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"new day" continues right now. good morning to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. it is thursday, december 23rd. we're getting very much closer to christmas morning. i'm john berman. erica hill joins me this morning. great to see you. >> good morning. >> no one saw it coming, that's president biden defending his administration's response to the rapid onslaught of the omicron variant. it is now in all 50 states and accounts for 90% of the country's new cases. the president in a new interview says the nationwide shortage of covid test kits is not a failure by the white house. >> how did you get it wrong?
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>> how did we get it wrong? nobody saw it coming. nobody in the whole world. who saw it coming? >> did the administration not expect that there could be moments like this one where you would have a highly transmissible variant? >> sure, it's possible. it's possible there could be other variants coming along. that's possible. what do you plan for? you plan for what you think is available, that is the most likely threat that exists at the time, and you respond to it. and i think that that's exactly what we've done. and, for example, omicron is spreading rapidly. but the death rates are much, much lower than they were. this is not march of 2020. >> so there is reason for optimism this morning on the covid front, really promising news. the fda authorized the first antiviral coronavirus treatment in the u.s., pfizer's paxlovid.
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and three new studies from overseas suggest there is a lower risk of hospitalization with those infected with omicron compared to delta. we are watching these cases rise. nine members of congress testing positive in the past week, including house majority whip james clyburn. the 81-year-old said he is fully vaccinated and boosted is asymptomatic. add this to the lawmakers are just like us category. clyburn said it took 56 hours to receive his test results. joining us now is the vice provost of global initiatives at the university of pennsylvania and a former member of biden's covid-19 transition advisory board. doctor, thank you very much for being with us. i want to play more of the interview with president biden last night where he was asked directly if the current issues with testing in the united states was a failure. listen. >> no, i don't think it's a failure. i think it's -- you could argue that we should have known a year
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ago, six months ago, two months ago, a month ago. i hoordered half a billion of t pills. 500 million pills -- i'm sorry, test kits that will be available to be sent to any home in america if anybody wants them. the answer is, yeah, i wish i had thought about ordering half a billion pills two months ago before covid hit here. >> what do you think, doctor? >> well, i think on testing we never quite got it right from day one. the cdc made terrible mistakes about testing. we had a reasonable testing situation set up where you could walk into test sites and rapidly get a pcr. when the vaccine came around we kind of dismantled it. i think it was a series of bad choices starting with president trump and extending. i do think, you know, 500
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million tests are a step in the right direction, but we're going to need 2 billion, 3 billion, 4 billion tests. and that's going to -- that's not where we're at. >> can i ask you, doctor, about the series of what seem like promising developments over the last 24 hours. first, pfizer's antiviral pill, paxlovid. what's the promise there, especially in the shorter term where there's only a few days worth of this pill being available. >> yes, it's a very complicated manufacturing process. the chemistry is really hard and takes a very long time. they have under 200,000 pill cases ready to go. it takes months to prepare. so we're -- it's very promising, it's a very promising drug. but manufacturing is going to be a problem and getting that 500 million or whatever number of
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pill cases is going to be very difficult and it will take more than a few months to get out there. it's not going to have any impact on this surge. the second problem is you have to worry about resistance. and that's a problem when you have one drug against a virus. viruses often mutate to make that drug not effective. that's why on hiv we use three drugs and in this case we're probably going to have to develop additional drugs and combine them. >> so we now have -- >> it's going to -- i would summarize that it's good, but hardly a knockout punch. >> good but. a series of promising studies, south africa, scotland and england. not peer reviewed yet but the data is out there for people to look at, which all suggest that the risk of hospitalization and severe illness from the omicron variant is less. much less. they've seen much less hospitalization in some cases than in previous waves there.
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can you extrapolate that to the united states? what should we be looking at? >> yeah, that's probably true. remember, you've got to balance less hospitalizations with more cases, and, you know, hopefully they don't balance out in the favorable category. i think that's -- it's a positive sign, but it could be outweighed by just the avalanche of cases. the second thing i would say, if you look at the hospitalization data between the vaccinated and unvaccinated, you're talking about a 35 times higher rate of hospitalizations with the unvaccinated than the vaccinated. that's true from delta, probably a big gap like that is probably going to be true for omicron. again, the unvaccinated face much higher risks. again, this is good news but. >> good news but. we have to just lay it out so people can see what's going on.
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in south africa, one more piece that people are looking at is that the surge of new cases there from omicron as quickly as it rose, it seems to be dropping off. again, why would that be happening there? is that something we can hope for here? >> well, you can certainly hope for it. i don't think you plan for it. you have to plan for a bad scenario, not the most hopeful scenario you can get. i think that every one of these situations where people keep saying appears to be peaking. yes, it appears to be peaking. we'll have to see. in britain, where we tend to follow britain by three or four weeks, you know, there's been a persistently high rate of cases. they have the highest rate of cases. they've seen a record number of cases per day, over 100,000. yes, it may be that in -- you get a rise in six weeks and a
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decline. if that's true, we still have many weeks to go, at least nine or ten. so i think it could be good news that it goes up fast and comes down fast, but that's still leaving us with a lot of battling of omicron. >> the solutions are all the same no matter what you think, vaccination, masking and testing. those are the tools available and those are the things that will make a difference. >> let me just say a couple things to people who will go to holiday parties. tests if you can get the tests before going with people. wear a good, quality mask. n95, kn95, made sure they're made in america and niosh approved. the other thing you can add is ventilation. open the windows. i know it's cold, you can also get help pa filter and filter out the air. not everyone can afford those, but ventilation is a very important and an underutilized
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intervention to decrease the spread. >> important advice. thank you so much for being with us. have a happy holiday. >> you, sh too. be safe. democrats are sounding the alarm bells. president biden's job approval rating has not climbed above 43% in a single gallup poll in the last four months. it's a bleak sign for democrats facing midterm elections next year. but are those numbers deserved? a new piece in "the atlantic" says relative to the strength of congress, the biden administration has proved outstandingly successful. joining us is the author of that piece, david fromm. good to see you. you also wrote anybody can win a poker game with a good hand. it takes a good maestro to play with a bad one. so you think biden is doing a great job, but he doesn't seem to be convincing the public of that. the american people.
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why do you make the case that he's so outstandingly successful? >> i served in the bush administration, the w. bush administration, we faced a similar situation. president trump started with a majority in the senate. president obama started with a big majority in the senate. back in 2000, push started with a 50/50 senate and with a wafer-thin majority in the house of representatives. i remember what it was like to worry all the time about those senators. by june of his first year in office, president bush lost his majority in the senate because one of the less committed members of the senate crossed the floor to the other party. biden with 50 votes in the senate, needing a tiebreaker from his vice president has driven through ambitious piece of legislation after ambitious piece of legislation. if you favor those or not, you have to say those are some big wins he's put on the board for
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his team. i know a lot of democrats are enraged at joe manchin for not doing everything that president biden has wanted him to do. look at the show of loyalty that joe manchin has given to president biden. again, that's more than george bush was able to get from james jeffords who walked the floor in 2001. >> so you're glass half full as you look at all of this. why do you think that some of these accomplishments have not seemed to register with the public? >> i think they have. we are seeing a booming economy. 7% growth. but, look, what -- >> if we look specifically at polling is more what i'm referencing. >> polls ask the question, midterm elections ask the question have you gotten any -- people will have complaints. they don't ask the question compared to what. biden did well in 2020 on the question compared to what? right now he's having trouble with the question, got any
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complaints? people do. but it's important to remember, the situation -- the objective political situation he faces, and to use fingers to count instead of point fingers. biden won a tremendous personal mandate beating donald trump by 8 million votes. biden's party did not do as well. when you just start with 50 votes in the senate a wafer thin majority in the house, how much are you able to accomplish? george bush was able to do a tax cut and a bipartisan education bill. he didn't advance his own partisan goals. biden has pushed through this gigantic covid relief bill, almost $2 trillion, pushed through this giant infrastructure bill. whatever you think of those bills, those are colossal wins for his team. >> do you think, though, collectively we as a society look at things differently now? the scored card is different a leans maybe negative than it did
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during the george w. bush administration? >> maybe. we have this objective fact of covid. it's frustrating. it's trapping us in our homes. here i am talking to you through a computer screen. do i enjoy that? i do not. so we have complains. we have real problems. some of the problems reflect successes that we don't understand. why are we having problems with supply chains? the answer is because american consumers have so much money to spend they're outbidding what the world can deliver as it recovers from covid. the supply chain problems are the result of massive, massive wealth in this country meeting difficulties in producing goods to serve that wealth around the world. so we are frustrated by that. compared to other problems that we've had in the past, these are -- this is a pretty fi first-fi first-world set of problems that we're facing. >> we know there's a renewed push to get something done on voting rights. he told abc last night that they
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should do whatever it takes and he excepts a support of the filibuster. if voting rights were made a bigger priority, whether there movement there, do you think that would resonate? how much of an impact would that have? >> i just think whatever president biden accomplishes, he's going to run into the '22 factor. it's a vote on the question have you got complains? people will have them. there is time in the year ahead to make progress not just on voting rights, securing -- shutting off the able of state legislators to substitute their own -- voting rights are no good if the state leadership can say we're setting aside the vote and imposing our preferences. make it clear that votes matter. there's also opportunity to make some progress on climate. i think that's got to be a top priority. there's things the president can do -- as a veteran of the last
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time there was a 50/50 senate, he is getting the job done. >> david frum, nice to see you. thank you. happy holidays. >> thank you. up next, we were just talking about this, the supply -- let me try that again. the supply chain issue in this country. so where are we now with just two shopping days left before christmas? we'll ask the commerce secretary live. glass half full of what? that's my question to you. and the january 6th committee wants to talk to trump ally jim jordan. and a blast from the ancient past. i'm talking pre-ancient past. a baby dinosaur egg perfectly preserved for the ages. oh, my goodness. look at that. ash yoga shanti slash regional office slash... and this is the basement slash panic room. maybe what your family needs is a vacation home slash vacation home.
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industry experts were sounding the alarm just as the holiday season got under way with dire warnings about potentially crippling pandemic related supply chain issues leading to empty store shelves and long waits for package deliveries, empi stty stockingst now it appears a major crisis was averted with congestion easing and backlogs dropping. but what happens now as the omicron variant surges? is the global supply chain prepared to handle that? joining me now to answer is commerce secretary gina raimondo. you were at the white house yesterday for the supply chain meeting. there was an article in the "new york times" about this. by in large what are you seeing in terms of the christmas demand being met? >> good morning. by in large, it's a good news story. the president convened some of us in his cabinet and ceos of the gap, fedex, and other logistics companies.
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it is good news. packages will be arriving in time, by the way, in record numbers. folks are buying for the holidays, and as the president has said, the gifts will be on the shelves. your packages will be arriving on time in the mail, and it's really a fantastic story. if you look, last time i was talking to you, john, on the show, there was a real problem at the ports. the president took swift action, got ahead of it, and, you know, the logjam is down. packages are moving. containers are moving faster. so the congestion is down by 50% since you and i last spoke. it's really smooth sailing and santa will arrive on time. >> i was going to say, there's only one shopping day left. if you're still waiting on a package that has not arrived yet, what would you say to people? >> i'd say if you were told by the post office or fedex that it
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would be here by today, i think it will be. they're operating at 99% on time. and at record numbers. they're shipping more packages than ever before and able to do it on time. as you say, the logjam in the ports and the congestion in the ports is way down. it just goes to show, you know, the president convened everybody three days before christmas, the president was still working the issue. it matters. by the way, we heard this yesterday from the private sector ceos. they were telling us that our action made a difference. so i think that everybody can feel good. now, what i can't account for is folks who waited until today to do their ordering. that, i'm not sure. >> that's what i was looking for. if you are a shopper like me, you can't blame the administration anymore. >> like my husband -- exactly. if my husband is listening to this and probably hasn't placed his orders, you cannot blame the biden administration if they don't arrive on time.
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>> listen, omicron is something that everyone is dealing with at this point. how do you think omicron will effect manufacturing, supply chain issues the coming weeks and months? >> yeah. you know, if we said it once, we'll say it a thousand times again. get vaccinated. we know these vaccine work. if you have been vaccinated, get boosted. it really depends on whether people do what needs to be done and get vaccinated. you saw yesterday the president took action with more testing. that will help. we will get through it. you know, i don't think that omicron will have long-term disruptive significant disruption in supply chains. i think the next, you know, period of time here will be a challenge. but if folks go out, get tested, wear masks, be careful, get vaccinated, we will get through it. just like we have delta, just like we have covid. >> one of the issues might be
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with positive tests rising, people may have to move off the manufacturing line. it might just be that people are missing work at a larger rate. i do wonder, this is not going to be your decision, this would be a cdc decision, the guidance on isolation after a positive test is ten days right now. ten days out of work, that might be something that affects manufacturing supply chain issues. >> it is possible, hedge fund we have been living with this now for a couple of years. i have talked to many manufacturers as recently as a couple days ago asking the question you just asked me. by in large they think they'll be able to manage it. they've been managing it. they learned how to change their operations in order to manage this. it's certainly a factor. there will be some disruption, but we're all a lot smarter now about how to run our businesses and run our lives with covid than we were a year ago. so i am hopeful that it won't be massively disruptive. >> we had a conversation with
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david frum and we looked at the polling numbers last hour here. the president's under water on the economy. which is interesting given that unemployment -- the unemployment rate is so low right now, gdp is high. the annual growth rate will be very high right now. you have experience both in the political world and in the world of finance and the economic world. why the disconnect between what people may be feeling and what the numbers are showing? >> yeah. i would say it's what you just said. people maybe are not feeling great at the moment because there's still so much uncertainty especially as it relates to covid. i think we're all sick of it, quite frankly. people have been dealing with masks, tests and covid for a long time. it doesn't feel great. on the flip side, as you say, the economy, you know, under this president's leadership, he has overseen the greatest resurgence in an economy in the first year in office, greater
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than any other president that we know of. so what i believe is we just have to stay at it and continue to create good jobs, continue to unstick the supply chain, continue to get vfolks vaccinat the. over time the people will start to feel better about that. i can't speak for the president but i think that's how he feels. he spends much less time looking at polling numbers than he does looking at unemployment, wages, supply chains. he spent his day yesterday talking to ceos, grilling them on questions of what more can we do to move packages? you know, folks want to feel it in their lives. i think 6, 12 months from now they will. we'll move past covid, wages will continue to rise. we have to stick with the program. folks will start to feel better.
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increase in the number of new covid cases, and that's causing concern among health care workers about the impact the omicron variant could have on hospitals. that's why doctors at baylor college of medicine have been handing out thousands of masks in houston. dr. cedric darke is a professor of medicine there. you had the stockpile of masks on hand that have been sent to the hospital. what made you decide that you should start handing them out to p passersby? >> thanks for having me on. i wanted to thank the texas college of emergency physicians for donating these masks to our department, to our staff. one of the things we wanted to do was actually distribute them out to members of our community because if we can put a mask and specifically n95 masks in peoples hands, which is the most effective type of protection they can have, we can hopefully prevent them from catching covid and prevent them from coming to the er in the first place. >> what's the reaction when you
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hand them out in. >> people were overjoyed and thankful to receive these. a lot of people have been using either cloth masks, gators, sometimes surgical masks. to upgrade your mask in light of the increased contagiousness of omicron, people were happy to receive them. >> there were questions from the beginning of the start of the pandemic what impact it would have if masks were sent out to every household in the u.s. passing them out like this, do you think that starts to hopefully make the masks less poli political, especially in your state? >> i really would hope so. one of the easiest things you can do as an individual and as a family to protect yourself and your loved ones is to wear a mask. this is in addition to the other mitigation methods out there such as getting your vaccination, getting your boosters, and even simple things like deciding to stay home sometimes. right now as cases spike, you may want to reconsider whether you go out to a restaurant, a
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movie or other public places. you know, if your state is not going to allow masking in public spaces, at least you have the choice and the option to do that for yourself because we knows w reducing the spread of this disease. >> it's a little thing that can have a big impact. we've been talking so much over the last nearly two years now, so much with health experts and doctors and staff and medical facilities like yourself as we watched this journey. so i found it interesting to hear on twitter you said i never had this many colleagues who told me they're covid positive at any time like this during the pandemic. the fact that you're seeing so many more infections including among your colleagues, how are you dealing with that? >> i just left shift because of the fact that there are outbreaks occurring. everyone in our department is actually taking covid tests this week. i just got my swab. so we'll see whether or not i'm
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an asymptomatic carrier of the disease or if i'm clear, which is good to know. i'll be meeting with family for the holiday. the best thing to do is make sure i'm not symptomatic, and if i'm not, also to make sure i'm not asymptomatically carrying the disease. it's startling that we're seeing this increase number in cases. it's not just people that are asymptomatic, it's people that have symptoms as well. fortunately because a lot of my colleagues are vaccinated, those symptoms are fairly mild. we still know that there is a real terrible risk for people that are unvaccinated in terms of their likelihood from proceeding to be just a case of covid to someone being hospitalized or winding up in an icu or dying. i want to reiterate to everyone listening, for you and your family, the best thing you can
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do is get vaccinated and then after that, just to have layers of mitigation and to reduce your risks by wearing masks and avoiding crowded places. >> we're all hearing how important testing it. it will let you know where you stand before you meet with family. tsts tests are hard to come by across the country. is that easing where you are in texas or is it still a challenge for folks to get a test? >> it still is a pretty challenging thing. i spoke to a couple people who have been looking around for some. it's very difficult. the tests i have over my shoulder here i bought several months ago in anticipation of if i ever came down with something to test at home and not necessarily have to risk infecting anybody at work or out in the community. but again -- i'm glad to hear the biden administration is finally deciding to send these tests out to americans, but they also ought to consider sending
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out high-quality n95 masks. the supply chain is in a much better position than it was at the beginning of the pandemic. so there's no reason the administration should not be sending out these high quality masks to every household. >> dr. dark, great to have you with us. thank you for everything you're doing. >> thank you. the january 6th committee targeting top trump defender jim jordan. what happens if he decides he doesn't want to talk? and a fossilized egg found after 70 million years. just look at this. look at the condition it's in. was it could tell us about dinosaurs and today's birds.
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the january 6th select committee has its eyes set on one of former president trump's top pallies in congress. the committee wants to speak with jim jordan about possible communications he had with trump and the administration on january 6th. we know jordan reached out to mark meadows the day before the attack with a theory on how to overturn the election results. joining us now is former federal prosecutor, elliott williams. jordan admitted he wrote to meadows. jim jordan admits to having a phone call with the former president on the day of the insurrection. how important is his testimony? >> you know, john, the critical
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thing here is everyone's testimony is important but you have to remember they already interviewed hundreds of people, subpoenaed and had access to documents and phone records. no one individual's testimony will make or break the case. that's how investigations generally are. we focus on the big fish, but at the end of the day they have a lot of things. jim jordan is a central figure and someone that america needs to hear from. now, whether they can actually get him to show up, that's an open question. >> he has said in the past of course he has nothing to hide, which would rationally lead one to believe that if there's nothing to hide, i would not talk. i wonder if you think there's anything to read from the timing of this. if we're at the point now where the committee is saying to jim jordan, come in and have a chat with us. does that tell you that they're closer to -- i don't want to say wrapping things up. i don't think we're there, but it's interesting given that you know the blow back there's going
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to be. >> everyone knows the timeline here. they have to wrap this up by the middle of next year because it's an election year and they want to move on with it. the interesting thing with asking him to come in, if the committee wants to go down the road of recently subpoenaed him, their hand is strengthened if they politely ask him first. they can go to court and say look, your honor, we tried everything. we sent him a letter, called him and spoke to his attorney. they're just building a case here. it's very unprecedented to go after other members of congress. we'll see how much of an appetite this committee has for being that aggressive. >> the subpoena would sort of break new ground there on behalf of the chairman. jim jordan is set up to be house of the judiciary committee if republicans take over. if he says no, what's to keep
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every human being from being called before the judiciary committee from saying no, thanks. you didn't do it, why should i? >> that's looking forward at the future. he'll in all likelihood be the chair of the judiciary committee. the past jobs he what was top republican on the judiciary committee and top republican on the house oversight committee. basically what this guy's career has been doing is issuing subpoenas to people. it would be quite an odd shift from that. par for the course, but certainly odd for him to now say the same committee or the same type of committee i've been working for my entire career and issued subpoenas on behalf of, i won't obey this one because i think this one is stupid. >> not only are you an accomplished attorney, but it turns out you're a really good cook or baker. i mean, really.
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you're doing a knead to know -- and not only do you cook what looks like delicious things but while you're baking you explain serious issues that are affecting the country right now. i just want to play a part of your series knead to know. >> thinking about critical race theory, stay with me for a second and how it became such a controversial issue. critical race theory is simply a way that law professors came up with a way at looking at how america's history of discrimination affects the country. for instance, you can't really understand drug policy or prison reform without knowing how slavery and racism shaped policing in america. kind of like how you won't understand how this cake is made until you see how i put it together. look -- >> "a" what kind of cake is that. "b," what gave you the idea to do this? >> right. look, what kind of cake is it? it's a rainbow six-layer cake.
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dyed for my daughter's birthday into the colors of the rainbow. she's a little girl, she likes rainbows. what gave me the idea, it's mesmerizing images. it's interesting to watch somebody put something together and it reaches people on issues that are very important. i think i'm gunning for the title of cheap baking correspondent for cnn "new day." >> i don't know that you have a lot of competition. i have zero votes here, if i did, i would totally vote for that. the cake looks amazing. you know, feel free to send it up this way. i love the videos, because to your point, when you're breaking things down in this way, you make it so relatable. here are the ingredients that gets us to the end result. what has the reaction been? >> you know, people are finding it interesting because a lot of times people are saying, look, i can't listen to what you're saying because i'm watching the images because they're engaging
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and fun to watch. maybe that's some of the point. you can bring in audiences by giving them things they find interesting. critical race theory is a convertal i al controversial i take a position on it. today i'm making brownies and talking about drug reform and the need to reform our system in a way that people across the aisle, both republicans and democrats are starting to wake up to. you know, it's just a way of thinking about things while doing something sort of fun. >> it's kind of awesome and delicious at the same time. elliott williams, thank you very much. have a wonderful holiday. >> take care. merry christmas. i will send you cake. both of you. >> win. it's a win. >> we're in. all right. other news this morning, a major industrial accident at an exxonmobil refinery outside of houston. several people reported injuries. and what ancient secrets can
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it contains one of the most complete dinosaur embryos ever unearthed so what can we learn from it? let's ask steven bersotti, part of the small team of international researchers that's been studying this little baby dinosaur fossil. this is -- we're kind of obsessed with it, i have to be honest. this is so cool. it's also incredibly informative for you. when you first learned that you would be able to study this, what was your reaction? >> well, i'm obsessed about it too because this is just the most exquisite fossil. and i remember it was right before the pandemic started. i was sent some images of this by my colleagues in china. when i opened those images, i was just blown away because this is a baby dinosaur inside of its egg just getting ready to hatch and it was captured in stone as this fossil. we just don't have any other fossils quite like this. so to me this is really like -- almost like an ultra sousound i
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we might have of a human baby. this is showing a little baby dinosaur just getting ready to emerge into the world. >> i find the images mesmerizing because it's in perfect condition. you can see the tiny, fragile bone structure right there. what have you learned from seeing this in such detail? >> the detail is incredible. and when you just think about the odds to have a fossil of a baby dinosaur inside of its egg, this egg is about 6, 7 inches long, it's a delicate little thing. to have that preserved for 70 million years is astounding. and not only is it this one in a billion fossil, it's quite an important fossil because it tells us a lot about how dinosaurs reproduce, how they dw developed, how they grew. when you look at these images, this gorgeous artwork my colleagues in china and canada
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put together, this is a baby dinosaur inside its egg. it looks like a bird. if you blinked you might think it's a chicken or sparrow. that's because it has the exact same posture in the egg. its head is curled up underneath its arms. that's the same posture birds have in their eggs and it's all about getting ready to develop so the head is in the right position to break through the egg so it can be a successful hatch. >> did this confirm your earlier research or some of what we knew about the progression from dinosaur to birds? >> it did and that's what's really neat. a couple of years ago i wrote a book "the rise and fall of dinosaurs" behind me. but there's a whole chapter about the dinosaur/bird connection. we've known this going back to darwin. we have started to find fossils of dinosaurs covered in feathers showing that things like
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feathers and wings and wishbones and beaks and all of these things we think of as characteristic features of birds actually evolved tens, hundreds of millions of years ago in t-rex type of dinosaurs. now we can add this one to the list. we now know that some dinosaurs, maybe even many dinosaurs, even developed in their eggs just like birds today. and evening that makes them so relatable. i think when you look at a fossil like this, you're not seeing a movie monster. you're not seeing some colossal prime evil beast, you're seeing an animal that was growing, that was developing and that gives us a sense for dinosaurs as real living, breathing, growing animals that ruled our world so long ago. >> your enthusiasm is infectious here. look, we've all seen "jurassic park." how is it that this egg is so perfectly preserved? it wasn't amber, which is what it was in the movie. do you know? >> it's a great question.
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it seems to be a one in a billion type preservation. what seems to have happened, this egg was probably in a nest. its parents probably would have been protecting those eggs. we know from other fossils that these types of dinosaurs were very caring parents. and it looks like there was a mudslide that just wiped this egg away and it buried this egg within a couple of days before it would have hatched and it very sadly for this sdinosaur, encased the egg in stone. but for us it was preserved as a fossil and 70 million years later, here we are, we get to study it. >> i just wish i had you as a science teacher. honest to god, thank you so much for being with us and explaining this and sharing your enthusiasm with us. >> thank you. merry christmas, happy holidays, everybody. >> you too. here's what else to watch today. >> just three words tell you everything you need to know.
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you guys set? you ready? here we go. 3, 2 -- >> that is spider-man's tom holland making good on a promise he made to a real-life super hero, bridger walker, getting a lift in full costume. last year when he was 6 he was gravely injured by a dog when trying to save his little sister. holland promises to bring him to the spider-man set, and, boy, did he deliver. >> how cool is that? >> congratulations to all of them. all right, cnn's coverage continues right now. a very good christmas eve eve. good morning to you. i'm jim sciutto. despite its fast spread across the u.s., here is the good news this holiday season. new studies, several of them, show that the omicron coronavirus variant ma


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