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plus, the political world and sports world are mourning the death of two giants, harry reid and john madden. first to the pandemic because the u.s. is hitting a record seven-day average of 265,000 new coronavirus cases on tuesday as two highly contagious variants are fueling surges across the country. we should note the number of hospitalizations are not yet rising at the same rate. meanwhile, the cdc is shortening its estimate of the pref lens of the omicron variant from 70 to 59%. the drop suggests while the new variant was certainly on the rise, it is not infecting people at the same rate the agency had projected. and pediatric hospitalizations are also near their september peak. nationwide, hospitalizations of children with the vie are us have jumped on average. nearly 50% in one week. parents are understandably
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concerned as vaccination rates, particularly among the pediatric population continue to lag, leaving many children potentially vulnerable to infection. president biden says vaccine requirements for domestic travel could be imposed if his medical team recommends it. dr. fauci says don't expect that one for now, as health officials are advising we should brace for cases to skyrocket in the new year. leyla santiago in miami with more. good morning, leyla. >> reporter: good morning, john. we have been at this site all week long. this is one of the busiest in south florida. and we really haven't seen the lines lit up. we are still talking to people who tell us they had to wait three hours to be tested. now, we have also talked to the workers here. they tell us they are expecting
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that demand in testing to continue into the new year. >> it's almost like covid started all over again. so with the influx of patients coming through. a lot of people aren't feeling well. that is why their had he coming to us. we have a lot of patients concerned. i was exposed. i was next to somebody who was exposed. i just want to make sure i'm okay. >> and that's for the on-site testing. you know, it's really hard right now to get orhands on the take-home rapid test kits. the county distributed 152,000 of those on friday. now they are out. at this point there's no telling when they will have more supplies to distribute. john? >> leyla santiago live in miami, thank you very much. joining us is infectious
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disease expert at loyola-chicago. this is a big concern to parents, seeing these numbers go up at the rate that they are. though we should note we haven't seen the cases be severe. that is good news for parents not to panic over this. what is your advice based on what you are seeing on the ground now? >> we are concerned as well. we are right now seeing more cases per day than at any point in the pandemic. our number of daily cases is now 70 per day over the last week. that's more than three times our previous peak a year ago. and so my advice is surely not to panic. importantly, the vast majority of children infected with covid have mild infection. but you do have to be aware that does put your child at risk for hospitalization and puts your child at risk for transmitting to other people in the classroom if measures aren't taking to prevent it, risk of spreading to
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other people in the home who may be at high risk for hospitalization. so we can do that by being aware of the symptoms. symptoms can be quite mild, sore throat, cough, runny nose or more severe like difficulty breathing, fever, things like that. so if you have the symptoms, seek testing, avoid contact with others and speak to your physician about when is the appropriate time to go to the emergency room or hospital. >> doctor, you just described a three-fold increase from the previous high you are seeing among kids at your hospital. tell us more about the kids who have been opted. how sick are they? what are they symptoms? what percentage are vaccinated? >> yeah. the vaccination rate in chicago currently, we've done i think a really great job of getting vaccine to our adolescent and teenage population.
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70% of 12 to 17-year-olds in chicago are fully vaccinated. 70% of 5 to 11-year-olds are unvaccinated at the moment. so that's an opportunity. and the kids that are in the hospital varies by age and their co morbidities. children with medical complexity more likely to be in intensive care unit because of shortness of breath, inflammation of the heart. those kids may or may not need a ventilator. infants may only have fever and are evaluated for more serious bacterial infections that need antibiotics and are cured. some have croup. they can run the gamut for hospitalization. >> no parent wants their child to go to the hospital at all.
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and stepping back, though, and looking at the new numbers overnight, what is the significance to you of the cdc slashing its estimate of how much omicron is circulating in the united states right now. >> to be honest, those estimates that they presented a week ago seemed much too high with what they projected for omicron to have increased. i'm not surprised to see lurie's estimate. for all practical purposes, i'm not sure that number -- >> all right. >> he was saying there, john -- unfortunately we lost him and we wanted to keep asking questions. he's not sure how much significance the cdc changing the numbers and the estimates. also it shows the delta variant is still fueling a lot of the surges we are seeing in cases. it's not just omicron people have to be concerned about.
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it is still delta variant, which of course we know was dominant in the u.s. and so many other countries for so long that was such a major issue. i do want to remind viewers, we have an interview with the director dr. rochelle walensky to answer questions about everything you want to know about the new cdc guide answer, pediatric hospitalizations. so we will have that coming up for you shortly. >> lots of questions for her. harry reid, one of the longest serving members died at 82. he died after a four-year battle with pancreatic cancer. he rose from a hard life in searchlight, nevada, to the pinnacle of power in washington, spearheading two epic legislative battles, affordable care act and economic stimulus package, both landmark victories under president obama. >> tributes are pouring in led
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by former president barack o obama. and others recalling their friendships with harry reid. flags will be lowered to half-staff in his honor. more on his life and legacy. >> reporter: he led democrats in the senate for a decade. but harry reid called one of his proudest accomplishments the impact he had on presidential history, especially couraging be -- encouraging barack obama to run. >> he was stunned i was the first one that ever suggested that to him. when he was re-elected, that was one of the most moving phone calls i ever received. because he said you're the reason i'm here. >> reporter: he spearheaded epic legislative battles like obamacare with a scrappy style he learned during his improv irished childhood. he was born, shaped and scarred
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in searchlight, nevada, he grew up in this shack. his mother did laundry for the local brothels. his dad always looking for work as a miner. both drank heavily. during that 2006 visit to searchlight, he casually pointed out where his father took his own life at 58 years old. >> this house right here, that last room is a bedroom. that's where he killed himself. >> reporter: he fought his way out of poverty as a boxer. as a politician, he was never afraid to punch below the belt. he took on the mob as a young politician in las vegas >> a wide variety of adjectives have been written about you. >> some good, some bad. >> reporter: let me read a few. canny behind the scenes mastermind, ruthless, all those
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fair? . >> well, that's what people think, that's what they think. they're entitled to their opinion. >> reporter: as senate democratic leader, he was a polarizing figure. republicans argued a lot of professional gridlock stepped from his hardball tactics. but he revelled in playing the political bad guy, calling george w. bush a lose i and liar long before politicians used the "l" words. >> i don't really care. i don't want to be somebody i'm not. >> reporter: during the trump presidency, however, reid changed his tune about bush. >> in hindsight i wish every day for a george bush again. i think that he and i had our difference, but no one ever questioned his patriotism. there is no question in my mind that george bush would be babe ruth in this league that he is in with donald trump. donald trump wouldn't make the team. >> reporter: in 2012, he used the senate floor to accuse mitt romney of not paying his taxes,
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even though he had no evidence. >> have he has refused to release his tax returns. >> or some people called it mccarthyite. >> they can call it whatever they want. he didn't win, did he? >> reporter: years later, reid asked to meet with romney to make amends. >> we shook hands and put stuff behind us. >> reporter: why was it so important to tie up that loose end? >> i try to do that with everybody. >> reporter: he inspired fierce loyalty with long time aides and senators. he often told colleagues he loved them, even in public. >> i love you, john kerry. >> reporter: he had a storybook romance with his wife, his high school sweetheart. the two converted to mormonism when they married. >> she had a pair of levis on
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yesterday and i said, man, she looked so good. >> it's true. >> reporter: an exercise accident left him bruised and blind in one eye. he was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. the key mow made it hard for him to walk. >> that is one of my keepsakes from donald trump. >> reporter: never any complaints? >> i'm doing fine. i'm busy. i work quite hard. >> reporter: reid was an unlikely political leader in today's media age, soft spoken and gaffe prone. >> i didn't make it in life because my athlete prowess. i didn't make it because of my good looks. i didn't make it because i'm a genius. i made it because i worked hard. one of the things that i hope people will look back at me and say, if harry reid can make it, i can.
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>> love that. joining us now cnn chief political correspondent dana b bash. that was an unbelievable package you did and the conversations with areid. when you covered him behind the scenes, what were the secrets to his success in the inside game and tell us the things about what people may not have seen about harry reid behind the scenes? >> reporter: yeah. one of the big secrets, when he gave somebody his word, he kept it. and he was a bit abrupt. i was talking to one of his former colleagues last night who was joking about the fact that he would just hang up the phone and not say good-bye. the first couple of times people would do that, people would be put off and said did i make him
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off, and then they realized that was just reid. he engendered fierce loyalty because he did keep his word. and one thing people might not realize about him is that he was very much ahead of his time when it comes to having a family-friendly office. first of all, he loved having strong women work for him. he had a lot of them in senior positions pretty early on. and, second of all, when those women got married and had families, there were a lot of offices where it's just so intense that the women decide, i want to go do something else that is more family friendly. he would say, no, i want you to stay. you just get your work done and make sure that you're there even by phone when i need you. and you come and go when you want based on what you need to do for your family. that was unheard of when he started to do that. and i know so many stories from women who stayed with him for so long because he made that environment work for them.
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>> and, jose, you know him about as well as pretty much anyone. i wonder, we often talk about this tactician that he was and how he operated behind the scenes. even republicans are, like, they give him credit for the work that he did. i'm wondering what it was like to watch that from behind the scenes? >> reporter: it was -- well, first of all, it was an honor to have worked with him for the time i worked with him for about six years. he, as you said, was a tremendous tactician. he built that on relationships. and his knowledge of the senate role. and that concept of loyalty, making sure it was a two-way street. he would reward that both with staff and with the senators who worked with him.
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he was able to negotiate even though his demeanor seemed to be that of a tough guy who would give no ground. i remember for the aca, when he tried to deal with the senator from nebraska in order to get to the amount they needed to the senate. >> dana, look, reid, legend airily tough. genuinely didn't care what people thought about him. had this rise from nevada, tough growing up.
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but he was very progressive on mental health. you say how he was ahead of his time. tell us how the death of his father from suicide helped shape others. >> reporter: he was matter of fact about pretty much everything when i went to see him. it was before he became majority leader. it was about this time of the year in 2006. we were driving by. he said, oh, that's where my father killed himself. he talked a lot about it, not just in private but in public early on, john. testifying before committees in order to try to break the stigma of mental health, which was -- which is a big deal then. it was 15. >> 20, 25 years ago. and it was because of what he witnessed in his own family with his own father, and others in his family who had mental health challenges. he wanted to use his position to
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say this happens in every family, including my own, and we need to deal with it. >> something we talk about so much now is the filibuster. this will be part of his ennduring legacy, the changes to the roles for nominees and how that shaped what we see even now today. he told dana, i believe, he had no regrets about that. how is that a decision that he made? >> reporter: well, first of all, mcconnell's m.o. during the entire presidency was to obstruct everything that the president proposed and did. fbg spha, you all remember when mcconnell said his mission was to ensure barack obama was not re-elected in 2012. when reid saw this and saw the level of obstruction that mcconnell was leveling against the president, including the nomination of judges, judicial
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nominations, he felt we needed to lead that in the judiciary. if mcconnell was going to play hardball with him, he was going to play hardball as well. he came up with that decision. and he never regretted it,s never looked back. >> yeah. and i know eric holder in his tribute said the democrats would be a little more like harry reid today. we will see how that looks. dana, jose, thank you both for joining us to talk about the life and legacy of harry reid. >> in definitely. we're also remembering football giant john madden this morning. we've got much more on his life and legacy next. plus, what's behind the cdc's new five-day isolation policy if you're asymptomatic? the cdc director will join us live. some of my best memories growing up, were cooking with mom. she always said, “food is love.” so when she moved in with us, a new kitchen became part of our financial plan.
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to build a future of unlimited possibilities. news that has just rocked the football world this morning with the legendary nfl coach and
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beloved analyst john madden has passed away unexpectedly at age 85. nfl commissioner roger goodell had this to say about madden. nobody loved football more than coach. he was football. he was an incredible sounding board to me and so many others. there will never be another john madden. and we will be for ever in debted to him for all he did to make football and the nfl what it is today. christine brennan. christine, this is something that shocked the football world. they are devastated. the tributes pour in. he was not just a football player or coach. he turned that into this amazing broadcasting career he had. >> kaitlan, with his incredible career, he basically dragged americans into loving the nfl even more than they already did.
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and he brought the nation along at a time when the league was exploding. the entire length of his career is also the time when theful n became our national pastime. when you think of the super bowl being a national holiday. where on sundays people stopped what they were doing and watched a football game for two. it became not only sports but cultural. and john madden led the way. he was larger than life figuratively, literally, a kind, gentle man. but every man. just a good guy. a warm, compassionate person with his telestrator drawing circles and his exclamations and waving his arms all around. he was your next door neighborhood. he was in your living room or family room bringing football as it was growing and gaining in stature and the appeal that it has now with american sports
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fans >> you're so right, christine. he was so beloved. he was your next-door neighbor. he was an evangelist from the sport from video games back to his time on air and coaching. but i want to focus on his coaching because that sometimes gets overlooked. remarkable record. youngest nfl coach. retires at 42 during 10 seasons with the raiders, playoffs eight times, 100 wins in 30 odd losses in that period. tell us more about his record as a coach in addition to the personality folks felt they knew from their tv screens. >> reporter: that's so important, john. there are so many people who are, let's say, 30, 20rbgs wha -- 20, who know him because of his commercials or the game. hall of fame career just on coaching. as you said, 10 years. the youngest nfl coach, 32. retears at 42.
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most coaches are just getting started. he won the super bowl, of course. that raiders team was iconic. a group of renegades, tough guys. he would let them live their lives monday through saturday because he knew on sunday he would have their best. they loved him. they relied on him. he relied on them. and that was a feared group in the silver and black, those oakland raiders. and he got the best out of them every single week while respecting them and letting them be who they were. some cases reviled and despised. >> he also just had this great attitude. he said he never worked a day in his life. whether he was a player, coach, broadcaster, he never felt like he worked a day in his life. he had so much fun. that was obvious to all of us who listened to him, loved listening to him. he will be incredibly missed. thank you so much for joining us to remember his legacy this
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morning. >> thank you. my pleasure. take care. >> absolutely. all right. next, the u.s. and russia sitting down for security talks in just a matter of days. will that help ease tensions over ukraine. and those long lines for covid testing in the u.s. they are still wrapped around the block in some places. should health officials have seen this coming? on us, 3 pro, when you trade in your old or damaged phone. (kate) better? (guy) better. (kate) hey. (kate) and up to $1,000 when you switch. (carolers) ♪better♪ (kate) because everyone deserves better. hi susan! honey? yeah? i respect that. but that cough looks pretty bad... try this robitussin honey. the real honey you love... plus the powerful cough relief you need. mind if i root through your trash? now get powerful relief with robitussin elderberry.
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u.s. and russian officials are set to hold security talks beginning a week from monday. tensions have been growing for months over thousands of troops a massed at the border. many of those troops are now gone. and moscow wants guarantee nato will not expand to the east or let ukraine join the leans. nic robertson is in moscow. it's good to see you both. natasha, what are the expectations for talks on both sides of the divide? >> reporter: yeah, john. the u.s. is hoping they can
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figure out a solution to this with the russians as the russians of course continue to build up military presence along the ukrainian border. they are hoping in january, when they sit down for the bilateral talks that there are things that can be worked out. the russians obviously have their demands. they don't want nato to expand further east. they don't want ukraine to be a member of nato. and certain aspects are nonstarters. president biden said russia should not be able to dictate who is and is not a member of nato. they are going into talks with things very tense. the ukrainians are stuck in the middle of all of this and have been briefed by the united states on alarming intelligence about the russian's intentions and how they are potentially preparing for a large-scale
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conflict. so the u.s. is really hoping to buy some time here, hoping things will come down to a summer when they meet with the russians in january. >> that's always the question. nick, you know, let's talk about russia's intentions. they have been ramping up war-like rhetoric in ukraine and the west in recent weeks. they seem to have drawn 10,000 troops from the ukrainian border. what do you believe is putin's end game with this buildup returning to a table to have talks with the biden administration? yeah. this gets to that fundamental difference between the way russia views the situation and the way the united states and nato allies view the situation, not just in terms of what nato's
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intent is but the very way they negotiate. we have heard from u.s. officials saying we can reach agreement on some points on this. we're going to put our issues on the table as well. very likely we will walk away with disagreements. we are used to that in the west. let's agree to differ on this issue, not get into the small minutia of it. let's park that part of the issue there. russia is coming at this from the perspective of ukraine are what nato plans to do there are a black and white issue for us. we need to have clarity. you know, from a russian perspective, putin wants to know, with legal guarantees, that nato isn't going to expand. if this is a point of contention, that the u.s. and the europeans feel that there can be a degree of ambiguity
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over, russia's feeling is, no, that's not the case. 4 we have to have clarity on this issue. even the negotiating styles if you like or the views on of a broad outcome are different here, i think key for putin is what he can sell at home domestically. as he has huge influence over the media, ever-growing influence, it has to be said, the way he can message what he gets out of the talks, he can be quite powerful in shaping the message. he needs to walk away with something and set a high standard. he has really pushed and pushed in a most extreme way to have these talks in an urgent manner. it's difficult to see both sides will get satisfaction here. >> very difficult to see. we will see if the emphasis on talks is perhaps more of what he wants than an actual invasion of ukraine. the good faith is the key issue. natasha, i want to end this with
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you. biden says there is no discussion about ukraine without ukraine at the table. but ukraine is not going to be at the table in these talks, so how do they manage that? >> that's right. i asked about this because ukraine is not a party of two of the three bodies to discuss ukraine's future, to discuss nato expansion and whether they will become a member one day, or if that's a russian red line. officials said they will be consulted every step of the way. essentially what's going to happen is talks will take place. ukraine is going to be, you know, meeting on the sidelines and talking on the sidelines with the u.s. and consulted about the substance of the talks. ukraine will not be left out of the discussions entirely. but of course they are hesitant to be happy about that because they feel like they should be at the table when their own future is discussed. now, the u.s. obviously thinks it will be helpful to have bilateral discussions with the
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russians. that is what russians have been watching as well. >> but when these meetings expand later in the month, ukraine, especially when they sit down with osce, they will have a seat at the table. this is a process by which ukraine is involved even if they're not involved directly. >> some team to learn from recent history. nic robertson will have much more in the coming days and weeks. thanks very much. up next, new isolation rules for people who test positive for covid. the cdc director is standing by to tell us about the science behind that decision. that's coming up. with quality that's guaranteed for life, bath fitter doesn't just fit your bath, it fits your high standards.
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seven-day age of new coronavirus cases as the new omicron variant accounts for 60% of cases in the u.s. according to the cdc. joining us is the cdc director dr. rochelle walensky. doctor, thank you for being with us this morning. it cuts the isolation period in half if you're asymptomatic. how do you settle on five days for everyone? >>st good morning, kaitlan. thanks for having me. we looked at several areas of science here. first, the science of how much howe transmission happens in the period of time after you're infected. we know the most amount of transmission occurs in the one to two days before you develop symptoms, the two to three days after you develop symptoms. if you map that out, the five days account for someone between 85% to 90% of all transmission that occurs. we really wanted to make sure that during the first five days you were spending in isolation, that's where most of it occurs. of course there is this tail end
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period of time in the last five days where we are asking you to mask. but the other things we were looking at is the epidemiology here. we are seeing and expecting even more cases of this omicron variant. many cases are mildly symptomatic, if not asymptomatic. and the behavioral science. what will people do when they get back to work? if we can get them to isolate, we want to make sure they are isolating in the first five days when they are infectious. >> this decision had just as much to do with business as it did the science. >> there well, it really had a lot to do with what we thought people would be able to tolerate. we have seen relatively low rates for all the pandemic. they demonstrated less than a third of people are isolating when they need to. we want to make sure we have guidance in this moment where we were going to have a lot of disease that could be adhered
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to, that people were willing to adhere to, and spoke to specifically when people were max maximumally infectious. it spoke to what people were able to do. >> if this is based on science that you already had at the cdc, why didn't you make this change sooner than this week? . >> well, so, our guidance was conservative before. it said 10 days of isolation. but in the context of the fact that we were going to have so many more cases, many of those would be asymptomatic mildly symptomatic, they would be able to be at work. this was the moment we needed to make the decisions. >> the uk shortened its period of isolation to seven days but with a negative test on day six and day seven, negative rapid test. why didn't the cdc recommend taking a rapid test after those five days?
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>> yeah. really important question. so we do, just to be clear, recommend having a rapid test during your period of quarantine after you were been exposed. >> but for isolation? >> for isolation, exactly. we opted not to have the rapid test for isolation. we actually don't know how our rapid tests perform and how well they predict whether you're transmissible during the end of disease. the fda has not authorized them for that use. we don't know how they perform. so what we said was, well, if you got a rapid test at five days and it was negative, we weren't convinced that you weren't still transmissible. we still wanted you to wear the mask. we still wanted you to wear a mask. given we were not going to change our recommendations based on the result of that rapid test, we opted no the to it. >> if that's the case, why when a few days ago when the cdc khaerbg changed guidance for
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health care worksers, they said if you were asymptomatic, you could go back to work with a negative test. why would health care workers need a negative test but now everyone doesn't? >> i want to be clear our infection control recommend aeugss in the workplace are more stringent for health care workers than the general population. they are treating immunocompromised patients, treating praeurbgts who have already lying medical conditions at high risk of covid and may be severely ill. in all of our areas of infection control, we are much more conservative with health care workers than the general population. >> did the shortage of tests play a role in this decision? >> no. this decision really from the isolation standpoint had everything to do with the fact that we wouldn't change our guidance based on the result of the rapid test. and you know it didn't have
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anything to do with any shortage at all because we recommend rapid tests for those in quarantine. . >> well, on test, i do think the administration deserves credit this week for saying, yes, the u.s. is not where it needs to be when testing. i covered the former administration where the former president said and the cdc in march 2020 said everyone who wanted a test could get a test. that was not true then. now people still cannot get rapid tests easily. when is everyone going to be able to walk into a drugstore in january specifically and be able to pick up one of those rapid tests? >> the government is doing a lot. we have the need to do more. and i think that was articulated this week. we have a half billion more rapid tests coming in the month of january. and i think really in the context of this omicron surge not just here but across the world there is a global shortage of rapid tests. >> but even once they are back on shelves, which you know dr. fauci said would happen in
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january, they are still pretty expensive. i don't think it's been clear from the administration why they're not free or basically free if you want people doing as much testing as the administration has recommended. >> we now have 20,000 where you can get a pcr on site and more coming online in the current moment. the administration is doing a lot to make sure they are affordable and accessible. and i know with this bringing of half a billion rapid tests that are coming in january, there will be free rapid tests at sites so people can easily access them. >> they can be, you know, $25 or a box of two tests. but i do want to ask you before we let you go two quick questions. one, the cdc has revised its estimate how much omicron is in the u.s. right now, pretty significantly from what the cdc
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said. so what is the >> really important question. what we do, we take the genomic surveillance data and do p predictive modeling. and of course early in omicron when we had really rapid speed, those predictive estimates can be less stable. and that is what happened in this period of time. and so we have revised our estimates, we've done so transparently. but i think the important thing to note here is that there are areas of this country that have 20% omicron, there are areas of this country that have 90% omicron. and what we have seen and what our predictions have demonstrated is that this is a rapidly increasing variant in the united states. >> it is a rapidly increasing variant. i think that is why sequencing is so important to so many people to know of course where it is and how much of it is here. also, parents are paying close attention to this rise in pediatric hospitalizations that we've been seeing.
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luckily most are not severe cases. but i'm wondering if you have an update for parents on when kids under 16 can get a booster shot and when kids under 5 will be able to get vaccinated at all. >> so the first thing to note is to get your children vaccinated. we have vaccines available above the age of 5. the fda is currently looking at the issue of booster shots for those 12 to 15. and i know that the companies and manufacturers are working towards data for children under 5. that will not be in the month ahead, but we're working hard to get there soon. >> do you know the time line for boosters? because i think that parents are asking if my child who is of that age of 12 to 15 can get vaccinated, why can't they get a third shot given the heightened concern that we're seeing right now. >> yeah, absolutely. so the fda is looking at that right now. of course the cdc will swiftly follow as soon as we hear from them. and i'm hoping to have that in
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a family is breaking their silence after their 14-year-old daughter lost their life in the dressing room of a burlington coat factory to a stray bullet from the gun of an lapd officer. it happened two days before christmas and now the family is calling for justice and transparency. joining us now is their attorney, benjamin crump. good to see you, sir. we've all heard that her family came to america seeking safety. so tell us how they are holding up right now. >> they are devastated. christmas will never be the same for them just as her father said his heart was ripped out of him. he hasn't had a decent night's sleep since it happened. and her poor mother, to have
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your child die in your arms at a shopping mall buying a dress for christmas because of a police bullet from the lapd. they are in complete disbelief. >> it is a heartbreaking tragedy. and you know, the lapd did release the officer's body cam footage quickly. and we spoke to retired sergeant dorsey who said it indicated to her that this was a tragedy certainly because no indication of any improper officer conduct to her eyes. come yo do you believe the lapd used excessive force in this instance? >> i think that they have training for these type of situations. and john avlon, put yourself in the shoes of these parents whose daughter ended up as collateral damage from the lapd engaging
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the suspect in this manner. it was simple that there would be shoppers in a shopping plaza wo two days before christmas. i think everybody knows that they were going to be innocent people, so they should have taken every reasonable precaution to make sure that an innocent person like this 14-year-old valentina wasn't shot and killed two days before christmas. >> let's talk about that. the footage does indicate that the second floor appeared to be empty. you had this incredibly violent assault by the person who was shot by the police in the course of killing young valuentina. but you said that this was foreseeable. how could it have been foreseeable to the officers at that moment given what they were able to literally see? >> well, several experts have weighed in besides ms. dorsey and they all said where were the
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verbal commands. you saw the person going away from the victim. was there anybody in the vicinity, why did you have to shoot in the store, could you have used lessen intrusive measures than this rifle that you knew would be powerful. how many shots hit the person and how many didn't. because a police officer has to take all of that into account when you are shooting inside of a shopping center for god sakes. >> it is certainly a heartbreaking tragedy and our love and sympathy go out to her family as they confront a new year without their daughter. benjamin crump, thank you for joining us on "new day." good morning to our viewers here in the united states and
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around the world. it is wednesday, december 29th. i'm john avlon with the great kaitlan collins. wishing you a good morning. we are following three major stories this morning. the u.s. shattering its record average of daily coronavirus cases, and the cdc slashing estimates for how much omicron is actually in the u.s. plus, the political world and the sports world are mourning the death of two american giants, harry reid and john madden. but first let's get to the pandemic. the u.s. hitting a record of more than 265,000 new coronavirus cases tuesday alone as two highly contagious variants fuel surges across the country. but we need to note that the number of hospitalizations are not rising yet at the same rate. and the cdc is lowering the estimate of the prevalence of the omicron variant from 70% t


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