of the reasons that i voted to hold steve bannon in comp. ntempt, he didn cooperate at all. the arguments was mark meadows was having his lawyers communicate with the committee. seemed there would be some progress that was going to be made but you know, the former president trump said early on he did everything totally
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appropriate. those were his words. so we got to let the sun shine in, be fully transparent and that means get to the truth, find out exactly what happened. if you stonewall congress, and i'm a former committee chair, i use the subpoena, even the threat of subpoena was able to get people to come testify to give us the facts, so we could go after fraud and abuse, if you refuse to participate in that, all of a sudden you don't really have an equal branch of government trying to get to the answers of this. so for me, i want to see what the select committee will do, see what the recommendation is and take it from there. >> so congressman, you voted for the bipartisan $1.2 trillion infrastructure plan that president biden is going to sign tomorrow along with 12 other house republicans, 19 other senate republicans. trump campaign on infrastructure in 2016 he promised it would be $very bipartisan." that never happened. he's leading the charge against republicans like you who voted for the bill. things are so toxic. you're getting phone calls like
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this one. >> you [ bleep ] traitor piece of [ bleep ] piece of trash, hope you [ bleep ] die, hope your [ bleep ] dies, hope everybody in your [ bleep ] staff dies, i piece of [ bleep ] traitor. >> these are threats coming from conservatives, republicans, you're getting these death threats because you voted to fund roads and bridges and broadband. is it donald trump attacking you? is it marjorie taylor greene calling you a traitor and posting your phone number? what has happened to the republican party? >> you know, it's a sad day. it really is. we all know we have a polarized electorate out there, divided government. this bill that i voted for that president biden is going to sign tomorrow passed 69-30 in the senate, way back in august. it was a blueprint, i'm a member of the problem solvers caucus, a bipartisan group, larry hogan,
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republican governor of maryland hosted i don't know 25, 30 of us back in april, governors, senators, house members, we defined what infrastructure was, what it should be, and actually larry summers was a participant and we all confessed we should pay for it and pay for it without raising taxes and that's what we did with this bill, which was why it received overwhelming support in the senate. lindsey graham, president trump's favorite top republican in the senate, supported this bill when it passed 69-30. we need roads and highways, let me tell you. this was a bipartisan plan. it needed to happen, and i'm glad that we got it past the finish line and we actually took it away, remember, for a little while, it seemed like it was going to be joined with a build back better plan and we cut the cord so that in fact they were separate votes. >> so this all is happening in an era of menace and threats and
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violence. i want to yoyou to listen to an interview done with jonathan karl in march, he appeared to justify or not care about the threats to the life of mike pence on january 6th. take a listen. >> you heard those chants, that was terrible. >> he could have -- the people were very angry. >> they were saying "hang mike pence." >> it's common sense. it's common sense that you're supposed to protect -- how can you -- if you know a vote is fraudulent, right, how can you pass on a fraudulent vote to congress? >> just to remind our viewers, this is the crowd own the chant john karl was asking about. [ chants of "hang mike pence" ] >> how areried are you january 6th was not the climax or end of the new era of violence and menace in our politics but
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perhaps just the beginning? >> well i tell you, obviously i was there on january 6th. i saw the gallows that were constructed on the east front of the capitol. i was not, thank goodness, in the chamber when it was, when they tried to breach it on that fateful day, but i saw the crowd. i saw the crowd move down the mall towards the white house to hear the president's speech and i saw them come back. i talked to the swat team members afterwards, picked up some of the broken glass from the capitol, obviously saw the footage that was there live as i was hold up in my office feeling protected, but it was a really scary day. that violence, i mean, you look at the calls to all of us that voted for the bipartisan bill this last week, the death threats that are there, a couple of arrests i think have been made already with some of my colleagues. we passed along the information
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that's been sent to my office with phone calls and presume we'll get some letters and other stuff here as well, but yeah. it's a tough time and it's so unsettling, you know, this is not what our democracy is about, these physical threats, not only to ourselves, but also to our family members as well as to our staff. it is a sad day in america, when this type of stuff, i've got a better four-letter word for it but i'll save you, when it happens. >> we're not mandated by the fcc, you can curse on our air if you want because we're ablon ca. >> i know, i was chairman of the subcommittee so i know all about it. >> congressman, you just heard john karl asking donald trump about the chants of "hang mike pence" and donald trump's response was, well, the people were very upset. what is your reaction to donald trump seeming to explain and
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justify it all? >> remember, too -- well, you remember the call that you all reported with kevin mccarthy, when allegedly the president, when kevin called the president to tell these folks to back off, and the response from mr. trump was, "i guess they care more about the election than you do, ke kevin," reported after january ofth. >> what is your reaction to that? >> it's not right. it's not appropriate, and it's certainly not totally appropriate as the president said in his own words, in terms of his actions that he took that day. >> quickly before you go, sir, are you committed to running for another term in 2022? >> well, you know, we don't know what our districts look like yet. we're in the midst of looking at maps. michigan loses a seat, we'll evaluate everything probably before the end of the year in terms of making our own decision. we've never made a decision more than a year out.
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>> congressman fred upton, thank you for being with us today. we really appreciate it. >> you bet. your holiday gifts and those sweat pants you ordered might be stuck off the port of los angeles or long beach. is there any way to speed up those shipments? the woman who wants to be los angeles mayor, congresswoman karen bass is next. plus an exclusive interview with another congressman who voted to impeach president trump and his warning about donald trump, coming up. >> man: what's my safelite story? my truck...is my livelihood. so when my windshield cracked... the experts at safelite autoglass came right to me... with service i could trust. right, girl? >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ to be a thriver with metastatic breast cancer means asking for what we want, and need...
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drivers in california are
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now paying more than anyone else in the united states to fill up their tampnks. the average price hit $4.67 this weekend breaking the state record for the highest recorded gas price ever according to aaa. joining us karen bass of california, running to be the next mayor of los angeles. congresswoman always good to see you. the record-setting gas prices in california come as the biden administration has not halted oil and gas exports, not tapped into the strategic petroleum reserve. do you want the biden administration to do more? >> we certainly need to do something. as you mentioned the median price is $4 and in many places it's $5. i know that the oil industry said that one of the reasons for the increase in price was because they had to slow down production because they had to do some maintenance. so whatever, we have got to reduce the price of gas in california. >> is there a specific step you want them to take, opening the
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strategic petroleum reserve, anything in particular? >> i'm not sure. that is certainly one thing that could be done, but i'm kind of more concerned about the oil producers being able to get back online. so they said that it was high because of maintenance, that should be ending soon. so hopefully we'll see some reduction and the administration won't have to intervene. >> bottlenecks are plaguing los angeles in the supply chain. you're running for los angeles mayor. 83 containerships are backed up off the ports of lo angeles and long beach a full month after the biden administration vowed to operate them 24/7. if you were mayor, what would you ask joe biden to do to fix this? >> i'm not sure he can do anything more than the 24/7 right now. we have to deal with the longer term issues, too. we have a workforce issue. we have a lack of truck drivers.
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secretary buttigieg and governor newsome a few weeks ago signed agreements to speed up infrastructure projects in the port, so a lot needs to be done but i'm not sure if anything else could be done right now. you know, they're also charging the folks if they leave the containers offshore too long so aside from those things, i'm not really sure they could do anything right now today. >> speaking of infrastructure, president biden will sign the infrastructure bill into law tomorrow. you push to include a provision that would allow the u.s. government to hire people from the immediate area to work on infrastructure projects in their neighborhoods. are you disappointed that this bill took so long toe pass into law and what might that mean for communities like yours in los angeles? >> local hire is a provision that is really important that we actually had into law in the trump administration removed it. so getting it back in is a big deal. it seems strange you could not give preferential treatment to people that live in the area where the construction projects
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are going through. it's very important in my specific district. we have a major line going through, and so to be able to prioritize the hiring of people in a neighborhood is key, because it's also a neighborhood where unemployment is high. >> you're the former chair of the congressional black caucus. i was wondering what you thought about this trial of the three white men accused of murdering ahmaud arbery in georgia. during the trial this week, a defense attorney made this remark in the courtroom. take a listen. >> if we're going to start precedent starting yesterday, we're going to bring high-profile members of the african-american community into the courtroom to sit with the family during the trial in the presence of the jury, i believe that's intimidating and an attempt to pressure, could be consciously or unconsciously an attempt to pressure or influence the jury. we don't want any more black pastors coming in here. >> we don't any more black pastors coming in here. now the attorney has since
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apologized for those comments but what was your reaction when you heard that in a courtroom in the united states in 2021? >> well, i mean, i think it's despicable but when they were selecting the jury, remember, they selected pretty much an all white jury and then the judge acknowledged that that was a problem, and allowed the jury to be seated anyway. so i think that particular trial is off to a bad start just like the trial of rittenhouse is off to a bad start as well. a year ago we were talking about racial reckoning and it seemed to be an enlightened period and now we've had major setbacks and i think that people understand that you can use race politically. it charges people up. it's highly emotional issue and i think it's just really sad. that trial, the arbery trial is a trial of a lynching, that is exactly what happened in that case, and look at rittenhouse. both of those trials were based in race and i'm concerned about the outcome for both of them.
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>> kyle rittenhouse is a white man accused of shooting three other white men and killing two of them. explain how you think there's a racial dimension to this case? >> remember now, where were the white men killed? at a protest, protesting in solidarity for black folks so to me, it was reminiscent of the civil rights movement when you had young white people that participated in the sit-ins and protests and they were subject to beatings, they were subject to shootings, many of them were killed as well, and it's as though the judge is taking that very lightly. remember, the judge rittenhouse case said you couldn't even refer to the people that were killed as victims. you could refer to them as rioters. here you have a 17-year-old boy who was driven by his mother across state lines with an automatic weapon, frankly, she should have been detained for child endangerment, to go to a protest he said he's going to
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help the police. it was ridiculous. he walks across with his automatic weapon and the police look at him and the majority of the people protesting were african-american but the white men that were killed were protesting in solidarity with the black people. so it reminded me of the civil rights movement. >> just a yes or no on this because we're out of time. is the build back better act going to pass the house this week? >> yes. >> congresswoman karen bass, thank you for your time. appreciate it. i've never gotten only a one-word answer when i asked for one. i appreciate it. coming up, an extraordinary warning about former president trump from a sitting republican congressman, an exclusive interview you will not want to miss, next. they drove to safelitete for a same-day repair. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really? >> tech: that's service the way you need it. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ bipolar depression. it made me feel like i was trapped in a fog. this is art inspired by real stories of people living with bipolar depression. i just couldn't find my way out of it. the lows of bipolar depression
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welcome back to "state of the union." i'm jake tapper. two of the ten republicans who voted to impeach donald trump in january decided their careers in congress are over, including my next guest republican congressman anthony gonzalez who said what led him to break from his party against the big lie that the election was stolen, what he's worried trump is trying to do now ahead of 2024. >> he came very close to overturning an election through various methods. how worried are you the next time he'll be better positioned and undermine democracy? >> it looks to me, and i think any objective observer would come to this conclusion, that he has evaluated what went wrong on january 6th, why is it that he wasn't able to steal the election, who stood in his way. every single american
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institution is just run by people and you need the right people to make the right decision in the most difficult times. he's going systematically through the country and trying to remove those people and install people who are going to do what he wants imhad to do, who believe the big lie, go along with anything he says and again, i think it's pushing towards one of two outcomes he wins legitimately, which he may do or if he loses again, he'll just try to steal it, but he'll try to steal it with his people in those positions and that's then the most difficult challenge for our country. ask you yourself the question do the institutions hold with a different set of people in place? i hope so but you can't guarantee it. >> what do you remember about january 6th? >> i was sitting in the balcony when the session was called to order and i saw the first objection. at that point i threw on my
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twitter and could see people were breaking the line. i peeked out the win toe, saw more people breaking and said i'm going to go back to my office. doesn't look like a good thing. so ultimately, barricaded ourselves in, put some street clothes on in case i had to run for it and luckily i didn't. nobody came in, but it was pretty harrowing. there were tough calls with my wife, tough calls with my family, but the time you don't know how it's going to end. thank god that there weren't more people killed, but at the time, you don't know that. at the time you know there's an angry, violent mob who believes the election was stolen in the united states of america and you're seeing members of congress saying this is our 1776 moment. if that's what people are saying, well of course you're going to have violence and of course you're going to have a riot at the capitol. >> there are people who voted to certify the election who did not vote to impeach. was that the most difficult vote
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of your life or was the certification more tough? >> the impeachment was the hardest vote. in order to get me to vote for any impeachment, i have to believe there was a grave assault on the country, committed by the sitting president, whoever it is, and so it was deeply sad to come to the conclusion that i did, and to feel like i could no longer trust the president of the united states, even for a few days to be the commander in chief of our military. i felt like i had no choice in the matter. i had to do what i felt was right to protect the country. >> you not only put your political career in jeopardy by doing that, you got death threats. >> yes. you know, this will sound weird, and i don't mean it to. it will sound flippant.
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i always expected death threats in this job, so that wasn't a surprise. unfortunately, it happened maybe sooner than i would like and it happened in this way, but that wasn't what made me decide not to run again. it really wasn't. as terrible as those death threats are, right, for me it was more a lifestyle decision for my family and what kind of family life we want going forward. but look, you know, to state the obvious, though i expected death threats at some point in this job, there is no legitimate place for political violence anywhere in this country and the fact that we've seen it and i would argue normalized it over the last two years, sets our country back significantly. it's one of the biggest things i'm worried about. >> there are hopefully republican voters and maybe even some republican leaders watching you right now. what is your message to them? >> two things.
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one, keep the faith. this country's been through a lot. we fought through it and we've persevered. the country as much as i despise almost every policy of the biden administration, and we could talk about that for, you know, six hours, the country can survive a round of bad policy. the country can't survive torching the constitution. we have to hold fast to the constitution, that needs to be the bedrock upon which we build our party and movement. we have to be a party of ideas. we have to be a party of truth, and the cold hard truth is donald trump led us into a ditch on january 6th. the former president lied to us. he lied to every one of us, and in doing so, he cost us the house, the senate, and the white house. i see fundamentally a person who shouldn't be able to hold office again because of what he did around january 6th, but i also
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see somebody who sais an enormo political loser. i don't know why anyone who wants to win elections going forward wants to do that. i don't get it ethically and certainly not politically. if he's the noment know again in '24, i will do everything i personally can to make sure he doesn't win. i'm not voting for democrats, but whether that's find a viable third party or whether that's try to defeat him in primaries, whatever it is, that's going to be where i'll spend my time. >> because you're worried about what he'll do to democracy? >> yes, i don't trust him. january 6th was the line that can't be crossed. january 6th was an unconstitutional attempt led by the president of the united states to overturn an american election and reinstall himself in power illegitimately. that's fallen nation territory, that's third world country territory. nigh family left cuba to avoid that fate. i will not let it happen here. can i stop him? i have no idea. but i believe as a citizen of this country who loves this
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country and respects the constitution, that's my responsibility. >> you just heard from congressman gonzalez, former governor chris christie is also warning the republican party, trying to relitigate the 2020 election could cost them in 2024. so would christie refuse to back trump if trump runs? our interview next.
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christie gave an early doernsment to donald trump in 2016. four years and one insurrection later, have christie's feelings changed? my co-anchor and friend dana bash sat down for a new special
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and talked about their own ambitions and take on donald trump. >> donald trump made it pretty clear he wants to run for president again. would you support him? >> oh, look, i don't know that he's going to run. >> what if he does? >> what if? i have -- >> it's not as if it's a big secret that he's seriously considering it. >> he's seriously considering it. let's see what happens when he does and who he is and what he says and how he conducts himself. >> after everything you described he's done -- >> what i'm saying to you is i'm not going to sit here in 2021 and prejudge all of this. i voted for him in '16 and '20. on election night in '20 i said what he was doing was absolutely horrible and wrong and continued to be. you can draw whatever conclusions from that you want. but in the end in 2021 the idea of making predictions for 2024 is folly. by the way -- >> with all due respect, that sounds like a copout.
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