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a federal appeals court ruled against the former president in his bid to block the release of his white house records to the january 6th house committee, so these records, a whole heap of them that could reveal all kinds of things, could be out very soon. the d.c. court of appeals did agree to pause its ruling for two weeks, so trump can seek an intervention from the u.s. supreme court. >> and we have brand-new reporting revealing that trump and benjamin netanyahu are no longer allies. saying that he no longer speaks with the israeli prime minister, adding ef- him. he added, the first person that congratulated biden was bibi netanyahu, the man that i did more for than any other person i dealt with. he has made a terrible mistake. pfizer adds 2.6 million teenagers to the eligibility list. overall, pace of vaccinations is up. the seven-day average of people
getting their first shot is up 39% from a month ago, but it is a race against the virus. covid hospitalizations are now up 40% over the past month. and former "empire" star jussie smollett found guilty on five counts of felony disorderly conduct for making false reports to police. smollett claimed that he was the victim of a hate crime in 2019 and prosecutors say that he staged the attack for publicity and the jury agreed. the city of chicago says it will seek reimbursement from smollett for the cost of the investigation. all right. let's start on the trump cat that might almost be out of a bag. i'm talking about the court of appeals ruling that allows these records to be released. i'm joined by eli honig and laura jarrett. elie, the d.c. court of appeals court said these records can be released for the january 6th committee.
we'll pause it for two weeks so trump can appeal to the supreme court. what's going to happen? >> this ruling is a demolition. a lot of times when you read a court of appeals reading, it's close. this opinion is different. this says, they don't give us anything. donald trump has not given us anything to rule in his favor. they call his arguments a grab bag, meaning, you've given us nothing. this is not close. you could see this coming a mile away. this is the expected result. of course, the question now is does it go to the supreme court. >> to elie's point is they went much fourth than they could, not only to the president's bid to try to keep these documents under wrap, but people like mark meadows who are trying to dodge the committee's subpoenas, coming up with another january 6th attack from happening. and by going through all of that, they're sort of ticking through a lot of the arguments that ore people are going to make. it's just not clear to me that the supreme court even takes up this case.
i know that we're all sort of on the same page about that, i think. but the court may say, look, the d.c. circuit has issued a very reasoned, 68-page opinion here. there is no conflict between the branches of government. there is no conflict between the circuits. we're not taking this up. >> i've always been on the side that i think that the supreme court will ultimately -- >> i know. >> because this is actually a constitutional issue that has not been resolved. it probably needs to, going forward. we'll see, within the next two weeks. i do want to ask about the january 6th committee. it's not disconnected from this, at all. because they're really trying to portray themselves now as getting a lot done, right? a lot done, very quickly. liz cheney has tweeted on the progress for those sbrintereste we're conducting multiple depositions. we've got all of this stuff from mark meadows. >> i think liz cheney makes a very important point there, that we need to keep -- we tend to be very fixated on the shine eye
objects. the bannons, stones, meadows in this case. but remember, there's so much you can get from the less-known, less-controversial figures. marc short, not necessarily a huge name, but it came up this week, he's cooperating. he was basically mike pence's counsel, right-hand man, chief of staff. he was there. he was in the room with some of these bold-faced names that are defying. but if marc short was in the room and he can tell the committee, here's what i saw, that's enough. as a prosecutor, you don't always get to sit down with the primary target, with the primary wron wrongdoer. sometimes you have to build your case by talking to some of the innocent bystanders, the good faith people that are willing come forward. and i think she's made clear, they are making progress on that front. >> but i think at some point soon, the committee has to set the table on what the goal is here. they keep talking about the connection to trump a lot, and they're dancing around it a lot. but if that falls short, they need to make clear that that's not necessarily a failure. the whole point of this is to set a historical record of what happened, as best as they can. and that may not mean that the former president is indicted for anything at all. >> look, if they get these
records to the archives soon, that's going to totally reframe their work schedule for the next few months. very quickly, the new york state attorney general wants to depose trump in a civil suit, e l.l ir. this is going to happen. >> if it will, it's a ways off. donald trump is going to fight this. donald trump can end this if he takes the fifth. will he? he know how donald trump feels about the fifth, but this is what the fifth amendment is for. we know he's being criminally investigated. now the scivil side says, we wat to depose you under oath. i don't know he's going to do it. he'll fight it in court, for sure. >> i woke up to this news this morning. first of all, you're on the same schedule i am, because when when you wake up to something, it's hard, because we get up so damned early. benjamin netanyahu called joe biden to congratulate him on his election victory, but later than a lot of other world leaders did. it was after all of the networks noted that joe biden has won the
election. donald trump just went off on bibi netanyahu in this interview with an axios reporter who was reporting on the peace process over the last four years, during the trump administration. but this is what trump told this reporter. quote, it was early, okay? let's put it this ways. he greeted him, netanyahu greeted biden very early, earlier than most world leaders. i've not spoken to him since. ef- him! goes on. there was no one who did more for netanyahu than me. there was no one who did for israel more than id did. and the first person to congratulate joe biden was netanyahu. >> he violated the cardinal sin in donald trump's playbook. by a two-week later phone call, so he's not even right on the facts, but two weeks after everyone has projected that biden is the winner, he makes the sin of congratulating the president-elect. >> this loyalty thing sometimes works for donald trump. i think this is why we've seen
mark meadows, as we used to say as a prosecutor, jump halfway across the ditch. i'm cooperating, i'm cooperating, whoops, he's not happy, i'm not loyal, let me try to undo what i've done. and that leads witnesses, potentially important witnesses like mark meadows not to go through with cooperation. >> also, this is interesting on many different levels. whatever trump did for the middle east, he should have been doing for the middle east and for the world. >> not to curry favor with one person. this isn't about personal relationships. this is about lives and peace. and just the idea that trump thought that netanyahu owed him something personally here, it's really, really path lological aa certain level. on that note, i want to play something for you. elie honig. this was last night, this was perdue, the number one-ranked college in the country. playing rutgers, and you played there? >> i played in the driveway of the house. >> this is the end of the game
at rutgers. let's watch this. >> with 3.4 to go, get it to harper with 3, with 2, with 1, harper for the win. got it! >> let's go! >> the game winner at the buzzer! >> let's go! >> and rutgers upsets number one purdue. >> let's go! >> the legal significance of what we just witnessed? >> jersey is in the house. let me just say that. this young man who hit that shot, ron harper jr., last year in the ncaa tournament, he issued a statement, and he did not have to do that, but he said, that's going to haunt me the rest of my life. now he hits this shot. ron harper, bless you. now you have this for the rest of your life. let's go, rutgers. jersey is here. >> may i just say, i have no dog in this fight. and totally missed this, but i
can confirm amhurst college never had a buzzer beater like that. >> elie could have played at amhurst. >> thank you both for that. jussie smollett's attorney insisting that the actor is 100% innocent, says that he'll appeal the guilty verdict on charges that the former "empire" star stan staged a hate crime against himself and lied to police about it. the city of chicago is suing smollett for the cost of its police investigation. cnn's sara sidner is live for us in chicago. and that cost could be high. >> reporter: that's right. $130,000 is what the city reiterated that it is still going after jussie smollett for, what they said was the wasted time of police, the cost to the city, that's still happening. and he found that out just after he was found guilty of five of six felony counts of disorderly conduct. now, all of those counts are for
lying to police in this investigation, back in january of 2019, when he said that he was attacked, had racial and homophobic slurs said to him by two men, who he claimed had maga hats and who were potentially white. and it turned out, and the jury believed this, that two brothers, th e os undario brothes said they were vindicated. the attorneys, one of them saying, the jury got it right. they believed that smollett lied, and those his defense attorney was very clear that they are going to appeal, he still believes that jussie smollett is innocent. >> with the resounding verdict
we just received from this verdict, after one day of deliberations, in which they found mr. smollett guilty of virtually all charges of doing exactly what he said he did, of reporting a fake crime to the scarborough police department as a real crime, that verdict was a resounding message by the jury that, in fact, mr. smollett did exactly what we said he did. >> we're obviously very disappointed. we, obviously, respectfully disagree with the jury's verdict. the verdict is inconsistent. you cannot say jussie's lying and jussie's not lying for the same exact incident. so we feel 100% confident that this case will be won on appeal. >> and so, you hear him saying that we may not be done with this case. that we are going to appeal this case. you have to remember, though, that the judge is going to take
into account that if the jury says, look, he lied about these five of six times that he's reported this to police, it means that he also lied on the stand and that will be taken into account by the judge in sentencing. brianna? >> very good point. sara sidner, thank you more that. covid cases in southern africa seeing a 140% increase in the last week alone, but is this new omicron variant actually more dangerous or not? we'll have the doctor often referred to as the fauci of south africa, joining us next. plus, a newly released memo accuses the biden administration of cutting corners and putting migrant children at risk along the border. the concerning new cnn report. and chris christie letting it rip on mark meadows for putting him in a room with trump after he knew that he had tested positive for covid. >> he saved it for a book. he didn't tell us -- i went into the hospital, in the intensive
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the omicron variant has now been identified in at least 25 states here in the u.s. and it's continuing to spread across parts of africa. weekly covid cases in southern africa jumped 140% last week, mainly because of an uptick in south africa. and joining us now to talk about this is epidemiologist -- the epidemiologist from south africa who has helped lead his country's covid response, professor salim abdul kareem. professor, thank you so much. we keep checking in with you. we last spoke with you last week. how is the variant behaving? any new observations since then? >> nice to be with you, brianna. we have had several new studies that have been released that are now shedding light on this new variant. the first is, in terms of
transmissibility, we're now seeing clearer evidence, we have about two weeks of data now, that show that it's doubling time is faster than what we saw with the delta variant or the beta variant. so there's now stronger evidence that it's more highly transmissible. it's not definitive, but certainly a strong indication. and certainly from the clinical standpoint, the national database of admissions is now confirming that we're now seeing new data emerging that confirms what we initially saw, that the cases tend on the whole to be milder, with fewer requiring oxygenation. so it's interesting that it's emerging, it's confirming what we know, and certainly no red flags at this stage. >> look, that's the expectation of a virus over time. it becomes more transmissible. and then it becomes less deadly. to that end, have there been any deaths from omicron so far?
>> yeah, so we don't know if the deaths can be specifically ascribed to omicron, because we can't link the two databases. but what we do know at this stage is that we have very low deaths in terms of reported deaths. in fact, they are in the single digits for several days, even though the cases are now in the thousands. but there's often a lag between when the deaths occur and when we see the cases. so we'll have to just see over the next two weeks, what happens to deaths, and we'll have a better idea then as to how many of them are due to omicron. but certainly, in terms of severe cases, which includes death, we are seeing a much lower proportion. to give you some identity, to quantify it, in the past waves, due to beta and delta, two out of every three patients admitted to our hospitals required oxygenation and/or ventilation.
in the current wave, due to omicron, it's only one out of four. >> yeah, that's very significant. given what we know now and certainly we have more to know for sure, as you point out, but given what we do know, do you think the u.s. and other countries should lift their travel bans? >> i think it should never have been imposed in the first place. you know, we know that these bans are very little, if any, benefit. and i would have hoped that by now, the u.s. would have reconsidered its position, because there's nothing to be gained. if anything, this virus is now spreading endemically in many countries. so if you're going to impose a travel ban against countries where this virus is spreading, you would need to do it with many, many countries right now, over 50, my last count. >> 25 states, so half of the states in the u.s. are seeing omicron right now. you're seeing this 140% surge in southern africa really ticking up because of south africa,
specifically. is that what you're expecting the virus to do in other countries like the u.s., once omicron takes hold. >> yeah, i think for me, the critical issue was whether its transmissibility advantage could exceed delta. because -- and that's not clear that's the case right now. the evidence is appointing in that direction, but it's not definitive. but if it can spread faster than delta, transmissibility is going to be the key factor that will determine whether it will displace delta. and if it's going to displace delta, that means it's going to spread throughout the world, because delta is now the globally dominant variant. and if that happens, and given the rate at which it spreads, we're looking at this occurring within next few weeks to months. >> yeah. and that's what we'll be looking for. professor, as always, thank you so much for letting us know what you're seeing there on the ground.
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in a memo just obtained by cnn, ten federal field supervisors accused the president biden administration of cutting corners and putting the well-being of minors at risk in their scramble to deal with an overflow of unaccompanied migrant children at the u.s./mexico border over the spring and summer. cnn's priscilla alvarez is joining us now with her reporting. what have you found? >> we've recently talked about
whistle-blower complaints that have shed some light on the poor conditions for children, but we're now learning that internally key officials were raising red flags a about the care of minors. they said that the biden administration was limiting even the most basic safety procedures, that emergency facilities set up to temporarily care for children were run like, quote, disaster camps. this is a memo that was sent to leadership of a federal agency charged with the care of migrant children in july. and if you recall, at that point, tens of thousands of migrant children had crossed the u.s./mexico border, overwhelming facilities and catching the administration flat-footed in its early days. and i've spoken to officials who have said they've felt the political pressure from the white house and that agency staff in this memo have stated concern over the minors, that expedite release to parents or legal guardians, which eliminated safeguards to make sure they were going to the best caretakers. they again addressed those emergency intake sites, saying that they contributed to the deterioration of the mental health and well-being of
children, with one official saying that one of those site was not much better than a poerd patrol facility. now, the white house and health and human services department has said that they take the responsibility of children seriously and hhs spokesperson saying specifically that they address concerns without delay about the child's safety and welfare, but concerns still remain among officials, who wonder whether this administration or future administrations will be better prepared in the event that we see another surge of minors. >> you're saying that safety protocols, some were suspended, and this includes safety protocols about who would take possession of the children. is that right? >> agency staff are worried or addressed in this letter concerns about exactly that. are we releasing children too quickly? that was their primary concern, and are we taking the best care of them while they're in our custody? >> certainly corners that cannot cut. thank you for that reporting. all right. security at the u.s. capitol under scrutiny this morning after an incident yesterday when a staff member managed to enter the capitol complex with a handgun in his gym bag.
it took four minutes, four minutes, before the capitol police tracked him down and arrested him, after noticing the gun on an x-ray screen. apparently, the aide forgot the gun was in the bag. joining me now cnn national security analyst, juliette kayyem. there are two different things that i think really need to be looked into. it went through an x-ray machine, but they didn't notice it at first or it took them a bit to identify that there was a gun in the picture? >> so, yes, and that's one flaw of what happened yesterday. so, is it that they knew him and that they therefore weren't looking at the x-ray carefully, and then they went back and someone, a second review, someone saw it? because these x-rays are not self-identified. they don't say, here's a gun. this is human error. this is basic human error. that's almost all security is based on some sort of human judgment and this is what happened in this case. so capitol police will have to go back. and then once they identify it, then they have a four-minute gap. >> that's the second thing here.
four minutes -- when you say, four minutes, that's quick. >> that's an eternity. >> if you're dangerous, yeah. >> think of all the things that could happen with a gun if you have someone who wants to use it for harm. >> that's a very long time. this is, you know, one of those instances where you sort of knock on glass and say, you know, thank goodness. but four minutes would have been a very long time to get into an office, to get upstairs, whatever. so what we don't know now, this is what the review is going to do, what was the gap that time between identification and finding where he was? and then there's an issue about him, right? we're talking about responsible gun ownership, he apparently did not have a certificate for it. who forgets that they have a gun in their gym bag? i mean, this is the kind of thing where i think we have to be more demanding of gun owners about responsible gun ownership. so all of these, you know, all three of them, right, the picture, the four minutes, and now the conduct of the guy who had it are all relevant for examination. >> if you're in charge of security now in the capitol, what do you do? you take this and say, how can we fix that? >> you have the individual
concern, right? human error, find out what happened and whether that person gets reprimanded, and you figure out -- my biggest concern is that four minutes. so what is happening and why did it take so long, if he was dangerous? and that's the number that you want to cut down to, you know, basically zero at this stage. i want to be clear here, all systems anticipate a breach. but then you have systems that compensate for that breach. there are going to be incidents like this, so you want to make sure that you are able to respond relatively quickly at this stage, especially because it's the capitol. and the challenge for capitol security, like any place, like a football stadium, is, you want people to attend. this is the people's building, right? so you can't close it off. your security has throw a certain amount of flow. and that's the challenge for the capitol police. they know how to have a perfectly safe capitol building, which is shut it down to the public. and that's not an answer. >> if you're going to have x-ray machines, you have to look at the pictures as they're coming through before you let people in. juliette kayyem, great to see
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in the saint sere household, cricket the show cows and trigger the rescue horse are top priorities. >> your animals come first. they eat before i eat. >> reporter: and these gentle giants eat a lot. the price of their food has gone up and with twice-daily feedings, they run through nearly two 50-pound bags a week. >> it was about $16 a bag and right now it's at -- it depend on where you go, where we're getting it, it's about $22. >> it's just one of the price pinches for this family in rural michigan. spending power for rural americans has dropped by 5.2% compared to 3.5% for urban americans from pre-pandemic. and rural americans typically spend more on the very items that have seen the biggest price increases. food, energy, and cars. >> what are the biggest challenges you face when it comes to inflation? >> i think it's just not having the options to offset those
costs. it's like, okay, yeah, we could drive another half hour, another hour, but it's like, we're paying $3.50 for gas. >> reporter: but gas prices are falling to a seven-week low, down 20 cents in michigan in the last month to $3.22 a gallon. and for these new small business owners, every cent counts. >> you have a budget that you have to stick to. >> reporter: this year, the couple launched their wood, furniture, and decor company, palomino and co out of their garage. but then the cost of lumber skyrocketed and resources became scarce. so they turned to their own bar. >> all of this used to be stalls. we deconstructed those to get lumber. >> reporter: the price of wood has come back down, but the cost to ship their orders is up. >> with being out a little
farther out into the country, obviously, shipping costs increase because the farther out they have to drive. >> i think we've been hit with so much, it's like, first, inflation, and then gas prices, and then shipping. >> reporter: but as prices have risen, so have wages, up 4.8% since last november. dylan still has his full-time job to help support the business. >> so you feel like it's risen a little bit together, enough to offset? >> it's definitely helped. probably not enough to keep up with inflation. >> no. >> but it's definitely helped, though. you always have that in the back of your mind. >> now, the saint seres say that there is a benefit to living in a rural community during a time of inflation. if there's a familying that vs. financial hardship, the community rallies around them to make sure that they get what they need. and the saint seers are overall
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former all-prowide receiver demarius thomas, a denver broncos great, found dead at his home. he was just 33 years old. carolyn manno has this morning's bleacher report. what do we know, carolyn? >> reporter: good morning, john. there's some reporting around the fact that he suffered from seizures in the past, but it's far too soon to connect to that to a cause of death or speculate. right now it's being described as a medical issue, but what we do know is that he was really viewed as a leader and mentor in the nfl and that he's going to be missed by a lot of people. this is so shocking, because as you mentioned, he was only 33 years old. he played ten seasons in the nfl. he announced his retirement just a couple of months ago. he was found at his home outside of atlanta yesterday, and police say that the preliminary information suggests that this was medical and that investigators right now have no reason to believe otherwise. the four-time pro bowler spent parts of nine seasons with denver. he's really known as a bronco. he retired as a jet back in june, won the super bowl in the 2018 season, and in a statement, the broncos say that they are
devastated and completely heartbroken by this. the team says that demaris' humility, warmth, kindness, and infectious smile will always be remembered by those who knew and loved him. and peyton manning who won the super bowl with thomas back in 2017 saying, he treated my kids like they were his own. he was there for every teammate's charity event. i texted with d.t. on tuesday. he was talking about a td audible we called versus arizona in 2014. absolutely devastated. and in 2015, president barack obama commuted the sentence of his mother and grandmother. they were both arrested and sentenced to lengthy prison sentences on drug charges he was 11 years old. his mom did eventually get to see him play in person, john. he would have turned 34 years old on christmas day. so still looking for more details as to what exactly happened, but the sports community is certainly mourning his passing this morning. >> yeah, peyton manning said he was a better human than a player. and he was a really great player, so that tells you what kind of a guy he was. and the fact that peyton manning was texting with him just this
week, so sad. keep us posted as these details come in, carolyn. thank you. >> will do. democrats are losing the culture wars. that is the subject of ron brownstein's new reporting in "the atlantic." and he's drawing similarities here not 1990s, where critics argue that democrats could see a, quote, sustained exodus from power if they don't change course. cnn's senior political analyst ron brownstein joining us now to discuss this. he's also a senior editor for "the atlantic." you know, you see this problem that democrats have and your point is that that they don't have to reinvent the wheel. they can just kind of take this time machine back to around the time that reagan won and there's a lesson to be learned. what is qit? >> look, first of all, good morning. for years, the only time bill clinton and the democratic leadership counsel, the centrist movement of the late '80s and early '90s, as you know, has been for people apologizing or renouncing things that they did
on crime, on welfare, on trade, on other attempts to try to claim the political center. and now, really, for first time in years, you have a constellation of voices in the party, not as well organized as they were in the '80s and '90s, making the case that maybe clinton had a point. and that democrats need to try to neutralize some of the republican cultural attacks if they are going to make progress with working class voters, now across racial lines, which i think is the key point. in the '80s and '90s, the big concern is what was happening among whites without a college degree. democrats have continued to remode among those voters, but they have shrunk substantially as a share of the electorate. what's really animating this new concern, brianna, is the evidence that democrats are beginning to see erosion among working class hispanic voters, as well. and while there's a debate about why that's happening, it's something the party can't ignore and i think it's giving a little
more altitude and tail wind to these arguments that the party needs to find a way to neutralize these republican cultural offenses if they are going to make -- gain ground with these voters around their economic agenda, ultimately. >> you also point out there is poe tepblt for more erosion with african american voters, right. that sort of obama coalition that was put in place is in danger, ron. >> i think the bigger risk is hispanic and african american voters. there is no questions that there is concern among democrats, particularly about men. and whether the party is kind of struggling. facing the same questions they have among working class whites to a lesser extent but to a real extent about crime, about immigration in some cases, about kind of just general kind of cultural positioning. and you see that of course in the new york city mayoral race, where a candidate who was
emphasizing getting control of crime did very well among minority voters. so this is part of -- you know, as in the '80s and '90s there are people on the other side who argue this concern is overstated and that the advocates of this point of view are basically abandoning democratic principles. that's been the argument for the last 20 years since clinton left office. but i would say we are now in a position where for the first time since the mid-'90s there is an identifiable core of democrats who are pushing back against the general drift left on cultural issues. it's not clear which way this debate will go. >> while we're on the culture wars incident to ask you about some news out of new york city. the city is now going to allow noncitizens in vote in local elections. what do you make of this? . >> well, first, it's important for people to understand, we're talking about legal residents who are not citizens.
we're not talking about people who are undocumented or here illegally, at least as i understand it. there are a bunch of those people in the u.s. there are something like 13 or 14 million legal residents not citizens. having said that, i think this is going to remain an avant guard idea in a few blue cities. san francisco has done it. as you will recall, one of the issues in trump's management of the census was trying to discount people who were not citizens apportioning the political power, going in the other direction, writing the people out as if they were not here at all. that ultimately failed. i don't see this as a broadly adopted change. you could imagine it in blue places because that's where
immigrants tend to concentrate. there are a lot of these in places like new york and other big cities. . >> ron, really appreciate the conversation this morning. thank you. >> thanks for having me. coming up -- >> so flying back and forth. . >> covid particles were going he ever where. >> turned out i didn't know that because i didn't have any covid part particles. >> why chris christie said it is undeniable trump gave him covid. the holiday season is here and it's lit. a comfortable nip without frequent heartburn waking her up. now, that dream... . ...is her reality. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts, for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn?
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>> they are. undeniably there is a different feeling in the air this year. it is certainly a reflection perhaps with a little bit of planning, testing, many of us, if not all of us, can have holidays can have a lot more holidays like they were before. it's the most wonderful time of the year once again. . >> i feel like i'm a little kid again, honestly. >> it's been wonderful and magical. >> reporter: new york city's annual holiday show is under way, transforming the city into a winter wonderland for new yorkers and tourists alike. . >> it really gives you the spirit of christmas like no other place. >> reporter: muted last year's covid-19 ravaged the city, the nation and the world. >> light up the night. >> reporter: this year the fanfare is back. . >> hello, new york city! >> reporter: and so are the crowds. . >> it's really nice to see things come back to life in the
city here. >> reporter: the sidewalks are dressed in their usual holiday style. and after a trying time a pandemic weary city is ready to celebrate the season. . >> i think this year was probably a year that we knew that a holiday was going to have to be more meaningful, more beautiful, more enticing, more playful, warmer than ever. >> reporter: bergdorf goodman is one of the department stores that transforms windows into a festive feast for the senses. >> our role in a store like this is to give people a reason to leave those screens, get dressed, come out, be part of an energy of something bigger. >> reporter: the displays take months to design and create. they are meant to draw shoppers in and dazzle passers-by. . >> it kind of makes you, you know, forget how the past year and a half has been. >> reporter: several of new york's department stores have closed in recent years in part
as in-person retail sales have slowed due to the rise in online shopping. for those stores left, the holiday displays are even more meaningful. >> when there's lots of us, it makes it important to keep people visiting the store. >> reporter: nostalgia sheens over lexington avenue. each window inspired by a designer's childhood memory, a favorite toy dean saur, sweaters knit by mom, a jewelry box with a ballerina. . >> that's our job is to provide that little relief so that everyone can get themselves into that holiday spirit area yearning for. >> reporter: perhaps the most stored windows of all, macy's. . >> these windows are macy's gift to the city. >> reporter: the