♪ i think to myself ♪ ♪ what a wonderful world ♪ welcome to this ac 360 special barack obama on fatherhood, leadership, and legacy. after leaving the white house president obama mostly stayed out of politics though he did campaign for president biden. the former president and former first lady signed production deals with netflix. they both started podcasts and mr. obama has continued his work with a program he launched while

in the white house called my brother's keeper, now part of the obama foundation. its mission is to provide support for what it calls pathways of opportunity to young men of color. it is a deeply personal mission for president obama who grew up hardly knowing his own father and who by his own account didn't find his way until his late teens. he writes about that as well as how he balanced governing with being a husband and a dad in his recently published book "a promised land." we dropped in on the former president in chicago in a high school where he was visiting a group of young men who had been part of my brother's keeper to talk about their lives and the challenges they face. >> are you going back to community organizing? >> well, probably i'm a little too gray haired and old to be going door to door like i used to plus the secret service still follows me around so i am pretty disruptive. but i am going back to what inspired me to get into public

life. >> one of the things that inspires former president obama these days are meetings like this one. >> hey, people. >> hey, hey. >> it is called a bam circle. bam stands for becoming a man, a program that started in chicago in 2001 to mentor and support boys and young men. >> how's everybody doing? >> the idea is to create a place for them to safely and honestly share their struggles and successes, issues at home, in school, or on the streets. president obama first joined a bam circle in 2013 when he meant high school students james, laz reho arus, and christian. today they sat in a high school on the south side of chicago and mr. obama is catching up with them again. >> it was so crazy that first period i went to class i was like i'm going to meet the president on my lunch. that was the most inconceivable

thing you could possibly think of. then like my heart was like racing. we was sitting down and he just walked in. it was like i'm forever grateful and it changed the draj of my life dramatically. it changed the trajectory of my life dramatically. >> that meeting had a big impact on president obama as well. one of the things that led him to launch an initiative called my brother's keeper which he announced at the white house in 2014. christian, lazarus, and james were there. >> james, that was your first time out of chicago, right? >> yeah. my first plane ride and that was really my first time being out of my neighborhood. >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> christian champagne was 18 years old at the time. >> he sat down with us and shared his story. to my surprise he was just like me growing up without a father. and sometimes not too concerned with school.

[ laughter ] >> like okay. that's pretty nice. this is a black president, grew up without a father. some of the guys grew up without a father. it's relatable. it's not just, oh, he had it made from jump and he's the president. i can relate to him. >> mr. obama has been candid about the struggles of his youth. he hopes sharing his story will inspire other kids to believe they, too, can accomplish great things. >> i made bad choices. i got high without always thinking about the harm that it could do. >> you say you were a lackadasical student, passionate basketball player of limited talent, and incesant, dedicated partier. no student government for me, no eagle scouts. >> no, look. i was -- i have to be careful not to over state. i was not, you know, going

around beating kids up >> i get it. >> and setting things on fire. but i understood what it meant to not have a father in the house. i understood what it meant to be in an environment in which you were an outsider in a way, one difference between me and these young men was there weren't a lot of black people generally at the time. >> right. >> you also were growing up before then in indonesia as an outsider. >> and also an outsider in indonesia. and so there was mixed in with the teenage hormones and just, you know, the usual stuff that teens go through, that sense of, what's my place? and how do i raise myself to be a man? what does that entail? what responsibilities are there? what obligations do i have?

and, you know, what i try to record in the book is the sense in which in part the values that my mother and grandparents instilled in me. even if i wasn't always following them when i was a teenager, led me to the realization around 20, a little later than some of these guys, that to be a full grown man meant not acting out, not being cynical. but taking on some responsibilities. not just for yourself but also for the world around you. >> helping boys and young men become full grown men is what bam is all about. the obama foundation supports bam programs in several cities through the my brother's keeper alliance. do you think you would have benefited from having this as a teenager? >> i'm sure i could have. when we came here, three of the

guys here, you know, were still in school at the time and we had a chance to have a conversation. part of what i shared with them was, and i think this surprised some of the guys was, my life wasn't that different than yours. i wasn't that different from you. the main difference was i was growing up in a gentler environment. >> in hawaii. >> right. in hawaii. so, you know, the violence and drugs and some of the issues that the guys were dealing with day to day, were different. but the mistakes i made, the struggles i was going through, were similar. i think that it would have been useful for me at that time to have just a circle in which you can talk. and i think that, you. >> one of the things we all learned from the pandemic was that human connection matters. that we are not all by

ourselves. we don't accomplish most of the things we accomplish by ourselves. you know, it requires a community. and i think particularly for boys and young men of color, many of whom grow up without fathers but many of whom also live in relative isolation, where the communities, because of safety issues or economic issues, folks don't have as many resources around them, it becomes that much more critical to be able to have someplace where you can come and just say, listen. i'm struggling with this, or, you know, i'm confused about ta. you know, these are the kinds of pressures i'm dealing with and have somebody who either is their peer or somebody older who can say, yeah, man. that's something i went through also. i'm struggling with this, too. this is something i'm confused

about. then being able to talk it through. >> president obama says he found his purpose and ambition in life through community service and eventually a career in politics. becoming a father to daughters sasha and malia gave him the chance to be the kind of father he never had. james and lazarus are fathers now as well. >> we were talking before. the three of you guys were in the program, in the school. now you guys have moved on. two of you are now fathers. >> yes, sir. >> and both of you have daughters. >> yes. proud, proud. >> so anderson here, he is still in diaper changing mode. other than changing diapers, how has that changed your perspective and how do you think about it? because, look, meeting the president, you know, that's cool. but it's not life changing in the same way that being a parent

is. >> before having a daughter, like, i was able to make stupid decisions but now that i have a daughter, i have to think about her. i have to think about her mother, her sister. because now i'm the man of the house. and everything that i do is pretty much revolved around her. so i want to be that father that's always there. i want to be the one that you come home from school to that brightens up your day. anything that you need you can always come to me. i didn't have that growing up. i didn't have a father. like it was one point in time i didn't see my father for like ten years. >> right >> i wanted to be there for her. for everything. >> fantastic. how about you? >> being a father is amazing to me. my baby girl got a great big smile, full of energy, full of life, full of joy. >> bam counsellors often act not only as mentors but also father

figures to the young men in their group. they check in on their grades, their health, their safety. christian champagne says president obama has checked in with him over the years since they met more than his own father has. >> what's going on, man? you all right? things going all right? okay. >> i know experience, excellence is possible. and i need to strive for that. although sports are important to me i focus on my gpa and i will get it back to a 3.8. [ applause ] >> what's your life been like since that meeting? you went to morehouse. >> yeah. i went to morehouse. well, for like a semester. and then i realized i couldn't pay for it so i had to come back home, but before, i wasn't thinking about going to college to be honest because i was always worried about could i pay for it? would i be accepted? you know? i think after the first visit

you made here, i worked a little harder on my grades. you know, i stopped playing around. like maybe, maybe i could do something else. maybe i could go to college. >> when you sit in a circle like that, you know, the obstacles these kids are facing and able to overcome is really extraordinary. >> yeah, you know, the first time i sat down with these guys, the most important thing for me to communicate at that time, and i was the president of the united states, was you guys in many ways are ahead of me, of where i was at your age. i just had certain advantages you guys don't. i could make a mistake and land on my feet. >> but even, i mean, christian, his single mom, i think five or six brothers and sisters, family of six. he got into morehouse.

had to drop out because of money. went to another school. had to drop out because he got ill. now he is working hoping to go back to school. i mean, it is not a question of not working hard enough or, you know, being motivated enough. >> right. and that is where sort of for me my personal journey intersected with i think this broader question of, how are we setting up as society so young men like that can succeed or not succeed? and that's what led me to the south side of chicago. that's what led me to be a community organizer was that sense that, look. when i walk down the street of the south side of chicago i see young people and they look and remind me of me. or michelle. and a combination of circumstance allowed us to succeed. but these kids are just as talented. they're just as smart.

they could achieve just as much if we've got an education system, a social safety net, job opportunities that expose them and give them a chance. you. >> i think that the single most important thing i learned as an organizer when i was here in chicago was that the line between success or failure in this society, so often, is dictated not by anybody's inherent merits. it has to do with the circumstances in which they're in. that doesn't mean they don't have individual responsibility. i think all these young men you heard them, they recognized, no, i have to work hard. i have to do my part. it also means we as a society continue to fail them. >> also how stacked the deck is against so many people in our society from even before they are born. >> yes.

>> i heard, i was reading in a speech you gave a while back a figure i had never heard before that by the age of three if you grow up in a low income family you've heard 30 million fewer words than a 3-year-old child in a well off family. >> which means by the time you show up in first grade you are already significantly behind. now, the good news is it turns out as you're learning as a parent, kids are amazingly resilient. and they can catch up. but it also means that we have to make investments to ensure they catch up: i leave that room thinking how many other kids are there not even in that room? >> one of the things we really liked about this program, becoming a man, was they didn't focus on the superstars. right? that they deliberately target not the kids who are either in the most trouble or most

successful in defying the odds. but the kids who are right there. sort of in the middle. that can tip in either direction, that if they get an encouraging adult, if they are able to, as lazarus was expressing there, if they can find words to tell their story and express themselves and talk out what they're feeling they can succeed. that is part of what i think made this conversation wonderful is these kids aren't like sort of one in a million. this is -- what you just heard was young, black men all across this country. that's who they are. it's not the stereotypes. >> they're not proteges but they are brimming with potential. >> yes. so if we have a society that is afraid of them, we need to listen and hear them.

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>> thank you guys. >> it's been more than four years since the obamas left the white house a moment the former president described as bittersweet in his book partly because they were leaving and partly because of what he thought might happen to the country. >> you write about sarah palin and you talk about dark spirits that had long been lurking on the edges of the republican party coming center stage. did you ever think it would get this dark? >> no. i thought there were enough guard rails institutionally that even after trump was elected that you would have the so-called republican establishment who would say, okay. you know, it's a problem if the white house doesn't seem to be

concerned about russian meddling or it's a problem if we have a president who is saying neo-nazis marching in charlotteville, there are good people on both sides. that is a little bit beyond the pale. and the degree to which we did not see that republican establishment say, hold on. time-out. that's not acceptable, that's not who we are, but, rather, be cowed into accepting it and then finally culminating in january 6th where what originally was, oh, don't worry, this isn't going anywhere. we're just letting trump and others vent, and then suddenly you now have large portions of an elected congress going along with the falsehood that there were problems with the election.

>> and the leadership of the gop briefly for a, you know, one night when they still had the sort of scent of fear in them going against the president. >> and then, poof. suddenly everybody was back in line. now, the reason for that is because the base believed it. the base believed it because this had been told to them not just by the president but by the media that they watch and nobody stood up and said, stop. this is enough. this is not true. i won't say nobody. let me correct it. there were some very brave people who did their jobs like the secretary of state in georgia who was then viciously attacked for it. and all those congressmen started looking around and they said you know what? i'll lose my job. i'll get voted out of office. another way of saying this is i didn't expect that there would

be so few people who would say, well, i don't mind losing my office. because this is too important. america is too important. our democracy is too important. we didn't see that. now, you know, i'm still the hope and change guy. so my hope is that the tides will turn. but that does require each of us to understand that this experiment in democracy is not self-executing. it doesn't happen just automatically. it happens because each successive generation says these values, these truths we hold self-evident. we're going to invest in it and sack ric for it and stand up for

it even when it is not politically convenient. >> you write, we need to explain to each other who we are and where we are going. as somebody who has dedicated myself to story telling that really resonates with me. are we as a country still willing to listen to each other's stories? >> i think this is the biggest challenge we have is that we don't have the kinds of shared stories that we used to. there's always been a division along the lines of race, right? you know, we have 400 years of whites and blacks not being able to have shared experiences because of slavery and segregation and so forth. but even within let's say the white community, right, the stories of kids who are growing up in manhattan and the stories of kids who are growing up in abilene, texas, and the stories of kids growing up in montana,

those stories no longer meet. partly because of the segment, you know, the siloing of the media. the internet, entertainment. we occupy different worlds. and it becomes that much more difficult for us to hear each other, see each other. the thing i learned first as an organizer and then as an elected official as a politician was when you start hearing people's stories you always find a thread of your own story in somebody else. and the minute that recognition happens, that becomes the basis for a community. >> it does seem like something has changed so that it's become so extreme that we're not even allowing ourselves to get into a position where we can see that commonality. i've heard in the past you talk about when you were starting out in politics you'd go down to southern illinois to very conservative districts. >> they'd give me a hearing. >> right

>> i think that's changed. part of it is the nationalization of media, nationalization of politics. you know, the fact is that, you know, you used to have a bunch of local newspapers, local tv stations, people weren't having these highly ideological debates but were kind of more focused on what's happening day to day. poort of it is also the structure of our economy and our communities. it used to be the average high school in america, average public high school, you would have the banker's kid and the janitor's kid in the same school. they'd interact and their parents would be both going to the same football game and would have to know each other. if it turned out there was a talented kid of a janitor who also happened to be on the football team, the banker president might say, hey. why don't you come work at the

bank here? he knew that person. now we have more economic stratification and segregation. you combine that with racial stratification and the siloing of the media so you don't have just walter cronkite delivering the news but you have a thousand different venues, all that has contributed to that sense that we don't have anything in common. and so so much of our work is going to have to involve not just policy but also how do we create institutions and occasions in which we can come together and have a conversation? >> in "promised land" you write our democracy seems to be teetering on the brink of a crisis. since you wrote that there was the attack on the capitol. you got the big lie pushed continually by not only the former president but republicans in congress. >> right. >> are we still just teetering on the brink or are we in crisis?

>> well, i think we have to worry when one of our major political parties is willing to embrace a way of thinking about our democracy that would be unrecognizable and unacceptable even five years ago or a decade ago. when you look at some of the laws that are being passed at the state legislative level, where legislators are basically saying, we're going to take away the certification of election processes from civil servants, you know, secretaries of state, people who are just counting ballots, and put it in the hands of partisan legislatures who may or may not decide a state's

electoral votes should go to one person or another. when that is all done against the back drop of large numbers of republicans having been convinced wrongly that there was something fishy about the last election, we've got a problem. you know, this is part of the reason why i think the conversation around voting rights at a national level is important. this is why i think conversations about some of the institutional and structural barriers to our democracy working better, like the elimination of the filibuster or the end to partisan gerrymandering is important. but this is why it is also important for us to figure out how do we start once again being able to tell a common story about where this country goes? and that is not just the job of

politicians though i think elected officials have an important role. that is where the media is going to have to play an important role, that is where companies have to play an important role. you know, all of us as citizens have to recognize that the path toward an un-democratic america is not going to happen in just one bang. it happens in a series of steps. when you look at what's happened in places like hungary and poland, obviously it did not have the same traditions, democratic traditions as we did. they weren't as deeply rooted. and, yet, as recently as ten years ago, were functioning democracies and now essentially have become authoritarian. >> democracies don't always die in a military coup. democracy dies at the ballot box. >> that's right. and vladimir putin gets elected with a majority of russian voters but none of us would claim that that is the kind of

democracy we want. >> you wrote about the importance of getting exposed to other people's truths. that is how attitudes change. what happens when the only truth people are willing to expose themselves to is their own? >> look, this is part of the challenge. it's part of the challenge with social media. there's been a lot of conversation about how we are able now to just filter out anything that contradicts our own biasses, prejudices, and predispositions. it's not symetrical. i have to say this. you know, the truth is that on what at least the right would consider liberal media like cnn, you know, you guys will still take democrats to task for things. i think democrats lord knows when i was president i was getting a lot of incoming from

my own base. and so, you know, it's not symetrical. but what is true is for all of us there is a great danger that we just shut out anything that contradicts our own sense of righteousness in these big debates. >> not only that but then we other-ize the other -- >> we demonize the other side. so that is going to require steady effort. it probably is not going to be done at the federal level. it's probably going to involve communities finding ways to rebuild that sense of neighborliness, working together, conversations, you know, one of the things that, having been out of office for a while, i've gone back to thinking about is how can we do more bottom up work to rebuild

communities. to rebuild local media. to rebuild local conversations. because that's where i think there's still the most hope. >> disperse the area immediately. >> it was during president obama's eight years in the white house the american public began learning and saying the names trayvon martin, eric garner, michael brown. young, black men killed by police or in trayvon martin's case by a neighborhood watch volunteer when martin was 17 years old. >> when trayvon martin was first shot, i said that this could have been my son. another way of saying that is trayvon martin could have been me 35 years ago.

>> president obama was both praised and criticized for that statement, one of several reminders for the first black american president that how and when he discussed race was something he and his advisers had to think carefully about. if his book he writes that early on if his presidential campaign his advisers warned him about being boxed in as, quote, the black candidate. looking back as president did you tell the story of race in america enough do you think? >> yeah, well, look. i tried. i think i told a lot of stories. you take a look at the speeches i gave in selma and the speech i gave during the campaign about reverend wright and that whole episode. each and every time i tried to describe why it is that we are still not fully reconciled with our history.

but the fact is that it is a hard thing to hear. it's hard for the majority in this country, white americans, to recognize that, look. you can be proud of this country and its traditions and its history and our forefathers and, yet, it is also true that this terrible stuff happened. and that, you know, the vestiges of that linger and continue. the truth is when i tried to tell that story often times my political opponents would deliberately not only block out that story but try to exploit it for their own political gain. i tell the story in the book about the situation where skip

get a, a harvard professor trying to get into his own house is arrested and i am asked about it. >> i don't know not having been there and not having seen all the facts what role race played in that. i think it is fair to say number one any of us would be pretty angry. number two, that the cambridge police acted stupidly if arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home. not only did that cause a fire storm, as you will recall, you were already in the press at that time. >> yes. >> but subsequent polling showed that my support among white voters dropped more precipitously after that, what should have been a minor, trivial incident, than anything else during my presidency. >> that is extraordinary. >> it gives a sense to the

degree to which these things are still, you know, they're deep in us. and, you know, sometimes unconscious. i also think there are certain right wing media venues, for example, that monetize and capitalize on stoking the fear and resentment of a white population that is witnessing a changing america and seeing demographic changes and do everything they can to give people a sense that their way of life is threaten and that people are trying to take advantage of them. we're seeing it right now, right, where you would think with all the public policy debates taking place right now that the republican party would be engaged in a significant debate about how are we going to deal with the economy? what are we going to do about

climate change? what are we going to do about, lo and behold, the single most important issue to them apparently right now is critical race theory. who knew that was the threat to our republic? but those debates are powerful because they get at what story do we tell about ourselves? >> are you prepared to take the oath, senator? >> i am. >> the president who campaigned on hope and change sees the continued potential for that change in the next generation. which includes his own daughters. and while his daughters still keep a low public profile, mr. obama says they took part in the black lives matter protests after george floyd was killed in minneapolis. >> i'm wondering if just as a parent you were worried about them doing so and as somebody who has had daughters who were taking part if that, what do you make of those who are now saying

the black lives matter protesters are equating them with the people who attacked the capitol? >> well, my daughters are so much wiser, more sophisticated, and gifted than i was at their age that, you know, i always worry about their physical safety. that is just the nature of fatherhood. you will discover it when wyatt stops just being immobilized in your house and can start wandering around. >> i'm not going to allow that. >> and driving cars and flying on planes. you're terrified all the time. in terms of them having a good sense of what's right and wrong and their part and role to play in making the country better, i don't worry about that. they have both a clear sense of, that i see in this generation, that what you and i might have

tolerated as, yeah. that's sort of how things are, their attitude is, why? let's change it. that's among not just my daughters, but it's among their white friends, right? there is this sense of, well, of course it's not acceptable for a criminal justice system to be tainted by racism. of course you can't discriminate against somebody because of their sexual orientation, right? there are things they take for granted that i want them to take for granted. but what i find interesting is they're also starting to be very strategic about how to engage the system and change it. they're not just interested in making noise. they're interested in what works. and at least in conversations with my daughter, i think that a lot of the dangers of cancel culture and, you know, we're just going to be condemning people all the time, at least

among my daughters they'll acknowledge that sometimes among their peer group or college campuses you'll see folks going overboard. they have a pretty good sense of, look. we don't expect everybody to be perfect. we don't expect everybody to be politically correct all the time. but we are going to call out institutions or individuals if they are being cruel, if they are, you know, discriminating against people. we do want to raise awareness. a great source of my optimism, you know, when people talk about what kind of -- how do i think about my legacy -- part of it is the kids who were raised during the eight years i was president, there are a bunch of basic assumptions about what the country can and should be that i think are still sticking. they still believe it. and they're willing to work for

it. >> no justice no peace! >> while the black lives matter movement has brought national attention to the issue of police reform, these young men in the bam program say they feel a dual threat every time they go outside. there is fear and mistrust of police and fear of gun violence here in the streets. >> here in chicago this year let's face it has been an increase in violence. you know, when we met last time, obviously on the south side, west sides of chicago, some of the surrounding suburbs, there had been gun violence for a while. gang activity for a while. we've seen an uptick in it and then we've also had to process the fact that the relationship between the police and community is not what we want it to be, and so often young black men, you know, experience police not as a positive force to protect

but as somebody who is going to see you as a suspect or somebody to be feared. how is that played out for you guys both while you're still in school but also now that you're working? >> police in chicago for a while i was driving lyft. while i was still in college i'd come home weekends and drive lyft. i was getting pulled over like crazy. almost every night i was getting pulled over. the first question they asked and i asked how you doing, officer, how's it going, their first question any drugs or weapons in the car. granted i am a big black guy with locks, you know. first thing they see. i'm just suspicious. but as i was telling the guys, i got to make it home to my family. i can't be another case where an

officer has his knee on my neck choking me out. so my biggest thing is making it back home regardless. anything that's going on outside, you know, i love my family. i love my baby more. and that's a feeling you're going to feel, mr. cooper, like get home. even when your eyes feel like they're about to pop out. you get home to your baby. and that joy and that feeling that you get from that baby, you feel that. >> to the participants in this bam circle -- two of the circumstances are still in their teens and both say they feel like they risk their lives every time they leave their homes. >> when you think about being in school is this something you have to worry about not necessarily the police but shootings, violence, you know,

generally? that something that you think about or something that is not your primary distraction? >> well, me, personally, i love going outside. i love interactions with people. but it is like in the neighborhood i live in it is very hard to do that. every night it is like before i go to bed is it a gunshot i'm hearing? is it a fight. i like wearing hoodies. it is like when i walk down the street, is somebody going to come and target me because i'm wearing a hoodie? do they think i'm up to no good? so that's how i see it. >> james, you worried about this a lot when you were in high school. what about now? >> so high school i used to have to map out my bus route and wear a bullet proof vest so i would wear the vest to school, once i get here hand the vest over to principal ross. and after school.

put the vest back on. navigate through all the gang infested areas back home. to where i felt safe. >> what have you been saying, are you guys still on -- >> so was in englewood. now i'm in marktd park. i know that is not a big difference. i don't go to certain parks, certain restaurant. i also bought another vest. it is still the same thing. it is not over with just because i'm out of school. >> as a father it makes you that much more stressed. >> yes. >> as far as shootings the vest may protect me but encounters with police, what is going to protect me from that? what is going to stop me from going to jail even if i didn't do anything. >> right. you feel like you're getting it

from both sides. >> right. fighting two bagangs. you have the street gangs and you have the chicago police >> i don't want to be another hashtag. i want to live my life out until i'm at least 80 or something. you know? >> not unreasonable. >> while christian says he wants to live until he is 80 years old, james never thought he'd make it to be 26 because of all the violence in the neighborhood where he grew up. all three young men have had their struggles over the years and they're now building lives for themselves and their families. >> you have a sense of what's gone on in the neighborhoods. how do you think we can be most helpful to you guys?

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. across the street from the hyde park academy on the south side of chicago where we met with the former president is jackson park. this is the future site of the obama presidential center.

there's hope the sprawling campus will revitalize this neighborhood where michelle obama was raised and where barack obama started his career. >> right across the street, you know, we're going to be building the presidential center. a lot of our focus is going to be programming for the young people in the community, boys and girls, young men and young women. and given that you guys have all gone through this program, you're in the middle of going through it. you've seen some things, you have a sense what's going on in the neighborhoods. how do you think we can be most helpful to you guys? what are the things you think would be most helpful in young people being able to navigate their own lives, be successful in school, have a positive future, be confident that they can get to 80? give me some sense of what are some gaps we can fill or some

things that are working that we need to build back up? >> i me i feel like having someone to communicate with or to run to without having to worry about getting injured or shot. >> i believe it should be like more opportunities, more internships, more variety of things to do in our communities. because not everybody want to hoop or play ball, play football. >> to trail onto that, i do agree. i feel like there should be more sponsorships and more things within the schools such as like an after school program to keep the kids from off the streets or things they want to do. not everybody wants to fight all the time. people want to express their selves within art. >> we need people to come into the community. so i'm saying like things like that. it's people my age that never tied a tie in their life, but

you go into the more gifted communities they learn how to tie a tie. they know the difference between a soup and salad fork or a soupspoon. >> though i didn't learn that until i went to the white house. >> that's when i learned it, visiting you. >> i gave you the tip you do this, and that's the bread, and that's the drink. the "d" and the "d," that's how i remember it so i wasn't eating someone else's bread and drinking someone else's bread. >> just being able to see things positive. >> that's a great thing. >> hearing each other's stories, seeing each other as we are may not be a simple thing, but for president obama it is a crucial step to bring this country back from the brink. >> proud of you guys. >> great to see you, man. >> proud of you. i like where you're standing by your daughter. i think it's right.

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the defense said a mistake is not a crime. the jury said it was manslaughter. john berman here in for anderson. when indianapolis police officer kim potter shot and killed daunte wright in april, she had 26 years on the job. six years longer than wright lived to be. she had countless hours of training as any officer does on her duties, on the law, on when to use the taser she carried on the left side of her body and when, if ever, to use her handgun on the right. on the 11th of april, in the