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that he had not only with officials that had a very close relationship with the former president donald trump but trump himself and in this letter that they sent to thahannity they outline several text messages he sent to mark meadows, jim jordan, where he expresses concern about the way the president was conducting himself, and questions the motivation they had to convince the former vice president mike pence to stand in the way of the certification of the election results. they want to know about those conversations. they want to know how trump responded to these pleas by sean hannity. it's interesting because the posture that we're seeing in the private text messages very different than the public posture sean hannity had at that time and then of course the days and weeks after. >> has there been a response from mr. hannity's attorneys? >> so jay sekulow who's representing sean hannity at this point said that he and his client are reviewing the letter, and they're trying to decide how to respond to it but earlier before he had actually seen the
letter itself she said that he s concerned there are some first amendment issues with this request. the committee makes it very clear that they're not interested in hannity's television program or his work as a television commentator, they're much more interested in his role as a political adviser to the former president and they want to know what role he played in the decisions that were made around that time and if he can offer any insight into how the president and those connected to him conducted themselves during that period of time. >> if you read the text messages that were released it seems like he may have spoken to the white house counsel, he was certainly having communications with other people certainly a lot in the white house and on capitol hill. i understand you're learning about the committee wanting to speak directly with the former vice president. >> that's right, anderson, i spoke earlier today with the chairman of the committee bennie thompson and asked how interested they are in learning more about mike pence and specifically if they would be interested in talking to him,
and thompson said yes, in his mind, he would love it if pence came forward on his own accord voluntarily and sat with the committee and told them what he knows about the events leading up to january 6th. at this point, the committee has not even made that formal request for him to come forward voluntarily or issued a subpoena but they are very interested in talking to pence, and what's interesting about this, anderson, is that we already know that there are a number of close pence aides, mark short, his former chief of staff, keith kellogg who served as national security adviser, who have come in and spoke with the committee about what they know about those events so the role that pence played is central to the investigation. thompson told me he's interested in learning about the pressure campaign that was put on pence's shoulders at that time and also the security situation that he was under. the situation that forced him to be led out of the senate chamber and he wants to know how his security detail handled that
situation. >> ryan nobles, appreciate that. hundreds of people charged after the riots, and as jessica snider discovered one year later many are not ashamed what they did no matter what it cost them. >> if you ask me if i would do it again, i want to say yes but i question, would i. >> reporter: former proud boy, josh hewitt describes the past year as a train wreck. >> i don't think what i did wrong but the consequences that came out of it would make me question it. >> reporter: prosecutors laid out an array of video as evidence against it. he can be seen confronting capitol police officers after walking in through the shattered doors. he is caught smashing a sign, all of it leading to eight federal charges against him including counts for destruction of government property and acts of physical violence, but pruitt defends his actions that day, clinging to the big lie that former president donald trump
continues to spread in saying he has no plans to plead guilty. >> i was a patriot out there, you know, protesting against what i think is a stolen election. trying to send me to prison for a few years over this i think is a complete joke. >> reporter: are you concerned that you could be in fact sent to prison. >> i am concerned. >> reporter: pruitt is among the more than 700 people now charged in connection with the capitol attack. 70 plus defendants have been sentenced so far, about 30 getting jail time. >> the first week in january, i have to report to prison. >> reporter: jenna ryan flew a private jet to washington and notably boasted that storming the capitol was one of the best days of her life. her lack of remorse prompted the judge to impose a 60 day sentence after she pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. the judge saying he wanted to make an example of her after she shamelessly tweeted she wouldn't get jail time since she has blond hair, white skin and did
nothing wrong. >> all the 600 people who have been arrested are wondering what's going to happen to them, and prison can happen. >> reporter: several of those sentenced are expressing remorse. eric row got 45 days in jail after pleading guilty to one count of disorderly conduct. federal judge admonished him for trying to undermine the peaceful transfer of presidential power, what he called one of the country's bedrock acts. rauch struggled to speak at sentencing, telling the judge, there is no excuse for my actions on january 6th. i can't tell you how much this has just twisted my stomach every day since it happened. another rioter robert reader got three months in jail. during his sentencing, he pleaded with the judge saying he lost his family, his job and his place within his church community after january 6th. i am embarrassed. i am in shame, reader said, the hurt that i have caused other people not just to myself has left a permanent stain on me, society, the country and i don't want to be ever remembered for
being part of that crowd. isn't willing to admit guilt or cooperate with prosecutors. video of pruitt pledging to become a member of the proud boys in november 2020 went viral. pruitt says prosecutors are asking him to help make the case against other proud boys facing conspiracy charges. but he claims he no longer associates with the extremist group. >> i don't have anybody to throw under the bus, nor would i anyway, and i just, what i'm saying doesn't fit their narrative. because they would like me to come forward and say that it was planned and i'm like, no, it wasn't. everybody thinks that people had all these plans of going in the building. not to my knowledge. i was in touch with some pretty right wing people, and we never heard anything about that. >> reporter: while pruitt waits out his next court date, he spends most of his days inside his nashville apartment wearing an ankle bracelet and abiding by
a 9:00 p.m. curfew except when he's working as a bartender, something that is approved by the court. pruitt expects his case to go to trial, and says he still stands by the big lie. >> i do believe the election was stolen, for sure. >> reporter: and do you still believe that? >> i still believe it. >> reporter: jessica schneider, cnn, washington. >> let's get perspective from barbara walter, a professor in san diego, author of the forthcoming book "how civil wars start and how to stop them," appreciate you joining us. i want to jump right to the title of your book because it's a fascinating subject. how do, in the civil wars you looked at, how do civil wars get started and how close do you think is the united states? >> yeah, anderson, i have been studying civil wars for the last 30 years in places like syria, iraq, mozambique, northern ireland, and one of the things that we've learned is that certain factors tend to emerge across cases no matter where these civil wars break out.
over the last five years, i have been watching what's happening here in my own country, and one of the things that i have seen is that these same factors are emerging here in the united states, and they're emerging at a surprisingly fast rate. that's the reason why i wrote this book. >> what factors are you talking about. what specifically do you look at. mozambique, you had a very violent, incredibly violent, what are the parallels? >> yeah, so we don't look at individual cases. for four years, since 2017, i was on a task force run by the u.s. government called the political instability task force. and one of our jobs was to come up with a predictive model of where around the world, not here in the united states, where across the globe political instability and political violence was likely to break out. and we put in 56 different factors from poverty to income
inequality, all the things we could possibly think of that might lead a country down the path towards war. and to our surprise, two factors were by far the most important, the first was what we called anocracy, partial democracy, neither fully democratic or autocratic, they're something in between, and the second important factor was whether citizens, the population of these countries broke down along racial, ethnic, and political -- racial, ethnic and religious lines, formed political parties along those lines, and then tried to capture power to exclude everyone else. so it was this mix of aknock si and racial politics that were the two best predictors of civil war, and of course when you hear that, and you think about our country, our democracy has been
declining over the last five years. in fact, right after january 6th of last year, our country was classified for the first time as an anocracy since 1800. the united states is no longer the world's longest lasting democracy. that honor goes to switzerland. and of course our politics have become increasingly defined not by political ideology but by race. >> so how does a place step back from the brink of this? >> so we do also understand this, and i guess there's three things that i'd want to tell the american public. the most important thing is simply for citizens to be aware of the dangers of democratic decline. don't be complacent about this. i talked to a lot of people, and many of them don't feel particularly worried about what's happening with their democracy because they're
thinking about authoritarian regimes, and they know that it's a very very long road before we become like an iran. so they're not threatened by it. what they don't know is that there's this in between stage that can be quite unstable and quite violent. and that's the direction the united states is heading. so we know the warning signs of civil war, and if we know them, we can do something to prevent wars before they happen. the second thing i would say is to take a partisan politics out of our elections. it's becoming increasingly easy for parties to meddle in the elections, and that's deeply undemocratic and of course the last thing is to strengthen our democracy. our executive branch has become increasingly more powerful than every other branch so we need to reinstate checks and balances on the executive.
and we know, of course, that there's been voter suppression, and then already real undemocratic elements of our democracy like gerrymandering, like the electoral college, like big money in politics, all of that needs to be reformed. full liberal democracies do not experience civil war. >> barbara walter, i look forward to the book, thank you so much. appreciate it. >> my pleasure. still to come tonight, the house select committee's desire to speak to sean hannity as it's trying to gain access to the white house records, a former archivist joins us to discuss what might be in the records. and the different approaches taken by the nation's major school districts. put 48 hour frs and 1 quarter moisturizers in. dove 0% aluminum deodorant lasting protection that's kinder on skin.
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sean hannity for cooperation comes as the committee is in a fight with the former president over his white house records about that day. the fight in the hands of the supreme court, of course. last night a democratic member of the committee, zoe lofgren join us to talk about why they're so important. >> you mentioned national archives, why do you think that information in particular may be so relevant? >> well, it has everything. it's got the call logs, who called in, who visited, it's got the rough drafts of comments that he made. we understand that there were several videos made, you know, they have the outtakes. so we want to see, give us an insight into what the former president thought he was doing during those 187 minutes when he failed to intervene. >> i'm joined now by a former archivist at the national
archives, john carlin who teach at kansas state university and previously served as the governor of that state. appreciate you joining us. you told the daily beast referring to the former president's legal battle, given how frantic they are there are things in those records that are going to make real trouble, i'm talking about prison time. why do you say that? what makes you believe that there could be some criminal exposure in those records? >> i base it quite frankly on the fact that the president is spending a lot of time, energy and actual money lawyers trying to keep it from happening. why he would do that if he wasn't worried about what was in those records, i think is pretty obvious. he knows there are things there that would cause him serious problems. i assume at some point certainly hopeful that those records are released so that the committee can have access to them and in doing their job. this is really an exercise in
why records are so important. >> yeah. >> government cannot be held accountable unless you have records. >> can you explain for viewers what kind of records the white house is required by law to preserve? i mean, how big is the scope of the things that have to be handed over at the national archives. >> well, it's broad. everything is considered a record. it's not like an agency where you have schedules where you can, some records you might just need to keep for five years, never go to the archives, some 25, et cetera, et cetera. everything since starting with watergate moving forward, presidential records, the tapes, the text messages, et cetera, whatever system it's on. >> and how can an archivist be sure that, you know, a white house, the trump white house actually did preserve and turn over all the documents it was required to preserve, for
example, the white house official wrote an e-mail or memo about the events, what's to stop the sender or recipients from deleting the document or tossing it in the trash? >> well, unfortunately there is no way to stop that. my sense is that i'm quite sure the archives got a lot of records. what they don't know is what percent of the actual records that were created that they have. because we have a serious flaw in our system. the national archives has this huge responsibility but they have no authority, no power to really engage with the president during the term similar to agencies. they can kind of hope, check in, volunteer to help, but they're at the mercy of the record keeping system and, in this case, of the president. and therefore, no one really knows, anderson, what percent of
the records are actually in the archives, how much was lost along the way. literally because of the way the system is operated, and the failure of congress to give the archives enough authority during the term so that they can report to congress and say, we got a problem here. it just doesn't happen today because they don't have that authority. >> also, i mean, if presidential aides are using their private devices or using encrypted communications, you know, telegrams, signals, things like that, those are not things that would necessarily, if it's on someone's private device, be turned over, correct? >> that's kind of a gray area that quite frankly, i've never dealt with in my experience. but watergate made a dramatic change, and i spent all my ten years dealing with the nixon tapes, but in terms of some of the new technologies of the last 15, 20 years, i can't say
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with new covid cases tonight averaging nearly 550,000 a day and the cdc out with some confusing guidelines on testing, i wanted to focus on the surge within the surge, according to the american academy of pediatrics, childhood covid cases are now at record levels and though kids onts whole deal with it much better than adults do, the latest surge is overwhelming children's hospitals over the country, and driving the difficult debate over schools. new york's new mayor standing firm on keeping the country's biggest school system open for in-person learning. in a number of other major school districts it's back to online learning or los angeles and the other big school systems, a delay in reopening classrooms. joining us now with more cnn senior data reporter, harry enten. so hospitals give a better glimpse into why some schools are delaying returns, switching to remote. what do the numbers tell us? >> look, it's about students but it's also about teachers, right, we know that hospitalizations, among those under the age of 18
at their highest point in the pandemic, but they are still significantly lower than they are among adults. if you look at this particular point and right now under the age of 18, it's 5 per 100,000 under 18. and obviously teachers have to come in and teach in order for schools to actually function. here's the most important thing. the most important thing here is the way that we can get this pandemic most under control is the vaccine's work and they work ridiculously well. they work well for adults, and they work well with children. if we look over the time from basically june to november, look at that, among those aged 12 to 17, the unvaccinated covid hospitalization rate is 12 times higher than the unvaccinated than the vaccinated and adults 13 times higher. get those vaccines. it's a big way to keep the schools open and children safe. >> the down sides of kids not learning in a normal school setting are pretty clear. >> they're very clear. there was a study that came out,
one particular study looked at third to 8th graders, they said we're going to take a look at their achievement assessment, and look at this, in math down 10 percent tile points, in reading, down 5 percentile points, and it's the hardest hit among minorities and the youngest minorities. look at 3rd graders on math. among hispanics, down 17 percentiles, among blacks, down 15 percentile points, among whites and asians, they're not down nearly as much, but still 9 and 9 percentile points in math among 3rd graders. clearly there's been a real decline because of covid when you compare 2021 to 2019 which was obviously a much more normal school year. >> i assume there's an income element behind the numbers. >> absolutely an income element. if you look at the low poverty areas versus high poverty areas, median student, math third grade, in the low poverty areas it's down but just 6 percentile points, and the high, 17
percentile when you compare the 2021 to 2019. obviously 2019 was before covid, and here's the reason why it's down so much in lower income areas or at least one of the reasons why. if you ask basically the parents of those students who had to stay home because the schools were closed, did your children have trouble completing your school work because of tech problems, in the lower income areas, look at that, income adults said that their children had problems, tech problems versus in the upper income areas, it was just 18%. lower income and minority groups were hit the hardest, at least when it comes to children learning. >> harry enten, i appreciate it. fascinating to look at the numbers. perspective from dr. danny benjamin, distinguished chair of the abc science collaborative. appreciate you joining us. some schools in multiple states around the country are shifting to online learning or pausing the return to in-person learning to a few days to a few weeks. do you think that will protect students from becoming infected with covid or is keeping the schools open better? >> keeping schools open is
undoubtedly better. there's four reasons for that. in the masked environment, we know that there's no data that closing schools systematically helps transmission between children. we also know that transmission at school is one of the lowest places for transmission to occur. in fact, transmission is so low there that it's comparable to perhaps the safest place for children to be. if you look at noncovid outcomes, it's not just about learning, anderson, it's about any other non-covid health outcome is worse when you close schools. mental health, nutrition, suicide, self-harm, violence, on and on. and finally, closure of public schools was the biggest public health failure for children in our lifetime. >> wow. >> so why do we want to do that again? >> it was the biggest public
health failure in our lifetime for kids. >> correct. >> wow. >> what about if there's not masking in a school environment, still you argue it better to keep the schools, the schools are still safer. >> yeah, i think it's a little more of a closer call there because you're going to have more transmission. we have an ongoing study of 60 school districts, 1.3 million children nationally involved in that study, and masking reduces transmission by about 80%. so you're going to have more cases and more transmission in these unmasked districts but there, you're making the argument that we should punish children for the failure of adults to uptake a free, safe and effective vaccine. and for the children who are in
those schools, the parents who are worried about their children in those schools, if they will vaccinate their children, they make it so that covid is less of a threat to their children than influenza in a typical influenza year. >> dr. danny benjamin, i really appreciate it. thank you, fascinating. >> absolutely. thank you. coming up next, the democratic effort to pass voting rights legislation in the senate, resistance it's facing from republicans, and complications from democrats who don't want to do what it takes to overcome that resistance. the filibuster is back. we'll talk to democratic senator, amy clklobuchar about . nationally ranked hospitals,e including two world-renowned academic medical centers, in boston, where biotech innovates daily and our doctors teach at harvard medical school, and where the physicians doing the world-changing research are the ones providing care. there's only one mass general brigham.
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in our last hour, you heard an expert on tyranny talk about our democracy as the anniversary of the insurrection approaches. it's neither exceptional or self-sustaining that a democracy takes work to preserve it, especially the right to vote. tonight, with republican state lawmakers nationwide passing more restrictive voting laws, congressional democrats are pushing legislation they say to counter it and head off something they say is potentially even worse than
january 6th. that said in the senate, in addition to resistance from republicans, democrats are also facing reluctance of two democrats, senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinema, to compromise legislation without gop votes. chuck schumer set a january 17th deadline, martin luther king day to vote on changing the rules to do just that. joining us now is minnesota democratic senator amy klobuchar, lead sponsor of the freedom to vote act. senator, appreciate you being with us. seems without the support of senators manchin and sinema, the effort to change the filibuster, make an exception for voting rights can't go forward. so what is the plan? >> we're continuing to speak to these two senators and let me make the case to your viewers that i have made to them, and that is it didn't end on january 6th, and the bay onets, and the bear spray were simply replaced by bills that basically legislation passed in georgia
that says in the last month of voting in the runoff period, no voting on weekends. that passed, anderson. legislation that says in wisconsin only one drop off ballot box for the entire city of milwaukee. vetoed by governor evers fortunately, but we are seeing this across the country. things that were in place in montana for 15 years taken away. it is an assault on our democracy. and it is part of a plan and it is our job as senators to put aside everything else right now, in my mind, and protect our democracy. that's what we are supposed to do is to defend the constitution of the united states of america. that's what's going on. that's what's liz cheney is doing, by the way, by being willing to put her entire political career at risk, by supporting going forward with the investigation over in the house, and that's what we have to do with voting rights in the united states senate, it is about our democracy, and it is not one bit radical to change
the senate rules. there are 160 exceptions to the filibuster. things that have been used through the years. senator bird himself said you change the rules to fit the circumstances of your time. >> you talk about possible carve outs, if you make those, do they then from here on, are they in place? because, i mean, the argument among, you know, that manchin and others have made is, look, if democrats change the filibuster now, once, you know, if the house moves to the republicans the next election, those changes when they take back the senate, if they take back the senate, what happens to democrats then? >> okay. let's start with the filibuster. i personally would get rid of it. i think that no matter what happens, you have to get to a majority vote. and as you saw from the recent infrastructure bill, there's a lot of people that will work in the middle to try to get things done. and at this point, we can't move
on major legislation like climate change and immigration reform. but short of that, given that we have two senators that don't want to make that change, there's also other things we can do that we're discussing with them to restore the senate. the standing filibuster, where you actually force people who are objecting to a bill to be there, big radical change, anderson, it's the whole idea of, and i'm kidding, that was a joke. >> i understand, yeah. >> that's what we did -- thank you -- that's what mr. smith goes to washington was about, right, you have to actually be there if you're going to object to something. >> that is sort of the image people have of a filibuster. >> pardon? >> that is the image one has of a filibuster, you think mr. smith goes to washington. >> you know what the real image is right now, anderson, people say, oh, i object to that, i'll put a hold on that, and then they go home and raise money. okay. that's what's happening right now. and so restoring the senate would actually require people to be there if they're going to hold legislation and debate it
out and get things done. that's what i believe our constituents, no matter if they're democrats or republicans, want us to do. they want us to stand for something so that is the concept of changing the senate rules, especially when it comes to our democracy. right now we have literally states that are considering taking away or that are trying to dismantle nonpartisan voting boards and having legislatures, partisan legislators instead pretend that they're counting the votes. this is not a dictatorship. we are proud of our democracy. the world watching us, and if january 6th stood for anything, it was that in the end, despite the horror of the day, democracy prevailed. people from both parties stood up, 92, 93 senators stood up and said we support the electoral college. some of us voted for joe biden, and some of us didn't, but we support our democracy. and two weeks later, everyone stood on that stage, regardless of party under that blue sky and
joe biden and kamala harris were inaugurated. we walked through that broken glass with spray paint on the statues in the capitol, and i vowed that day that we're going to carry on our democracy, and crow do that by figuring out exactly what happened, holding people accountable no matter who they are, and yes, passing on the torch to the next generation of this democracy by making sure there's strong rules in place to protect the right to vote. >> senator klobuchar, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up, 50 miles of interstate frozen by severe weather, the good news for drivers tonight after hundreds of them were trapped for hours, excuse me, and the truck driver among them who found a path to generosity while he waited for help. he shows us how, next. alka seltzer plus cold relief. dissolves quickly. instantly ready to start working. so you can bounce back fast with alka-seltzer plus. now available for fast sinus relief.
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stretch into a frozen parking lot overnight, a truck driver this morning hopped out of his cab, walked over to a family and offered them a heated breakfast while they all waited for help. still stuck on the road, i spoke with that trucker, john carlo, about the warmth they felt in the cold. you have been stuck on the highway since 1:00 a.m. last night. i understand you woke up this morning, you saw a car, what made you decide to head over with some food? >> most cars in that situation were having it ten times worse than truckers out there because they're ready for a short to to three our commute and truckers are out for a day, a week, a month at a time. >> and i understand it was a man and his mom, how did they react when you came up to them? >> they were really thankful. they were shocked at first. because they're like, oh, why
are you doing this, that's so nice, and, you know, i went there with -- to get rejected, i don't know if i would take a stranger's meal. they were nice, how i like to portray myself, they took it, and they ate it, so it was a nice gesture. >> so what was the what was the meal by the way? >> it was bacon, eggs and cheese. oh yeah, i love it. i got a styrofoam cup of water. >> where are you now? >> i know your destination is georgia, how long do you think is going to take to get there? >> 95 is still shutdown so i am stuck in dale city, virginia, for now. i was at woodbridge, virginia
last night. >> how long have you been driving for? >> i started in september of 2020 and up until the 2nd biggest traffic jam was two to three hours at the most. that was a fatal semitruck and multi-collisions and they clean it up as fast as usual. i understand winter conditions and ten miles from the standstill location. it was a blanket of snow but black ice underneath. people were just zooming by with semitrucks and cars either way. >> and all the time you were stuck in the highway, did you see any authorities or police trying to rescue anyone or clearing cars? >> from the point i was stopped
at 1:00 a.m., the first police car i saw was around 7:30 a.m. and a snowplow vehicle followed behind that. >> well, i mean you have such an important job particularly in these times and i mean i appreciate what you do and i hope you get your destination quicker than you think you are going to. i hope you have a safe journey. >> yes, sir, thank you. >> coming up, troops deployed to america's hospitals. how doctors and nurses are at a new line of defense, that's next. and yes to living life to the flavor-fullest. panera. live your yes. now $1 delivery. i've got moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are getting clearer ♪ ♪ i feel free ♪ ♪ to bare my skin, yeah, that's all me ♪ ♪ nothing and me go hand in hand ♪
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ohio's governor is trying to ease the work force so he sent in a force of his own. tonight our gary tucker shows us how boots on the ground are giving hospitals some relief. >> in the over night hours, justin lightener goes into a room to take care of patient. >> hello. >> so does brandon brown. >> and jordan white does the same. >> hi, can i take your vitals? >> reporter: none of these are employees at the hospital? all are at amed medical trainin. justin is working with the hospital's registered nurses. they're taking care of 88 years old covid patient who just got transferred out of the intensive
care unit. give me a second. >> you decided to join the national guard after seeing what happened on 9/11 when we were in kindergarten. >> i want to help my community. >> reporter: there are 28 national guard members working at the hospital. not only because the hospital is full but because by 400 employees at this hospital are out of work because they have covid. >> reporter: the officer in charge of the mission at this medical center consists of not doing medical tasks. >> are you concerned any of your national guards will get covid? >> absolutely. within two days, we had four guard members symptomatic with sore throats and headaches and nasal congestions and they all tested positive for covid. >> reporter: the personal risks are inherit part of the mission. the chief nursing officer is
grateful. >> just extra help and know that others are looking out for us is greatly appreciated. >> reporter: frank hudson also ended up in the icu after tested positive for covid. >> how are you feeling? >> good? do you need anything? >> i am ready to get out of the hospital. >> i bet. >> she's an emt and wants to be a nurse parishioner. can i put this on your finger? >> perfect. you can relax a little bit. >> reporter: were the patient surprised when you tell them you are in the military and you are taking care of them? >> yeah, they're like really? they think it's cool and i am glad they feel that way. >> reporter: the national guard members also take care of patients in the hospital for other illnesses. patient hunter here for a torn aorta and bleeding. he's getting an alg.
>> there is a sense of pride when you know you are helping your community. it's a beautiful feeling honestly. >> reporter: always on people's minds here of the sense of sadness that so many people don't get covid vaccines. >> in the icu admissions, 90% of the patients are unvaccinated patients. >> reporter: did you know in addition to the nurses and doctors that you have people from the national guard and military helping you out? >> oh yeah. they're so good. they are wonderful. >> reporter: how does it make you feel? >> very safe. >> reporter: among these people who have been so very sick, a feeling of american patriotism. >> the best i have feeling in the world. >> reporter: the national guard members are scheduled to be at this hospital for two weeks. it can be extended and likely there will be a need to extend it. i want to mention, anderson, spending the over night hours an
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