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nearly two years into a pandemic, it is the last place anyone hoped to be. yet it is where we begin tonight. jim acosta here in for anderson. new cases of covid are now averaging more than a quarter million a day. that's a record. the number of kids hospitalized with covid is approaching the peak levels reached in september. there is late word from the fda that those home antigen tests which have been in such hot demand lately might not be as sensitive to the new omicron
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variant as they are to older strains. this, as hospitals, schools, transportation networks, and other institutions are scrambling to cope with all of it. a lot to talk about tonight. cnn's tom foreman starts us off. >> reporter: nationwide, hospitalizations of children with covid are up. on average, nearly 50% in just one week. new york city has seen pediatric admissions jump to five times what they were. in washington, d.c., half the kids coming to children's national hospital are testing positive. all told, an average of more than 300 children are being hospitalized each day. that's not because current variants are uniquely targeting them but because -- >> we see children who are hospitalized because of covid or in the icu because of covid. they are all unvaccinated. they are unvaccinated. parents are unvaccinated, siblings are unvaccinated. >> reporter: others fear the return to school next week could be even worse. >> i think that what we are going to see is once children
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go back to school, within a week or two of schools opening is when we are going to see our highest numbers. >> reporter: amid the winter weather, the pandemic is roaring across the country with over a quarter million new cases now diagnosed daily. that's a record. >> this omicron variant is such a game-changer, in terms of its high, high transmissibility. it's like this big virus blizzard. >> reporter: hospitalizations are only about half of what they were last winter, but some states are seeing peaks there too. and more vaccinated medical workers are experiencing breakthrough cases and being sent home just when demand for their expertise is soaring. >> that's still an impossible strain on an already strained health care system. so i understand the pressure to get workers back earlier. >> reporter: the virus is spreading so fast, the impact is now going far beyond the widely reported holiday travel problems. in new york city, apple has closed all its stores to browsing shoppers. in maryland, courts are cutting back their winter schedules. and everywhere, health officials
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are fretting over the long lines for testing. >> so i think that's going to be a significant challenge and we can overcome that supply challenge and also the cost challenge i think will help us tremendously. >> reporter: some health officials think the cdc's new recommendation of a five-day isolation period for some people who test positive might help with all these challenges because it will put more people back on the job sooner. but others fear the pandemic right now is just so aggressive, short of a lot of people finally agreeing to get vaccinated, there is nothing we can do but watch the numbers rise for a while. jim? >> tom foreman, thanks so much. one other late note, tonight's holiday bowl between ucla and north carolina state has been cancelled, this after the bruins announced that internal covid protocols would keep the team from playing. and joining us now is andy slavitt, president biden's former senior white house adviser for covid response and author of "preventable: the inside story of how leadership failures, politics, and selfishness doomed the u.s.
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coronavirus response." andy, what's your reaction to the record number of new cases in the u.s.? and -- and do you think we're currently in the peak of this wave? or do you think things are going to get a lot worse before they get better? >> well, jim, i think we are probably a couple weeks -- maybe three weeks -- out from peak. but i suspect, by the end of january, things will peak. and there is no question that january will be filled with a lot of short-term challenges. hospital beds, staffing shortages of tests, almost everything. it's tough for the system to handle this many cases at once but i think if there is a silver lining, it's when it comes down fast, it's likely to go down even more quickly. and we will -- what we will see is a -- hopefully not nearly as severe. we will still see -- still see a lot of cases in hospitals. we will still see a lot of deaths but hopefully this will be much milder on a percentage basis than what we have seen with delta. >> let's hope. and as you know, president biden
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is revoking travel restrictions on southern african countries when the restrictions were put in place late last month. as you know, the administration said at the time it was to buy time. but what do you think, andy? was that time wasted to some extent as far as ramping up testing capabilities? i mean, we are almost two years into this pandemic. isn't it a major problem that people are scrambling at drugstores and whatnot to find these tests? >> well, look. i think -- i think in a crisis like this where things are growing exponentially, sometimes every day helps. it is problematic to maintain a travel ban against the country that's really doing its duty by reporting it when you really should have our great protocols inside airports to check when people are coming from those countries or any country. so i am glad that the travel ban is gone. as for -- as for rapid at-home tests and, quite frankly, we will see shortages of other things before january is done. it's -- i don't think a few days
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would have mattered there, jim. i think this has been a months-long process. we have quadrupled the number of tests in the last couple months but we still need hundreds and hundreds of millions more given the demand. and i think we have got a good thing in -- in these tests. but there won't be enough in many places to get us through the most trying time and particularly the holidays. >> and how concerning is it that the fda is now saying these antigen tests, these at-home antigen tests may be less sensitive to picking up the omicron variant? that's a major piece of the strategy to keep schools open. really, to keep many of the, you know, airports and all these other important parts of our infrastructure open. >> i need to see more before i get too nervous and so i wouldn't just yet. it is a good reminder that almost every tool we have, whether it's a vaccine, a booster, at-home test, respiratory, a mask, isn't 100% perfect.
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so it's always wise to use, you know, one or more of these things if you want to be doubly certain. that most of them only dramatically reduce the risk and i think what we will probably find here is that, you know, there are periods of time when omicron's infectious at the beginning where the antigen test isn't yet able to pick it up. but i think the recommendation will very likely be that you get two antigen tests in a box. take one on a monday, and then take a second one on a tuesday. and that way, you can be much more certain of the results of the test. >> and let's talk about these new cdc isolation guidelines. the nation's largest nurse's union is saying -- and we -- this is a quote here -- this is about what's good for business, not what's good for public health. the biggest flight attendants' union is saying, quote, we cannot allow pandemic fatigue to lead to decisions that extend the life of the pandemic or put policies on the backs of workers. do these organizations have a point? >> well, look.
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i'd like for the -- the five days to at least be amended with, and after the fifth day, thou shalt take a test and show a negative test or two before being released. so, as long as you say, look, if you have no symptoms and you test negative, then five days according to most people i talk to feels like it's going to be sufficient. there are people that are infectious after the seventh or eighth or ninth day. but generally speaking, they are going to test positive in an antigen test, and/or they are going to be feeling symptoms. so i think -- i wouldn't just take five days in a vacuum. but five days. there are a lot of people who, after five days, the vast majority of whom are no longer infectious. and so if you can get a confirming test, i think then you are probably okay. >> and the president said today that he will make a decision on domestic travel vaccine requirements when he gets a recommendation from his medical team. you know, you were once an
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adviser in that regard. do you think it is time to think about vaccine mandates to fly domestically? we heard dr. anthony fauci hinting at that would be something he would support, and then he sort of walked that back. where are you on this? >> well, look, i think it should be on the table. and i think that the definition of vaccination now really needs to be a third dose. because if we are talking about infectiousness, we know -- we know a third dose or we call a booster dose way better than just two. so i think i am all for tightening that up. and then, look. i -- i put this in front of the president. i think it's a complex question. i'm not sure which way i would advise him unless i was looking at all the data and all the facts. but certainly it's an option that he has available to him and i think he knows he's got it available to him. and if we get into january, i hope that his advisers -- and i am confident that his advisers are going to be, you know, pushing for a decision one way or the other. >> all right.
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andy slavitt, thank you very much for your time. we appreciate it. >> thank you, jim. >> and given the climbing pediatric hospitalization numbers, i want to focus more closely now on what parents need to know, especially as back to school approaches. let's talk to dr. paul offit, who we saw him briefly in tom foreman's report a few moments ago. he is director of the vaccine education center at children's hospital of philadelphia. also a member of the fda vaccine advisory committee. dr. offit, i mean, this is concerning that we are seeing these pediatric hospitalizations on the rise in this country. they are now near their september peak in the u.s. how concerned are you about this? >> well, it's winter and this is a winter virus. so you would expect that there would be an increase, much the same way we see an increase in influenza or other winter respiratory viruses. omicron is definitely more contagious and i can tell you in our hospital, we are definitely seeing more cases of -- of children with covid.
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the good news is we are not seeing a dramatic increase at all really in children who have to be hospitalized. meaning, we are seeing them as -- as -- in the emergency department, for example, or as they come in for other reasons, we are seeing there is an increased percentage of children who are positive. but for children who come in for treatment of covid or go to the icu for treatment of covid, those numbers aren't dramatically up. so what you are seeing is a disassociation then between cases and severe cases. >> and can you just tell us what you are seeing, specifically, in your hospital with pediatric cases and hospitalizations right now? >> so we are seeing pretty much what the national average is seeing. so we see, for the most part, it's mostly children over 5 and certainly a lot of children over 12. i would say two-thirds of them have a comorbidity. the comorbidity most commonly being obesity. but one-third of them don't, come which means that any child, therefore, is at risk of being hospitalized. and as i said earlier, you know, none of those children are vaccinated, nor their parents,
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nor is their family. so it's really frustrating and this was hard enough last year when we didn't have a vaccine. now we have a vaccine that can prevent all this suffering and hospitalization and icu admissions and so we should do it. you know, the job of the parent is to put their children in the safest position possible. that's what these vaccines do. >> and when you talk to these parents or your staff, when they talk to these parents, do some of them talk about being regretful that they did not get their kids vaccinated? or are they just as stubborn that not getting them vaccinated was the right call? >> most of them are regretful. it's interesting, if you look at parent activist groups like families fighting flu or meningitis angels or national meningitis association, all these parents tell the same story which is children who have suffered, you know, meningitis or suffered severe or fatal influenza disease, they all say, you know, i just can't believe this happened to me until it happens to them. and then, when it happens to them, they became vigorous activists to educate people about the disease. to educate people about the importance of vaccines. but you shouldn't wait for that
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to happen. i mean, it is a game of russian roulette in many ways and although it's not five empty chambers, maybe it's 100,000 empty chambers but it's, nonetheless, that game and it's not a game you want to play. i mean, this is -- it's not a commonly severe disease but it can be severe in children and as long as you can prevent it safely, we should prevent it and we can prevent it safely. >> and there are a lot of concerned parents around the country who are worried about sending their kids back to school safely after the holiday break. i mean, what is the advice you are getting? some are wondering if it's better to keep kids home for a week or so to let the dust settle a bit if the school district isn't doing mandatory testing ahead of time. what is your message to parents? >> i think as andy slavitt said just a minute ago, i think it is going to be a rough six weeks and then i do think things will settle down. i think no later than mid-february. but the next six weeks are going to be rough so vaccinate your child before they go to school if they are over 5. make sure that -- that certainly all the teachers in school are vaccinated. and the children wear masks.
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at least for the next, you know, six weeks or so during this period when this highly contagious virus is spreading. and then we'll get past this hump but just hang in there for the next six weeks. vaccinate, mask, we are going to get there. >> all right. we are going to try to hang in there. dr. paul offit, thanks so much for your time. appreciate it. next, breaking news. one of pro football's most recognizable and best-loved figures of all time has died. a look at the life and impact of a coach and truly legendary broadcaster, john madden. and later, after so much work behind closed doors, late word tonight on when and how the house select committee plans to go public in its investigation of the capitol attack. and we will be joined by two veterans of the watergate hearings to talk about what we might see this time around.
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whether you are a lifelong football fan, video gamer, a lover of classic beer commercials or just hate to fly, this will hit home. john madden, whose name was associated with all of the above and more has died. he was 85. and in addition to all of the above or perhaps because of it, he held a special place in the hearts of millions for the humanity he brought to all of it. more now from cnn's andy scholes. >> i have never worked a day in my life. i went from player to coach to a broadcaster, and i am the luckiest guy in the world. >> reporter: super bowl winning coach, pioneering broadcaster, video game icon. a larger-than-life personality, john madden was, by any definition, a true original.
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during his 30-year broadcasting career, madden was widely considered the voice of the national football league. >> you have to attack them with the pass and you have to attack them deep with the pass. >> reporter: his passionate way of calling games with unique catchphrases. >> packers came out, they went boom and got ten points. >> reporter: and a love for using a telestrator helped explain the game to fans across america. he called nfl games for all four major networks announcing 11 super bowls and earning 16 sports emmys during his time in the broadcast booth. madden's nfl playing career was short lived. he was drafted in 1958 by the philadelphia eagles but a knee injury cut it all short. that's when he decided to try his hand at coaching. eventually becoming the youngest head coach in professional football history at the age of 33. in 1977, he led the oakland raiders to a super bowl victory and is still the franchise's all-time wins leader. madden was inducted into the pro football hall of fame for his coaching career in 2006.
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>> boom. >> reporter: madden was a television advertiser's dream. becoming the pitchman for numerous brands. >> let me tell you. ace is the place for me. >> reporter: in 1988, madden entered the video game world lending his voice and name to what is now called madden nfl. >> anything that goes that far, that fast, ought to have dinner and an in-flight movie. >> reporter: his video game is still the most popular football video game ever, selling more than 100 million copies worldwide. whether it was his video game, his broadcasting career, or a hall of fame coach, his passion for the game is what will always be remembered. >> some of us think maybe we will be immortal, that we will live forever. but when you really think about it, we are not going to be. but i say this. through this bust, with these guys in that hall, we will be forever. >> and that was andy scholes reporting. joining us now, cnn sports
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analyst and "usa today" columnist, christine brennan. christine, so many fond memories of john madden. i grew up watching him call those washington football team games against the eagles and giants and the cowboys. he and pat summerall were just legends in the broadcast booth. but of course he had an amazing career in the nfl, as well, as a coach. what do you think his legacy is going to be? i mean, i should also mention i think i bought every one of those madden nfl games for my kids. you know, over the years, as well. >> sure. well, what you just said i think is really illustrative, jim, of -- of the impact of john madden. you asked what his legacy would -- will be or is -- is now even. it's -- it's the nfl, where it is. this is, of course, our national pastime. this is, you know, super bowl sunday is a national holiday. everyone watches the games. you turn it on, the tv ratings, you know, any other sport, it pales in comparison. and john madden really was the epitome of the nfl, and brought the nfl into everyone's home at
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the moment it was exploding in our consciousness. those raider teams, those renegade raider teams, the super bowl. such a young coach. he retired at 42 with a super bowl victory with an incredible record as a coach and then he goes on to a second act, jim, and a third act. and it's all happening exactly as the nfl is becoming our most popular league and sport. and -- and a part of our culture, not just sports. but really, a way of life for so many american fans and so many people who just are casual sports fans who just love nfl football. so madden really personified, i think, everything that brought those fans to the game. >> yeah, he made the game so relatable. i mean, who can forget when, you know, a running back would hit the hole, you know, he would go boom! he would talk about how the running back would hit the hole and go boom! and he would use the telestrator to draw circles around the players on the screen to show, you know, which they were going as the play was developing and so on. he would sometimes draw circles around the gatorade, you know, containers on the sidelines and
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and he would talk about just all the atmospherics and the color you would see going on at nfl games. he just had a knack for making it so relatable. some of his stats as coach, though. seven afc title games, the super bowl win with the raiders. incredible. but he retired from coaching at the age of 42. i find that to be just an interesting, you know, part of his -- i guess, his career and the history of his career. how big of a surprise was that at the time that he left coaching at that age? >> i -- i remember being surprised. i wasn't yet in the business. but obviously, as a fan, it was like you -- you have this great team. you have got this great record. you are one of the best coaches to ever coach the game, and you leave. well, there was so much more yet to come for john madden and we are so lucky as sports fans, jim, that -- that he did that. that he then went to the booth, he worked as andy's -- andy's piece said for every network as an analyst. and he brought the game to americans. and what a human touch.
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i mean, this larger-than-life fellow, literally. i knew him. i didn't know him well. but what a kind, gentle soul. a smart man. a lovely human being. and so the perfect person to, again, be that personification of the league that he loved so much for millions of american sports fans. and yeah, a great coach. but also, there is so many people now born and raised and loving football who didn't even know he was a coach because it was the madden bust, it was the man in the booth and then of course the video game and all those commercials. he carved out an incredible life for himself and deservedly so is remembered so fondly tonight. >> yeah, he was football, no question about it. christine brennan, we could talk all night about this. maybe i'll give you a call later, we will reminisce about john madden. thanks so much. appreciate it. next, with the anniversary of the attack on the capitol approaching, what we are
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as the anniversary of the january 6th attack on the capitol approaches, we are learning more tonight about what to expect from the house select committee investigating it. most significantly, about when the accountability process might actually go public. cnn has learned the committee plans to hold hearings to be followed by an interim report by summer and a full report by the fall. though the timeline is said to be flexible. members have, as you know, already interviewed more than 300 witnesses and issued dozens of subpoenas. as for what we might get to see when we actually see it on tv,
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we are joined by david gergen, cnn political analyst and adviser to presidents dating back to the nixon administration. also, former congresswoman elizabeth holtzman, who served on the house judiciary committee during watergate. more recently, the author of "the case for impeaching trump." david, let me start with you. what do you think the committee is trying to achieve with this new timeline? and do you think this is going to be effective? lot of people are wondering, you know, is this going to -- you know, is this going to take too long to have this full report come out in the fall right before the midterms? >> sure. having an eye on the clock. in the democrats' case, they really want to keep things -- speed it up, as much as they can because they know in november, they may lose the house of representatives in the midterm votes and they want to make their case before that midterm vote. so they can keep their numbers in the house as close to majority as possible. and also as a setup for the general election. and so far, i think they have done better than i would have
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expected. the hearings are very, very important, especially in washington. the event itself, the assault on the capitol, of course, went deep into the public psyche. but since then, it -- it's had a quality of being sort of a below-the-fold kind of story, as we say in the newspaper business. >> i think you're right. and -- and that should change. it should be above the fold, no question about it. congresswoman, with an interim report in the summer and final report due in the fall, how likely is it republican allies of the president will try to run out the clock? i mean, if they're looking at a report coming out in the fall and it's being announced that it is going to come out in the fall, how likely is it they are going to run out the clock? and is that likelihood any number below 100%? >> well, they are going to try and i am reminded of a quote i am going to read or try to paraphrase from richard nixon who told his aides -- he said just stonewall, take the fifth,
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do whatever you can, cover up or anything else if it will keep the plan going. so, i mean, that's what we see. stonewall. take the fifth. cover up. do whatever they can. but the fact of the matter is there still will be many witnesses who can tell what happened. and we don't need the full report for the public to be persuaded about the basic narrative. remember, in watergate what was key when the senate started its hearings was when john dean testified. that blew the lid off everything, and that focused the american people's attention on the fact that the president himself could be guilty. so we didn't need -- the senate report was issued in 1974. i don't know anybody read that but they listened to john dean and they saw the testimony that came out. so that's the critical thing, the public hearings, who the witnesses are, what the documents are, how sincere they are, how well the members of the committee handle themselves.
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all those things are going to be critical to persuading the public about the president's involvement and his guilt, whether it's criminal or otherwise, his role in this which is awful and horrific. >> and david, we are learning in just the last several minutes that the former senate majority leader, harry reid, has passed away. he's been battling illness for some time. i had a chance to interview him a couple of times this past year. he was 82 years old. but really, just a legendary figure in the history of the united states senate. you had multiple opportunities to work with him over the years during his long career. how do you think he is going to be remembered as -- as a democratic leader in this town? >> well, i -- i think he will be remembered as coming from small town america and working his way up. and becoming senate majority leader. that, in itself, is -- is a real feat. i think in terms of what he actually will be remembered for
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by historians, he will not be in sort of upper tier presidents. he will not be remembered -- or -- or top leaders of the country. but he will be -- be remembered for i think his partisanship and i -- i think the man -- i think harry reid, underneath, was a better man than he was sometimes portrayed in the media. there was a lot about him, at least in my conversations with him, and i -- i came away respecting him. but he really -- he's gotten a bit of a rough ride by the media. >> and congresswoman, let me ask you about, you know, something harry reid told me just before his passing in interviews this year. he said that it's time to get rid of the filibuster. he did issue, you know, a cautionary warning about expanding the supreme court. so he was an institutionalist, in many ways. but, you know, as somebody who, you know, practiced the art of the filibuster and so on as a -- as a senate leader, at the end
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of his life he was warning the country that this is standing in the way of important progress. >> well, he was right about that. and harry reid was a great strategist. actually, brilliant tactician. he was very smart in that respect, shrewd, and handled the democratic majority when he had it in the senate well. his warning about the supreme court? well, we'll see what happens with that. but the filibuster right now is standing in the way, as he said, of something that's really vital, namely the right of every american to vote and have his or her vote counted and nothing can be more basic than that. and if some rule of the senate stands in the way of getting that -- making sure that every american has the right to vote and have the vote counted, then we got to change that rule. >> i remember over the summer, senator reid telling me that one of the things he enjoyed doing was giving former-house speaker john boehner a hard time. but at the same time, he said they got a lot done.
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and there was sort of an understanding, back in those days. and, you know, it was combative back then, as well, david gergen. but, you know, you could get things done and be congenial behind the scenes, even if you were duking it out, fighting it out in the headlines. and that is just so sorely missed these days. >> well, that's true. reagan and a lot of others have followed since then. before 5:00, knock the brains out of the other side. after 5:00, have a drink. sit down, tell old stories. and that worked pretty well for lyndon johnson. didn't work quite so well for harry reid but it is a better way of doing things than what we have now, that's for damn sure. >> absolutely. david gergen, elizabeth holtzman, thanks so much. appreciate it. the breaking news, the former senate majority leader, harry reid, has passed away and we'll continue that coverage as the night goes on. in the meantime, an emotional day for the family of a 14-year-old girl who was shot
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in a dressing room during a police shooting right before christmas. they spoke out for the first time today about the teen's legacy and her last moments with her mother. cnn's kyung lah has the tragic story. that's coming up, next.
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a gut wrenching scene in los angeles today. the mother and father of a 14-year-old who was killed during a police police shooting at a department store on december 23rd appeared before reporters for the first time. the victim's mother shared what those final seconds of her daughter's life were like as they huddled together in a dressing room holding one another. cnn's national correspondent kyung lah has details. and we will warn you some of the video you are about to watch is violent and may be difficult to take in. >> reporter: searching for strength no parent should ever need, solidad peralta recounted the horror no mother should ever live. something struck my daughter valentina, peralta says. it threw us to the ground and she died in my arms.
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that something was a bullet from a los angeles police officer. the lapd was responding to multiple calls of an attacker in the burlington clothing store in north hollywood. >> i have a customer in my store attacking customers. >> reporter: in the chaos of 911 calls were reports of a shooter inside. >> a guy with a gun. >> reporter: police say the attacker did not have a gun but this metal bike lock, which he used to strike random female shoppers. hitting one so violently, she was bleeding on the floor. >> she's bleeding, she's bleeding! >> reporter: the lapd says as they shot the suspect, one of those bullets ricocheted off the floor and went through the wall, striking 14-year-old valentina orellana-peralta in the chest. she was hugging her mother in a dressing room as they hid from that attacker. they were praying. you can hear the horror in the seconds after the bullet struck valentina.
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[ speaking foreign language ] >> reporter: our sweet angel is gone forever, she says. valentina, give us the strength to bring you justice. my daughter, i love you. her father held up a skateboard, the christmas present valentina never opened. i am going to leave it at her grave, says her father, so she can skate with the angels. valentina and her parents are immigrants from chile. the 14-year-old wanted to stay in america, say her parents, believing it was safer here. >> they came to america from chile to get away from violence and injustice. they can't believe this happened in america. >> and, kyung, what is the
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status of the lapd investigation into this officer-involved shooting? >> reporter: well, the lapd is indicating that it is very early in its investigation. just days after the shooting, jim, this will be reviewed by the california attorney general's office as well as the california department of justice. the officer who fired those shots -- that officer has been placed on paid administrative leave. that's per department policy. and as far as the parents, jim, we are hearing that through a lawyer they are looking into a possible civil lawsuit. jim? >> all right, kyung lah, thank you very much. joining us now is one of the attorneys representing the girl's mother and sister. thanks for joining us. i'm sorry it's under these circumstances. first, how are valentina's parents holding up tonight? i can't imagine. i can't imagine. their heart -- their hearts must be just so broken right now. >> yeah, jim, their hearts are -- are broken. it's been broken since december 23rd.
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and there is not going to be any healing of those hearts. but they're exhausted. they are absolutely exhausted. they wanted to tell everybody how they were feeling. they appreciate all of the love and support that they've received, but it's just been hard. >> and looking at the response from the lapd so far, it's obviously still early in the process, as kyung was just saying a few moments ago. but based on what you have seen so far, what do you make of how this investigation is being handled? >> well, i think there's two things going on here. one, the reason why the footage that they've chosen to release as quickly as they did happened i think is because of the public outcry. and so they're responding to that more so than, in my opinion, doing just the right thing. and with respect to how they are delivering the information, if
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you saw the initial communications by the police chief moore were not consistent with what we saw in the videos. and the videos that we've received are not all of the videos. and so what we're really looking for is transparency with all of the evidence out there and i just haven't seen it yet. and unfortunately, that's not surprising to me. >> and valentina's father today said during the press conference that he, quote, will not rest until justice for his daughter is served. what is that justice? that sense of justice, in his mind, do you think? >> well, you know, the sense of justice really -- the ball is in the lapd's court right now on that as to how they're going to respond and react. you know, hope springs eternal. but an ideal situation would be where the lapd actually reaches
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out, and they say, hey, look, we've looked at the video. any reasonable person would recognize that that was an unreasonable use of force, violation of lapd policies, and it's our fault. now, the bigger question -- and the lapd should be more introspective and be asking for our help and working hand in hand in trying to figure out is this a systemic problem? is this inadequate training? is this inadequate supervision? are the policies and procedures wrong? is the culture wrong? and generate reform so that there are no other parents with children like valentina that are lost needlessly. and if reform can be developed, that would be fantastic and it could lead to the improvement of the culture of the lapd and maybe of law enforcement all across the country. and, you know, without speaking directly or on behalf of the
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parents, i know that is exactly what they want. >> all right. our hearts go out to the family. thank you so much for being with us tonight. we appreciate it. >> no, thank you, jim. >> thank you. coming up, as the january 6th committee works to reveal their findings, the former president's allies appear to have a strategy to drag out the investigation. cnn's sara murray walks us through that, next. ♪ superpowers from a spider bite? i could use some help showing the world how liberty mutual customizes their car insurance so they only pay for what they need. (gasps) ♪ did it work? only pay for what you need ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ spider-man no way home in theaters december 17th (swords clashing) -had enough? -no... arthritis. here. aspercreme arthritis.
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cnn political correspondent sara murray breaks down their method and what it could mean for the committee. >> dan scavino, everybody. >> reporter: as the committee struggled in october to serve dan scavino with a subpoena, he took to twitter. the dangerous and false narrative of me avoiding a subpoena is a disgrace. not one attempt was made to contact serve me at mar-a-lago for six days. he hired a lawyer, quietly engaged with the committee and still has not testified. his status as a witness is in limbo. his allegiance to trump is on full display. in a december jaunt to mar-a-lago, game four of the world series in atlanta, and at an october rally in iowa. trump railed against the committee. >> the left's new obsession is the unselect committee. >> reporter: as the committee seeks information about roles trump allies played up to or during the events of january 6th, some loyalists like scavino
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are slow walking, stonewalling or snubbing the committee while doubling down on allegiance to trump. >> that is 100% of the calculation. what is the death grip on the republican party is the idea of donald trumpen running again in 2024 and people not wanting to risk losing stature with him. >> reporter: pleading the fifth rather than answering the committee's questions. >> i did my civic duty and responded as required by law. >> reporter: after stone's last appearance before lawmakers in 2017 during the russia probe -- >> the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. >> reporter: he was convicted on charges of lying to and obstructing congress and witness tampering. trump pardoned him. recently stone popped up in a mar-a-lago event. and posted about chatting with trump. donald trump is my first, second and third voice for 2024. for some would-be witnesses their fealty to trump comes at a higher price. the house recommended contempt charges for former
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white house chief of staff mark meadows now suing the committee. >> this is about donald trump and actually going after him once again. >> reporter: despite meadows work to curry favor with trump, their relationship has been strained. both from embarrassing revelations in he meadows' book and the fallout from some documents he gave to the select committee before he stopped cooperating. steve bannon was charged with criminal contempt of congress. after defying a committee subpoena. he pleaded not guilty. and appears to be wearing his resistance as a badge of honor. s i have a previous engagement that i can't get out of. you are going to be talking about -- >> master of the understatement. >> you are going to be talking about -- you are going to be talking -- keep it -- >> reporter: while bannon's relationship with trump runs hot and cold, bannon is still clear about his loyalty. >> we are going to hit the beach. you had the landing teams, that nomenclature they use when
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details. >> reporter: it wasn't easy, but conservators in richmond, virginia, drilled their way into this time capsule that's more than 100 years old. >> we are going to cut one side of the box where we can see i probably won't hit anything to release some of this pressure. >> reporter: it was discovered monday beneath the base of the robert e. lee statue months after this historic moment. the 134-year-old time capsule is made of copper. according to the newspaper from 1887, is supposed to contain 60 items. this x-ray taken after its discovery offered the first images. items inside were said to include a battle flag, compass, 12 copper coins, confederate buttons, even a picture of former president lincoln lying in his coffin. only one photo of the casket still exists and the conditions
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inside the capsule aren't exactly ideal. >> water just squeezed out of it. maybe more wet than we hoped for. >> reporter: one of the first items pulled out, a coin. >> the coin says, 1883. appears to be silver. united states. >> reporter: as conservation experts dug deeper -- >> 1881 by daniel murphy. constitution of bylaws of virginia, 1887. >> reporter: also a masonic flag carved out of wood, and this 1884 commemorative ribbon featuring robert e. lee. many items were stuck together, especially the books, making them difficult to identify and extract without ruining them. >> even though we managed to clear out a section of this, they are stuck together. >> reporter: when it was found on monday, the governor of
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virginia tweeted, they found it. trouble is, they thought they found it a week and a half ago. when construction crews pulled a different time capsule from the base. after hours of work opening that one, they realized that time capsule was not the one they had been looking for. it was made of lead, not copper, and only contained a handful of items, including a few books, an envelope and a coin. in this latest capsule there was one bullet, newspapers, books and -- >> a button with a naval symbol on it. this coin says 1853. >> reporter: conservators are still documenting the items and comparing them to the list published in that 1887 newspaper. but so far no picture of abraham lincoln in his casket. they found a photo from harper's weekly of someone weeping at lincoln's grave. >> it was perhaps taken from a photograph, but it is often
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engraving in a newspaper. so the newspaper was from 1865 from what we can tell unless it was a reprint, which has happened. so there is really -- there was no photograph per se. >> reporter: randi kaye, cnn. >> the news continues. cnn newsroom starts right now. ♪ ♪ coming up here on cnn newsroom, a pandemic fueled by omicron, setting new records of infections around the world. he was described as charismaticly charged. but one of the best political deal makers to lead the senate. a look back at the life of harry reid. and john madden, revered broadcaster, video game icon, an