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how they were able to get away, and it's so important because you want to prevent other inmates of escaping in the same way. we know they escaped from the pulaski county jail in southern georgia. it's two hours or so south of atlanta, much closer to makin. you can see five inmates there all lined up, and those are the five police are looking for right now. about two hours or so from atlanta, they escaped from the jail. that area is a much more rural part of the state there, and they escaped in a white kia van. they were able to get away. there's the information if you happen to be in that area and you are looking to see if that's the vehicle, if you happen to come across them, though, authorities say do not approach them. as you mentioned, fred, they are known to be very dangerous with violent criminal histories. let's take a look at the three facing the most serious charges. you have a williams is guilt
offy home invasion, and another man accused of killing two men, and then one man accused of child cruelty. that's what we know about this moment about those five men. if you see them you are asked to call n call 911 or the bureau of georgia investigations. we know they are armed with two tasers, and they could other weapons. it's important not to approach them. >> is there a feeling they believe all of the escapees are staying together or have they dispersed? >> that's something we are trying to figure out. sometimes in the situations, if they are from the same area people tend to go back to the area they know if they are trying to see a family member or somebody they love.
this is something that we are trying to figure out, where they are from and where they might be going. >> keep us posted. thank you so much. now to washington where president biden is preparing to celebrate his biggest legislative win. tomorrow he will sign into law his $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill during a bipartisan ceremony. $110 billion for roads, bridges and other projects, and $65 billion to expand high speed internet access, and the biggest funding boost for amtrak since it was founded in 1971. but as the president celebrates this accomplishment, rising inflation is threatening the rest of its economic aengenda a help pushing his poll numbers to new lows. >> inflation is high right now and it's affecting consumers in their pocketbook and outlook for the economy. those concerns underscore why
it's so important we move forward on the build back better legislation, the legislation the house will consider this week. this more than anything will go at the cost americans face, and speaker speaker sphroes pelosi will bring it up. >> tell us about the significance of the bill signing tomorrow and how the white house is hoping to get the rest of his agenda through congress? >> it's a big deal. the president just got back here from camp david, and it's what will be a week of momentum building after all the infighting on capitol hill, and this, of course, a big victory for the president, a sign ceremony for tomorrow on monday to sign that infrastructure bill into law. the white house is not going to start there, however. on tuesday and wednesday they
will beat the drum by the president flying out to new hampshire as well as michigan to promote the infrastructure bill, which is very popular out in the country. on friday, the administration hopes the house of representatives will actually hold a vote on the president's other big priority, the social safety net bill which means the administration is trying to move ahead after all of the turbulence of the last few weeks and months. >> ahead of the big signing tomorrow, we are learning about new polling numbers on biden's handling of the economy. >> right. and that poll from abc news as well as the washington post is not good news at all for this president. it shows 39% approving. 47% disapproving of the president's handling of the economy. probably a number of factors in there. i can tell you that this
administration has been holding several meetings a week to talk about inflation and the economy, very deep concerns among aides and the president about what to do. a lot of focus from some aides over the past weekend on the issue of price gouging and how to do something about that, fred. >> joe johns at the white house, thank you so much. while democrats are confident they can pass the president's spending bill in the house, its future in the senate is more uncertain mainly because of moderate democratic senator, joe manchin. he continues to express concerns about the cost of the bill and inflation. joining me to talk more about this is christopher regan. he's the former vice chair of the democratic party in west virginia, and he knows manchin well from when manchin served as of the governor of the state. good to see you, kris. >> thank you. >> what do you make of senator
manchin potentially standing in the way of the passing of the build back better plan, and he dials it back and continues to be concerned about costs? >> i continue to think that he will eventually get to yes on the bill, but as long as the bill has gone on, more and more deals are being made. you are talking about 1.5 to $2 trillion in the package on the move. several weeks ago we talked about how there was money for waste coal, which is the businessman chin is in in the bipartisan infrastructure bill, and he got that. there was recently a toyota investment and he was at the site of a toyota plant talking about how he was going to work
on the deals, and all of those things, the bill eventually has to pass. i still think that he's a yes on the bill, but the inflation headlines give him more to reason to talk about delay and during the delay more deals can be paid. >> a couple steps forward yet another step back. earlier this year you wrote a piece for the atlantic, and in it you wrote manchin has skillfully managed his image to stay viable in a state that went from a democratic to republican majority. he has done that by having a keen sense of what issues and bills are popular at any given moment, and of how he can be seen as being on the right side of those issues for the electorate, no matter which party is in favor of them. how do you see his strategizing on this? this social spending bill is hugely popular across the country, yet, like you just laid
out, he will take a couple steps forward and chip away or get something of what he wants, and then step back and say the latest, like his latest is inflation. is this a good time for the bill of this magnitude? >> i see exactly two steps in the ingredients you are talking about. he will say they brought the total figure down and laying out a lot of markers, and he will talk about the deficit work requirements, all things we associate with the more conservative approach that the republicans have which he thinks will be popular in west virginia, and it has become a very conservative state, and at the end of the day the president's agenda has to go forward, and there's so much in the bill that is helpful to west virginia. the child care provisions,
family leave provisions, and all of those things disprau disproportionally cut -- west virginia has one of the best outcomes it could get, and eventually he gets to yes. >> yes, it could have a sizeable impact on west virginia, and it extends the child tax credit lifting about 22,000 west virginia children above the poverty line, and childcare would be free for any household making $37,000 or less a year, and the paid and family leave would benefit their workers, so how does manchin convince those saying this plan laid out like
that doesn't help them? >> i don't think he will try. remember, the bill is not in the senate yet. he has pointed that out a few times. he said nothing has come over from the house until something happens on this week, and that allows him to position himself in a moderate way, and position himself even closer to republican voters that west virginia has more of than democratic voters, but at the end of the day, this is a bill that he can say now this is something i am for. in particular, including -- also, con saw mating the deals made along the way, and things he can do on the climate provisions to help his own coal business, and those bills -- the bill has to pass for those deals to go into effect and i think he wants that to happen. >> my colleague reported this week that even after some house progressives attacked manchin for his opposition to this bill,
other progressives had been reaching out to manchin behind the scenes to de-escalate the tension. what advice would you give democrats, anyone, including the president who are trying to make a deal with manchin? is there a psychology on how to convince him to get onboard by some other way of making it seem as though it's his idea, as opposed to trying and twist his arm? >> absolutely. i think the de-escalators have it correct there. i was thinking about this this week, and thinking about president biden's approach, because it occurred to me that president biden has been in the senate for the vice president or president for longer than i have been alive, way back in the 1970s, and he knows how to get through the senate and i think he knows what he's doing, and he has pulled manchin closer to him rather than attacked him. when a hard left voice attacks
manchin, he's pocketing that, too. he's going to be like, roll tape on attacks on me from the progressive left that occurred during the buildup to the passage of this bill, and he will say, i'm not a tool of the radical left, remember me? i am the guy that talked about the deficit and i am the guy that thought people ought to be working for their benefits, and that's what is going to play well in west virginia in 2024 if what played well in 2020 is any guide. >> i hear your phone ringing. you officially have become the senator manchin whisperer. people will be calling you on to get more tips on how to manage and work with. >> i have been living with the news of this man a long time, and he has been in the news every since he was elected 15 or 16 years ago. so you pay attention to what he
does and what he might do next. >> thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. still ahead, donald trump's former chief of staff, mark meadows, gave mike pence's aide step by step instructions on how he could overturn the election. that stunning new report, next. ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ why hide your skin if dupixent has your moderate-to-severe eczema or atopic dermatitis under control? hide my skin? not me. by hitting eczema where it counts, dupixent helps heal your skin from within,
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adviser, steve bannon s. to turn himself in to a d.c. court to face contempt, and former white house chief of staff, mark meadows, should take notice. adam schiff says the panel won't waste time if meadows continues to refuse testimony. >> we have been moving quickly to make these decisions and i am confident we will move quickly with respect to mr. meadows, when ultimately witnesses decide
as meadows have that they do not bother showing up, it forces our hand. we will move quickly. >> new details from betrayal, the fourth coming book from abc's jonathan karl so why the committee is so interested in speaking to meadows. meadows reportedly sent a detailed memo just a week before january 6th explaining how to invalidate joe biden's victory in the 2020 election. and zac cohen joins us now. we know pence did not invalidate and did certify the election, but what more are we learning about the role of the players leading up to january 6th? >> that's right, fred. what we are learning here is how mark heameadows, trump's former chief of staff is a key player in the broader plan to overturn the 2020 election. abc is reporting on the new memo that was detailed and put
together by trump's former attorney. pence did not follow the plan, and joe biden is president, as we know, and donald trump continues to push, you know, the theory -- the unfounded theory that the election was stolen. what this data is, it shows how those closest to the president showed the days and minutes leading up to the january 6th riot. >> there was audio of jonathan karl interviewing trump for his book. >> yeah, what is important carl is asking trump about a reported phone call on january 6th, before pence went to the capitol and certified the election results. take a listen. >> there was a report, and excuse my language, go ahead,
that you talked to him and you said you could be a patriot or you could be a [ bleep ]. did you really say that? >> i wouldn't dispute it. >> really? >> what we have here is the former president seeming to claim responsibility -- accept responsibility for the phone call where he attempts to be turning the screws on pence hours before the riot on january 6th, and trying to convince him to overturn the election results, and we know trump went to the rally before the riot took place and again called on pence to do his job. he defended capitol rioters that chanted hang mike pence, and it's showing the former president directly attempting to pressure the vice president to overturn the election on the morning of january 6th, and not
seeing a problem with that. >> how might the select committee use this kind of information? >> really, this memo serves as another document that points to the theory and the case they are trying to make that there was a broader plan directed by trump and his closest allies to overturn the 2020 election. as we stated earlier, mark meadows refused to cooperate with the committee, and they did not appear for the scheduled deposition, and adam schiff says they are going to move quickly to hold him in contempt, and it's a broader case that trump and his closest allies tried to overturn the 2020 election by pressuring mike pence leading up to the january 6th riot. >> thank you. let's talk more about this with a school professor, and he's joining me now. this is jaw-dropping stuff, is it not? now there's new evidence that where there is a direct
correlation between the president pressuring the vice president to invalidate the election, overturn it. how do you see these memos or instructions being used not to just advance the january 6th committee investigation, but is this the markings of a doj criminal investigation? >> we know the department of justice has been investigating what happened on january 6th, and so far it involved lower level players, but it's entirely possible that they will go up the chain. i think the other thing to take from this is a warning sign of what could happen during the next election cycle. these memos are proof of what happened, and the reality is we are seeing signs this was going to play out months before january 6th. i think, fred, you and i talked about it months before january 6th. we saw what the playbook would
be. >> uh-huh. >> this is just evidence the playbook was being executed, and luckily our institutions held and luckily we had patriotic folks that refused, but these issues are not solved. >> right. and it seems like while the ongoing doj investigations, you know, have carried on, you know, and you have not seen anyone being held responsible for these actions, now you have got concrete memos, notations, instructions, and it goes all the way up, you know, to the president putting pressure on his vice president. it would seem now that the january 6th committee might have one avenue or one goal, you know, as congress checking the executive branch, but now it would seem, ross, that the doj
investigations have more teeth because you have something concrete, you have in writing now instructions on how to, while everybody else was, you know, celebrating, ringing in the new year, you had attorneys for the trump campaign who were plotting this course on how to overturn an election? >> yeah, again, we knew that this was in the works. so much of it was happening in plain sight. the playbook in a way goes back actually to 1876, and i won't bore everybody with the details of all that, but in that race, you know, hayes versus tilldon, that was a role where it was the president of the senate, which is the role the vice president now plays, and the question was whether the president of the senate, the vice president could actually make substantive determinations about electoral
college votes. it played out then, and we saw trump take that dispute that happened way back then, and we now say his aides, at least some of them were involved in the process, and we're going to learn a lot more about it and hopefully we are going to do it before the next election cycle, so perhaps congress can act? >> is it this closest that has come into your view of the former president's encouragement, his active participation in trying to overturn this election? >> well, you know, again it certainly fleshes out the story. again, we saw evidence that during the siege on the capitol, there were calls being made to senators to try and pressure them to delay. this plays out the narrative a bit, and, again, so much of it was happening in plain sight, and so much of it was
anticipated. the good part is that it didn't succeed, but, you know, as we saw it had devastating consequences. the question for congress now is getting more of the facts, the department of justice is going to be getting more of the facts, and also for congress, the question is going to be what to do about the electoral count act, which is the source of the ambiguities in the count act where it was the source from the president and his people. >> yeah, it's incredibly complex and alarming. thank you so much. good to see you. >> sure. coming up, nearly $5 for a gallon of gas now, and we are seeing record high gas prices in many parts of the country, and how much more can americans expect to pay out? relief.
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in california today gas prices hit an average of $4.68. cnn's natasha chen is live in los angeles and joining us from a gas station. what are you hearing from folks who are filling up or going part of the way because gas prices are so high? >> reporter: fred, it hurts. it definitely hurts. gas prices have not been this high in california since 2012. the gas station behind me, for
example, no matter what type of gas you are getting, it's more than $5 a gallon. that's not just this station but what you are seeing across the region here. a couple things are going on. one is that the northern california refineries have been affected by severe weather lately, and something californians share with everybody else in the u.s. is the price of crude oil is so much higher these days. if we show this tweet and a graph from gas buddy, an app that tracks gas prices, we have never seen a year like we have in 2021. it has not spiked like that since 2010. we talked to aaa about some of the consumer mentality that could be driving these gas prices. >> this has been a very different autumn season. typically we see the prices at the pump fall after labor day because people have completed their summer vacations, kids are
back in school, but this year people are still traveling and there's a demand for fuel to get to where people want to go. >> people have this pent-up demand since they have been at home throughout the pandemic. we should note that oil production is down 14% compared to the end of 2019, and our colleagues at cnn business report say that's caused in part because we have had a reckoning of environmental impacts by fossil fuels. >> thank you so much for that. it's not just california where drivers are feeling the pain of inflation, so let's bring in the president and ceo of the national women's law center and is joining me right now. so good to see you again. >> great to be with you. >> the last time we had you on the show, you sounded the alarm about taking out child and elder
care from biden's sweeping economic plan, and since we last spoke negotiations over family paid leave went from guaranteeing 12 weeks to four weeks, and we don't know if that will be in the final bill. in your view, you know, why is this policy so difficult for lawmakers to agree on as so many families make some very difficult choices? >> you know, this week is going to be a big week as the house comes back to consider these issues. it really doesn't work to have an economic framework that doesn't include what is happening with women that doesn't take into account our care infrastructure, and paid leave is one of those policies that doesn't only benefit women, it benefits families and our economy, so it's central to the conversation that is happening right now, but it would be a big, big mistake to separate
either paid leave or our care infrastructure generally from our deep economic needs and concerns with today. >> yeah, you are essentially saying you can't have one without the other, and it really should be a package of consideration. janet yellen told cbs that economic recovery depends largely on women in the workforce. take a listen. >> what does the economic recovery look like without paid leave nsa i think we will still have an economic recovery that will be strong and, you know, support ongoing growth. but labor force participation for -- particularly for women has been a problem in the united states now for sometime. when you compare the united states with other developed countries, a big difference that stands out is a lack of support for people working. >> right. >> and particularly for women.
>> so would four weeks of paid leave, you know, be enough in your view to see women returning to work? >> we see the four weeks of paid leave as really a start. it's starting to have this national paid leave program is a huge and important step. is it enough and everything that we have been striving for? no. but together with things like child care and things like support for home care, it would be a huge boost. the thing that i do know is that doing nothing is also a decision. it's a decision with huge costs that would largely be bourne by women as individuals and more broadly. >> tomorrow is a big day at the white house. president biden will be signing the infrastructure bill, and they are optimistic the house will pass the build back better
plan this week. how crucial are these bills to you when it comes to families? >> so it's a huge deal they came together and passed the infrastructure plan. i hope people are reminded in doing it that this means that they can do big, important things for this country, but the work is not done. the care infrastructure that was so deeply broken even before this pandemic needs a solve and that solve is a part of the build back better bill. they can get it done. >> thank you so much for being with us. appreciate it. >> thanks. coming up, a new warning of a potential covid surge this winter as numbers across the country are ticking back up. of energy is lower carbon. and to get there, the world needs to reduce global emissions. at chevron, we're taking action.
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today the u.s. surgeon general is warning the u.s. could face a winter covid surge. >> we should be prepared for the fact that there may be an uptick in cases that we see in various parts of the country with cold weather, but what held true for the last year is still true is that vaccines give you a high degree of protection especially against the worst out comes of the infection, like hospitalizations and death. >> holding on to half of the growth from this year's latest surge has some health care
experts concerned about the new waive of new cases. good to see you, dr. claiborne. i love the new short hair cut. this is my first time seeing you. how is the baby? >> the baby is doing great, fred. thanks for having. >> fantastic. now down to business. you heard the surgeon general say we had to prepare for this. what are your concerns? are doctors and hospitals ready for this? >> people have to remember, fred, a lot of our hospitals are still over extended, and there's a national nursing shortage which i feel every day when i go to work in the emergency department, and i have seen a decrease in the number of covid cases, but as winter approaches and people go indoors and we are dealing with cold and dry air, there's possibly going to be a surge in covid cases, and people need to remember how dangerous that can be if you are unvaccinated. as the surgeon general recommended, the name of the game is to get everybody
eligible to get a vaccine and if you are eligible for a booster, to get a booster. >> we are on the eve of the holidays, and people want to get together. do you feel like people are making plans to be as cautious and vigilant as possible, or do you worry that people have become complacent? >> i worry people are complacent, and people had pandemic fatigue, and if you did not get to get together last year with your family you are looking forward to having more access to get together with the loved ones, and that comes as a price especially if you are unvaccinated. i encourage people who are considering travel to make sure they are doing the basics to protect yourself, and wear a mask and be vaccinated and have a plan everybody can agree on to be as safe as possible.
>> so true. the cdc says 140,000 american children have lost either a primary or secondary caregiver to covid, so how does this impact communities of color in a more significant way? >> this is something that has been devastating or hit home for me. last week i had a father come in with a 2-year-old child that had a mild respiratory illness that was not covid, and he told me he was recovering from covid and his wife died two weeks prior from covid-19, so he was one of those people who now is a single father trying to care for a daughter and just navigate this. i think people have to pay attention to the fact that these covid deaths are not just a number that exists at one point in time. this reverberates in the life of hundreds of thousands of children across the world for their entire life and it does disproportionately affect those communities of colors.
in native americans, it's 4.5 times more likely for them to be or or funned. it's not just for ourselves but everybody in our community that will feel those consequences. >> the threat is not behind us, we are still in the middle of the threat as you just underscored for us. i am talking about the actor, celebrity, mr.t. he just tweeted out this weekend that he got his covid booster shot. he's a cancer survivor. from your point of you as the battle continues to get more people vaccinated and get their booster shots, and how important is it to get a buy in from celebrities and athletes and others particularly on social
media to help persuade people who continue to hold out? >> i think athletes and entertainers can have a positive impact on our communities of color, by spreading good information and letting people know how they can get resources. in january of this year president biden formed the presidential covid-19 equity task force and they recently came out with a number of recommendations to address the health disparities, and one of them included a permanent structure for addressing health equity. it's great i think the government is stepping up to address these issues, and as a african-american female, i have to step up to the plate and protect our own community, because we are the ones that can best prepare each other for going into a winter season, and part of that is by sharing good information, and a lot of times it's paying attention to what
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