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hello, everybody. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king in washington. thank you for sharing your day with us. the supreme court says no again to the former president. the january 6th committee gets access now to white house notes and records detailing what donald trump did and what he refused to do as his supporters stormed the capitol. plus, president biden closes a consequential first year and says going smaller is the path to success in year two, and just moments ago the president cleans up a mess of his own making,
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warning vladimir putin any military action in ukraine will bring a heavy price. we begin right there with the breaking news from the president of the united states. just moments ago trying to quiet international alarm about a possible russian invasion of ukraine. let's get straight to the whose and cnn's jeremy diamond. the president trying to fix his own mistake. >> reporter: no doubt about it. i was in that meeting with the president. he was supposed to sit down with the team working on the implementation of the infrastructure legislation, but he instead began right off the bat talking about ukraine and making very clear where he stands should russian troops move across the ukranian border. listen. >> i've been absolutely clear with president putin. he has no misunderstanding. if any, any assembled russian units move across the ukranian border, that is an invasion, but, you know, it will be met with severe and coordinated economic response. let there be no doubt at all, that if putin makes this choice
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russia will pay a heavy price. >> yesterday, president biden had suggested that something like a quote, unquote, minor incursion might not result in the same kinds of severe costs. listen, this is not the first attempt to clean this up. we saw statements from the national security council spokeswoman, the white house press secretary jen saek and ultimately the president of the united states. his words necessary to make very clear to u.s. allies like ukraine as well as adversaries like russia that any kind of movement of russian troops across the boardlerrder will ren severe costs. what the president was referring to is the fact that russia has tended to use other tactics, the green men seen in the disputed region in eastern ukraine or cyber attacks, for example, as well, and the president said that he believes the u.s. and its allies need to be prepared to craft some kind of other response to those types of russian activities. the president though did not take questions. i tried to get him to respond to comments by the ukranian
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president and to see whether or not he's spoken with the ukranian president but we do know that secretary of state tony blinken has been in kiev working on the cleanup as well. >> as jeremy notes this is a huge deal internationally. before the president released those remarks his top diplomat attempting to clean up on his behalf as well. secretary of state tony blinken consulting key allies before he heads to geneva for a very important sit-down tomorrow with russia's foreign minister. our international correspondent kylie atwood is here. the president now cleaning up his remarks and tony blinken taking the lead out on the world stage. >> reporter: yeah. the secretary of state says if russia moves forth with any further aggressions into ukraine. of course, that would include a minor incursion, that machine will be met with united, swift and severe consequences so making it clear if russia does anything to cross that border, that they are going to face consequences. the secretary of state was standing next to his german counterpart who said there would
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be grave consequences for any additional russian aggression into ukraine. you've heard similar sentiments from other nato allies over the course of the last few hours. they are all trying to create a united front so that russia hears it clearly, that if they move forth with anything, they will face consequences, but there are questions for these nato allies today because of what president biden said yesterday, but nato secretary-general spoke with our colleague cade balduan earlier today and was asked by her did president biden's comments give rsht green light to go into ukraine? he said no, not at all. he noted that the united states has been trying to get nato allies lined up and really in agreement about what the consequences russia will face are going to be, but, of course, there are some divisioned within the cities of alice here.
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you watch the diplomat, secretary of state, plug clean why an tomorrow he's the -- he's meeting with the foreign minister of lavrov. >> with me to share their reporting is cnn's jeff zeleny and julieishfield davis of the "new york times" and the president trying to make up a mess of his own making yesterday in the face of this remarkable tweet from president selenski of the ukraine. we want to remind the great powers that there are no minor incursions and small nations, just there is a are no minor casualties and little grief from the loss of loved ones. i say this as president of a great power. the ukranian president essentially saying, mr. biden, take us seriously. there are no minor incursions. don't count here. >> right. i mean, you can see how the remarks that the president made yesterday really set off alarm bells both in ukraine and around -- and around ukraine because the whole situation here
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calls out for, you know, a big show of force and strength and unity on the part of the united states and its allies to push back against what putin is doing. he -- he has actively tried to sow division between the u.s. and its alice on this and others and hint of some sort of acknowledgement that there might be difficulty moving it with a united front if putin did something short of a huge ground invasion is causing concern for the ukranians. that's why you're seeing all of the cleanup right up to the president himself. of course, he said and his staff has said he was referring to the fact that nato allies are not on the same part when it comes to a ground invasion. there is kind of this scramble
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to make it clear that the united states is very much solid in its commitment in react to whatever putin does and that then the allies will be behind whatever that response is. >> so perhaps, jeff zeleny, it's, you know, goal accomplished and reset accomplished, if you will, that the secretary of state says it and the president says it and the secretary of state will meet with lavrov tomorrow. that's what made it so remark. a you were in the room during the president's press conference. of course, this was one of the major prep session top thanks came up. he knew he was going to be asked hem and let's listen. this is clearly just an unforced error. >> russia will be held accountable if it invades, and it depends on what it's does. it's one thing if it's a minor insurance and we have to wonder what they are able to do, this is going to be a disaster for russia. >> jeff, he just -- plainly he knows better there.
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may be a divide at nato but you do not talk about if publicly at this moment when 100,000 plus russian troops on the ukranian border. >> reporter: the president didn't misspeak but he misspoke in public. in fact, his words shined a bright light on that disagreement with the nato allies and with germany and others, particularly what the definition of an invasion would be. there are differences clearly as president biden was underscoring there with, yes, if there is a huge ground invasion, that's obvious, but if it's something less than that, there's a difference of opinion so the president certainly saying that out loud, we've been hearing for several days, you know, these have been quiet conversations in national security meetings and other things. what exactly constitutes an invague, but, again, a president's word carries the weight of -- unlike anything else so that's why he's going to such great lengths to clean this up today, but it didn't necessarily clone up the difference in opinion amongst
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nato allies and we'll have to see when it happens, what an eninvasion looks like and even though he's klein the comments, that does not necessarily mean that they have a bridge in divide against world leaders. that still exists. >> that gets to the discipline of president of the united states and there's a floob there's some truth out there that didn't need to be said out loud. his heart is in the right operation but you don't have to say things. this is a question and commentary about vice president joe biden and now president joe biden, and this is not an insignificant -- sometimes this is on insignificant issues and it passes. this is about war and peace. >> yeah. and, i mean, this is who our president is, as you mentioned. it's always been who he is, and sometimes telling the unvarnished truth is ingone
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grey-bruce with living us the most threat call execute skewed towards the up varnished treerkts and this one was haley receipt hiller record is policy and his hand plers, speaking forner two hours in a press conference there's likely to be gafz because we know who the president is. >> breaking news right now to bring you. the chairman of the january 6th select committee telling reporters moments ago the panel plans to invite former president's daughter, ivanka trump, to come meet with lawmakers and staff on that january 6th committee. cnn's paula reid is here with more. details. is that a big deal? >> a huge deal. significant move by the committee on trump's inner circle and we know that the panel has been gathering evidence about ivanka trump on january 6th, including they say,
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what they have is firsthand testimony that she spoke to her father at least twice on january 6th asking him to try to stop the violence. now what's interesting about the chairman's remarks it sounds like it's an invitation as opposed to a subpoena. we haven't seen it yet and it's unclear how she will respond to this request and appear in this investigation. this is the second time we've been reporting on the committee, reaching out for information relating to a member of the former president's family. earlier we smoke about how had the committee sought and obtained phone records related to the former president's son eric trump and right now the committee is waiting to receive hundreds of pages of white house documents after the supreme court cleared the way for them to receive those materials yesterday, declining a request from former president trump to block the committee from getting some of his white house records. >> appreciate the hustle on the breaking news. when we come back, more on what paula just teed up right here.
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received these hundreds of pages of document. they did get just four pages of documents that they were actually scheduled to get even before this ruling, but he expects to receive these documents soon. john, these could potentially help the committee really better understand what was going on inside the white house on january 6th. now among the materials is that they are expected to receive are logs, activity logs, call logs, schedules, correspondents, draft speeches and handwritten notes from former chief of staff mark meadows and even documents alleging vote fraud in the efforts to overturn the 2020 election. interestingly, thompson said they may post these documents publicly at some point, but he wouldn't give a timeline. the big question now going forward is how this decision will impact other challenges because, of course, trump isn't the only one challenging the committee's authority to gather evidence. other witnesses have tried to raise executive privilege concerns or challenge the legitimacy of the committee. today a federal judge said that yesterday's ruling does affirm
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the legitimacy of the committee and its work, but there are other different challenges that are still untested, including people who are questioning who you the committee was put together, how the republicans on the commit were assembled. right now it's up clear how yesterday's ruling will impact those challenges to the committee's work. >> appreciate the reporting and hustle there. let's get insight from a former federal prosecutor. elliott, the supreme court and we'll get into the legal arguments in a moment. to paula reid's point. so many other witnesses said trump is claiming executive privilege and i'm going to hide behind that until the courts route. i won't cooperate until they know what they say about the former president. 8-1. don't get that that often. 8-1 the court says turn over the documents. does that open the floodgates. does nip else now have a case to hang on to the documents? >> maybe mark meadowses has a conversation because there will be conversations that the former
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white house chief of staff that we as americans should agree, that that the white house chief of staff and the president should be able to communicate and there may be conversations that he had with his lawyers that also should be subject to some sort of privilege. but, no, allies of the president did not indefinitely hide behind this idea of executive privilege, that the court really threw water on last night. >> they threw water on it. it's interesting. again, you know, donald trump has three appointees to that supreme court. one of them, brett kavanaugh wrote a footnote. none objected saying, sorry, mr. trump, you need to turn over the documents. kavanaugh said we know he's a defender of executive power and he made clear down the road i might agree with another former president who says i want to protect my records, but he's made clear in this case no. >> and he's on to something. what's notable about this decision yesterday is what it doesn't say. it doesn't say that a former president can never exsert executive privilege. it just says here the
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circumstances were so extreme that the national or kifs are required to turn the documents over. congress has a very important interest. the american people have a very important interest, and they say that even if donald trump were the current president he still ought to be able to turn these documents over. look, there might be a circumstance at some point down the road when we look at this again where maybe a former president might have some basis for asserting executive br privilege. we'll see if the court takes this up again. needless to say, john, 8-1, a pretty resounding point and win for frankly transparency and congress' right to investigate. >> bring your prosecutor's mind into the context of what this means. we talked about this many times before. we know the committee has been pretty successful, phone records, other documents from other people involved, interviews with a lot of mid-level trump people about trying to piece together the timeline that have day. now they have handwritten notes
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from the chief of staff, presumably call logs to the president of the united states. who called when? what requests were made of him at what time? what did he say yes? what did he say in no? how important is it getting these 700 documents to the timeline? >> handwritten notes are incredibly valuable because in the log things that people write at the moment are given more credibility than other things. something that -- notes that i jot down right now are far more valuable than notes that i write a week from now trying to remember what you and i talked about here so those will be very, very valuable. call logs as well provide a trove to prosecutors and investigators who called whom when. you don't know the contents of the conversation to know which people were speaking to whom in the white house and outside. >> we have legal questions here. we have the historical timeline the committee is trying to build here. when you hear paula reid report, the chairman suggests some of these documents will be posted publicly. the former president believes he has a political future. that could be damning.
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>> some documents should be made available publicly but i don't know if the chairman is correct that every single document is going to be made public because there's all kinds of concerns. number one, national security. attorney/client privilege, identifying information of some people so not so fast. there are limits i think to transparentsy when it comes to government documents, but, yes, most of these i think will be in the public interest and hopefully we and the media will get to see them. >> grateful. grateful for the important perspective. we'll continue this conversation. when we come back, president, hour one of year two. reflects on his first-year agenda and is considering some big changes to his economic strategy, including break up his big ambitious domestic spending plan. to meetings. errands. now i'm running for me. i've always dreamed of seeing the world. but i'm not chasing my dream anymore. i made a financial plan to live it every day. ♪
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one year ago today this hour, joe biden assumed the presidency which means right now we're 27 minutes and change into year two, and the president promises some changes. he is prepared to break up and slim down a big social safety net plan he could not pass in year up, and he's prepared to accept, for now, a big defeat on voting rights and work instead on a much smaller but important plan to improve election integrity. the same political forces are driving both shifts. republicans are unified in their just say no strategy and the same two democrats, senate democrats, would not support
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their president either on the big spending plan or on changing senate rules to pass the flust yermt our report remembers back with us to discuss the challenges ahead as well as a look back at the year past. democrats resisted, jeff zeleny, for months breaking up the social safety net plan. listen to the president say i guess i have no choice. >> it's clear to me that -- that we're going to have to probably break it up. i'm not going to negotiate it myself as to what should and shouldn't be in it, but i think we can break the package up, get as much as we can now and come back and fight for the rest later. >> the question is now that he has made that concession publicly, how fast and what pieces? >> that is the open question here, and throughout the press conference the president was really blaming republicans for being so obstructionist, but he was also sending a very clear message to democrats, to check their expectations at the door in the second year of this presidency if they want to get anything accomplished.
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they have to trim back their expectations without question. the president gave a couple of hints. he said the child care tax credit, something he's campaigned on, the free community college which is already out of t.neither of those will make the bill there. simply is not the ability to pay for though, and he left open other possibilities, but, john, this is going to set off a whole new scramble between the house, inside the house, of course, between the progressives and moderates as well as the house and senate so it's unclear how the president will reconcile that particularly, because at very end of the news conference he said something that i thought was the most interesting window into his new approach here if he'll be able to do it. he said he spent too much time as a senator. he says the senate needs to focus on negotiations. how will the white house work on the negotiations if he's not in the middle? will it go better or not? that's a big question hang over the new second year. >> and the biggest question, julie davis, is what pieces can you get the necessary votes for, which pieces of the so-called build back better plan,
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reconciliation, the social safety net plan and also a big question is can you calm the democratic nerves, some of the anger and some of the frustration and the disappointment in the senator elizabeth warren says we need to get as much as we can across the finish line. a pragmatic approach from a leading progressive and bernie sanders is still white hot at some of his democratic colleagues. last night the voting rights legislation failed, the effort to change the senate rules failed. bernie sanders said after that it's not just this vote. these are people when i think have undermined the president of the united states. they have forced us to go through five months of discussions which got absolutely nowhere. i think they can expect to find a primary challenger. he's talking about two democratic senators, sinema and manchin. sanders is independent and the anger there is raw. >> absolutely raw. i mean, the immediate thing that the precipitated remarks was the defeating the voting rights bill, the blocking of it and then the failure of the democrats to change the rules to get it through because sinema
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and manchin did side with the republicans to prevent that from happening, but what he's talking about as well is the fact that the two of them were hold outs for many, many months on the they insist that had things be taken out and things be changed. otherwise they couldn't support it and then in the end senator manchin made it very clear at the end of last year that he still wouldn't be able to support it so there is a lot of frustration among progressives, that you know, they sat there at the table thinking that they were going to be able to make this work and now they have come away with nothing. i do think the president and many democrats on capitol hill are pretty focused on what they can salvage from that picture. one big piece that the president mentioned that i think does have a chance is this large climate change package that was part of the overall bill that's about $500 billion. there is a lot of enthusiasm for that among progressives. senator manchin has said that he's willing to do that and that he's interested in doing that. it includes a lot of tax
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credits, but he's also supportive of, but i don't think it will get republican support so the question will be will they use this reconciliation process to get this through over republican opposition, and then can they get enough progressives to accept that that's all that they are getting and will they have to tack anything else on in order to make sure that it gets through? >> a new set of fascinating questions as we watch how the president says he's going to trim his sails some but that raise additional things as we outlined it as well. new additional breaking news just coming into cnn. the georgia district attorney investigating former president donald trump has now asked for a special grand jury. this request from the fulton county district attorney is part of the inquiry into donald trump's january 2021 phone call with the georgia republican secretary of state brad raffensperger. the president of the united states at that time trying to get rafns pittsburgh's help in regersing the election results in georgia. jessica schneider with more on
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this legal request. >> a big development in this investigation out of atlanta, georgia, by the district attorney there. she's specifically asking the chief judge of the superior court there to let him impanel a special grand jury. this isn't a normal grand jury that issues indictment this. would be a grand jury that's allowed to issue subpoenas, that's also allowed to do other fact-finding as it went -- as it goes towards the criminal investigation, and what she says in this let, the fulton county district attorney fanny willis, she says that they have made multiple efforts to interview witnesses, gather evidence, but a significant number of those witnesses and perspective witnesses have refused to cooperate with the investigation absent a subpoena. she specifically references secretary of state brad raffensperger. he had made a comment several months ago that he would cooperate if he got a grand jury summons, but so far the district attorney out of atlanta doesn't have that special grand jury that has that power to issue the subpoena, so that's what she's
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asking for in this letter. if she's gets that power, this special grand jury could be impanelled for much longer than a normal grand jury. they would see this investigation through. they would issue subpoenas. he would conduct other fact-finding, so, john, this is really another indication of another step forward in this criminal investigation. it's the only criminal investigation that we're aware of that speaks to the former president's efforts, possible criminality as it relates to the 2020 election like you said, specifically related to his january, early january 2021 phone call to the secretary of state asking him to find 12,000 votes that would put frump over the top in that state. this that is been an ongoing investigation, john. this is as significant development because if they got this special development, it would mandate that witnesses come to them and talk about what they know here, including the secretary of state. john. >> jessica schneider, appreciate the hustle and the very important breaking news. let's get important perspective
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from elliott williams, former federal prosecutor and district attorney. here you have a prosecutor saying i need a special grand jury with special power. as a former prosecutor explain why and where you see this going. >> okay. so often prosecutors will try to get people to comply to avoid the legal system all together. you ask them to come in and work out the terms of their conversation. sometimes they don't. you've got to get a subpoena, and that seems to have happened here where she had pursued a number of witnesses, wasn't getting cooperation from them and said, fine, we will still get your testimony via a subpoena. what a special grand jury in georgia does, and this is quite important, number one, they dish usubpoenas and number two, compel documents so she can make people hand documents over and number three inspect and enter offices which is interesting as well, so this gives a lot more investigative heft. >> prosecutors put together every peeves evidence that they can. this prosecutor starts with the
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voice of the then president of the united states on the phone with georgia's secretary of state. >> right. >> listen. >> i just want to find is,780 votes which is one more than we have. >> elliott, that's corrupt. >> yes. >> but what makes it criminal? what do you need to do to make it criminal? >> here's the thing. it's corrupt but it may not be criminal because i need to find a certain number of votes. if he actually believes that these votes exist, right, and this might defy common sense because if he actually believes he won the she lens and believes that they are out there and that there were irregularities in the election, it's not criminal to go to a government official and ask them top suss out those irregularities and if he knows that he's lost and knows he's urging a public official to do
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that, that's not enough. corrupt, untoward and disgral for for someone holding high office but that in itself is not enough to charge them with a count. >> walk me through. you have the recordings. you have tons of public interviews where brad raffensperger talks about being on the other end of that call and not liking, it thinking the what he's asking. mark meadows arrange that had call, the former chief of staff. build your list with me and walk me through the list what have you'd be asking the special grand jury to say i need a subpoena for this witness, that record, that witness. >> everything speak together president's intent, number one, communications with mark meadows and communications with his attorneys and communications with his staff. evidence or information about the laws of georgia. how much did he know about how election law operated in gentleman? number few, statements he slight mailed privately that indicated his knowledge of having actually lost the election which, look, if he's got a bunch of toadies
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around him telling him, mr. president, you won, you won, you won based on some reasonable belief, it would be very hard to charge him with a crime but everything here goes to donald trump's intent, the criminal intent to get someone else to break the law, and, you know, we're not there right now. prosecutors are not there right now. however, you know, they could potentially get there and build it. >> we know the january 6th committee is trying to tread some of this same ground. they are not just looking at day of the insurrection. they are looking that this was part of a conspiracy that started on election day when he lost including these efforts whether it's arizona, pennsylvania and in this case georgia to overturn the election. are there any jurisdictional conflicts there, any issues you see arising or can the two investigations co-exist at the same time peacefully? >> that happens all the time that investigations co-exist peacefully n.general states tend
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to dover to the federal government. again, these are two different bodies. you're talking about not even a prosecutor's office in washington. it is congress investigating january 6th specifically and the many things that stemmed and flowed from that. this here is a far more targeted and far narrower investigation into the events largely surrounding that one january 2nd phone call, but georgia specifically so, no, i don't see any potential conflicts. a lot of the evidence as you touched on, john, will be the same. the january 6th commission may actually have south some of these same records and conversations already. >> so, again, keep your prosecutor hat on. i don't need to wait for it. i can write it myself. this is another witch hunt, donald trump will say, by another local democrat trying to make a name for his or herself. witch hunt, witch hunt, witch hunt, especially if you're a county prosecutor in fulton county, georgia. how do you block out loud, very loud politics in a state where trump has a lot of supporters
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and do your job? >> here's the thing. in the united states we elect prosecutors all the time nationwide. the idea that a prosecutor had run in a partisan election doesn't forever taint them from ever investigating are someone of another political party and in fact once elected prosecutors take an oath to respect the constitution and not a political party. two things can be true, john. number one, a prosecutor can be a republican or a democrat investigating someone of another party, but also that person could have broken the law, and the mere fact that -- that this prosecutor is of another political party doesn't irreparably taint the investigation. now, of course, she ought to exercise caution and not turn this into an attempt to find everything that donald trump has done wrong, and there's many different areas. this is separate from new york, separate from arizona, separate from the january 6th committee and very important that each of these different prosecutors don't blur this haul into one donald trump is a bad guy
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umbrella. >> elliott williams, grateful for the very important insights. let's bring back our great reporters as well. lucky on a day of breaking news to have two veteran trump watchers and tia, this is your wheelhouse. fulton county happens to be georgia. explain to us the importance of this new investigation. >> us a know, the ajc, my colleague, has been reporting on this and she even floated a couple of months ago after talking to the district attorney willies that she was something she was considering doing. it's all about continuity, you know. a special grand jury can be impanelled for longer than a regular grand jury, and they can be razor focused on this one issue alone as opposed to a regular grand jury that happens to hear about all different types of cases through the covers their term, and so this is something that we knew
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district attorney willis has been thinking about because she's been very me mod call in this investigation. of course, it's not your typical criminal investigation, and she's wanting to get it right. she is, as we mentioned, working, you know, simultaneously with all these other pending investigations, but this one is unique, and it's clear with the letter today that she's ready to move it to the next step. >> and jeff zeleny e, if you're looking at this from the perspective of donald trump and his legal team, the new york attorney general in a civil case demanding testimony from donald trump, ivanka trump and donald trump jr. about what she says she has evidence of fraud by the trump organization, overinflalting and then deflating the valve its assets. the january 6th committee getting access to 700 pages and white house records including handwritten records from the chief of staff about january 6th and the days before it and now the fulton county prosecutor saying i need special powers to investigate potential criminal behavior in donald trump's
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effort to pressure georgia republicans to somehow help him steal the election. wow. >> it's a lot and things are adding up and compiling every day. almost every hour there's a new development but keep in mind these are very separate investigations as elliott was saying. and this georgia probe is specifically interesting because, a, there's the audio tape that we've heard again and again from the phone call by the former president and looking into georgia, but the question i have, john, is how much is this going to bleed into present day politics because georgia is at the absolute center of the battle for control of the senate, a very important governor's race and actually ground zero of where the former president is hoping to launch his new political act via supporters of his, so this is a very inflammatory potential investigation. the question is how long can this go senator will it go on until november? if approved will this go on beyond 2024? it's important to keep them all separate because they are very separate and important and distinct investigations. >> so you make an important
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point. julie davis, brad raffensperger who has been public about he counted the votes and donald trump lost, went back and counted the votes and donald trump lost. did it a third time and donald trump lost and donald trump tried to get involved in cheating, to cook the books for me. donald trump is supporting a primary challenge to brad province pittsburgher because he wants a trump ally in place in gentleman to count the votes, to be there the next time to take the phone call next time and get a different answer. >> right. absolutely. jeff is right. that is one of the reasons that this particular investigation, although it's only a piece of all of the other investigations that are going on is going to be particularly fascinating to watch unfold because it's not happening in a vacuum. there are a lot of political crosses here. it's interesting that raffensperger certainly invited this subpoena or -- or it to be compelled to -- to cooperate in
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this investigation rather than voluntarily going in and talking to her because he is in a fight for his political life. he does have a primary challenge backed by the former president, and so this is a way for them to get at him and get at what all he knows without him having to look like he's somehow going in and, you know, dishing on what president trump said. now, we already know, as jeff mentioned, quite a bit because we have the audio recording that have known call about what went on, but as is the case with the january 6th committee, as is the case with some of these other investigations that we've seen begin, there is a lot more back story than the little slices that we've gotten to learn, and i think what we're going to find from this georgia investigation is that we're going to find out a lot more of that back story and, you know, see where it leads for the former president and for raffensperger and the wider effort to figure out what went on and what caused the
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storming of the capitol on the 6th. >> such a critical point. any of these investigations, the more we have transparency, new documents and new information hand new facts, absolutely critical. appreciate everybody's help with this breaking news. up next, the president's reflections on year one and his lessons for year two. can he improve his standing, and can he help his party avoid a mid-term disaster? olay body wash hydrates to improve skin 3x better, from dry and dull to firm and radiant. with olay body, i feel fearless in my skin. ♪ three times the electorlytes and half the sugar. ♪ pedialyte powder packs. feel better fast.
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president biden promises a few important second-year changes. one is to scale back his legislative wish list. two is to travel out in the country more. throw is to ask questions about what republicans stand for and why they remain so afraid of donald trump. >> did you ever think that one man out of office could intimidate an entire party where they are unwilling to take any vote contrary to what he thinks should be taken for fear of being defeated in a primary? >> the right lessons for democrats in this mid-term election year. let's have commentators hillary rosen and paul begala. hillary, to you first. if you're a democrat running in a tough race or are advising a democrat to run in a tough race here, did you hear yesterday from the president what you want to hear, or does that make you
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nervous? >> well, you heard it, but it was buried between a lot of other stuff. you know, in a two-hour news conference so much gets lost. i think that where the white house needs to be is actually where they are right now. he's got to stop being the master of the senate, right? he's got to stop -- it's not presidential to be going up and, you know, high-tailing it up to the hill every day begging theme do things. let the staff run the government. they are doing a pretty good job of that, and he needs to key into where people are. he needs to -- he needs to deal with parental exhaustion from the pandemic. there are fears about the economy. their need for security. when he says i'm going out into the country, that's what he's talking about, and i think if he does some that have, he'll be welcomed by a lot of those members and finally the second piece it's not really a trump comparison. it's more a gop comparison. what are they for? we know what democrats are for. child care, taxing rich peel and
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corporations, maintaining health care, reducing student debt. those are real popular. start creating more contrasts between what the republicans are against and what democrats are for. >> and so paul, to that point. i've known you for a long time. you're a democrat who likes to draw sharp contrasts. one of the president's answers though was not about a contrast with the republican. it was about a contrast with a -- with an independent, but he plays with the democrats. listen. >> you guys have been trying to convince me that i am bernie sanders. i'm not. i like him, but i'm not bernie sanders. i'm not a socialist. i'm a mainstream democrat and i have been. >> on the one hand get that. the president is trying to get back to define me in the middle of the electorate and bernie sanders and a tough year for joe biden hass been a loyal foot soldiers compromising his own messages to help the president get things done.
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>> he said i'm not a socialist and named bernie. who would have thought going into this presidency that it would be moderates, fellow moderates like joe manchin and kirsten sinema who would do so much damage and the progress you ever he defeated for the nomination elizabeth warren and bernie sanders would be such great allies. i don't grom that side of the party, terrific. he should have left bernie's name out of it. he has to get back to the sense that he's middle class joe and middle america joe. it's not so much left/right but it was up/down. music to my years. the white house should take the clip of what hilary said before me and make that the playbook for the next year, but it's that up-down kind of economic populism where biden is so strong and that's where he needs to be. >> we have a lot of conversations in washington about process and internal party friction because that's what we do. covid is the dominating issue in the country, and if you look at right tracks wrong track. the right track has barely budged in the year of the biden presidency and the wrong track
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has gone up six points. that's because of covid exhalves, whether it's about schools, economics or health. what can the president do about that? >> first, he can talk about it, right? i think he didn't spend mere nearly enough time yesterday, and i think, that you know, they understand that. when you're answering press questions you're responding. you're not being proactive. he's got to really talk about it, understand that people are done with this and find ways to help people accept that we are going to be living with this pandemic for a long time, and so how you do that, how you navigate your life, how you navigate your families, how you work differently. all of those things are things that people actually want to hear about. they want some sense of comfortability. >> i wish we had more time. we do not because of breaking news and i want to continue this conversation with boast you have as we go forward. thanks for your time today on "inside politics." ana cabrera picks up our coverage on the other side of the break. have a good afternoon.
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