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eight others, including a teacher. some of these kids are in very bad shape right now. classroom video shows students barricading themselves as the shooter walks through the hallways. some of them managed to escape through a window. they were running for their lives through the snow. the suspect was taken into custody within two minutes of police arriving on scene we're told. this was the 651st mass shooting this year in 11 months. >> the weapon was purchased four days earlier by the boy's father. authorities believe the young mann acted alone. a shattered community north of detroit is coping with another senseless act of violence. governor whitner choked up as she described a parent's worst
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nightmare. >> joining us is dave collin, author of "new york times" best seller's columbine and parkland, birth of a movement. i like getting your perspective on these things. i have to be honest, i don't like seeing you because it's always for the same reason. your book columbine is a cautionary tale about making early conclusions because a lot of them can be wrong with the information you're getting. what questions do you also have about this shooting? >> i just tweeted yesterday afternoon. ugh. i have run out of words or reactions. i get more and more angry about these and that we're not doing anything. in fact, i do a lot of international interviews, too.
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those are very different tone. they pretty much always start with a question that is basically essentially like, what are you guys doing over there on guns? how come you haven't done anything? and why not and when are you going to do something? i spend time saying what we're doing. you can have different views on guns and gun safety and what should be done. i think people on both sides realize we need to be doing something and we have been stuck in nothing. and actually on the mental health and particularly on teen depression, which is where most of these problems lie, screening for it is a doable thing. we have done zilch in 20-some years >> as you have pointed out a
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lot, it is not just this big mass shootings. >> i want to show you where students were barricading inside a classroom. >> we're not willing to take that risk right now. . >> he said bro. red flag. . >> those students then crawled out of a window. they're not taking any chances. i wonder if it stands out just how savvy they have become. >> exactly. remember, i spent a lot of time with the parkland kids. i asked how shocked they were. some were.
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some said i was kind of expecting it. first of all, to put our children in situations where they're making those sort of decisions for their lives. they have gotten really smart about it. they have thought bit. this is the columbine generation and then some. they weren't born yet when columbine happened. it's ridiculous. specifically what questions i have are zilch. i no longer care about each individual case, what drove this little expletive which is, sorry, how i think about them now. i'm thinking only about the bigger picture and what this adds to what we can do about.
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i'm sick of looking at the past of what caused these individual things and for god's sake, solutions. >> what do you make of the parents? police say he surrendered while holding the firearm. his parents secured a lawyer. he is not speaking to police. what do you make of that? how does this affect this? >> i totally winced when i saw this. they don't want him to say anything foolish. we can only hope -- we don't know. we can only hope the parents do want to him to cooperate but be careful how they're doing it. but maybe not. it brings up an interesting point more and more we are seeing shooters live through it. that used to be extremely rare.
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almost none of them lived through it. most of them are studying each other. we learned that in their social media and so forth and journals. so they know they're not going to live through it. it is essentially a suicide because they know it will end in their death. it tells us a lot about what's going on. however, that was the case until about three-ish years ago. and more and more they're living through it. it is changing the dynamic of who these people are. they are stopping and surrendering. it is too early to draw conclusions. we're just starting to get a trend there, but it is definitely a trend where they are living through it. again, i think we need the psychologists to tell us what's going on there, if they know. we also -- i don't think we have had enough where we could interview them and sort of find
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out. i'm very curious about that aspect that's changing. hopefully it will shed life now that they are living through and they can tell us more. >> let's hope. it is a very interesting point that you raise there. but, look, this is a community in michigan that is in mourning. kids who are not going to be there for the holidays who were just at the thanksgiving table. it's beyond, beyond disturbing. dave cullen, thank you so much for being with us. >> thanks, brianna. so we do have breaking news this morning. donald trump tested positive for coronavirus three days before his first debate against joe biden september 29th, 2020. the stunning revelation is in a new book by former chief of staff mark meadows obtained by the guard yann. a positive test the country never knew about. a positive test days before he admitted to the country that he had covid. days before attending event after event after event with vulnerable people. now, there was a negative test
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the same day. it still raises all kinds of questions about honesty, trans transparency, timing and how they chose to choose one test rather than another. meadows writes he knew each candidate was required to test negative within 72 hours of the start time but nothing was going to stop trump from going out there. cnn has not confirmed any of this independently. we have reached out to all parties involved and are waiting to hear back. >> here is the timeline. on saturday the 26th, trump hosted a rose garden event for amy coney barrett. no masks. no social distancing. many who attended that event later would test positive. that is actually the day that he first tested positive. later, subsequently testing negative, according to meadows in this report, using a rapid test. not a pcr test here, which we will discuss with experts ahead. the very next day, trump
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attended an indoor event with gold star military families. military families who had lost their loved ones in the service of this nation. two days later, tuesday the 29th, trump was not tested at the debate because he arrived late. they allowed him on stage due to the honor system. later that week, thursdays 1st, he tested positive, according to his doctor. friday, the 2nd, he goes to the hospital in the evening. >> i want to bring in chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta and senior political analyst john avlon. sanjay, a positive covid test three days before the event, days before we were told the president did have covid. what questions does this raise for you and what should have happened inside the white house? . >> well, if this is true, i mean, this is incredibly reckless, obviously. keep in mind we're talking about someone who tested positive but also if it's true had symptoms.
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it wasn't an incidental test. he had symptoms, wasn't feeling well, and that was of concern. the way i read it this time, it sounds like, and reported extensively at the time, they were doing pcr tests at the white house. those are the gold standard tests. they did have these types at the white house. they come back in typically a half hour or so. it tested positive. that, in conjunction with him having symptoms, would have been to trigger isolation, contact tracing. three days later, putting other people at risk, including the
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potential president of the united states. this is a test done on has someone developed a high enough viral load. it is typically done in people who don't have symptoms. the question they are starting to ask is are they starting to become contagious? maybe that came back negative. they say that is more accurate test. not necessarily true. the pcr test is far and away more accurate. but the antigen test, at least he doesn't seem to be shedding that much virus now. regardless, pcr tested positive, symptomatic. we can show you what the protocols should have been at that point. he should have gone into isolation for 10 days and stayed until 10 days after his symptoms had started. it is another bizarre tale of this entire thing.
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>> some of this is confirming what we knew. we knew when he went to the hospital that told us something about the timeline, that it was more accelerated than he or the white house was letting on. how do you see this picture of someone putting so many people, his own family, joe biden, gold star families, his staff, congress, supreme court nominee potentially, although she had covid previously. what does it tell you about all the people being put at risk. >> it is a narcissism. in the context of our democracy, here's what really jumped out at me. at the first debate where we now have reason to believe that donald trump was -- did have covid. the source being here "the guardian"'s copy of mark meadows book.
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the source is his chief of staff. he is normally considered very credible when he is not lying for his boss. the honor system. it's a basic concept that a lot of our society builds around. and it does not apply to donald trump and his minions. they do not operate within the honor system. and the fact that all these supposedly responsible people, from chief of staff, to his personal doctor, will lie on behalf of the president, so easily, dropping all ethics and professional guidance, is itself a sickness that i think we need to confront more clearly. . >> it also suggests the possibility of a conspiracy inside the white house to hide from the american people what they suspect and reasonably feared, sanjay, a conspiracy possibly that included the white
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house doctor who was asked about the testing. i want to play the sound of the white house physician being asked about testing and listen to how squirrely the answer is. >> can you tell us when he had his last negative test? was it thursday? was it wednesday? do you remember when he had his last negative test? >> i don't want to go backwards. >> first of all, again, he's dodged the question there, sanjay. what responsibility to sean conley have? >> the responsibility was to take care of his patient and to do the thing that was clearly laid out in terms of protocols not only in this case for the health of his patient but also for the public health and all the people around his patient. if this is true, it is really reckless regardless if you're the president of the united states or somebody else. he was symptomatic. he was face-to-face with people. i think what they're going to say, what it sounds like they're
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saying, mark meadows, again, i'm not sure how they're going to frame this. but they will probably say, look, the pcr test came back positive but the antigen test which some people will say, look, that is the one that tells you if you're developing a contagiousness, that came back negative so nothing to worry about. that's not how it works. he needed to be in isolation. it's as simple as that. so they can sort of try and define this differently. but i think the protocols, what should have happened is very, very clear here. that was evasive. >> they were his administration's protocols. two or three days later he's coming down with covid. when dr. conley goes in front of the media, i want to look forward was trump speak for i'm lying to you right now. i'm not answering your question. and it also raises a question
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regarding the debate against joe biden. was the president's potential positive status a feature, not a bug, so to speak. nothing is beyond these people. in the middle of a pandemic, he's exposing gold star families, in addition to everyone around him, potentially. >> yeah. i believe sean conley is still active duty, just to be clear. member of the military at the time doing this. certainly there needs to be some kind of review of this and how military doctors are serving the president, as well as the american public. i do want to ask you, avlon, why would meadows do this now? why would this come out now? why put this out in this book now? >> it's a great question. he has been one of these folks for reasons related to the partisan economy, has been a trump loyalist. because the republican party is so frozen by trump that people's power comes in relation toing assess. it is hard to believe that donald trump wouldn't torch him as he does everybody ultimately
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for telling this truth. but also, when you publish a book, there's an expectation of some news, some truth in it. and it seems like the daily reality was just bad. and mark meadows can create whatever excuse is in miss mind. if this is the first nugget "the guardian" appears to have picked up from the chief of staff's book, it speaks to a greater pattern of irresponsibility and narcissism than even we knew, and we knew it was bad. >> it could be, one, meadows doesn't understand what the science is and thought the second test was a get out of jail free card. that's possible. and the second look is he was somehow proud of it. we have all learned to live with this. . >> we have only lost as many people as died in the civil war. don't forget. this administration, this president's irresponsibility, debbie birx has said led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of americans unnecessarily.
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>> sanjay, john, thank you both very much. in new ohm control variant spread to two dozen countries at this point. cnn is going inside a lab in south africa where the variant is being studied. we'll have a live report next. new republican infighting. a war of words between house members. what's the impact here? what's kevin mccarthy going to do really? and what is the conservative supreme court going to do about roe v. wade. it happens in just a few hours. yourur eyes. beautiful on the outside, but if you have diabetes, there can be some not-so-preretty stuff going on inside. it's true, with diabetic retinopathy, excess sugar can damage blood vessels, causing vision loss or even blindness. so remember this:
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brianna. yes, it is fascinating. there is emerging evidence that omicron is coming out of different parts of the world much earlier. not necessarily from southern africa but it was discovered here. and we went inside the lab. after tracking covid for many months at this lab, jeanine did you pleiss, first a trickle, then a flood at the lab. studying a disturbing variant of an old foe. >> there is so much that is so unknown about the variant. and we might feel a little hopelessness in a moment like that. >> they are expanding so fast putting them in freezers in the hall way. as this wave develops, they will be operating 24 hours a day.
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>> they know how bad it gets. this was delta's awful impact in johannesburg. in july, patients stacked in hallways struggling to breathe in exclusive footage obtained by cnn. at the lab and all across the globe, they are trying to understand if on 'em kron is more transmissible, deadlier. what does it feel like the entire world hanging on this discovery that was figured out here initially? >> i mean, it can -- does feel surreal when you watch the news and you see the impact it's having globally. and you think, wow, you think of stock markets and airlines and people's travel plans. you don't plan to have that ripple effect. >> a spike in cases first happened in pretoria with a cluster infection at this technical university.
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but hips of a new variant were first detected by scientists and pat pathologists at lancet laboratories. they noticed a strange anomaly. it happened over and over again. it reminded them of tests for the alpha variant first detected a year ago in the uk. what was it like to see this anomaly cropping up again? >> it was disturbing. because we were dealing with something new. there&was there an increase in positivity rate. we could be dealing with a new variant. >> reporter: they urgently notified the team. they described and made public disturbing details of the highly mutated virus. scientists are trying to
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understand omicron. >> why was it so important to alert everybody about this. why not just keep quiet about what you find? we know a new variant is likely to have an increase in case, whether severe or not. >> reporter: the big question, is this more severe or not and even less severe. at least at this stage pathologists and doctors say they are noticing that it's not as serious as possibly earlier waves. though very much too early to say. could take two to three weeks. the message here and around the world is get max nated if you haven't already if you live in a place you can get a vaccine and booster. >> we heard from one doctor saying patients saying this isn't much different than the
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received. >> i would love the opportunity to take you off the face of the [ bleep ] earth. come it [ bleep ] you [ bleep ] muslim piece of [ bleep ], you he's hadist. we know what you are. you're a [ bleep ] traitor. you will not live much longer, [ bleep ], i can almost guarantee you that. al franken is the host of the al franken podcast. that voice mail is repugnant. it comes after lauren boebert repeatedly we now know made these clearly anti-muslim bigoted jokes about ilhan omar. so you now see the consequences of this. and you see consequences of kevin mccarthy taking no public stand here. >> it's amazing he didn't take
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any action against gosar who did, what's it called -- >> fantasy anime murder video. . >> yeah. and, you know, any workplace in america, you know, it would be like, bob, did you put out a video of you killing one of your employees here? yes, i did. you can't do that. really? it was kind of meant to be a joke. and mccarthy won't discipline them at all. but will discipline the 13 republicans if they get the majority, take away their chairmanships, the ones who voted for infrastructure. which the republicans tried to do and didn't achieve during trump. they are for infrastructure until they are against it because biden is the president. it is so dysfunctional.
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it is so cynical. it's really a sad -- i can't believe how dysfunctional that place is. >> there are some republicans inside congress who are speaking out against this kind of behavior. nancy mace from south carolina condemned what boebert said. as a result, marjorie taylor greene attacked nancy mace. i want to play some of the sound from her last night. >> what it says to me is that if you say something that's bat-shut crazy, you're going to raise money. that is the only reason she does that. she is a grister of the first order. and she does it to raise money. >> again, she's talking about marjorie taylor greene here. >> i'm offended she said bat-shut. >> is that a battle nancy mace can win? >> probably not in this republican party. which is amazing.
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it's amazing. they have become -- this is as bad as i've ever seen it. and it's gotten worse and worse and worse, and i don't know when it's going to stop. this is frightening. and the marjorie taylor greenes and the boeberts, not only exist but are popular and have these huge followings. it's frightening. >> mehmet oz announced he is going to run for senate in pennsylvania. first of all, your immediately reaction to that? >> my immediate reaction is they don't have a front-runner. he's a tv personality. he knows how to be on tv. people know him. we've seen that before recently. me, but also trump.
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i think we shouldn't underestimate him. on the other hand, people should look at -- he's been against vaccine mandates. we have to we would stop this if we had mandates. if everyone got vaccinated. also, he's kind of a snake oil salesman. i think people have to go back and look at some of the stuff he's been selling, supplements and all that kind of stuff. it's pretty hanky. >> before you ran for senate in minnesota, you were much more involved in the political world. >> yeah. a lot of a big difference. >> but what did you learn about running as someone who had been a celebrity beforehand. >> well, i had been a comedian. one thing i learned is that the press has a vested interest in
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january 6th continues to try to get to the bottom of that terrible day for our democracy. if only to prevent it from happening again. what if i told you there are already laws on the books designed for just that purpose. john avlon has a reality check. >> donald trump doesn't want you to see the white house documents about attempts to overturn the election around january 6thment that's why his lawyers were back in court desperately trying to block the release from the archives and record administration. keep in mind, these are your documents. they belong not to him but the american people. what they are trying to avoid is not just legal accountability but transparency. knowing they will be judged not only in court but the eyes of history. we have never had a sitting president attempt to overturn an election before. that doesn't mean we have never confronted insurrection and sedition before. the civil war was sparked in part by refusal to accept the legitimacy of abe lincoln.
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in the aftermath of the war, the civil war generation passed laws designed to protect america from insurrections in the future. those laws might once have seemed like historic relics. lately they've been getting another look, and with good reason. last week a jury in charlottesville, virginia, awarded $26 million in damages against the white nationalists who organized and participated in the violent unite the right rally spearheaded by integrity first for america demonstrated that the defendants, including neo nazis and neo con fed rats were guilty of conspireing to commit acts of violence. while the jury deadlocked on federal skhacharges it was significant that they invoked an 1871 kkk law. it makes it a federal crime to commit racially or politically motivated violence.
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for example, using force, intimidation or threat to prevent someone from voting or holding office. it shouldn't be a surprise that this was the same law that bennie thompson invoked against trump, rudy giuliani and proud boys and oath keepers, trying to stop joe biden's win. while they dropped the suit with his co-chair january 6th committee, that same law is the basis for an naacp lawsuit. that is not the only post civil war law that could impose accountability for insurrection. the fourteenth amendment section 3 was designed to bar people from holding elected or appointed office going forward. and this wasn't supposed to be limited to the civil war. as a senator explained at the time, being a permanent provision of the constitution,
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it is intended to operate as a pro ventive of treeson here after, a measure of self-defense. but in that prohibition seems too high a bar, there is also a criminal penalty which specifically covers incitement. if that's not enough, there is even a separate criminal staofp chute for seditious conspiracy. while investigators indicated there would likely be seditious spear tore charges, so far they have not emerged under ag garland. even in the new case of a new conspiracy indictments against members of a group called patriots 45 maga gang. one defendant messaged his crew, we need to violently remove traitors. and if they're in key positions, rapidly replace them with able-bodied patriots. so the line from the doj to date seems to be conspiracy, yes. sedition, no. but if january 6th wasn't sedition or insurrection, what
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the hell is? these laws are on the books for a reason. they're the tools we were given by the civil war generation to defend our democracy and holdac. we are only inviting further escalation. because as berman and bree like to remind us, without accountability, an attempted insurrection is just practice. and that's your reality check. yes. we borrow that phrase and borrow it often because it is true, john avlon. thank you for that great reality check. a firsthand look at the addiction crisis in america. and we are live at the supreme court where the monumental arguments over pwaorbgz rig abortion rights are about to take place. yeah. ♪ i love finding out things
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what a pain in the a— alice? if it's “let's wrap this up” season, it's walgreens season. cnn is suspending anchor and our colleague chris cuomo indefinitely. new documents revealed he was more involved than previously known in shaping the defense for his brother, former new york governor andrew cuomo, who faced sexual misconduct allegations. brian stelter joins me now with the news on this. brian? >> news about our own house here. cuomo, one of the highest rated hosts on cnn, this was a long time coming. cuomo in the news all year long because of his brother and because of the scandal involving the now former governor. it was known that chris cuomo was talking to his brother, giving political advice, but in
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the newly released documents you can see that chris cuomo is essentially working as an unpaid adviser, an aide, as if he's a staffer of the governor's, giving political advice and giving commentary, also working his own sources to try to find out more about what might be revealed about his brother. here's the statement from cnn overnight about the suspension saying when chris admitted to us he offered advice to his brother, he broke our rules and we acknowledged that publicly. we also appreciated the unique position he was in. and understood the need to put family first and job second. however, these documents point to a greater level of involvement in his brother's efforts than we previously knew, and as a result we have suspended chris indefinitely pending further evaluation. that's the statement from cnn executives overnight. i think what's going on here, it is a little complicated. you have media critics condemning chris, calling on cnn to take action. you have colleagues here at cnn who were mad at chris cuomo for putting the network in a tough spot and wanted to see action. you also have a lot of viewers, though, who love chris cuomo and
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are now ticked off that he's off the air and want to see him back. there is a mixture of relief, disappointment, it is a complicated situation. i think the bottom line is that cuomo is on the bench for now, we're heading into a holiday season, i think it is possible he will be on the bench for several weeks, it is possible he'll be back in january. but i think what is going to happen now at cnn is a more thorough review of the new york attorney general's document dump to find out more about what happened. >> brian stelter, thank you very much for that. the nation's first overdose prevention centers are now open in new york city. they -- the city says that the supervised injection sites will provide users with a safer place to administer drug and get medical care if they overdose. the move comes as the cdc announced that more than 100,000 people died of drug overdoses in the u.s. during a 12-month period that ended in april. and that is up nearly 30%. joining me now with part two of cnn's new series united states of addiction, kyung lah is with
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us. this is so important, this reporting. what did you find? >> when you look at the numbers, brianna, and methamphetamines, they're just as stark. nearly every single state in this country that reports data to the cdc shows that meth overdoses increased last year. it is a problem that is getting worse. it is a dangerous drug with an impact that police are increasingly seeing on american streets. fresno county sheriff deputy todd burk. >> are you okay? you get out of the road, please. >> reporter: on his typical graveyard shift, digging away night after night -- >> you're out here doing drugs. >> reporter: -- at a deadly national crisis. >> we're trying to help you. something is causing her to panic and be paranoid. >> reporter: that something is likely the drug law enforcement most often sees in the central california county. >> methamphetamine. when is the last time you used? very common for meth users that
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smoke it. but this is also common way to use methamphetamine, they inject it. >> reporter: this needle belongs to this driver. >> your car is expired big time. >> i know. >> reporter: this man says deputy burk can search his car. >> needles in the car? >> reporter: and talks to us about his addiction. he asked we don't show his face. do you use a lot? >> i've been using a lot on and off all the time, you know, since 13. >> reporter: why did you get started when you were 13? >> i have an older brother who i looked up to. he just found like that, he wanted to introduce it to me, i guess. since i'm a kid, i'm going to say to my bigger brother, you know. from there on, just took control. >> reporter: would you say you're a meth user? >> of course. i'm a drug addict. >> reporter: he had been in and out of prison and says he just lost his job as a forklift driver that paid $25 an hour. he took meth just yesterday, worried about how he would take care of his family. how old are your kids? >> 7 and 5.
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>> reporter: and how old are you? >> 28. i'm trying to stay straight so i can have my kids straight. >> reporter: how many people do you know that does meth? >> everyone. >> it is such an addictive drug, they can't get rid of it, can't stop it. even if they want to stop it, they can't, their body won't allow them to. >> reporter: every single stop he makes on this shift involves meth. >> having a hard time? you need a program? methamphetamine would be the number one drug use in fresno. it is so easy to obtain. it is not difficult. it is all over the streets out here. >> reporter: new cdc data shows meth is all over the country's streets and it is getting worse. more than 1 in 4 overdose deaths this year involved meth and other psychostimulants. that's up nearly 50% from last year. in california, deaths were up 64% year on year. and in fresno, no other drug
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including fentanyl comes even close to the death rate of meth. >> it is not the same dope. it is different. >> reporter: former department of justice special agent bob panel says dealers used to cook meth from ephedrine in super labs. >> we would see nothing but blister packs. you had to have pseudoephederine. >> reporter: now mexican cartels use common chemical agents in megalabs. >> they're like costco. they're huge, huge industrial sized buildings. they're basically warehouses. >> reporter: and you can manufacture it now at a much higher quantity. smuggled across the border as liquid, difficult to detect means cheap prices. and high supply impacting life across fresno. >> not even meth anymore. >> reporter: do you feel different on today's meth than the stuff -- >> more violent. >> reporter: more violent? john chapman lives in the neighborhood deputy burk patrols. while he shares a common story -- >> i think i was 11, 11 1/2
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years old when i started. >> reporter: who introduced it to you when you were 11? >> i'm going to say my mom did. >> reporter: your mom gave you meth? at age 55, he managed to quit. >> my legs will start spazzing and stuff like that from it. >> reporter: because of the meth? >> yeah, it gave me nerve damage. it fries your brain. >> reporter: if you kept going what would happen to you? >> i would be dead. >> reporter: there is no life saving antidote for meth overdoses. that's why deputy burk keeps pressing, night after night. >> i want to see somebody who is constantly high on methamphetamine to change their life, become a productive citizen. i think they want it as well. you're all done? >> reporter: while we joined fresno law enforcement for this story, this is a problem not limited to fresno, not limited to california. there are eight states, brianna, that log higher od numbers than the state of california, including virginia,
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massachusetts and mississippi. brianna? >> i just -- i really appreciated you speaking to people who were fighting this and who have fought this. i think it is illuminating and this reporting is so essential. kyung, thank you for it. >> you bet. "new day" continues right now. good morning to our viewers here in the united states and all around the world. it is wednesday, december 1st. i'm john berman, with brianna keilar. we have a lot of breaking news today. the supreme court is about to hear oral arguments in what could possibly be the most consequential abortion rights case since roe v. wade. >> the case today centers around a mississippi law that bans most abortions after 15 weeks. it grants no exception for rape or incest. pro life and pro choice protesters gathered in anticipation of this ruling. so let's go to cnn's jessica schneider who is live from the supreme court. jess? >> reporter: good morning, brianna. this is one of the most consequential cases this court has heard in


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