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including denver, yet to have their first measurable snowfall. less than 8% of the lower 48 has any snow cover. but that will change. we've got a system across the northern tier likely to dump pretty decent snow starting tomorrow. >> snow in hawaii. who would have thought? >> pack a parka. allison chinchar thanks so much. >> thanks. ♪ buenos dias, good morning. it's saturday, december 4th. i'm boris sanchez, welcome to your "new day." >> and i'm christi paul. hi, boris. >> good to see you. >> we have breaking news this morning. >> yeah, we start in michigan were james and jennifer crumpbly, the parents of the oxford high school student is
set to be arraigned on manslaughter. police arrested them in a warehouse where they were hiding. this is exclusive footage to cnn in the moments right after they were apprehended. this followed an hours' long manhunt for the fugitives who were supposed to turn themselves in tuesday. >> how they were led under surveillance that is something they say needs to be dealt with. oakland county sheriff michael bouchard did admit his officers were stretched thing in investigating this tracking. >> surveillance team is quite a few people. and they work around the clock. those people are working the actual homicide. so, i would have had to have pulled them off of investigating the deaths at the school. we have to interview thousands of people that were in and around the school. we have go through hundreds and thousands of hours of digital evidence. >> it is an expansive job,
obviously. cnn's athena jones is outside of the sheriff's office. athena, what are they saying this morning? >> reporter: good morning, boris and christi. we know that james and jennifer crum crumb ley are said to be arraigned this morning. now that they've made this escape, it's very unlikely they'll have a low bail, because they are clearly people trying to escape. we know that they withdrew $4,000 from an atm over the course of yesterday, over the course of friday. we know it took several hours for law enforcement, not just detroit police, but also fbi, u.s. marshals to track these people down. they did so with the tip of a business owner in the community. listen to what the detroit police chief had to say about tracking that couple down last night. >> see something, say something.
again, our community has been amazing. thank you, community. thank you for working with us, partnering with this police agency. there have been a number of cases repeatedly that we could not have gotten where we are without our community. tonight, again, our community came through for us so thank you very much. >> reporter: so jennifer and james crumbley will be facing four counts of involuntary manslaughter. and the oakland county prosecutor karen mcdonald explained why it was important to hold these parents accountable because they were criminally negligent. and their actions could have saved the lives of these four teenagers and seven others injured. listen to karen mcdonald. >> i couldn't imagine not holding those two people responsible. they bought a weapon for their son. and had every reason to believe, at least the day before, and certainly the morning of, that
he was very likely going to commit a violent act. and they did nothing. they did nothing. they allowed him to go back to class and walked out of that building and never once thought or cared enough to say to a school official or anyone else, our son has a gun. >> reporter: and so there you heard it directly from the oakland county prosecutor who will begun telegraphing that these charges would be coming at least the day before. on a press conference on thursday she said she might have charges against the parents within the next 24 hours. that is what happened. so that is why there are so many questions how they were allowed to escape over the course of hours over the course of thursday and friday. christi, boris. >> thank you so much. athena jones. >> we're going to talk to someone who knows this pran and heartbreak so well. nicole hockley's 6-year-old son dylan was killed during the
sandy hook shooting. she's the co-founder and ceo of sandy hook promise which advocates for gun legislation to protect our children. nicole, i'm so glad to have you with us. thank you. we just heard why the parents are being charged. i know you advocate for the importance of if you see something, say something. and in this case what is so striking is not only were the parents told something, they were shown something. they were shown these notes that were found from their son that depicted violence against people. and had words like the thoughts won't stop. help me. and my life is useless, the world is dead. what is your gut reaction to the lack of action that was taken by these parents? >> honestly, i think the lack of action is unconscionable. we teach our kids across the country every day -- when they see something, when something is
concerning, to speak up. and we having to vigilant about these warning signs. it sounds like some students tried to report things. the teachers tried to report things. but for parents not to take that seriously and to take action for a child that clearly needed help that is unconscionable. and that is unforgivable in my opinion. >> you know, you last spring wrote a piece on gun control legislation. and notably pointed out this falls on the shoulders of congress. as the ceo of the sandy hook promise organization, again, you are on a mission to protect children from gun violence. do you feel congress has heard you? >> i feel congress has listened, but i don't think they've taken enough action. there's a lot that we can do in our schools and communities, and that's the actions that we're taking every day that are saving lives. but we also need laws to enforce
these actions. and i think congress has stalled on a lot of the simplest things we need to do such as background checks and protection orders those are things that could have made a difference as well. >> what do you think as a blockade? >> i think a blockade is we're a country more interested in politics. i think politics are getting in the way of what's right for people and what's important and that is protecting our kids and creating a more inclusive society. this is in our power. we just need to get over our egos. >> you write in this article for cnn.com last spring, you write something that is -- i think, striking to every parent. you write every day i kiss the urn that holds my son's ashes wondering what his life would have been like. this obviously is a very difficult week for you. because this is the time of year when that shooting happened.
and when you feel all of that come up again. how did this shooting this week and seeing that affect you? >> every school shooting affects me in a large -- in a significant way. every shooting, regardless of whether it's a school shooting, the loss of life is tragic. and i understand a parent's feeling at this moment. when it comes in december, though, i'm not going to lie, it hits me that much harder because i'm already very sensitive leading up to 12-14 and the remembrance of my son being murdered. >> i'm so sorry. i cannot imagine. and i don't think any of us parents can really imagine what this has to be like for all of you. what -- if you could sit down with ethan crumbley's parents, is there anything you'd want to
say to them? >> i'm not sure i'd have words to speak to the shooter's parents. i would much more prefer to speak to the parents of the community of those who lost children, whose children were murdered or wounded. and the community that is facing the ongoing trauma and ripple effects of this tragedy. i would want to give them my kindness and my compassion and my unfortunate lived experience that they'll survive this, but it would be very hard to treat them kindly and with deep compassion. >> is there anything that was said to you in those moments that you repeat when talking to parents who now are in this unfortunate instance of sharing an experience like this? i asked what you would say to their parents. what specifically would you say to the parents of the people who now know that pain that you
feel, on a very real raw level? >> i think i would remind them that this is irreparable damage to your heart and your family. and you can find a way forward and through this. and honestly some of the advice that i received from president biden when he was vice president, a man who has experienced significant tragedy himself. his advice around keeping a marker for each day and rating it. and you might never get a 10 day again which is a great day. and you might be in the low 1s and 2s for a long period of time. but over time, you will see the numbers getting higher as you find your way forward again. that was advice that he gave to me and my mother and other people. and other advice that i hold close to my heart. >> nicole hockley, you are so strong. thank you so much for the mission that you're on and for the work that you do because there are so many parents that
need you. nicole hockley, thank you. >> thank you. thank you. >> before we go to break, we want to take another moment to remember the students who lost their lives and show you their faces, tate myre was 16 years old. madisyn baldwin was 17. >> you see hana st. juliana who was just 14 years old. and justin shilling who was 17. certainly, thoughts and prayers. and hopefully outpouring of some sort going to all of those parents in that community. we'll be right back. umpire: ball! good eye! good eye! eyes are gooood for lots of things. like reading! be the best, caleb! statistically impossible, caleb. umpire: strike three, you're out!! you'll get 'em next time! or you won't, probably won't. and it won't impact your future whatsoever!
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surge. >> it also comes as a list of states in the united states detecting the new omicron variant continues to grow. though health experts warn that the delta variant is still a major threat. let's go to cnn's nadia romero joins us live. nadia, some of these numbers are trending in the wrong direction? >> absolutely, boris and christi, and people on the front lines of fighting this family are all pointing to the timing. this comes just after last weekend. holiday travelers for thanksgiving reached a level, going through airports according to tsa. and now all of the other holidays upcoming throughout the rest of this month. but health experts still argue that the vaccine, the booster shot, that is still your best bet against this variant and others. >> so there are like millions upon millions of tiny microscopic wells on here. >> reporter: about 30,000 covid-19 positive samples tested every day by north carolina per
day by mako medical. a key staff in tracing the spread of the omicron variant. >> every time is transmits from one person to another person is another chance for the virus to mutate and change into something different. >> reporter: last week, south africa was the first to identify it had identified the omicron variant, but we already know since then that the variant was president in the united states. the day after thanksgiving, the biden administration announced travelers from eight countries in south africa would not be allowed into the u.s., sparking international criticism. but a week later, the administration making this announcement. >> already we have shipped for free with no strings attached if 91 million doses to 110 different countries. that's more vaccines donated and shipped by the united states than all other countries in the combined. >> reporter: a welcomed move by the world health organization. >> and that is great because i'm sorry that it took omicron to make people understand how serious this is.
but, of course, we have been saying and you've been saying that we need to vaccinate the whole world so we don't give the virus a chance to turn itself into a more effective version. >> reporter: to fight the variant the makers of vaccine they had is he can't modify their vaccine formula, but 2 will take time. >> if we develop a new vaccine, we will most likely not be able to prevent the wave of infections with the new vaccine because it will take 100 days to develop and distribute a new vaccine. or start to distribute a new vaccine. >> reporter: while the omicron variant is already here, the full extent of its potential to wreak havoc is still unknown. >> what we doll know that earl data and mutation data is telling us this may be more
transmissible variant than delta. so this will take time to sort out. >> the new biden administration travel policy starts on monday. all international travelers will need to have a negative covid-19 test the day before they fly. but boris and christi, there is no travel restriction for domestic travelers. >> nadia romero, thank you so much. we appreciate it. right now, the race is on to catch and stop the new covid variant in its tracks. but how exactly does the u.s. do that. cnn got access to a lab that's already identified several confirmed cases of the omicron variant in the united states. and is on the cutting edge of protecting the every dangering virus. cnn's diane gallagher has the story. >> reporter: this is the front line for omicron in the u.s. after you finish that often uncomfortable covid test. it's usually shipped to a place like mako medical laboratories just outside of raleigh, north
carolina. >> 10,000 square feet of just covid testing. >> reporter: the sequencing samples taken in more than 40 states. >> 30,000 per day is how many we're processing right now. that's about 100,000 or so per week. >> reporter: labs like this are key in detecting the omicron variant in the united states because of what they do after identifying a positive test. >> as of right now, we're at the point where we're sequencing every positive that we get. >> reporter: genomic sequencing complicated and expensive in the testing that identifies the line of virus is the only way to identify the new omicron variant. mako is just one of 60 labs that does sequencing for the cdc national network. >> i would say it takes between two or three days to actually get the sequence from confirming a sample as positive to library pressing the dna. and then to actually sequencing
that library. >> reporter: the world health organization and the cdc declared omicron a variant of concern after it was flagged by scientists in south africa. a mutation in the omicron variant causes a peculiar test result called an s-gene dropout. >> n-gene is the blue curve and the then the s-gene. >> reporter: making a suspicious case easy to spot for expedited sequencing. >> we have about six samples that have that significant s-gene dropout. >> reporter: but sequencing is required to confirm omicron because it isn't the only variant with that marker. scientists at mako say they've seen many different variants throughout the pandemic. some like delta become the z dominant strain. while others fade quickly or don't take off. for now there's no way to know
what the impact of omicron. >> every time it transmits from a person to another person is another chance for the virus to mutate and change into something different. so being able to monitor it highlights the importance of testing, right? without a testing, you really have no baseline to understand what's going on. >> reporter: now, one of those so-called suspicious samples can wrap up sequencing and it turned out it was not the omicron variant. there are still six finishing up that process. the expectation is the sequencing should be completed sometime on friday. and those results will be reported to the cdc. but, of course, labs like this are receiving tens of thousands of new samples from covid tests every single day. and so these numbers are fluid and will likely change in the weeks to come. diane gallagher, cnn, henderson, north carolina. >> diane, thank you. so you might look at dr. mehmet oz for health advice.
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week, joining more than a dozen other republican candidates. and we should point out after the trump-backed front-runner dropped out over allegations of domestic abuse, the primary field is now wide open. cnn political commentator charlie dent joins us now. he's a former republican congressman from pennsylvania. and he's now the executive director of the aspen institute's congressional program. good morning, charlie, appreciate you joining us this morning. dr. oz has repeatedly praised trump during his initial interviews on fox news. it seems like he's vying for the former president's endorsement. and trump remains popular among republicans in the commonwealth. do you see any path for dr. oz without trump's support? >> well, i think dr. oz has a few issues to deal with. first, i might be the only guy in america who have never seen his television show. >> okay. >> a lot of people have so he has a lot of celebrity.
here's his challenge. he was hauled into the senate a few years ago because of some quack theories or therapies on weight loss. so he's got that to deal with. but his bigger challenge is his residence. he lives it in bergen county, new jersey. and his medical license, his mother-in-law lives there. but he lives in the state. carla sands and another one who might be david mccormick who is being considered. he lives in connecticut. the point i'm making these carpetbagger issues are very serious. and i ran against the guy in 2004, the first time i ran for congress. the guy wasn't from the district. i'll tell you what, that's the only issue i talked about in the campaign. and it was about what we called an 80% issue. people cared about it.
so dr. oz may get the trump endorsement but there are people in pennsylvania, bradford county it tioga, they may raise issues about this. why you should represent us in washington in you've never lived here. >> interestingly, he has made covid and the government's response to covid, in a central talking point in the points he's had. and even in his campaign announcement. i want you to listen to what he said in his announcement, matter of fact. >> covid has shown us that our system is broken. we lost too many lives, too many jobs and too many opportunities because washington got it wrong. it took away our freedom without making us safer. and tried to kill our spirit and our dignity. >> a scene from his show, that set in the background, very manicured. how do you think his campaigning on covid is going to resonate with voters that you're familiar with in pennsylvania?
>> well, what dr. oz should hope for is that voters focus on issues, whether it's covid or any other issue, rather than his residency. so he should hope for that. that said, i think it's a mistake for candidates to pander to the unvaccinated which are what too many are doing because there are a lot more people who are vaccinated. so i think that's a problem. it's clear, too, he's evolved politically. i have read that he was devoted to political figures like arnold schwarzenegger, moderate republicans. it seems that dr. oz is shifting towards the trumpian model, hoping to get that endorsement. so, i would just simply say that, you know, conspiracy theorys typically don't go over well. it might help him in a primary but they won't help him very much in a general election. at the end of the day, the race is going to be about the general election and republicans should
do well in 2022, but it's a competitive state. and you just can't afford erosion over issues like sp conspiracy theorys. >> charlie, i'm glad you mentioned the trumpian model. some are warming up to the candidacy, and quote, it's great to have someone who certainly is a game-changer from the very first moment. who doesn't love a guy who has 100% name i.d. and a whole bunch of money. taking a step back and looking more broadly at the state of the republican party, there are a lot more celebrity candidates, whether herschel walker or caitlyn jenner. what does that tell you about the state of the gop? >> we've had candidates, candidates who could sell fun in the case of dr. oz. what tells me, dr. oz is running in pennsylvania because he doesn't see a path to winning in
his home state of new jersey. carla sands running in pennsylvania, she's running because she doesn't have a path forward in california. and david mccormick who might run, who is a very solid person, but he lives in connecticut so obviously no path there. so, i think they're choosing the state where is they think they have a path. and they think that in some cases their celebrity or their wealth can propel them. i don't think this is necessarily knew. just the fact that this is a republican year that they want to run in a state where they have a decent chance for success. >> it looks like you're calling the race for pat toomey's seat a race for carpetbaggers, charlie? >> well, i'd like to say this, it's not necessarily a disqualifying issue. i mentioned sands grew up in pennsylvania. mccormick has a strong pennsylvania pedigree, too. but he's been in connecticut for
years. and jeff bartos running in pennsylvania. from philadelphia. a pure pennsylvanian, i'm sure say person like that who is a solid person will make this an issue as with democrats if one of these folks breaks through. it's not necessarily a disqualifying issue. but in a race where the state will be competitive you just can't afford any erosion. all candidates come to a race with assets and liabilities. many of these candidates have assets but that's a liable. residency is a big deal to a lot of people. and i don't think they should underestimate how powerful that can be in the minds of many people who spent their lives in the state. >> former congressman charlie dent. we've got to leave the conversation there. always appreciate hearing from you. >> thank you, boris. >> of course. stay with cnn. we'll be right back. now introdug ensure complete! with 30 grams of protein.
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dramatic arguments concerning a mississippi law banning abortion after 15 weeks. the law is a direct challenge to abortion rights established by the landmark roe v. wade in 1973. and reaffirmed by planned parenthood v. casey in 1952. mississippi attorney general scott stewart took aim at those. >> roe v. wade and planned parenthood versus casey haunt our county. they have no basis in the constitution. they have no home in the democratic process. they have damaged the process. >> reporter: and grilled stewart. >> will this institution survive the stench that this creates in the public perception that the constitution and its reading are just sppolitical acts?
i don't see how it is possible. >> reporter: while chief justice john roberts appeared to be looking for a middle ground to allow states to ban abortion earlier 23 to 24 weeks. >> why would 15 weeks be an inappropriate line? viability seems to me doesn't have anything to do with choice. >> reporter: justice alito seemed to want to go further. >> the fetus has an interest in having a life, and that doesn't change, does it from the point before viability to the point after viability. >> reporter: u.s. solicitor attorne attorne attorne attorney general elizabeth prelogger ruled -- >> nearly half of the states already have or are expected to enact terms on abortion on all
stages of pregnancy, many without exceptions for rape or incest. >> reporter: the court's 6-3 conservative jury seemed poised to uphold the mississippi law but it's unclear whether there was majority to end the federal right to abortion. the keynote justice kavanaugh appeared skeptical that pregnancies and fetuses can both be contact dated. >> the reason this is hard is that you can't accommodate both interests. you have to pick. that's the fundamental problem. >> reporter: we don't expect an opinion in this case until june or even early july when major rulings are released. the justices also recently heard arguments on a texas abortion law that prohibits most abortions on that state.
don't have a decision on that case either, so we may have to wait until early summer for any answers on this critical issue. paula reid, cnn, washington. >> paula, thank you, joining me is robin marty operations director at the women's center in tuscaloosa. she's also an authorize of hand for post roe america. thank you for being with us. in the state of mississippi, many people believe there they're already in a post-roe existence. do you agree with that and what does that look like? >> very much so. i think through much of the gulf south from texas to florida, it had been a post-roe position for a period of time. most of them have 24 to 48-hour waiting period where is a patient needs to come in, see a doctor and then leave for at least 24 to 48 hours and then
return to the clinic which is difficult for people who don't live anywhere near a city that has a clinic. we've been experiencing this for quite some time, and for the last three months with most of the clinics closed it's become a kalts strove down here. >> in what way. help us understand on a daily basis what you're dealing with? >> sure, since september we've seen not just an increase in mississippi patients here, but we're now seeing patients from louisiana and texas. this would have been absolutely unheard of before the texas law went in effect. we did always see mississippi patients simply because the state has only had one clinic for so long but often it was too full for people to get into, and they would come across the border to us. having patients come in from louisiana is completely new to us. having patients come over from texas is a couple hundred miles, it's a long way for them to go. and it's highly, highly unusual.
but they have found out that clinics in states to the north and west which don't have waiting periods are having weeks, up to two to three weeks' wait to get an appointment. we're the closest place for them to come and get an abortion before it becomes too late in the pregnancy. >> are you preparing overall for roe v. wade to be overturned? and if you are, what are you doing? >> >> at this point, all we can do is make sure everybody who needs an abortion can get in to see us as quickly as possible. for us in alabama, one thing we've been able to do for what has changed a whole lot for a patient, we've allowed them to receive their cowboysing materials at home in their home states. and when they receive it, that starts their 48-hour wait. so they only need to come into the clinic for one appointment. that's been a huge change for a lot of people. and probably why we're seeing an
increase inpatients. once roe is overturned, one thing we need to look for in alabama -- remember, alabama passed a law 2014 that all abortion under any circumstance could be completely illegal. so if roe v. wade is overturned, what our clinic will need to do is look at how we can best service those who are going to try to get their own abortions somewhere else. they're going to need to have a safe place where they can come and find out if they've accomplished their abortion if they have complications because they're not going to be able to go to their doctors or their hospitals. they're going to be afraid of being arrested. what's going to happen in post-roe america, people are still going to have abortions. it's whether or not they're going to address complications or be put in jail if they seek help. >> robin marty, we appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> of course. we'll be right back.
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♪ secretary of state antony blinken says the u.s. will soon announce its diplomatic approach to the 2022 olympic games in beijing. it come as midcalls for a bot cot and concerns over human rights abuses and after the women's tennis association announced it would suspend all of its tournaments in china because of chinese tennis star peng shuai. she's been censored and has not been seen outside of chinese state media since accusing a top chinese official of sexual assault. joining us to discuss is christine brennan, she's a cnn sports analyst and columnist for "usa today." good morning, christine. how do you expect this to play out? >> well, it's certainly a big, big story and the world's biggest me too story. and we've seen the wta, boris, just handle it beautifully.
with wonderful leadership in the 21st century. the ceo of the wta should be placed on mount rush smore, he' terrific. he's basically saying no, we're not going to take to the nonsense that the chinese are talking about. he's saying it. and he's done a great job. the olympic committee has done a horrible job. they're royals. or they think they're royaltity. they're clueless and don't know how to handle these things. and they haven't given any satisfaction that peng shuai is safe. and the sexual assault that peng shuai has leveled against the top chinese official. a very different view of two sports organizations and how they handle a very important issue in the 21st century. >> we have to see how the biden
administration handles a boycott or calls for a boycott. it's not just peng shuai and the difficult situation she's in, it's also the treatment of uighurs. >> yeah. i will say, there's not going ton a athlete boycott, boris. there's no, but a diplomatic boycott to be a symbolic gesture but do one wants to restrict the opportunity to perform in the olympics. >> of course. i want to you can about lebron james, he cleared the health and safety protocol. after a claim of a false test. he was pretty upset about it what do you make of this response? >> with the nba protocols what he's saying they're not entirely set or not entirely bulletproof. you know, are they following the rules or are they not? we certainly listen to lebron
james, when he says they didn't follow the protocol. we're almost two years into the pandemic. and we saw the nba handle it so beautifully last year with their bubbles. this year, not easy. i also think whoever is right on this, whether it's the nba or whether there were mistakes made or whether lebron is, you know, in some way right or wrong on this issue, i think it shows just how difficult it to play a sport, internationally, nationally, whatever, in the midst of this pandemic. especially when you have some athletes vaccinated and some not. and i think, you know, it's just not an easy time and i think it's illustrative of how this is through the course of the season. >> especially difficult when you have unvaccinated athletes pretending to be vaccinated like
the super star antonio brown of buccaneers. how do you think the legal handled, scodiscipline that was appropriate? >> oh, yeah, absolutely appropriate. if you're an athlete, you want to win over everything else. and that's creating the mother of all distractions. shame on them, they rely on doctors and health professionals for so many things if they don't get vaccinated, they definitely deserve the penalty they got. >> christine thank you for joining us this morning. and thank you as we sift through a whole lot of news, christi. >> oh, my gosh, i know. "smerconish" is up next. we'll see you again in one hour. >> stay with us. at zales. the diamond store. ♪ i'm a reporter for the new york times. if you just hold it like this. yeah.
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wouldn't work here and won't be tried. i'm michael smerconish in phil. this week, germ maens announced a nationwide lockdown for the unvaccinated saying they will be banned from accessing all but the most essential businesses such as supermarkets and pharmacies. under the titan rules, unvaccinated people can only meet two people from another household. and bars and nightclubs must shut down in areas of high incident rate. that would never succeed in the united states with passions about vaccinations run deep and often divide along partisan lines. and probably is not worth the effort. such as the intensity here in the states when on thursday a government shutdown was averted despite bringing to a halt a bid to stop president