tv Smerconish CNN November 27, 2021 6:00am-7:00am PST
the virus knows no boundaries. i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. a new coronavirus variant is raising alarms around the globe causing sharp financial market decline and spurring new travel restrictions aimed at countries in the southern african region after south african scientists said it was linked to an exponential rise in cases in their own country. so far the new strain dubb bed
omicron variant has been in botswana, hong kong. and fears that the new variant could derail the global recovery. a global nation of united states and japan have stopped flights to the south african region in order to control the spread. just last night, 61 travelers arriving tested positive for covid-19 upon landings in the netherlands. the dutch health authorities said those positive test results would be examined as soon as possible to determine whether they're infected with the new variant. the latest outbreak, a reminder no matter what the vaccination rate will be in the developed world, it won't behind us until immunity is worldwide. so, where do we stand in that score? currently developed countries like china, japan, france, italy, south korea and canada
have fully immunized more than three quarters of their populations. in the united states, that number is currently 59%. according to bloomberg, 110 of the 200 countries for which they have data are shy of 50% of their populations having full immunization. of that number, 64 countries including south africa have not even reached 25%. india is only at 31%. russia, just 37%. fully immunized. of the 37 nations. with less than 10% fully protected 32 are in sub-saharan africa. where slightly more than half has one dose it means 3.4. . beam have no vaccination. it's a reminder of tom friedmann telling us that the world is indeed flat and until the developed world inoculates its
own and protects itself to the rest of the planet is our future. that brings us to the survey question. while federal travel requires face masks. there are no vaccine or test requirements in order to fly domestically in the united states. international travel requirements coming in to the u.s. depend on where you're from and your vaccination status. here's today's survey from smerconish.com. i want to know if you agree or disagree with this statement. unless you're vaccinated or recently tested you should not be permitted to fly anywhere. agree or disagree? go vote now. joining me is dr. amish adalja, a pittsburgh-based surgeon. and lily caprani head of advocacy of vaccines at unicef.
>> adalja, let me begin with you, does this ever end? >> no, this san official spreading respiratory virus. it established itself in the human population it's going to become endemic. the goal is just containment like other respiratory viruses but we're always going to have covid around hopefully in a less threatening manner as we get more people immunized. >> and doctor, wouldn't you think from the past experience we're fooling ours from we thing omicron is not in the united states. >> yeah, i think it is in the united states, we know that case in south africa didn't have any transmission. we see it's a sampling. it's likely something at a low level. delta continues to be the predominant variant.
i would not be surprised to see that omicron is here and spreading in small clusters. >> i promise i'll get to lily. it can get here if brought here or through a natural progression of its owns right? >> likely it occurred in one of those south african countries because the prevalence is so high. it's not easy for the virus to do. if you look at the mutations and you look at where it fits on the family tree of viruses this is probably something that descends from 2020. and spreading from person. and developed those mutations and jumped back into other humans and spread. i don't think it's something that occurs simultaneously in other parts of the world, it is something that specifically happened where it happened. and uncommon type of mutations that occur, but something that actual will spread.
>> lily, something tells me you're the least surprise of this new development. am i right? >> well, this is what viruses do. they are allowed to keep circulating, they mutate and they create a new variant. we've seen that happening throughout the last year, we've been warning and warning and warning that nobody gets out of this until we get everyone protected around the world. and sadly, often enough, it's come true. i mean, we were expecting this. and in some ways there's plenty we can do to keep us safe in following just the usual social distancing rules, hygiene and so on. what we really need, let the science do what it's been able to do. provide the solutions for us and solve the kind of political problems, getting test treatments and vaccines all around the world so that we can curb the virus in every part of the world. we're never going to end the global pandemic one country at a
time. we're going to have to get much better at global cooperation to solve this. >> well, i said at the outset, in fact, i think my first words today were the virus doesn't respect boundaries. so what then is the responsibility on the developed world to make sure, as you say, that we're doing our share for the underdeveloped world? >> and for ourselves, you know, my family, your family, they're not safe until we get everyone around the world equal access to vaccinations and the other protections. it's in our own interest, as well as the right thing to do. and the good news is, you know, this time last year, we were all sitting here hoping for a vaccine. and science did what it does, it comes up with solutions that are available. and now the world has billions of vaccines. just a short time later. the problem that we haven't solved is to equally distribute them. we've still got most people in africa have never been offered their first shot yet. they're dangerously unprotected.
so not only does that mean that we're all exposed to new variant because the virus is just spreading around. but it puts them at huge risk for all of the other effects from the pandemic like health systems put under strain. kids missing school. basic health care, normal children vaccine programs going by the wayside. the consequences for low and middle-income countries are really enormous. high-income countries have got enough vaccines to keep looking after their own populations. and to donate them and share them around the world. much faster than they're doing right now. so there's a solution in our hands. we just cannot afford to wait any longer to deliver that solution. and make sure that people in af africa, people in other low-income countries are also getting a chance to get protected like those of us in rich countries already are. >> dr. adalja, when will we know when the current vaccines that we have are effective against
the new variant? >> if you listen to what the companies are saying it's probably a process that's going to take about two weeks to do those experiments. it's important to remember, there's a couple of different things they're looking for. first, they try to understand does the vaccine protect against infection are breakthrough infections more common based on the studies in the lab, as well as clinical and epidemiological studies. and then they have to answer the question which is more important does the vaccine prevent serious hospitalization and death. i expect because of the antibodies, the t-cells that is likely to be a case even though the breakthrough infections become more common with omicron variant, like the ones we don't hear, that is keeping people out of the hospital so i think that is the likely trajectory but it's going to take a couple weeks before they get that data to say it definitively. >> and lily, do we know the extent to which the virus has
spread, say, in the african continent. if so few have been inoculated logic tells me that very few are tested. so might we be shocked in the future to find out just how many people already have the virus? >> i think that's right. there's definitely underreporting. and we expect the official death toll is kind of the tip of the iceberg really of what's going on. it's another reminder to us this isn't just about vaccines. it's important. it's the clearest pathway from the pandemic to get everyone vaccinated. but at the same time, these countries also need equal access to testing, to other kinds of treatment, to protective equipment. and all of those things that help us stop exposure to the virus like handwashing facilities and infection control. all of those things can play a really important part. and all of them are not equally available right now. that's not to say the world doesn't have enough supply, because it does. but they're very unevenly
distributed. and that's the problem we need to solve. through -- >> dr. adalja -- agreed. a quick final comment on you on the new development? >> this is what we're going to see happen when you have populations in the world that are not vaccinated. i don't think it's an accident that this happened in part of the world where less than a quarter of the population is fully vaccinated. so as long as the virus has an opportunity to infect people it's going to inject new variants. and some of those variants are dangerous. we have to double down on first and second doses. it's the first and second doses that change the trajectory of this pandemic. >> right. but we're struggling here at home. we're trying to move on and take care of the rest of the planet but we're still at 59% fully inoculated in the united states. anyway, thank you both. that was excellent and i contribute your contribution. >> thank you. what are your thoughts? tweet me at smerconish or go to
my facebook page. i'll read some throughout the course of the program. youtube. i agree with the requirement, however, you can imagine the tsa -- okay, so joseph is responding to me saying, shouldn't there be a requirement, or anybody getting on an airplane anywhere, that they're vaccinated, or have just been tested? now, put it back on the screen so i have some context to respond to this. he says, i agree with the requirement, meaning my hypothetical requirement. however, you can imagine the tsa and security issues if this is put in place. well, i get your concern, that this would be such a stumbling block. but, really, can't we upload the information in the same way that many of us do with the tsa. or global entry precheck, so that by the time you walk up to the tsa agent, they already know this is an individual -- it shouldn't be incumbent on tsa. i don't think it should be incumbent on tsa to sit there now and look at your card and your license. but surely, with the technology
that we have, a process can be established so that they know this person coming through security has been vaxed or tested. continue to go to my website @smerconish.com this hour. i want to know what you think. here's the statement. this is the affirmative statement, unless you're vaccinated or recently tested you should not be permitted to fly anywhere. agree or disagree? can't wait to see results of that. up ahead, the pandemic is wreaking havoc on the mental health on the young. emergency rooms are seeing an increase on child and adolescent visits on such issues what can be done. plus, the most recent smash and rab robberies of high-end retailers caused holiday shoppers to just decide i'm going to stay home this year. ve. you can count on fast, effective relief with motrin.
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retailers have been targeted by coordinated burglaries could this scare shoppers off this h holiday season. 80 stormed shoppers, in only a minute's time. two other california nordstroms were hit, this time in the los angeles area by thieves making off with thousands of dollars of goods. back in the bay area, the apple store in santa rosa was robbed in broad daylight with more teen age male suspects who grabbed $20,000 worth of products and pled. in a mall in california, a group of thieves smashed cases at a mall jewelry store. and 14 people barged into a louis vuitton store and made off with merchandise. one consumer voiced what is a
common fear. >> very disturbing because now i'm reluctant to come to nordstrom's or even the mall for that matter to make my purchases. >> joining me now is butter flickener, he's managing director of the retail firm. are folks going to stay home because of these reports? >> michael, one quarter of consumers west to east, north and south, one out of four considering not going to the mall because of crime. one half, prior to your report, not going to the mall because of pandemic. and the other one quarter not going to the mall because they bought early or more likely put off by the price gouging that's pervasive in this holiday season. >> and the brick and mortar stores because of the pandemic are already struggling, right? i mean, i'm here in philadelphia and i drive throughout center
city every week. i see so many boarded up for whatever reason. >> michael, you know your detail retail well. and you and team reported well earlier this week, nordstrom's stock dropped 30% in a day. in the prior quarter, dropped 20% in a day. because when you lose sales for every $300 that's stolen from a nordstrom's or anywhere else, $3 of that $300 of merchandise is recovered. so nordstrom operating on one cent of every dollar of sales profit. nordstrom's has to sale $300,000 worth of product, michael, to make up for every $300 worth of theft. >> here's some of the shoplifting data. i'll put a slide up that shows the prepandemic rate of 0.70 to 1%. versus 2020. 1%. 2021, 1.7%. and i see, you know, it's a 0.7%
increase because of economies of scale. that's a lot of money. here's holiday shoplifting, 2021 as a percentage of sales on the coast coast. in the past month, 2 to 3%, approaching 5%. maybe that data belies my next question, burt, i remember the summer of the shark, report after report of shark attack. later, when nobody cared it turned out the incidence of shark accidents declined. and fear of people dying in the dominican republic can that in the end wasn't attributed to mini bars or whatever we speculated. rye know this crime is real, but is there a risk of being overinflated including by the media and people get fearful about staying home when frankly
they don't have a risk? >> michael, the biggest risk is future commercial development, south central los angeles, south side, west side of chicago, east side of detroit, east side of buffalo, et cetera, east harlem, all significantly understored. and if reports of flash and grab crime is pervasive, or any other type of crime, the developers who need to invest do not invest. of that said, corina lamb your great producer, discussed the strategic solution which is the late great senator patrick moynahan on a bipartisan basis created economic empowerment zones in the innercity to build shopping malls, build shopping centers have full-service post office, police substations to create jobs not just for retail but to lead into management. and ultimately you have an
economic requiem and renaissance in the innercities that checks crime, gates crime, and creates opportunity. and great spending like the late jack putterman did. on 609 one of the most profitable stores in america. and doj and s.e.c. were asleep at the switch which vulture companies came in and bankrupted and in my professional view stole the money so we need good old government oversight. and we need the economic empowerment zones. that can mitigate and ultimately checkmate crime. but the reports of crime are concerning to people who will and can invest with unions, the teamsters, bakers, et cetera, especially in those cities where they're low in selling anything except food. >> i appreciate the shoutout to
jack kemp, once my boss. i guess i got to say, we've got to cover these stories. and the film footage is like catnip. but i don't want to scare people to death and have them not go out and support the brick and mortar stores. especially on a day like today. i think today is small business saturday, so my pitch is everything in balance. everything in balance. thank you for being here. i appreciate your time and expertise. >> michael, you're right. final comment, everything in balance and 56% more shoppers will support local businesses and family-owned and operated businesses today on small business saturday. is. >> good. >> and that's the answer you were looking for too, sir. >> amen. thank you. let's check in on comments. kathryn, from the world of twitter, i think, maybe we can get law enforcement to focus on actual crime, rather than pulling people over for broken taillights. oh, my god, michael, i can speak on that for a half hour.
i have to say, i think this prop47 in california has to be a factor somewhere. that, you know from 0 to $949 if you steal it, it's a misdemeanor. and only at $950 does it become a felony. i see the people running out of those stores in that film footage. i don't know, maybe i'm naive. are they mindful of the $950 limit so they only get tagged with a misdemeanor. yeah, law enforcement needs to make an example of those who we catch. let us know that especially today, in every one of our main streets, oh, my god, i'd like to support the local stores but i'm watching all of this stuff on tv -- go support the local store. up ahead the world's best-selling author -- did i just say that -- yes, the world's best-selling author. james patterson is here. the man has written crime
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he is the world's best-selling author. that's the title you get when you sell more than 400 million books worldwide. and he's able to turn them out with production that henry ford would have admired. this year, 11 new patterson books will hit the shelves. his latest is called "fear no evil." it's the 29th installment of
alex cross franchise. james patterson has co-authored with bill clinton and next year will co-author with dolly parton. he joins me now. thank you for being here. >> i usually watch, but it's good to be on. >> listen, you're good for my demographics, among best-selling authors i'm number one, 25-54. >> okay. >> how important is that first paragraph, matthew butler cocked his head to one side, considering the big-boned blond in front of him. she was shackled and handcuffed to the bolt on the floor beneath bright lights. do you go back on that to make sure it's perfect so you hook us from the get-go? >> well, i do. i pretend there's somebody sitting across from me and i'm telling them a story and i don't want them to get up until i'm
finished. that's my strength and my weakness, too. i can probably go deeper sometimes, but i do. i want to get the reader involved directly. with the cross books in particular, that's my baby. you never know, this one happens to be one of better ones. it really is a good book. it's a week of christmas for thrillers. i haven't them, my competition didn't do so well this christmas so the cross book is in a good position. >> why are your readers worldwide so entranced with alex cross? what is it about this character you tapped into? >> i think they identified -- i think everybody can identify with the notion of having a very hard job and trying to balance that with family. that's what alex does. obviously, his job is over the top as a homicide detective and the things that i do to the poor man. but he also has to balance family. i think we all -- most of us deal with that. how do we work and then balance
family life. >> james, take me where you do your best work. where are we? what does it look like? is music playing? are we smoking? are we drinking? what's the deal? >> we drink afterwards. you know, i'm very lucky. i don't work for a living. i write for a living. i play for a living, actually. and i can write anywhere. i can write on planes. everything goes bye-bye. i love it. it is not work at all. my office -- weirdly, there's shelves all around the office. and right now, there are 31 active projects, novels or screen plays or whatever that i'm working on right now. i remember one of the journalists came here and he went, this is crazy, this is crazy. as i was showing him all these projects. then he looked at me and went, james, you are crazy. >> james, i made reference to your productivity. and you call on collaborators.
i mean, the process is you develop a very detailed outline. 70, 80, 90 pages. >> yes. >> and then you entrust your babies to other people, true? >> a little bit -- no. no. i'm seeing those pages every couple of weeks. i either go, yeah, you're the best, hold it, hold it, i rewrite a lot of and i guide a lot. i'm not giving up those babies because ultimately it's got my name on it. so, no, i don't trust him. i don't trust president clinton, i don't trust dolly -- no, actually i do. >> i wanted to ask you about those two collaborations. bill clinton and dolly parton. >> yeah. >> how do their approaches to your craft differ, how are they the same? >> very similar. really helpful. you know, authenticity is really useful. in terms of president clinton, he can tell you, here's what the
secret service will do. in terms of dolly, our book is about a rising country and western, one in a lifetime kind of singers, and the authenticity in that book, "run rosa run." they're both friends. dolly saying happy birthday to me over the telephone, how do you beat that. >> in that coming project, am i wright that lyrics are going to be woven into the story line? >> yes, i went down to see her and we talked about maybe doing a children's book. that i had an outline, and she worked on the outline and two days later, she sent me the lyrics to seven of her songs. i don't want to get into that because it's going to be promoted in march. it's great. >> "fear no evil" don't go
spoiling the ending. i appreciate you being here. i hope that's a penn hat you're wearing? >> yes, it's a patterson hat, but also a penn hat. our son had to choose between brown and penn. he chose brown, but i don't like brown's hats. >> james, thank you, appreciate it. >> thank you, nice to talk to you. make sure you're voting at smerconish.com on today's survey question, have you been there yet? i'm asking today whether you agree with an affirmative statement, put it on the screen, kathryn. unless you are vaccinated or recently tested, you should not be permitteded to fly anywhere. do you agree or disagree with that? still to come, many of your best and worst tweets and facebook comments. and we'll give you the results of the survey question so go
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the state of our children's mental health worsened by the emotional toll of the pandemic is aptly described as a crisis, according to my next guest. a recent cdc study found that nationwide hospitals saw in a seven-month span in 2020. those ages 5 to 11 had a 24% increase in emergency visits due to mental health considerations, compared with the same time period the year before. among patients 12 to 17, the
increase was 31%. this is not helped by the fact that while one-third of all children will experience a mental health condition during their lifetime, less than half will receive treatment. joining me now is dr. tammy benton chief psychiatrist at the hospital of philadelphia. dr. benton, thank you for being here. here's what i want to ask you. is there a higher incidence of mental health problems to children today than say a generation ago or are we more attune to these issues? >> that's an absolute question. i think it's a combination of both things. we thing that rates of mental health conditions have been relatively stable over time. but what we're experiencing is, you know, recently, since the pandemic, we're seeing rapid escalations in the kinds of problems that people are presented with now. so, probably over time, just with normal variations, there were not significant changes. but the pandemic has
significantly exacerbated mental health concerns for young people. >> well, to the extent things have changed, would technology be high atop your list as to why? >> so, in terms of why, i think that's -- i think there have been -- there's a combination of things. so, there are issues, as i mentioned before, significantly related to the pandemic. but, you know, we've also seen a fairly significant amount of change, prior to the pandemic. so, we were seeing increased late rates of anxiety and depression for young people before the pandemic happened. we think those are related to multiple factor. some of it has to do with how special media is utilized by young people. social media in itself is not a bad thing. but there are some things that really can go wrong with how adolescents use social media, particularly those struggling
anyway. those struggling with anxiety and depression prior to the utilization of social media are people of increased risk of difficulties. a lot of increased school stress. you know, young people nowadays are much more concerned about academy futures and competitive pressures in ways that only exacerbate the anxiety experiences that young people are having. it's a combination of factors impacting young people now. >> it seems like there's a big payment problem. that insurance has not kept pace with the concern that you have, with the crisis concern that you have. that we don't treat brain health the same as we treat physical health. what can we do about that? >> so, we're many different approaches to addressing the issues around payment for mental health care. and you hit the nail on the head with your statement. the reality is that there have been challenges with payment for some time. and most parents will probably tell you they're paying for their services out of pocket,
even though they have insurance. and even if you have insurance or you're willing to pay out of pocket, there are long waits to see child adolescent psychiatrists or other mental health professionals. so, some of the things that we're doing to address that is we're looking at ways to diversify how families can access care. so, certainly, you know, there is legislation that we're supporting now to end some of that fragmentation, and to support better aligned payment structures. and to support parents so that when families have insurance, their insurance will cover mental health and physical health in the same place. some of the other things we're doing, we're actually trying to make access better for families. so families should be able to get their care in the same places they get their medical care. we're advocating for increased presence in primary care. and many pediatricians and primary care practices are able to access mental health
resources. we're look working to expand access in schools so children can receive the support they need in places where children are every day. so approaching these problems with access on multiple different levels, but the irthat you identified is important for families to advocate with insurance companies and manage care companies to be able to demand better support from mental health payment in addition to the legislative actions. >> i wish that some individual or group of individuals in washington would champion that issue. of trying to solve the payment problem that ask faced by so many families because, dr. benton, to go back to with i started, you point to those cdc numbers that show an escalating number of e.r. visits for huth and adolescents relative to mental health. how about all of those, for whatever reason, maybe it's
payment, maybe it's stigma, are not going and getting the treatment that they need. that's a real concern. >> that's an extremely important concern. i do want to say in response to your initial statement, there actually is tremendous bipartisan support for mental health in congress right now. so, i'm pleased to say there's a lot of legislative focus on this particular issue. and many of our legislators have taken this on as a major priority for our nation. so that's the good news. and it's a good opportunity for to us raise our voices and advocate for more support. they're educating themselves about the issues that you're identifying. then the other pieces are that, you know, for families who are concerned about mental health conditions, it's important to ask, starting with your pediatrician. because many families are concerned about the stigma. they're ashamed to let their families or others know that they're struggling with those concerns. you'd be surprised to know so many people are, you know, at least one-fifth of young people
in our country will struggle with the mental health condition over time. that's actually somewhat significant. a third, you know, of kids will be affected by some mental health condition in their lifetimes. and we know that less than 20% of those struggling with significant conditions won't receive the kind of care that they need. >> all the more -- all the more reason for a conversation like this. and thank you so much for your willingness to come on and discuss it. i appreciate it. >> thank you so much for having me. >> thanks dr. benton. let's see what you're saying via my smerconish and facebook stages. what do we have from twitter. if future years the kids will be much more resilient and adapt only than generations before them. leaders will come from this. in future years the kids will be much more resilient and adaptable. i don't know what gives you that sense of optimism. i'm not so sure that's the case.
i was channeling my peanut allergy question when i posed what i said to dr. benton which is, like, i grew up not knowing anybody with a peanut allergy. surely they will there, right? it's good news that we're aware and they can get the treatment they require. mental health, what explains this exponential growth? i'm not sure but we need to get them treated and paid for. still to come your tweets and we'll get the response from the survey question, unless you are vaccinated or recently tested, you should not be permitted to fly anywhere.
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time to see how you responded to this week's survey question at smerconish.com. you were asked to agree or disagree with this. unless you're vaccinated or recently tested, you should not be permitted to fly anywhere. agree or disagree. here's the result. wow. decisive. a, and with over 25, people are like nobody gets on the plane unless vaccinated are ones that come and vote on a survey question, but interesting nonetheless. 25,000 plus. 95% say yes, that's the right outcome. i am in the 95% for what it is worth. here's what came in during the program. the airlines, each airline should decide vaccine policy, not government. clifford, really? then have one airline that wants to appeal to those that don't believe, what if they say not only don't you have to be vaxxed or tested, you don't have to
wear a mask. the freedom airline. great. they fly to another city and spread the virus. no thank you. what else. the only time i have seen steadfast anti-vaxxors get vaccinated is to travel. so the mandatory vaccine travel rule would be an effective method to get people vaccinated and make air travel safer. first, when i came on air, i said the virus knows no boundaries. we won't solve this one country at a time. i think there's a tendency in the united states to play small ball. hike we are so insular. for us, the debate is about whether gavin newsom or ron desantis has the right approach. hey, california and florida. florida and california. meanwhile, sub saharan africa, nobody is vaccinated, relatively speaking and as long as they're not vaccinated, we're all in trouble. see you next week.
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