tv CNN Newsroom With Alisyn Camerota and Victor Blackwell CNN December 15, 2021 12:00pm-1:00pm PST
it's a brand new hour. happy to be with you. i'm victor blackwell. >> and i'm alisyn camerota. the protocol of two shots plus a booster will protect americans from getting severe cases of covid-19. that's the word today from dr. anthony fauci. >> and for now, he does not see any reason to alternator the vaccines to protect against the fast moving omicron variant. >> our booster vaccine regimens work against omicron. at this point, there is no need for a variant-specific booster. and so the message remains
clear, if you are unvaccinated, get vaccinated and particularly in the arena of omicron, if you are fully vaccinated, get your booster shot. >> and then dr. fauci laid out new data on how our current vaccines are working, and he said that pfizer and moderna boosters offer substantial protection compared to two doses. cnn senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen is with us now. elizabeth, break down what we heard from fauci, please. >> i think the bottom line here is that two doses of moderna and pfizer are good. they do provide some protection against omicron. certainly will protect you from ending up in the hospital, and a booster is even better. so let's take a look at some of the data that dr. fauci went over today. he said the two doses, the neutr neutralizing activity is substantially low. what that translates tork, if y have two doses of pfizer and
moderna, you have a chance of getting omicron. you might not get terribly sick. three doses is 20 times better than two doses and well within the range of neutralizing omicron. again, bottom line here, everybody dpagrees, the first t doses are the most important, and after you've gotten that, six months get your booster, helpful against delta and omicron. because of the covid going on in the united states right now, the rates are continuing to climb, we are seeing hospital shortages, staffing shortages at hospitals, so let's take a look at what's going on in america's hospitals. so hospitalizations are up 43% from just one month ago. that is a huge jump in just one month. 85% of hospital beds are occupied in rhode island, massachusetts, and pennsylvania. nationwide, icu beds are 78% full, and one in five of those patients in the icus has
covid-19, so you see staffing shortages because you see more people in the hospital. you just have too many people to take care of in the same way, and also, unfortunately, a lot of people are choosing to leave health care because it has become so difficult during the pandemic. victor, alisyn. >> elizabeth, we talk a lot about moderna and pfizer, what about j&j, the j&j vaccine, what does the cdc say about that? >> yes, the cdc today says that their advisers will be meeting tomorrow to talk about the side effects of johnson & johnson. if you remember months ago, we learned that there was a very rare but very dangerous blood clotting issue that was happening with a small number, but a substantial number of people who got the johnson & johnson vaccine. and so we're expected to hear updated numbers on that, and also we know the advisers are going to vote on something about j&j. we don't know exactly what, but a source tells me that it could very well be a vote to limit its
use in some way. for example, women under the age of 50 are the ones most likely to get these blood clots. perhaps advisers will vote it should be recommended women under that age not get this vaccine. we'll have to see. this is more information about the very deadly, but very rare side effect from the johnson & johnson vaccine. >> elizabeth cohen, thank you very much. so the number of new infections is up roughly 50% from just a month ago, and the cdc is warning that covid deaths will likely increase over the next month. >> cnn's tom foreman is with us with a look at the state of the pandemic with the holidays just around the corner, tom. >> yeah, just around the corner. all of those gatherings indoors, and the numbers are terrible. we have passed the milestone of 800,000 coronavirus deaths. this is the tuesday number, the deaths on tuesday, this is slightly more than one person every minute dieing from this terrible virus out there, and
hospitalizations of course, elizabeth just mentioned there. it's no wonder the transmission map looks awful as well. high level of transition, there's virtually no place that is good in terms of transmission out there. we only have a tiny measure of what omicron has done because we're trying to figure out where it is, but for the week ending december 4th, it was less than 1% of the cases out there. here we are at 3%. this could very well become the dominant strain in this country, and it transmits easily. we don't know how terrible it is when you get . we're sorting that out. we know it transmits easily. look at the hospitalizations out here. it's not as high as it has been further back, but it's going completely in the wrong direction. that's why there's so much talk about this notion of getting vaccinations and the numbers don't look good there either. look at this, we had these big speck, but we sort of ran into a wall around 60, 61% of the
population gets vaks ccinated a we run into the people who don't want to get vaccinated, who won't get vaccinated. it's not about politics and your social views f you don't want to get sick and don't want to get your family and friends sick, go get vaccinated. that's all there is to it. >> well said, tom foreman, thank you. >> the pandemic has strained so many hospitals and demoralized so many health care workers in minnesota that a group of doctors and health care officials took out a full-page ad in the minneapolis ”star tribune” on sunday. the headline was we're heartbroken, we're overwhelmed, it went on to say quote at any time you or a loved one need our support, heart attacks, car accident, strokes, appendicitis, an ominous question looms, will you be able to get care from your local community hospital without delay. today that is uncertain. one of the doctors behind that
ad is dr. ken holman, he is the president and ceo of sentra care in central minnesota, and he joins us now. dr. holman, thank you so much for being here. when i saw that headline, we're he heartbroken, we're overwhelmed, who do you want to see this ad? >> as you know, the pandemic has hit certain parts of our country quite viciously, and that's true for minnesota. you have seen the numbers, tom just referenced they want. in minnesota we are having a another really prom negligent surge, and the purpose of the ad was to have health care leaders in the state of minnesota, and they were listed on the ad, come together to achieve a couple of objectives, one, to our staff, give evidence to them that we're working as hard as we can, to give the message to the public, please join us in this war against covid. get vaccinated in public health measures. it's aimed at our employees, to thank them, and spread the message around vaccination, which, again, tom just covered.
and the second thing was to give a message to the community. please help us. as we have gone through the pandemic, we have two groups of patients and a simple way of handling, one is covid. 25% of our volume now is covid related, and the other volume we have to take care of is the other normative work of health care, heart surgery, neurosurgery, and all the other things that are really important in people's lives. when you have so much covid, we are unable to provide support for other disease classifications, and the people that need help. not only is it about covid, it's about everybody else that has health care challenges. >> i hear that loud and clearly in your ad. when you say the covid patients are taking up 25% of the resources, do you mean the unvaccinated or are you seeing people who are fully vaccinated that are also in hospital beds? >> vaccination has a couple of very important attributes to, number one, it helps prevent
significant illness and hospitalization and death. but 90% of our icu patients are unvaccinated. are there a few that are vaccinated? yes. but the value of vaccination is to minimize the impact of the disease, herlping to avoid hospitalization, icu stays and death. that is our objective. >> yes, it is, and i was so struck by something that a doctor in a different hospital said to reporters yesterday. he said, this is dr. john hick from hennepin health care, it feels like you're drinking from a fire hose with no way to control the flow, our work force shortages are extreme, and it's been extraordinarily hard from the work force to going from being heroes, to being questioned to being mistrusted, not only under the gun but sometimes being assaulted by patients. have you, doctor, seen that with your doctors? are they being assaulted
verbally or physically by patients? >> yes, and i think you put your finger, alisyn, on something very important. not only is it the overwhelming work of caring for a sick patient population. and covid patients are very sick. they are the sickest of the sick. but also to deal with a cultural movement, which denies the basics around care, and actively confronts us, we have arrested folks who have assaulted some of our vaccination clinics in the public. we have had physical alternate k -- altercations in the hospital, and family members who want a different kind of treatment than what is commonly accepted as standard best care. indeed, not only is it about the demand of this work, but also the political and social environment amongst some subsets of patients and their families. it is heartbreaking. >> it is heartbreaking, and it's sort of disgusting, frankly,
dr. holman to hear that that's what your doctors are subjected to, and you know, i just want to ask you about something that's controversial, but i have heard it mentioned a few times in the past couple of months from primary care doctors as well as celebrities, and that is why not have the unvaccinated go to the back of the line in terms of hospital care. when you say that people with cancer and heart attacks and strokes may not have a hospital bed, why not give them first preference and make the unvaccinated maybe not have a hospital bed. >> well, i certainly understand the emotion behind some of that. i think all of us went into health care have an understanding that we're here to serve everybody. in medical school, we frequently talk about the hippocratic oath. we're committed to take care of our population and communities. they depend on us no matter what the disease process is. someone could also make the similar argument, for example, someone with a self-inflicted disease of some other sort, and
so we are here for our communities, we take care of everybody. we take care of covid patients who are vaccinated and we take care of covid patients who are unvaccinated. it's who we are. it is part of our community. it's a not for period of time organization, we are the community, a resource to take care of all sorts of illnesses, covid to heart disease to newborn babies. >> that's such an important perspective, dr. ken holman, even at great personal cost to you and some of your doctors, we appreciate all that you're doing. thanks for giving us a status report. it's really disheartening, but we're thinking of you. >> and thank you kindly, and a large shout out to all of our health care workers who the term hero is used a lot but i'm not certain that the public understands not only the emotional stress involved but remember these people have families too, and every day, they are willing themselves out to take care of our fellow citizens in a challenging environment, and go home as
well. >> thank you for that reminder and message. we'll talk to you again. >> such an important point that the doctor makes there, is one, that they're exhausted but they take this home with them. you can't separate emotionally from kwwhat happens there at th hospital and go home to your family. >> and they're having to deal with being accosted by patients who don't believe in the treatment they're offering them. let's move to the federal reserve. the fed says it will likely raise interest rates above current rock bottom levels, and that signals as many as three interest rate hikes early next year. >> federal reserve chairman, jerome powell explained why they're speeding up the end of the pandemic era stimulus program. >> we are phasing out our purchases more rapidly because with elevated inflation pressures and a rapidly strengthening labor market, the economy no longer needs increasing amounts of policy support. >> here now to discuss is cnn
global economic analyst, a global business columnist and associate editor at "the financial times," tell us about this announcement today. >> the fed has been walking a tight line for some time. it needs to keep inflation under control but that night been sure how long it's going to be around, right, we keep hearing the word transitory. inflation is going way, supply issues are going to clear up, labor market abate, but we get wave after wave of the virus, and these things are not going away. what you're hearing now is the fed saying we are serious about fighting inflation. this is priority number one now. what i have learned here, is powell says omicron doesn't factor into the thinking of winding down stimulus. delta dramatically changed the environment. how can we make this decision without changing omicron. >> the fed policy language is sort of its own science, you know, and i think by not mentioning the virus, specifically they're saying, that's not our primary worry right now, but it's always all about the virus.
i mean, the fact is, if you see vaccines being able to keep this under control as you are, that's a good thing. if you see another wave coming and really, you know, tightening that labor narmarket and creati j make it hard. sometimes the economy is shutting down. i think they're trying to walk a fine line. >> can you ask you about the twitter spat between elon musk and senator elizabeth warren. i'm fascinated by what the right answer is. elizabeth warren tweeted let's change the rigged tax code so the person of the year, elon musk, will pay taxes and stop free loading off everyone else. he responded, you remind me of when i was a kid and my friend's angry mom would yell at everyone for no reason, and went on to say, and if you opened your eyes for two seconds, you would realize i pay more taxes than
any american in history this year. which is correct? >> he hasn't had a lot of earned income. which sounds crazy. this is a guy on paper worth well over $200 billion. a lot of that is in stock. he's not exercising the stock. this gets to issues which senator warren and many others have been complaining about for some time, people who make their money by getting a paycheck, like most of us, are paying high rates, and people who make it from money are paying low rate. >> when he says i'll pay more than any person in history, that's disingenuous. >> it's possible if he has the stock options, it remains to be seen, and mr. musk never shies away from a twitter fight. >> let's talk about the polling that david chalian brought us, 45% of respondents say that the presidential's policies have worsened their economic condition but people are spending money. stock market is high.
i mean, what's the disconnect here, imagine if you're paying $3.30 per gallon, that's what you see every day. >> if fuel is going up, food is going up, that hurts in the wallet and people tend to blame the president or give the president credit more than what he serves for what's going on in the economy. a lot of government stimulus, aside from the initial covid stimulus has yet to flush through the system. what's happening with inflation now has more to do with things like the supply chain issues, the fact that we've had low interest rates and really easy money for a decade now. this is not just a biden thing. we're probably due to hike those rates. you have stock prices that are way up here. you know, these are the factors that are driving these right now. i think the inflation is going to be volatile. i could be on here with you all next month talking about inflation rates being lower, and then the next month after that, i think volatility is the only constant. >> when the president says worth a peek, you don't buy that. >> i don't buy that.
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attorney general merrick garland must decide if he will indict mark meadows. if so, meadows would become the first white house chief of staff to face criminal charges since watergate. last night the house voted in favor of the referral, holding meadows in contempt of congress for failing to appear for a deposition. >> before the vote the panel read more text messages sent to meadows. there was one from an unnamed lawmaker which revealed discussions to overturn the election on november 4th, the day after the election. here's part of that text message. why can't the states of georgia, north carolina, pennsylvania, and other republican controlled state houses declare this is bs, and just send their own electors to vote and have it go to the supreme court? with us now is olivia troy, a former aid to former vice president pence and now the director of the republican accountability project. olivia, welcome back. it's right there, we don't know if this is the first text of its kind one day after the election but this is a web that's
stretching to include a significant number of members of congress. >> clear and plain evidence of members of congress being completely complicit in an attempt to overturn a fair and free election, and undermine our entire electoral process and democracy, incredibly disturbing. >> you think once we get these names and the chairman of the committee bennie thompson says they'll make a decision in a week or so, that there will even be a consequence in this republican party for members who tried to steal this election? >> i don't believe so because when you actually stand up for truth like liz cheney, and adam kinzinger, and others who have tried to stand for the truth along the way in the after math of january 6th, you get pushed out of the party or ostracized or threatened and bullied and intimidated. that's where the party is now. they support those who do everything to cover up and obscure the truth, even on one of the events that led to one of
the darkest days in our democracy. >> if that's the case, let me ask you a 30,000 foot perspective question, the democrats seem very focused on accountability for what happened on january 6th. and we do need to know the answers to where trump was during those hours, why he wasn't calling in the national guard for help. all of that needs to be answered for sure. republicans seem to be focused on installed cronies at the state and local level into important election oversight positions. from your perspective, which one is more important right now? >> i'm a supporter of both. i think there needs to be accountability. i think that if people were complicit in this entire thing, i think this is an incredibly dangerous precedent, and mark meadows should be held in contempt of not cooperating with congress. this is a whole entire group of people who think that they are
above the rule of law, and they do this repeatedly, and they use sort of the judicial system to drag things out in the process. on the other hand, i think what's happening at the state and local level is incredibly concerning because they are laying the ground work to be able to overturn the will of the people, the will of what the people decide and that is actually exactly how democracy really dies, and look, it's not an overstatement, i think people at times hear that, and they think it's hyperbole, and it's notment not. it is rigging the system at the state and local level, so if they get the results and don't agree with the results, they will have hyperpartisan people in place who work to overturn an election result, and i think that is a very concerning trend for our country. >> to that point of the direction of both the party and your characterization there, the country, former president trump is on a tour with bill o'reilly, and the man he used to work for,
former vice president pence came up, ands in what former president trump said about his future. >> i think mike has been very badly hurt by what took place with respect to january 6th. i think he's been mortally wounded, frankly, because i see the reaction he's getting from people. >> in this party, it's the twice impeached former president who asks people to find votes for him in georgia, determining who's in or out. do you think he's right? >> look, i do think there's an entire segment of the population who after being lied to repeatedly day after day about the 2020 election being stolen and the big lie, they believe donald trump, and they think mike pence is a traitor, they think he's a traitor to their cause. interesting choice of words by donald trump, right. mortally wounded or something like that. i think about that, yeah, mike pence was almost
hurt. he was almost killed at the direction of you. and so i think this is just a kind of perfect picture of describing this group of people who continue to spread this disinformation, that continues to be pervasive, whether it's, you know, fox news and those texts and you see the cover up afterwards, which i think shows complicitness across the board by these people, and then you have mike pence who did do the right thing that day, he did his role, his job and he certified the election, under tremendous pressure by the former leader of our country in that moment. >> olivia troy, always great to talk to you, thank you. president biden is in kentucky right now. he's continuing his tour of several towns that were just devastated by last week's deadly tornados. these are live pictures we're looking at right now. >> he's in dawson springs. he was in mayfield earlier. you see he's conversing with members of law enforcement.
chief white house correspondent kaitlan collins is there with the president. what do we expect to hear from the president today? >> well, he's going to make remarks here, this comes after he's had several briefings today, including with the governor of kentucky, several local officials in addition to the administrator of fema, his dhs secretary, all of these officials talking about overall what the effort is going to look like. you saw just a few moments ago, president biden amended that disaster declaration for the state of kentucky. that frees up federal funding to help clean up issues like what you're seeing behind me, to help rebuild in these communities in times when they so desperately need it, it's not just right in the after math of course where it's clearing debris, finding people temporary housing, all of those matters that are incredibly important to people right now who have lost their entire homes, some of them, but also going forward, and what that looks like, and the disaster declaration that helps states with the resources to pay for it, but i also think part of
what president biden is doing here today, you see him there, touring the damage, you see him up close, it does make it more real to see it in person, and walk around the damage. president biden says he also wants to listen to people. he wants to talk about what they have gone through. a lot of people we have spoken with today, they are overwhelmed by this because in a matter of moments, they lost so many of their life's memories. this home where we're standing in dawson springs, you can see behind me has essentially been leveled. trees were snapped in half. you walk around, we're standing in what used to be a garage here, and it is just completely gone. now it's just a concrete slab, and so what we have been talking to people today, they're walking around looking for memories of their childhood, of their lives growing up in these homes, in this neighborhood because they don't feel like they have a lot of time to find them before they dle clean up debris,because there are cars around trees, nails with boards in them, everything you can imagine before a tornado
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a senate panel is questioning leaders of the country's biggest airlines about the billions in covid relief they received and why it has not translated into better customer service. >> lawmakers want to know why there are still staff shortages, flight disruptions and other operational issues particularly as travelers get ready to hit the skies for the holidays. cnn aviation correspondent pete muntean is here with today's testimony. what did they say? >> well, alisyn, the central question is that airlines accepted $50 billion in federal aid over the beginning of the pandemic. the whole point was to keep
thousands of airline workers all a job but then why were there staffing shortages that left a massive schedule melt downs and cancellations with spirit, american, southwest throughout the fall and summer. testifying now are executives from american, southwest, united and delta. american airlines ceo doug parker just spoke. he acknowledged those,s that it had back in october, thousands of cancellations but all of this money was worth it even still. here's what he told his oversight committee. >> like other airlines and numerous other businesses we have experienced operational challenges in recent months which we have worked to manage as much as possible, with the utmost care for our customers and team, while various pandemic related factors have caused our operation to run tight when extraordinary disruptions occur, these events have been the distinction exception, not the rule. >> reporter: now american says it is now able to hire employees to try and fix this problem
long-term. 16,000 employees, it say it has hired in 2021. 18,000, it says, it will hire in 2022. we will see if this argument works on this committee hearing and if airlines are truly out of the woods as we go into the holiday travel season. the tsa says the numbers will be huge. united airlines says its numbers will be 20% higher than what we saw in the thanksgiving travel period, that's when we set a pandemic era, 2.45 million people through security at america's airports the sunday after thanksgiving. we will have to see how this all works out victor and alisyn. >> we will. come back to us with any developments. thank you. cornell university has shut down its main campus after hundreds of people tested positive for coronavirus with a high percentage of them the omicron variant. cornell's provost joins me next.
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. nyu and princeton are the latest in a growing list of universities moving back online after a rapid covid surge that may be tied to the omicron variant. cornell university announced a shut down of its main campus, more than 900 students tested positive this week, and the school says many of its cases are the omicron variant, and they are almost entirely among students who are fully vaccinated including some who have received the booster. michael kotlikoff is the provost of cornell university. he's with me now. mr. provost, thank you for your time here. listen, early on, cornell was the model of how to open a campus, have students there, you re-imagined how the students would be on campus. what went wrong here? >> well, i don't know that
anything went wrong, victor. i think that what happened was after thanksgiving we saw students come back to campus. there was a spike as we expected, and we identified those students through our surveillance testing. what was different was that that spike kept going up and we saw a degree of infection amongst our students and the contact, high percentage of contacts being infected that surprised us and was different than what we'd seen before. we had prepared by preparing this proxy test for the omicron variant, and when we looked ate of those that were really -- that had the s gene drop out or proxy for this variant. i think what we're dealing with is something that's more infectious and a little different bilology.
>> more infectious. we now know that the booster is the optimal protection, just the two shots of the mrna or single shot of j&j is not enough. there is a vaccine mandate on campus. will you mandate a booster as well? >> well, we've been urging our students already to get vaccinated, to get boosted, and we've had several clinics on campus. we'll make the decision over the next several days as to whether to mandate the booster. i will point out that many of our students are not yet eligible to be boosted. you need to be six months after the last vaccine shot. so many of our students had that shot in august or september and won't be eligible until the spring semester starts. i would want to point out one thing, which is we've had no disease -- no serious disease, not a single student at cornell has been hospitalized, so that's sort of, you know, when you say what went wrong, i think we were
prune in making sure this infection didn't spread, and kept it -- kept our community safe. >> that certainly is good news that these are not severe cases. no one's been hospitalized. of course no deaths there from these cases. let me ask you about what you do in the spring? because we know that there's just the minority of people who have gotten the flu vaccine, and there's been the fear of this twin-demic, the spread of omicron, delta is still going strong, and potentially the flu all coming together at once. so how do you prepare to go back in the spring if what you did in the fall ended up with 900 positive cases in a week? >> right. well, what we'll be doing from now until we open is really planning and understanding more about the biology of the omicron variant. it's very important for us. you may know that cornell was, as you implied, we had our
students come back. we optimized the experience for our students, have had a safe semester starting in the fall of 2020. what that was based on was modeling that was based on the science behind the virus, and we're going to spend the next several weeks really intensively looking at the data around omicron, and understanding whether we can, for example, have safe classrooms with mass students and not transmit the virus. >> is it possible that going back into spring that you will stay online only? >> i think anything is possible until we understand, you know, from the beginning we've allowed the science to drive our decisions, so i think what i want to do is understand what the infectivety of the omicron variant is, and the other side of this is if the -- if the path
gentp pathgen oirks city if the seriousness is lowered, that will influence our thinking about what we do for the spring. >> all right. cornell provost, michael kotlikoff, thank you, sir. >> thanks, victor. senate democrats are expected to push back their time line when it comes to the build back better plan. talks between senator joe manchin and president biden are apparently at a standstill. so we are live on the hill with these developing details next. ts time of the year. especially at t-mobile! let's go to dianne. can you tell us what's happening? yeah, i got the awesome new iphone 13 pro and airpods, and t-mobile is paying for them both! oooh and i get a free year of apple tv+ and this is for new and existing t-mobile and sprint customers. like me! back to you. uh, hello!? we are going to t-mobile! upgrade to the iphone 13 pro and airpods both on us. only at t-mobile.
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so christmas was the self-imposed deadline for senate democrats to come up with a deal on the build back better plan. >> but discussions between senator joe manchin and president biden are at a standstill. cnn's manu raju is live on capitol hill. so what's the latest, manu? >> they've been talking, joe manchin and the president, and they are nowhere near a deal, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter. now manchin, of course, is hugely significant here because 50 democrats are in this caucus in the senate. they all need to vote yes to
proceed to this bill and get this bill passed and manchin is the biggest holdout yet in large part because of his concerns over the cost of this bill. he wants to keep it at $1.75 trillion. he is concerned about some of the temporary provisions that are in this bill, including a one-year extension of an expansion of the child tax credit, which could help millions of families, assuming they can extend it past the end of the year deadline. otherwise that expansion will go away by thend of this year. but manchin is concerned about a one-year extension. he says that that hides the true cost of the bill arguing that instead a realistic picture is that it should be extended over a ten-year time frame but to extend it over a ten-year time frame would add hundreds of billions of dollars, potentially over a trillion dollars more to the price tag which will go higher than what joe manchin wants. what he is telling the white house is he wants to essentially pull this out of this bill, move it on a separate track altogether because of his
concerns about the expensive nature of this sweeping package which will deal with climate change, health care, housing and child care and the like. as a result it looks increasingly likely, almost certain they'll pump this bill until after christmas, until after the new year and deal with it next year. can they get it passed? that is still an open question, guys. >> manu raju, thank you. any moment now president biden is going to speak about what he has seen after he has spent today touring the tornado damage in kentucky. so stay with us for that. how liberty mutual customizes their car insurance. ow! i'm ok! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ only in theaters december 17th.
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okay. now to two to four things grocery edition. some sodamakers are getting rid of the word diet and replacing it with zero sugar. canada dry and schwepps ginger ale and others will cut the word diet. it's fallen out of fashion, especially for millennials and gen-zers. do you drink diet soda? >> i stick to water and hard liquor, but i get this. >> never mix. >> it's like in the '80s. remember when they stopped calling gum sugarless and it became sugar-free. >> it didn't change your life? >> no. >> i think it would trick me. zero sugar would trick me into thinking it's better than diet soda. >> kraft foods wants to pay you 20 bucks not to make holiday
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