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thanksgiving weekend. could it risk the progress we've made. plus growing anger, why this year's pricey thanksgiving is costing farmers too. welcome to "the lead." item indcaikaitlan collins in fe tapper. a jury in georgia has found all three men guilty of murder in the killing of ahmaud arbery. now travis mcmichael, gregory mcmichael and will yiam rod die bryan are facing life sentences. just a short while ago arbery's mother thanked supporters. >> early on, to tell you the truth, i never saw this day back in 2020. i never thought this day would come. but god is good.
now, i know him as quez, he will now rest in peace. >> and the three white men chased down and killed arbery, a 25-year-old black man, while he was jogging in february of 2020. they spoke to police on the scene, but the case stalled for more than two months before anyone was arrested. until this video of the deadly encounter became public. let's get straight to martin savidge live in brunswick, georgia. what was the reaction outside the courthouse after the guilty verdicts were read? >> reporter: you know, just before they were read, the tension was excruciating. i was in the crowd that had gathered quickly in front of the courthouse. they were listening on their cellphones, listening through their friends. and the moment that first guilty came down for travis mcmichael, there was a shout. and as each successive guilt was announced, it grew into a chorus. and people just broke down overwhelmed with emotion because
as you point out, justice in this case was delayed. but in the end, it was not denied. >> count one, malice murder, we the jury find the defendant travis mcmichael guilty. i'll ask whoever just made an outburst be removed from the court please. >> reporter: loved ones getting emotional in court this afternoon as all three defendants were found guilty of murder by a jury of nine white women, two white men and one black man. the judge going through all nine counts for each defendant. >> guilty. >> reporter: travis mcmichael, the man who shot and killed arbery, claiming it was self-defense, was found guilty on all nine counts. his father, gregory mcmichael, was found not guilty on one charge but guilty on the other eight. >> guilty. >> reporter: william roddie bryan junior the man who took the video of the shooting was found guilty on six counts. >> guilty.
>> reporter: people outside the courthouse sharing their reaction to the verdict. >> today justice was served. >> did you ever doubt this day might come? >> i did not. felt good. >> reporter: the jury deliberated for over 11 hours after 13 days of testimony from more than 30 witnesses. the three defendants claim that they were trying to make a citizen's arrest of arbery saying that they suspected that he had burglarized a nearby home construction site referring to the video of him wandering inside that home months before being killed. after the verdicts were read, arbery's family spoke outside the courthouse. >> it has been a long fight. it has been a hard fight. but god is good. >> i don't want to see no daddy watch their kid shot down like that. so it is all our problem. it is all our problem. so, high, let's keep fighting. >> reporter: jury came back relatively quickly here. we're talking about 11 hours of deliberation over, what, a day
and a half.we're talking about deliberation over, what, a day and a half.relatively quickly h. we're talking about 11 hours of deliberation over, what, a day and a half. so it is clear that they didn't buy into the citizen's arrest or self-defense. it really is a stunning defeat or you could say a stunning victory for justice because everyone saw the video and many just wondered if the jury saw the same thing the rest of america did. >> martin savidge, thank you. i want to bring in former prosecutor charles coleman jr., also a civil rights attorney, and also with me is criminal defense attorney mike eiklish. president biden also reacted saying that while the guilty verdict reflects that our justice system is doing its job, that alone is not enough. and you her aard arbery's mothe saying that she thought that day would never come. so as a civil rights attorney, what was your reaction to this verdict?
>> well, i look at the remarks made by the president and they are a stark contrast to what we heard from him just a week ago after the rittenhouse verdict was rendered. and this is the type of rhetoric, these are the types of remarks that i think will befitting the problem of these times. i think that it is important that we understand and place it into proper context however. that collective essential of anxiousness, that sense of text that was just described by the reporter seeing that so many of us had is a reflection, an indication of how far we have to go. it is to see that in this case people will be held accountable, but important for us to understand that until we are in a state where that becomes the expectation rather than the exception, we still have a lot more work do. >> mark, you saw the guilty, guilty, guilty verdicts as they were being read. what was your reaction to this? >> i've got one word and that is necessary. it was necessary. there was no other verdict that
spoke the truth when you look at the evidence presented and the law as read to the judge. and those who are saying that the jurors are courageous, i think that it is a bit of anoff statement. i appreciate their service. i'm so grateful for all they did. but this was the necessary outcome. anything else would have been a miscarriage of justice. it concerns me though, my celebration is tempered by the fact that this may not have ever happened, that if it didn't have a videotape featured in this case, then prosecutors would never have brought the charges. and also the fact that race relations have come far but clearly not far enough. anyone who is being intellectually honest knows if i was running through that neighborhood, these folks would never have batted an eye. if it was any of my kids running through there with lighter skin, they wouldn't have done anything. so let's not kid ourselves. there is a long way go although again i'm celebrating the only necessary outcome today. >> and of course race is obviously looming over this.
and charles, the jury was made up of 11 white people, one person of color. the lead prosecutor afterward came out and said that the verdict shows that the jury system works in this country. but how did you view those remarks? >> i was going to dovetail off of what mark just said. in terms of those overzealous saying that the justice system worked, they need to cool in that regard. it worked after a crooked prosecutor who is now facing charges of her own attempted to shield three now convicted murderers. it worked after a refusal for almost two months to arrest three now convicted murderers. it worked after a video leaked showing that this murder took place on camera. but for any of those things being present, can we feel confident in the fact that the system would have worked the way
that it did? the fact that many of us know from a place of intellectual honesty to borrow mark's phrase that that is not true and that that may be very much in doubt is demonstrative of the fact that we cannot rest on the notion that the justice system worked this time. and the last thing i want to say on that point is let's not conflate the notion of justice versus accountability. unfortunately, because ahmaud arbery is no longer with us, the notion of true justice is out of tr reach. but today three people were held accountable and that is a good start. >> and of course you are referencing that it took over two months for anyone to be arrested in this. and you saw right after the georgia bureau of investigation took over, two dies before you saw that these arrests were out there. but mark, i want to ask, you saw the third man involved, roddie bryan, he was the neighbor who helped chase arbery, he filmed it. there he was in court today. he was also found guilty of felony murder. were you surprised by that at
all? >> no. because what he did was he committed a felony by chasing down a man who was simply going for a jog. and by doing so, he committed aggravated assault and that ultimately led to the death of an innocent person. and i'm not surprised at all. again, a necessary verdict. aristotle defined justice is like cases being treated alike. let's start seeing more of that in the criminal justice system where everyone regardless of the color of their skin is treated in the same sway. this a good step but i think it might indicate when you have a videotape, justice occurs. let's see what happens when there is not one. >> and we've seen that play out so much nationally. not just with this case, but others where the videotape was a necessary apart of it. charles, i do want to ask you know, because this isn't over. of course these men still have to be sentenced and the justice
department has charged each of them with federal hate crime charges. so do you expect the justice department to continue to pursue that now that we have these guilty verdicts? >> i do. i think in fact this gives the justice department a bit of momentum going into their case around federal hate crimes against these three men. there was a lot of evidence that was weighed by the judge in this case that was not admitted that i do think that for relevant reasons will come in during the federal prosecution particularly a federal civil rights violation. and so when you talk about prosecution to the fullest extent of the law, this is what it looks like. it looks like not only being held accountable on the state and local level, but also where there are federal violations of someone's civil rights, also holding them accountable there as well. so i do think a tis panticipate the justice department will move forward with prosecution of these three men. >> and so they are awaiting sentences. what do you expect when it comes to the sentences for them? >> i expect with certainty a
life sentence. whether the judge gives them possibility of parole or not, that is left to be determined. at a minimum they wouldn't be eligible for parole at least until they serve 30 years. so i think that likely at least the older folk will die and i agree that federal prosecutors should continue on prosecuting because at a minimum let's get a plea out of these guys in federal court so that they have substantial time in federal court and thus in the very unlikely event that this state court case is ever overturned on appeal, and i don't it will, at least you've got that federal sentence there. >> and the defense attorneys have said that they will appeal this. charles, mike, thank you both so much for joining us on this massive headline today. >> thank you. president biden is anxious to prove that he is turning around the economy. but that might be tough as americans are seeing the price of their thanksgiving meal surge. and getting to that turkey dinner might take you a while. we'll show you the latest as americans are hit beiting the r
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in national lead, mad dash for thanksgiving. on the planes tsa predicts some 20 million people will travel by air. and amtrak says this is one of the busiest days of the year. and aaa says the vast majority of people will hit the roads for thanksgiving. and stephanie elam is at l.a.x. as holiday travel could hit pre-pandemic lefts. >> i think that we realized belatedly that this would be the busiest travel day of the year. >> reporter: the first thanksgiving since covid shots started going into arms. >> it is good to get away. >> good to finally feel kind of normal again. >> reporter: and americans are traveling near pre-pandemic levels. but before getting to that, travelers have to get through this. >> kind of figured that it would be more packed than usual, but not this intense.
>> reporter: the tsa estimating more than 20 million people will fly for the thanksgiving holiday, a pandemic travel record. and far cry from the poultry nu paltry numbers this time last year. for days airline officials reminding passengers to be early, patient and masked. washington's reagan national airport tweeting just an airport, standing in front of its passengers, asking them to arrive two hours early. but some americans are skipping the airport all together, opting to hit the road. >> i didn't want to spend too much time with security lines and i thought that it would be faster to drive than to fly. and just probably be safer. i don't have to deal with the crowds. >> reporter: aaa predicting more than 48 million people will be driving for the holiday. and 8% increase from last year. >> hopefully the traffic is not bad by thanksgiving because i'll probably cry. >> reporter: and while drivers won't be fighting tsa lines,
they will be dealing with record high gas prices. average price for regular gas is $3.40 according to government data, highest price for the monday before thanksgiving in nearly a decade. >> just got to pay it, i suppose. >> reporter: but no matter the traffic, crowds and cost, millions of americans say that they are just thankful that they can once again gather with loved ones. >> i'm ready despite the risk to pick up aspects of my life this thanksgiving eve. i'm thrilled to be going to connecticut to spend the holiday with my son and it is just very special. all rig ar >> reporter: and i know that you say it doesn't look that busy, but the flights go waves. so get here early. and i know that you are an airport warrior too. you can be very, very thankful
to get here early. >> as so many people are smiling and relaxing at the airport. hard to come by. thank you to bringing us the latest. turning to our health lead, families are preparing for thanksgiving with a rash of new covid cases rising across the u.s. approaching 100,000 new infections per day. elizabeth cohen is joining me live. families across the country are about to take off their masks, eating dinner a large group maybe for the first time since the pandemic. so what are you seeing in the new case numbers? >> so many times during the pandemic we've seen numbers go down and we all sort of feel the sense of relief and we think that maybe this is it, maybe this pandemic is finally ending. but let me show you what is going on. if you take a look at this graph, you can see the last spring numbers were starting to doi down and then you see the huge surge in the middle, that was the delta variant doing its
work over the summer and fall. and now you see the numbers coming back up again unfortunately. they went up, and then down, and now they are coming back up again all the way to the right side of that graph. resulting in this. you can see that most of the country here is in red. that means high levels of community transmission. and i want to talk about how quickly this has happened. let's take a look at a map of the united states from october 21. you only see one state in red. that means that only in one state were cases going up. now take a look at that same exact map but today, now you see that in 27 states cases are rising. so it doesn't take long for cases to go back up again. and perhaps the most important number for all of us to remember, 1100 people in the united states dying every day of covid-19. do not let this be you, do not let this be your loved ones.
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see inflation show up at the dinner table tomorrow. gas is costing 62% more than this time last year. and the american farm bureau says that this will be the most expensive turkey day on record. 14% more than last year. but at gabe cohen now reports, that is not translating to farmers across america who say that they are losing money despite the increase in prices. >> reporter: as jim jones finishes the harvest on his north carolina farm, skyrocketing costs are slicing through his profits. are you seeing anymore money from this inflation? >> no. we're actually paying for it. >> reporter: the price of fertilizer, fuel and labor are way up, with no ceiling in sight. how did your profit change this year? >> i would say maybe 10%, 15%. >> reporter: what about looking ahead to next year? >> that much more to it again. >> reporter: inflation may be cooking up the most expensive thanks giving in history for families. usda scis says the average dinnt
is up 5%, american farm bureau say it may be as much as 14%. price hikes from most products from potatoes to turkeys which are nearing a record high. despite those markups, many farmers say the price they receive for their crop isn't going up. >> my price is staying the same. or a little lower. >> reporter: why don't farmers just raise the price of their crops? >> they are price takers, not price makers. >> reporter: president of the national farmers union -- who is making money from that inf inflation. >> the middle man. >> reporter: in many cases processors and distribute tors who get food from the farm to store shelves are passing along their surging costs. with materials still stuck on cargo ships and a shortage of labor driving up wages and costs. >> and we're also trying to pay for the uncertainty in the market place. >> reporter: and an agricultural economist at michigan state
university -- >> we're in the middle of a perfect storm of unique events in ag ag production. i would say buckle up for a while longer of these higher input costs. >> reporter: some farms are stocking up on materials in suppliers run out. others are waiting hoping prices will cost. all these costs especially labor are threatening matt's california sweet potato farm. >> we were making $100,000 to $150,000 a year in profit. this year we'll probably lose $80,000 to $120,000. >> reporter: and it is only getting worse. >> we could potentially lose a quarter of a million dollars next year. we would not have enough cash to take into the following year in order to get our operating loan in order to operate for the following year. >> reporter: farmers are used to volatility and both are now looking for ways to adapt like downsizing or shifting to other crops. >> i'm worried but i won't let it get me down.
we'll survive somehow. >> reporter: as long as the money problems stop piling up. >> just need to get a fair price for what we're growing. >> reporter: the usda just announced $90 million in grants to help farmers get their products directly to consumers. and look, not every farmer is being impacted the same here. but there is widespread concern about these rising costs that just about everyone is dealing with. and then of course the uncertainty heading into next year. especially when so many of these farmers of course don't even know how good their crop will be. >> gabe cohen, thanks for that report. obviously my panel here is with me, this inflation that he is talking about, is plaguing voters across the united states. and there is a new poll from npr out that says that 39% of voters say inflation is their biggest economic concern. overwages, over labor shortages, other unemployment. so how do you think that this is affecting the poll numbers that
we are seeing of president biden's also drop? >> it has a tremendous impact, that is why we're seeing poll numbers at 42% approval rating. that is horrible. and you have to go back to when we first started seeing signs of inflation, the administration told us that this is just transitory, temporary, it will be short-lived. but now we're seeing even from liberal economists anticipating this will last well into 2022. so the longer this inflation and these high prices hit americans, the more harmful it will be not just for this president but for the administration and democrats. we saw in virginia and in governor's race, pocketbook issues were the number one concern for virginia voters. and as the prices continue on go up and inflation continues to haunt people, it is not good news for biden. >> francesca, you see these price increases are obviously not good for the white house but there are other strong signs in the economy. like when you look at the jobless claims, unemployment claims, what is with the disconnect? what does the white house believe is with the disconnect between some of the strong signs
but also such pessimism over how the people view the economy generally. >> and i asked jen psaki about this yesterday. why when they keep hammering these things in about the wages and the shelves being shocked are you seeing such a disconnects in the polling. and americans do have this view that the economy is not getting better. and she essentially said that they just think that they need to draw a stronger context and keep putting administration officials out there to convince americans that it is actually better than the perception of the economy is. >> and which is a tough sell as we're seeing that over the last several months. bill, you're quoted in an interesting piece in the atlantic that says that if biden essentially wants to raise his popularity which clearly the white house is working doing that needs a villain to unite the american people against. and james carville, democratic strategist, is quoted as saying as the now the white house does not have good story tellers and good stories new villains.
do you agree, what kind of villain do you think that the white house needs? >> i'm not sure that that was the thesis of the piece. i wasn't inventing villains. but in virginia, where i live, i know some democrats in real time evaluated all the youngkin ads that were the most effective. and the one that was most by quite a bit was he is going to cut the grocery tax in virginia. i have lived in virginia for a long time. there is a sales tax that i guess applies to groceries. all the other stuff, critical race theory, all the other stuff, it was cutting the grocery tax because people are so sensitive to inflation. so just brings home the point that you can have low unemployment numbers and get no credit and inflation takes off, and people are worried about inflation because if it keeps going and the fed has to tighten, then you can get in the worst of both worlds. you can get unemployment going up, interest rates start to go
up and you still have some inflation and that is the nightmare for the biden white house. as for a villain, i don't know. >> this idea that needs something to unite people against. is it inflation? >> yeah, but they can't effect that. i think that they are crazy enough to try to take more credit for what the progress has been made on covid and keep hammering that. and frankly to criticize republicans who have not helped get more people vaccinated, get more people boosted, get more kids vaccinated. we're turning the corner on that did h despite the upsurge in the last month or so. fewer are dying and those who are dying are the unvaccinated. and so biden should say think where we were a year ago. and give a little credit for president trump to getting the thing going a year and a half ago. but people are taking that good news for granted and then they are focusing on the bad news of inflation. >> but they are going to the grocery store and paying so much
more. and i think the president has tried to make the argument about what happened year ago. >> and at the gas station they are paying more. and i think the problem to the tone of that piece, not about this president finding a villain. his biggest problem and the person needs to focus on is himself and the policies that he is iimplementing. so often republicans have focused on policy over persona and democrats have focused on persona over policy and that has created a very problematic blind spot with regard to an agenda that will lift all americans up. >> that thanksgiving dinner costing 40 cents more per person? there were no thanksgiving dinners a year ago. why? because the pandemic was raging and there was no vaccine. shouldn't people have that in mind as they complain about things costing, you know, 40 cents more this year? >> and you could hear in biden's speech that they want to acknowledge the fact that people know that they are paying more. yes, gas prices were lower last year because no one could go
anywhere, but that doesn't change the fact that if you are trying to see your family this year, it costs a lot of money and you don't have as much money because things cost more across the board. so while the white house is trying to tout some of the things that they are doing to i guess be l.iiebelie inflation, have to acknowledge that people are hurting. >> and that has been the message that you have seen president biden taking. basically i feel your pain. but jackie, i want your take on some speculation about 2024 because it is never too soon to start talking about the next election. there is a new police in politico that says that the buttigieg presidential buzz has penetrated the white house. and it has a quote saying that i'd say the other thing that i'm really enjoying about this job from the transportation secretary, although it is very demanding and requiring a lot, is that this is the least i've had to think about campaign and elections in about a decade and that is a very good thing. do you really think that pete
buttigieg is not thinking about an upcoming election potentially? >> he has a lot of people around help do that for him. and the rivalry that is playing out even on the staff level right now is just a glimgs of what we'll see over the next three years. whether or not -- and i know biden infrastructure around him has said that he is running again. of course they have to say that. if he throws it in right now, no one will listen to him. he won't be able to get anything done. so that absolutely makes sense. but that is not going to stop these very, very ambitious people and the people around them from marshaling what they can just in case the time does come for them to have to mount another campaign. >> and the white house has said that president biden is running for re-election. but obviously i think that the natural question and natural person that you would look to is the vice president. so what are your sources telling you about how her staff feels about all of this talk surrounding the transportation secretary? >> it is a difficult line for the vice president to walk in
any scenario because she has to do a good job at her job in order to get that next job if he doesn't run in 2024. but you also have a transportation secretary out there putting his name on all these projects and getting to be seen out there with other people. so, you know, it is a difficult situation to be in for her. >> and she has all the hardest stuff. her 30r9 port follow whyfolio i. >> thank you all for being here. up next, the scary crime wave at stores as holiday shopping is picking up. is to be on a journey. and along the ride, you'll have many questions. challenges. and a few surprises. ♪ but wherever you are on your journey. your dell technologies advisor is here for you - with the right tech solutions. so you can stop at nothing for your customers.
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in our national lead, a crime spree of smash and grab robberies just as the holiday shopping season is kicking off. cameras caught one group in action near chicago where thieves rushed in to this louie vuitton store, pushed shoppers to the side and practically cleared the shelves. and as nick watt now reports, it is not just high end stores that are becoming prime targets for these thieves. >> reporter: oak brooke, illinois, a coordinated smash and grab swarm overwhelmed security at a louie vuitton store. more than 100 grand in handbags and more was stolen. in downtown san francisco, more hit by a mob. >> this is not a problem limited to san francisco. >> reporter: just outside the city, burglars arms filled with merch made their getaway from a nordstrom. an employee was pepper sprayed during the raid. >> probably saw 50 to 80 people
in ski masks, crow bars, a bunch of weapons. >> reporter: they fled in ten cars. three consarrests were made, tw guns recovered. sunday night another raid at another bay area mall. >> what we're not used to is their willingness to use firearms and shoot at people. >> reporter: and at the grove, a nordstrom was hit monday night, $5,000 worth of goods stolen, $15,000 worth of damage. and this mall had 3wbeefed up security after the protests that followed the murder of george floyd. >> you saw bad guys with 20 pound sledgehammers having a very difficult time to break a window because all of our windows have ballistic film on it. >> reporter: many more malls now beefing up security as californian authorities promising action. >> these people need to be held to account. we need to investigate these crimes. we need to break up these crime rings. and we need to make an example out of these folks. in oakland --
>> we'll have tactical teams deployed. >> reporter: and even when cops are quick to the scene, with a mob, many will still get away. so why is all this happening right now? well, in the run-up to the holidays, stores are packed, so there is a lot to steal. also there is a market right now for the goods that are stolen. and you know, some security experts tell us also that penalties are just not enough. here in california for example, goods worth less than 950 bucks, that is just a misdemeanor. >> nick watt, thank you so much. part son pisan pal tolitics only divisive, you about up next, how it can lead to a very dangerous path. but up next, how it can lead to a very dangerous path.
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complete turmoil at this point. - for chesa boudin to intervene in so many cases is both bad management and dangerous for the city of san francisco. - we are for criminal justice reform. chesa's not it. recall chesa boudin now. european watchdog group says the rule of law was not respected in venezuelan's elections in which maduro claimed victory. >> if you are a fan of democracy, november has been a very bad month in latin america. the latest example, venezuela.
nicolas maduro claiming victory for his party which won 21 of 24 state governorships. he says the result is because of our hard work and honesty. critics though in the outcome was already determined. and the vote can't be trusted they say in a country where maduro controls state institutions. allegations of coerced voting and violence have already surfaced. and then there is nicaragua where on november 7 daniel ortega won another term in what can only be described as sham elections. his regime unleashed a campaign of political terror back in june arresting any prominent would-be oppositions and tossing them in jail. those in jail are sons of mr. b [ bleep ] he says. and we tried to get in ourselves to see what was happening there
but authorities kdeported my tem and me after just a few hours. and ortega spoke about journalists like us. these scoundrels want to come cover the elections in we already know that they are employees of the american intelligence agencies. so ortega wins a fourth consecutive term and their democracy is on life support. but it is not just those three countries that are having problems. this is a map from freedom house, and each country is given a score that measures its liberal democracy. green means an improving score and as you can see, not a lot of green on this map. from 2019 to 2020, nearly every country in latin american and caribbean either became less free or stayed the same. like in latin america's large u.s. country, brazil, led by the right wing populist bolsonaro
who reminded many of the country's dark days of military dick d dictator ship. and he has suggested that he won't respect next year's election results. from what i see he says, i will not accept any election results that do not claire me the winner. my mind is made up. a dictatorial declaration the kind of language some say is also coming from another country, el salvador. currently run by the world's coolest dictator, not my words of course. he wrote that himself on his twitter bio earlier this year. the millennial president might have been joking but his attacks on the opposition are no laughing matter and have some concerned that he could be central america's next strong man. what is happening in these places might not stay there.
>> recent threat of defusion -- >> reporter: and only 49% of people said democracy is the best form of government according to a late 2020 poll. >> next four years yes, you might get worried because things could get worse. we will have all these monsters that will appear here and there. >> reporter: but she also says that she is optimistic about the future because so many people still actually support democracy despite all of the economic hardship and corruption and even violence that so many latin american countries have experienced lately. and you know as one expert told me, where it is bad, it is really bad. but with thriving democracies in places like chile oig, there is still hope to be had if you are a fan of democracy. >> which we are. matt rivers, thanks so much for that important report. nasa's new mission is to
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>> this is what we call a global killer. nothing will survive. >> united states government just asked us to save the world. anybody want to say no? >> do you think we'll get hazard pay? >> unlike the movie however nasa's mission will send an unmanned spacecraft millions of miles into space, a ten month trip to try to knock an astroid off course. if that doesn't work, tweerling tha we're telling nasa to call bruce willis. that is it for "the lead." our coverage continues. breaking news, the jury finds all three men on trial for the murder of ahmaud arbery guilty, the verdict sparking cheer this is brunswick where arbery's family has been waiting for justice ever since he was gunned down. also tonight attorneys for former president trump say that the committee probing the january 6th attack on the capito