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you are live in the "cnn newsroom." i'm jim acosta reporting from new york. breaking news. moments of panic at one of the world's busiest airports. the scene in atlanta a short while ago. sound of gupfire breaks out sending passengers ducking to are cover in the security line. >> get over here. get over here! >> get down! >> get over here. >> minutes late authorities determined thankfully it was an accidental discharge, no injuries. atlanta airport tweeting a short
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while ago, not an active shooter. accidental discharge at the airport. no danger to passengers or employees. an investigation ongoing. more will be published on this channel. right to nadya romero on the phone. a live picture of hartsfield airport right now pap . a frightening few minutes. at a very busy airport we all know. what are you learning about the accidental discharge the airport is calling it? are the. >> reporter: a lot a now sayingt was an accidental discharge, but that information did not get to the passengers soon enough. there was plenty of people who panicked and still plenty of confusion right now with people trying to figure out exactly what happened and how it affects them. people who are still inside, passengers, who are not being able to move. they're trying to figure out where they can go.
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can they leave the airport? can they doconnect to their flight? will there flight be canceled? so many questions. the ground-stop has been lifted. a great sign at nation's busiest airport. finally now flights are starting to take off again. we saw a standstill, really, traffic just inching along as people were trying to pick up and drop off passengers. that is now starting to move again. cell phone lot completely full of people. people parking in the right lane on the side of the road trying to get word what they should do next. that is all starting to move. probably hear a plane taking off behind me. another good sign here. plenty of confusion. i was speaking to people inside. my in-laws weren't able to get any information. they didn't get a lot of
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information. people started finding out what was going on ob social media and, jim, as you know as well as anyone else, social media isn't always accurate. a lot of incorrect, inaccurate information on social media that spurred some of that confusion inside the airport. jim? >> yeah. no question about it, nadya. this is the busiest travel time of the year. we're heading into the thanksgiving day holiday coming up in a few days from now. obviously the parent's going to be packed with people and to have something like this happen, you know it is obviously going to grind things to a halt for a little while. even though there's no active threat to the public now. this will have, i assume, a huge impact on travel in and out of that airport. had a ground stop at hartsfield that impacts flights and airlines potentially around the country a little while now? >> reporter: hi, ken. >> nadia, can you hear me?
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>> reporter: hi. this is isabelle. can you hear people? >> lost nadia but cnn news source reporter isabella salas joining me now on the phone. pick up on the conversation we just left off with nadia. obviously, a chaotic situation there at the airport finally getting back to normal, but isabelle, you were on a plane when you heard an announcement by the pilot on your plane. tell us what happened? >> reporter: yeah. the pilot out of the blue just said, hey, folks. you might notice we're not going anywhere. reason for that is that there was an active shooter, and for your safety and everyone's safety we're not going to let you off of this plane until we figure it out. figure what is going on. obviously, thank god it didn't turn out to be an active shooter whatsoever but the damage is pretty much done, jim. massive panic and confusion. i'm at the terminal where it happened and they're essentially herding everyone out of the terminal. massively pack crowded in the
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middle of a pandemic mind you. everyone told to leave the airport and go right through security again to make sure the area is safe. we're seeing people elbow to elbow, children crying. some people cursing, emotions getting hot. people elbowing their way through trying to figure out what's going on and not getting any sort of answer right now. right now it's a wait and see, and i understand they're allowing planes to go again. from what i see on the ground, i don't see how. there's people all over the outside of the airport. there's no baggage operating. people are just waiting, confused, trying to log on to the news to figure out what the heck is going on. >> yeah. isabelle, sounds like hartsfield, at least a portion of hartsfield is at a screeching halt, much of their operation there's. if they are rescreening passengers through security, that means they cannot, i guess, get a handle on whether or not during this panic some folks might have gone through the security line or mixed in with
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people who weren't all the way through the security line and they've got to rescreen everybody to make sure that everything is safe in the terminal. >> reporter: right. >> what can you tell us about the flights? are you starting to see delays show up on these flight boards around the terminal? what's happening on that front? >> reporter: i am seeing no flights whatsoever going out. i did manage to catch the board through all the massive confusion. again, it's like a big crowd of people being pushed forward almost like a concert. just massive confusion. you're being carried by the crowd and now a lot of people are just outside here smoking, talking to each other. trying to figure out what they're going to do. how they can get home. what's going on with their flight. right now i just don't see in all of this massive confusion how people are getting anywhere, jill. obviously, a major artery, this airport. who can imagine the domino effect this will have on other flights and other millions of
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passengers around states. >> exactly right. we know, hartsfield is a major hub for delta air lines. lots of flights going in and out of there. if thing, coming to a halt for a while as they sort this out that will have an impact on flights across the country. thanks for that report. we'll stay on top of it. joining us for more on this is cnn national security analyst julia chaim. looking at a live picture, tower cam of hartsfield. showing to viewers. looks like some planes aren't moving around. i saw one take off a moment ago. perhaps things are getting back to normal there. >> yes. >> this weekend has already broken the record for holiday travel. atlanta airport says not an active shooter. this was an accidental discharge. we don't know what that means at this point. so when you watch the video, what do you see and think happened here? >> a couple things. first of all this was an accidental discharge at the security screening area, as i've said the last hour.
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not a question of gun rights. no right to come to the other side of a tsa screening with any gun. it has to be disclosed, in a separate container and has to be checked. so someone either forgot that they had a gun -- that does -- that seems surprising. or don't know if nunsomeone tri to get a loaded gun through. a loaded gun got past security. people like me look at this as good news. the system's -- this isn't working. >> you're breaking up a little. sorry. i didn't mean to cut you off. keep going and we'll see if the signal clears up there. >> okay. so the other thing i guess i could say and should turn off my phone is i've been in touch with security personnel in atlanta. they expect they'll return normal operations within the next hour. that's how these things work. you have a blip. you have to respond. then you quickly get the systems
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back up and running. so maybe they're ambitious to think the next hour but the fact that you're seeing airplanes beginning to take off suggests they're able to limit this investigation to a certain area. this is a kind of thing that happens when, when you have disruptions. you need to close systems down. you need to have al review. we call them no regreets review. probably they are putting people through security again. you just want to be careful. there's no harm in delays at this stage. and then get people moving out. >> all right, julia, thanks for those insights. we're going to iron out the wrinkles in your senate and come b back -- signal and stand by. nadia joining us from the airport. pointing out to viewers, we're not sure how this accident's discharge occurred just yet, unless you have brand new information. we don't exactly have that at this point. that's how the airport is
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describing what occurred before this panic broke out in the terminal, but now that we've gotten you in front of the camera, give us the latest. what do you know? >> reporter: jim, that's the big question. right? how did someone get a gun inside the airport that seemed to have been loaded, if it was accidental discharge, what does georgia lay in regards to that? one of the big issues when we look bat at the situation, but we're still in the middle of the situation of all of these people at the airport trying to come and go as normal. you mentioned tsa says this has been the busiest travel period since the pandemic began. and now you have people who are trying to connect to their flights, trying to take off on flights and just trying to land and move, and go go ahead safely if they're final destination was, in fact, here in atlanta. behind me i've been able to see some of those planes, those flights, taking off. which is a great sign, because during that ground stop, we didn't see any movement in the air or on the ground.
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there are so many people who are trying to pick up and drop off passengers, that was add a standstill. think of the worst traffic you could possibly see around this airport. and that's what we experienced just 20 minutes ago. the cell phone lot was completely full. you had people on the right lane parking their cars, not sure what to do. we know that the airport employees inside of the terminals were given very limited information to passengers trying their best not to scare them, but that let's people's minds wander. this idea, this rumor there was an active shooter happening, that went, like wildfire through the airport especially because everyone has a cell phone. log and social media where misinformation can quickly travel as we know in this and many other cases, jim. that's what happened here in atlanta. people were frantic so afraid. who were trying to figure out what was going on and then callincall calling loved ones.
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hopped in their cars headed towards the airport causing more of a traffic congestion. still in the middle of this trying to figure out the details. it's still ongoing. >> shows viewers, you see right outside the security checkpoint some of those security rope lines have been toppled over. i suppose people were just running at one point. we have other pictures that show folks out on the tarmac next to where the airplanes are parked at the, at the sky bridges. and then on top of that, we have pictures that show just empty corridors inside the hartsfield terminal. i mean, sounds like this just really knocked this airport on its knees for a little while there. na nadia? art absolutely did. different groups's people. some told to shelter in place. hit the ground. hiding. because they heard gunshots, and were afraid of an active shooter
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situation. unfortunately it's happened too many times in this country. so people reacted with fear and trying to protect themselves. then you had another group of people getting off a flight, getting on to the train system. not familiar with the atlanta airport, there is a well thought out very convenient train system to get you from one concourse to the other. otherwise you're walking about a half an hour to get from one gate to the next group of gates. right? so you take the train. people on the train were told there is an emergency. you have to get off the train. go upstairs to the escalator and just wait. they were just waiting with hundreds of other people with airport staff holding them back, preventing them from moving or leaving. when people's movement is restricted that causes a lot of question. people hopped and social media and that spurred a lot of rumors what was going on. that's still happening right now. few people are able to move about the airport, because there's just so much confusion. you have so many people that have different plans.
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some people need to doect their flights. some people are trying to get to the baggage area to get their bags and enjoy their time somewhere in atlanta. others just arrived at the airport. there's also this question of how many of them will be rescreened and what will happen to release people and to move about freely within the airport. jim? >> yeah. such a chaotic situation. the good news, airport authorities are telling us that this was an accidental discharge. calling it an accidental discharge. obviously we'll keep asking questions trying to get to bottom of that but no active shooter at the hartsfield-jackson international airport in atlanta. busiest airport in the nation. causing just so much confusion, so much chaos for people there. we'll stay on top of it. move on to other stories. nadia romero, thank you. stay with cnn as we follow breaking news of an accidental discharge out of atlanta airport and more news in just a moment. and more news in just a moment. we'll be right want.
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chaosen folded at the atlanta airport ar gunfire rang out. impression of an active shooter. the woman who took the pictures, join meese on the phone. thanks so much for being with us. you were in the terminal. i'm told you hid inside a tgifriday's or something like that? what did you see? >> just sitting at restaurant and all of a sudden saw a bunch of people start running down the main hallway of the t terminal and thought they were late for a flight. then more and more running, screaming, somebody stopped said there's a shooter, you need to go. we were in the restaurant didn't have easy access, went with the staff into the back of the restaurant where we hunkered down with their staff and a
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couple other patrons the whole tim time. >> were you told at some point there was an active shooter? >> another passenger. nobody official. never saw or heard anything official, just chaos and responded to it. while we were back there i literally hop and social media and started to see what i could find. what people were able to see from the outside, but it was pretty much information blackout. we didn't know anything. >> what's the airline saying? are you hearing from anybody at your airline about what happened? >> no. we were fortunate. one of the other patrons at the restaurant was a delta employee and shared the intent was for flights to resume if possible. other than our departure time updated via the app, we haven't heard anything. >> i can't imagine what that was like. going through what everybody went through at that time. taking pictures of the folks on
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the tarmac next to where the jet bridges are that lead you from the terminal and gates into the planes, i mean thashs is a pretty stunning image right there. do you know what you were looking at? i suppose just telling people not just, not to go back into the airport, but to go down those staircases next to the jet bridges? i can only guess that, because looking at the picture here. what can you tell us? >> when we were in the restaurant, we didn't have a direct path out of it, the may hallway, but saw people being ushered out. whether it was officials or just people taking it upon themselves i'm not sure. nerve her to leaven terminal, the first ones back out on it and see everybody sitting out there. being directed, i guess. >> all right. erica seidler thanks for getting the pictures for us. glad everybody is okay and we'll stay on top of the story. appreciate your time. >> thank you so much, bye-bye. take another quick break and right back in just a moment. (shh shh shh) don't pta meetings end at 9?
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all right. this just in. looking at live pictures of hartsfield-jackson atlanta international airport. there was an accidental discharge of a firearm within the last hour or so. that's according to airport official it's. we're learning in just the last few minutes and all-clear has been given by authorities at the airport, and so we're obviously going to stay on top of it but told by airport officials they're trying to get back to normal operations in a few minutes. passengers wondering what's happening with their flights
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seek out airline officials to figure out what is happening with those flights. meantime to other news -- fresh off his acquittal kyle rittenhouse is speaking out, yes, already. the 18-year-old at center of ap upcoming fox news documentary the trailer debuted op tucker car carlson's show last night. >> the jury reached the correct verdict. self-defense is not illegal i believe they came to the correct verdict and glad everyone went well. a rough journey but made it through it. >> they it an embedded recording. country watched at rittenhouse learned he had been acquitted of all charges in the shootings of three people. two who died in kenosha, wisconsin. overnight in portland declaring a riot. forcing open gates to the
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downtown county jail and threw objects to police in new york. shut down traffic across the brooklyn bridge. tonight the national guard is on standby in kenosha. cnn son the scene in kenosha right now. what can you tell us? what is the rittenhouse defense team saying about this bizarre tucker charlesen documentary t -- tucker carlson documentary coming out? >> reporter: look, you could kel from mark richards, the attorney. i spent a lot of time covering him. he's a straight shooter. about doing the law, doing cases and defending clients. he wasn't ultimately happy they were there but had to do it because the people funding the defense wanted it and ultimately why they did it and rittenhouse in this interview with the tucker carlson talked about the nights he had to think about
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this. >> once you get to sleep your dreams about what happened and waking up in a dark, cold sweat. you know? >> you had dreams about it? what happened? >> every single night. it's quite scary, actually, because the dreams feel so real, and they're not the same at all. they're all different. they're the different scenarios that run through your head during the daylight. what could have happened. like -- i'm alive, but what could have happened. >> reporter: toss to it? then obviously we also heard from kyle rittenhouse's attorney mark richards yesterday talking about the decision to allow these cameras. take a listen. >> i did not approve of that. i threw them out of the room several times. i don't think a film crew is appropriate for something like this. but the people who were raising the money to pay for the experts and to pay for the attorneys
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were trying to raise money and that was part of it. >> reporter: some of these, jim, some of the crews and people doing this were inside the courthouse and footage on the third floor where kyle rittenhouse was kept for security reasons, had a security team kept away from the public. given access through the back area. go upstairs add captured that footage as well in this documentary. >> all right. shimon shimon, appreciate it. president biden weighing in urging the nation to abide by the verdict. >> i just heard a moment ago. >> do you have any reaction? >> i didn't watch the trial. so i -- >> do you stand by your past comments -- [ inaudible ]. >> look, i stand by what the jury has concluded. the jury system works and we have to abide by it. >> but others on both sides of
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the aisle were watching making feelings known loud and clear. here's republican congressman madison cawthorn in a video. >> kyle rittenhouse is not guilty, my friends. you have a right to defend yourselves. be armed, be dangerous and be moral. >> be armed and be dangerous. on the screen offers kyle rittenhouse an internship. the democratic side congressman eric swalwell said be pissed about the bias led to the rittenhouse verdict and blame the filibusters helping to write those laws. congressman thanks for joining us. emotions running high obviously after the verdict was read. but i have to say, a lot of legal experts are actually not surprised by this verdict. apparently the burden for the pro prosecution to prove there wasn't self-defense, that is a very difficult case to make for
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prosecutors in these kinds of cases. as a lawmaker, what are your thought on this and what are you going to do to try to change the system you were talking about in that tweet? >> thanks, jim. you know, two people are still dead. somebody who provocatively drove across state lines with an assault weapon as a minor walks free. that should upset people. president biden's absolutely right that we have to respect the jury system, but that doesn't mean we can't do all we can to try and change the laws that allowed a provocative self-defense to be read to the jury away for mr. rittenhouse to go free and to have a bias judge essentially steer the outcome in part. when i connect the filibuster, jim, i mean it's state legislatures that decide the laws in each state, and states like wisconsin had almost unrestricted weaponry just as many states around them. so if we want to make sure we don't have laws like this that
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would allow someone to act so provocatively as mr. rittenhouse did we have to care at every level. not just the presidency, senate and house. we also need to make sure that the senate reforms the filibuster so that state legislatures can't rig outcomes where they have very partisan gerrymandering. that's the straight line between the filibuster and seeing in many states many watered down gun laws. >> what did you make of, just ask you one more question on the rittenhouse case. what do you make of tucker carlson embedding a documentary or film crew with rittenhouse throughout this trial? what did you think of that when you heard about that? >> i agree with rittenhouse's lawyer. this was a murder trial. two people are dead. it's not entertainment. and tucker carlson is entirely about entertainment that cites violence. he's like the republican party. more comfortable with violence
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than voting. so you see tucker carlson promoting a mass shooter. you see paul gosar in the house, you know, promoting a video that takes on president biden with a threat and kills my colleague alexandria ocasio-cortez defended by kevin mccarthy. the republican party today is a vigilante, violent party and we have to make sure going into the midterms voters understand what going with them would look like in the next comes years. >> let's play with gosar and mccarthy what they both said. house minority leader kevin mccarthy said about all this and we'll get your reaction. >> i voluntarily took the cartoon down not because itself was a threat but some thought it was. if i must join alexander hamilton first person attempted to the censured by this house, so be it. under the pelosi president all member ice mentioned earlier will need the approval of a
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majority to keep those positions in the future. >> what did you think when you heard that? >> again, i didn't hear an apology from mr. gosar or kevin mccarthy condemning it saying we shouldn't have violence in the house. instead i heard, well, if you're going to remove our members for acting violently we'll use retribution to remove yours. americans detest chaos and want law and order. without that we are lost are and again we see one party embracing violence and another party trying to embrace and expand access to voting rights. >> are you worried about losing any of nor yt assignments if kevin mccarthy become the next speaker and what did you think of, you know, this news that came out in the middle of this past week where he made it sound as though marjorie taylor greene, people like marjorie
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taylor greene, paul gosar, could get their committee assignments back. >> mccarthy said probably promoted and have better committee assignments. no. i'm not worried, jim. i'm going to keep doing my job and kevin mccarthy and tucker carlson smeared me for many years with falsities and my constituents, my family, the american people know the truth. that's why we have to make a clear. we delivered on build back better, the president signed the law this week and republicans divide. end of the day, a pretty winning message. >> ask you about january 6th. this man qanon chairman sentenced to 41 months in prison in connection with the attack at the capitol. his lawyer offered this message to former president trump. pretty salty but we'll play it for viewers. >> i would say probably far more effective over, with former
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president trump and tell him, you know what got a few [ bleep ] things to do, let me clear lis [ bleep ] mess up and taking care of the jackasses you [ bleep ]ed up. >> ever see accountability for donald trump? seeing accountable for people like the qanon shamant. that's not preventing another insurrection from happening? rnlgtsz i'm doing my part. i have a lawsuit against donald trump in d.c. court for inciting and aiming the mob at the capitol and in the house you're seeing accountability in that his enabler steve bannon has been held in contempt, arrested earlier this week and i imagine any others that refuse to show up will meet the same outcome. the important while republicans want to use violence that we really make sure that the rule of law works and that there's this cascade effect of the rule of law and rulings will come down on donald trump, because
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that's the best shot we have at saving our democracy. >> all right. congressman eric swalwell. had to delay you a little with breaking news top of the show but thanks for hanging in there and dropping by. appreciate it. >> muy pleasure. >> all right. thanks. update you on the breaking story we're following. accidental discharge at the atlanta airport causing panic and chaos. how the atlanta airport is describing it. we're trying to get the latest information on that to bring to yo it to you. all-clear given moments ago. we're monitoring all this and bring you the very latest, and we'll be back in just a moment. they give 'em their money back. wait, they take the car back? that's crazy! what if it was driven by like a zookeeper? or a mud wrestler? or a guy who's on the outs with the missus and he just needs a place to sleep for seven days? yeah. (vo) buy your car online. love it or return it. with carvana.
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we want to take you back to atlanta for a brief moment to get you up to speed what's happening at hartsfield-jackson international airport. earlier this afternoon there was an accidental discharge of a firearm of some sort. according to airport officials it caused this panic obviously in one of the security checkpoints. we understand the main security checkpoint. you can see the rope lines just knocked over there as passengers were scrambling at that moment. airport official it's assuring people this is not an active shooter situation. the situation is over. that an all-clear has been given and they are trying resume normal flight operations at the airport. meantime, we're waiting to see if those flight operations get
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back up and running, the way they should be, on a saturday right before thanksgiving. they assure us at the airport they're doing everything possible to get passengers on those planes and off to their destinations to see their loved ones for the holidays. we'll stay on top of it. an airport official joins us top of the hour. we'll press for new details on all of this in just a little bit. stay tuned for that. meantime, former president trump is praising house minority leader kevin mccarthy for giving the longest house speech on the floor temporarily delayed it. democrats passing president biden's social and economic climate bill whr. >> when i look at this bill, it angers me. we are so better than this! you are spending so much money. never before. we spent less defeating hitler, mussolini and japan than you're
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spending tonight. we spent less but it cost us lives. and you're celebrating it. >> and that went on fore8 hours 32 minutes. mccarthy rifted on erlg from baby creators and sandwiches to school hout rock and abraham lincoln to the delight of the former president saying, what it says. great job by kevin mccarthy setting a record going over eight hours on the house floor to oppose communism. it's not,i obviously. never forget what democrats have done highest level of evil. mitch mcconnell thought you would have a different republican president. when trump says that if mcconnell helped him overturn the election results and carry out some sort of coup, which thankfully did not occur. joining me now, former republican congressman from florida francis rooney. thanks for joining us. appreciate it and know the
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former president loves a spectacle. do you think it was a mistake, though, for republicans to vote almost in lockstep basically in lockstep altogether against this legislation that includes a lot of popular things like paid family leave, university prek, billions to fight climate change? what are your thoughts on that? >> well, there are several things i think. first of all, the economy is really doing well. we have millions of unfilled jobs. so you've got to say, how many money do we really need to spend on safety net programs given the situation that we face. on the other hand, i'm really glad to see early childhood development money, because i think the studies show what happens to a child in the first 6 to 10 years is critical to the outcomes we'll see later from the child. that's a good thing. i would also rather see, included, some focus on fraud and earned income tax credit program, which has been documented to have massive
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amounts of fraud. no one wants to talk about that. just want to throw more money at it. >> hmm. and we're showing some of the items in that build back better bill on the screen right now. it is sweeping legislation. back to kevin mccarthy. everybody knows how much he wants to be speaker of the house, still wanted to be when you were still in house of representatives yet he bends over backwards to please trump and then trump's allies, former white house chief of staff, mark meadows, float ideas like donald trump becoming speaker of the house. let's listen. >> i would love to see the gavel go from nancy pelosi to donald trump as -- talking about melting down. people would go crazy. as you know you don't have to be an elected member of congress to be the speaker. wouldn't you see -- she would go from tearing up a speech to having to give the gavel to donald trump? oh, she would go crazy. >> congressman, what's your
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response to that? >> i read that this morning and couldn't believe it. our entire party is suffering from what i would call a trump domination syndrome. the leaders of our party sycophantically going to see trump and soliciting his views. the inability to be reasonable about people like paul gosar and about the 13 that voted for the infrastructure bill, i think that damages us in the long run. you know? for the time being, okay. looks like we're doing pretty well. largely because of the radical left. not because of what we're doing. but long run, we have serious problems in our party. we need to focus on the things that our party's supposed to stand for like free enterprise and capitalists. like limited government. not excessive expending. which we did before the democrats took over just as much as they have now. so we can't blame them as much as we can also blame ourselves. >> and i want to play something
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we talk about, language right out of the trump playbook. play a moment for you from a contentious confirmation hearing in which senator john kennedy of louisiana suggested that biden's nominee to >> i don't mean any disrespect. i don't know whether to call you professor or comrade. >> oh my goodness. senator, i'm not a communist. i do not subscribe to that ideology. i could not choose where i was born. >> what did you think when you saw that? i mean, it's just, it was just an awful moment, i thought. >> yeah. you know, i think that she's written some pretty incendiary things and she's said some pretty incendiary things about
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free enterprise and how she'd like the federal government to control -- i've been to kazakhstan many times. i was there when the sultan took over. he was wandering around the halls trying to find his office. they were reeling from the years of soviet domination and they've turned around to create a reasonably capitalist country, which is also a strong ally of the yiet now. >> congressman, as you know, my father is a cuban refugee. if you flee a communist country and come to the united states, i mean, that is the ultimate american story. people come here, they want to make a better life for themselves. their families and of course they're going to reject communism totalitarianism if they're fleeing those countries. doesn't make any sense.
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>> i agree. i think this lady's tostory is story of moving to the united states for people who have moved to the united states, just as you described, but she has written some incendiary things about the role of the public and private sector in the banking system and those i think should be questioned and she should clarify where she stands on that. i believe a private sector banking system is better than a state controlled one. >> yeah, but i mean, i guess, you know, this is where i have a little bit of a problem because you know, somebody writes something in their past. does that make them a communist and you're calling them comrade in the congressional -- >> i agree. that's going way too far. that's not what i'm insinuating at all. i'm saying she should be held accountable for what she wrote and explain it in non-incendiary terms. i don't think she's a communist. if she were, she'd still be there where she was. >> to me, when you come from a
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country like the soviet union or cuba or china, you're coming here for a better life and i mean, 99.9 times out of 100, you are not at all interested in adopting those views and bringing those to the united states. it's just, it's an atrocious comment, but a sign of the times. we appreciate you calling some of this out for us. thanks for coming on this afternoon. appreciate. >> thanks for having me. >> all right. we'll take a quick break. we'll be right back. was so bad i would be in a lot of pain. i was unable to eat. it was very hard. kimberly came to clearchoice with a bunch of missing teeth, struggling with pain, with dental disease. clearchoice dental implants solved her dental issues. [ kimberly ] i feel so much better. i feel energized to go outside and play with my daughter. i can ate anything. like, i don't have to worry. clearchoice changed my life.
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nasa is about to launch a new telescope that it hopes will answer questions about the universe and whether there's life on other planets. the new cnn film will provide a look at this ground breaking mission and the controversy
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around it. cnn's jason carroll reports. >> we're going to enter a completely new part of the observation space. >> the next generation scientists effort to peek at galaxies far, far away is the james webb space telescope. once launched next month, it will turn its eye to distant stars in search of earth like planets. while scientists are excited about what is to come, they're also divided over the telescope's name. >> we have something new. the woke leading the blind. >> at issue, whether or not james webb deserves to have his name on the telescope when nasa in the '60s and is credited for his role in building the apollo program, but some are calling out his tenure during the so-called lavender scare. it started in the 1940s when the u.s. government rooted out guy civil servants and fired them.
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webb served as under secretary of state during that time and his critics say he didn't do his part to stop it. >> do you think you'll ever get to the point where you'll use the name, webb, and not think about the history behind it? >> yeah, probably not. >> sarah tuttle is one of four scientists who penned an op-ed titled the james webb space telescope needs to be renamed. >> he was still the administrator while his head of security picked up someone from jail and targeted him for hours at nasa headquarters then fired him because he had been picked up for being guy. >> supports of webb say the history is murky and those opposed to naming the telescope after him should take another look. he says after researching webb's history, he found a man of tolerance. >> james webb lauded the inte
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intellectual power of an openly guy woman. he went out of his way to help use nasa facilities to help desegregate the south. >> more than 1700 people signed a petition asking nasa to change the name to harriet tubman. >> i love harriet tubman, but that's note appropriate for this. >> nasa declined our request for an interview saying in a statement, the lavender scare was a painful time in american history. nasa's historian conducted an exhaustive search. he also talked to experts. nasa found no evidence they're changing the name. some said nasa needed to be transparent. >> people like me who have worked with nasa extensively and are queer feel like this is a decision made without really understanding what it came from. >> as the countdown to launch draws closer, there's one point
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of agreement. >> what i'll say is whatever we call it, we're going to use jwst to do excellent science. >> could there possibly be life out there? >> tune in, the hunt for planet b premiers tonight at 9:00 p.m. only on cnn. you are live in the cnn newsroom. a short time ago, chaos and panic at one of the world's busiest airports and high travel weekends of the year. that was the scene earlier this afternoon. people hitting the floor crawling away after gunfire rang out at a security check point. passengers even pouring on to the tarmac trying to get out of the terminal. the atlanta airport says the gunfire was the result of


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