tv CNN Newsroom With Fredricka Whitfield CNN January 30, 2022 12:00pm-1:00pm PST
legislation that says they're looking to try to create an unarmed civilian force that goes around and stops people for very minor traffic violations. the police unions and some police officers are saying, whoa, wait a minute. that could really put a lot of people in danger. so we explore that as well. >> look forward to that and so much more. sara sidner, thank you so much. you can watch her new cnn special report "traffic stop: dangerous encounters" tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. hello again. thank you for joining me. i'm fredricka whitfield. u.s. officials are watching a new development along the ukraine border with russia. two senior defense officials tell cnn there are indications russia has now positioned blood supplies in the area. the u.s., meantime, placed more than 8,000 troops on heightened alert last week to prepare to deploy to nato allies in eastern
europe. republican senator rob portman said today the u.s. is firm in its commitment to support ukraine. and other lawmakers say a bipartisan deal on russia's sanctions is also about to get through congress. >> president zelensky, obviously, is trying to maintain his economic growth in his country which is pretty strong right now. and keep the country from panicking while having them be prepared. but we're together. that's what's important. >> there are some sanctions that really could take place up front because of what russia has already done. cyberattacks on ukraine. false-flag operations, the efforts to undermine the ukrainian government internally. >> imminent means it could happen really honestly at any time. now when i say "it," it depends what vladimir putin might want to do. as secretary austin said on friday, he has a lot of options, a lot of capability available to him. he can do something on a small scale. he could do something on a fairly large scale, and he continues to add troops to that
border with ukraine. >> the u.s. has also called a meeting of the united nations security council tomorrow to work on a diplomatic solution. the u.s. ambassador stressing they want real diplomacy to happen. >> we're going to go in the room prepared to listen to them, but we're not going to be distracted by their propaganda. and we're going to be prepared to respond to any disinformation that they attempt to spread during this meeting. >> cnn's sam kiley is in ukraine and reports both sides are jockeying for position ahead of the u.n. meeting. >> reporter: fred, both the russian and ukrainian foreign ministers are restating their now well-established positions ahead of meetings at the united nations. the russians are saying that with the continued deployment of nato troops in eastern europe, the possible increase in troop numbers being offered by the, nighted kingdom and united
states, all a provocation, indeed a threat to russia. simultaneously with that, ukrainian foreign ministry saying that if the russians are serious about any kind of diplomacy then they need to move back from their positions which look threatening on ukraine's eastern borders but also in belarus to the north just two or three hours north of here. kyiv, the capital of ukraine, fred. so in that context, meetings at the u.n. are unlikely to produce anything more than potentially an agreement to keep disagreeing, but keep it verbal. the reason for this is that from the ukrainian perspective, that would be a positive step. from the american perspective, they continue to warn that by the end of february when the ground is expected to be frozen, that will be the prime time for a potential russian invasion, fred. >> all right, sam kiley, thanks so much, in ukraine. let's bring in fareed zakaria. good too to see you. let's start with this meeting and the promise of the meeting
at the united nations tomorrow. can some real concrete diplomatic progress come from it? >> it could theoretically in the sense that the two sides have positions that are not unbridgeable. there are a few things the russians are asking for that the united states and nato will not offer, you know, a blanket guarantee that ukraine will never be a member of nato. that's not going to happen. but there's a lot of other stuff with regard to troop deployments, nuclear weapons, things like that, where you could imagine compromises. the problem is there's very little for us on either side. there's a great deal of distrust, in fact, and one way of keeping the alliance together is the united states has staked out a very strong position trying to make sure that there is no division within the alliance. so in negotiating terms, it will take -- it will take real skill
but there are elements of the negotiated path. >> the whole issue of nato, you know, where russia is coming from, isn't that a red herring. doesn't putin know that he is not going to be able to receive a commitment, whether it be from nato allies or the u.s. on whether ukraine would become a member or not? >> well, it's a great question, fred, because the issue is, is he making the ask because he wants, you know, a lot of other concessions? he knows he's not going to get that one. but he's certainly gotten nch's attention so he'll get some movement on other things. or is that just so core to him and so core to his demands that if there's no move omt that, this is all really just a setup for a russian military intervention. >> besides threatening ukraine by being on the border, russia with 1 00,000-plus troops, of
course, cyberattacks are already taking place in country in ukraine. so, you know, putin is not only just flexing muscle, but also intimidating, undermining the country. he's constantly looking to get the upper hand. does he have it? >> i think he has -- the odds, tactically, he has a lot of things going for him. he has found a time when you have a new weaker leadership in germany. the weak link in the atlantic alliance on this issue. he recognizes that it's going to be very hard for the west to militarily defeat him. ukraine is going through some tough times. and so, yeah, he has real weaknesses. the main one being ukraine now is very anti-russian because of all the things he's doing. i would suspect, fred, that what we should look for here is not a full-scale invasion. the most likely snare joe
something like this. in that part of eastern ukraine where there are russian speakers, the russian government has issued something like 600 to 800,000 russian passports. so those people are now considered by moscow, by putin, to be russian citizens. under the guise of protecting them, you could imagine some limited russian military action that further weakens ukraine, further forces the ukrainian military to act. that seems a much more realistic military scenario. and even that he may not do, but i think that's the nature of the military scenario and that's why you're try to talk about the other nonmilitary ways, but the goal is the same. to make ukraine weak and to make it eventually beg for peace from moscow. >> all right. let's change subjects a little bit here. you have a special on china and president xi on cnn tonight. and china has been flying war
planes into taiwan's security zone and it continues to talk about reunite with taiwan. is this president xi testing president biden while he, you know, the u.s. is distracted by russia? >> i think he's always testing biden on this issue. for the chinese, this is absolutely core to their sense of national security. they have made a comparison to ukraine and russia. but this is even more so for them because they -- remember, nobody -- very few countries in the world even recognize taiwan as a country. the united states doesn't. so for beijing, this is a renegade province that has to be brought back into the fold. i don't think they want war just yet. i don't think that that is the plan, but i think that there is -- they are constantly testing to make sure that chinese war planes can fly as close as they want to.
what they're trying to do is say this is our total sphere of influence and you, the united states, can't do anything about it. the problem they have is the same one that putin has with ukraine, which is the locals don't agree. the taiwanese are becoming more and more fiercely independent. somewhat anti-chinese. just as the ukrainians have become fiercely independent and anti-russian. and so, you know, the problem for both of these two autocracies is not actually the united states. it's the populations of those neighboring places that don't happen to like living under the shadow of this big brother very much. >> and then there's north korea i want to ask you about. it fired another missile this weekend. its longest range test since 2017. kim jong-un is also appearing to be close to scrapping his self-imposed long-range moratorium. is he also testing the united
states? >> you know, it's almost impossible to really read the mind of kim jong-un. it's possible. but a lot of what they do with their nuclear weapons is -- or their missiles or military hardware is try to get attention. try to get attention so that they get some kind of deal, some kind of, you know, bribes in return for stopping doing this kind of thing. i have seen even speculation among the intelligence community that, look, they run a profitable black market in military hardware. sometimes every now and then you have to advertise your stuff. you have to let people know what you have and the fact that it works. so it may be -- it may be as simple as that. it may be, you know, marketing and advertising. but there's no question that north korea's always wanted you to remember that they have -- >> that they're around. >> they now have a large arsenal. they want attention, too.
>> right. fareed zakaria, thank you so much. of course, we'll be giving you a lot of attention tonight. we'll be watching your special. join fareed for an in-depth look at china's leader xi jinping. china's iron fist, xi jinping and the stakes for america. 2 it begins at 10:00 p.m. eastern time. the nor'easter storm that slammed into the northeast has passed leaving record snowfalls in many areas but dangerously cold temperatures remain. we'll have the latest forecast, next. workrks on that too, and lasts 12 hours. 12 hours?! who studies that l long? mucinex dm relieves wet and dry cocoughs. have you checked singlecare? i think you can get a cheaper price on this. cheaper meds with singlecare. stop! i should spread the word. but how? i wanna be remembered for the savings, with singlecare. you walk into the pharmacy, with great insurance. but then, (screams)
i've always been running. to meetings. errands. now i'm running for me. i've always dreamed of seeing the world. but i'm not chasing my dream anymore. i made a financial plan to live it every day. ♪ at northwestern mutual, our version of financial planning helps you live your dreams today. find a northwestern mutual advisor at nm.com what happens when we welcome change? we can make emergency medicine possible at 40,000 feet. instead of burning our past for power, we can harness the energy of the tiny electron. we can create new ways to connect.
rethinking how we communicate to be more inclusive than ever. with app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions, vmware helps companies navigate change. faster. vmware. welcome change. what can i du with less asthma? with dupixent i can du more... yardwork... teamwork... long walks.... that's how you du more, with dupixent, which helps prevent asthma attacks. dupixent is not for sudden breathing problems. it's an add-on-treatment for specific types of moderate-to-severe asthma that can improve lung function for better breathing in as little as two weeks. and can reduce, or even eliminate, oral steroids. and here's something important. dupixent can cause serious allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis. get help right away if you have rash, shortness of breath, chest pain,
tingling or numbness in your limbs. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection, and don't change or stop your asthma treatments, including steroids, without talking to your doctor. are you ready to du more with less asthma? just ask your asthma specialist about dupixent. >> vo: my car is my after-work decompression zone. ♪ music ♪ >> vo: so when my windshield broke... i found the experts at safelite autoglass. they have exclusive technology and service i can trust. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ thousands in the northeast remain without power after this weekend's powerful bomb cyclone. it broke snowfall records in several cities. you can see the view from space of the storm's aftermath showing extensive snow cover from north carolina to maine. while the worst of the snow has passed the danger, it's not over yet. strong winds mixing with cold
temperatures are creating windchills of 10 to 20 degrees below zero in some areas, including very chilly in florida where temperatures dropped so low the national weather service in miami warned about falling iguanas. take a look at those pictures right there. once the temperature drops below 45, the reptile goes into this dormant state and they are not dead. just temporarily stunned until they are able to warm up. unfortunately that means they can fall from trees and that's exactly what happens all the time. meteorologist tom sader joining me. that is so creepy, but that's what happens. >> it is. >> iguanas falling from the skies. >> yep. and some of them are pretty good in size, too. it's going to happen again tonight. another iguana alert. look at the numbers across the florida peninsula. in miami, they had their coldest morning in ten years.
upper 30s. we'll see what happens, how this affects the citrus industry as well. more watches and warnings in place there. let's go to our storm. the historic. no doubt about it. one for the record books. incredible icing and flooding. nantucket. coastal surge with astronomical high tide. we've known about it for five days but couldn't tell you who was going to get a foot of snow or one or two or three until the low formed on friday morning. then we knew the track. would it hug the coast or stay out to sea? it took the sweet spot. what gives the heaviest amount of snow and is in the record books across new england. look at all the states that had nearly two feet all the way up to 30 inches there. massachusetts. in fact, nine states had over a foot of snowfall. and with that, hurricane winds. this is why we have a lot of power outages. hats off to the crews because they've restored power to tens of thousands. but this is well over hurricane strength. 74 miles per hour.
now, again, for the record books. boston tied. the greatest amount of snow in a 24-hour period. the mold models were really gooh predictions. this is one you don't want to break. tying the record from 2003. and two-day total, it goes in place at number six on the top ten list. but the temperatures remain cold. this is the problem with those without power right now. >> yeah, oh, big time. it's very dangerous. >> yeah. potentially life threatening. tom sater, thank you. coming up, as tensions continue over ukraine, world leaders are warning an invasion could be imminent. is the biden administration doing everything it can to prevent a conflict? we'll discuss with democratic congressman rubin gaellego right after this. bedroom slslash music studio. the daybed slash dog bed. the living room slash yoga shanti slash regional office slash classroom.
and this is the basement slash panic room. maybe what your family needs is a vacation home slash vacation home. find yours on the vrbo app. ♪ with unitedhealthcare medicare advantage plans, there's so much to take advantage of. like $0 copays on virtual visits... - wow! - uh-huh. ...$0 copays on primary care visits... ...and lab tests. - wow. - uh-huh. plus, $0 copays on tier 1 & tier 2 prescription drugs. - wow. - uh-huh.
tensions continue to grow today as u.s. officials believe russia is sending supplies, including blood, to the ukraine border. numerous world leaders are now warning an invasion could be imminent. >> we think it's highly likely that he is looking to invade ukraine. that is why we're doing what we can through deterrence and diplomacy to urge him to desist. >> with me now, ruben gallego of arizona. he led a bipartisan delegation to ukraine late last year. we talked about that, congressman. welcome back. so i wonder, in your view, do you believe the biden administration is doing everything it can to prevent a conflict and then, you know, is it really up to the u.s. to help prevent this conflict? >> well, i do believe we're
finally caught up to where we need to be to deter russia. there's two ways of doing that. number one, arming ukraine itself so they could resist russia and it's going to be hard to stop russia, but we need ukraine to create such cost to them that it actually, you know, makes russia calculate where they want to take this chance. number two, we've unified the western -- our western allies into understanding there needs to be some harsh economic costs, should russia invade. so in those two areas, we're finally aligned. and now it's up to really putin to decide if it's really worth the risk of a really long drawn-out war that's going to really impact the economy of russia. our job to organize this. we have a moral authority in the world. especially in our place in europe. we should be there. we should be backing democracies
versus autocracies. and we know that massive land wars in europe never end well for the united states. in one way or the other. it destabilizes the region and will cause massive economic problems to us as well as potentially other problems. so we need to show that we are strong and that we stand with democracies, especially against auto autocracies. >> when there are reports that russia is bringing blood supplies to the periphery of where troops are, that doesn't say backing down. or does that say that this is putin's psychological warfare. just trying to offer inferences that an invasion is imminent and there would be bloodshed. >> i think the assumption we have to make when dealing with russia is the worst case scenario. and russia likes to, you know, likes to make avenues for diplomacy more favorable to them by tlhreatening violence, knowig the west has an aversion to
avoiding conflict. but at this point, the best thing we can do is make ukraine itself so damaging and so difficult to predict what the outcome is that someone like putin does not want to engage. putin can't stand a long war in ukraine and can't stand thousands of, you know, men and women coming back, russian forces coming back to ukraine in coffins. you still have to answer to your people. so the more we arm ukrainian people, the military and the more that we actually get together in the west with sanctions, the less likely he is to do this. >> so you were part of that delegation in december. i spoke with another member of congress earlier today who just got back as part of another u.s. delegation over the past week. how do you gauge progress besides, you know, allies
working stronger together? that was one of the examples you just gave as to how you think efforts are working. but how do you gauge whether there is any influence that the u.s. is making on this build-up along the ukraine border? >> well, look, i think the build up is going to happen no matter what we do. but we need to continue making sure, again, that ukraine is in a position to defend itself. and there is night and day since my visit in late december. ukraine had dispersed a lot of the lethal aid we've given in terms of javelins. we've had some stinger missiles that have -- some, but hundreds of stinger missiles that arrived from our latvian partners. we now have conneccurrent agreet on a package that's going to be introduced on the senate side and hopefully passed on the house side, bipartisan. there's been a lot of movement in that short time to really give ukraine opportunity to resist this russian incursion.
we can't predict what russia is going to do. we can only make them calculate and hopefully calculate correctly that it's a big risk to invade ukraine. >> uh-huh. all right, congressman ruben gallego, thanks for joining us. straight ahead, former president donald trump said he would consider pardoning those charged in connection with the deadly capitol siege if he were to run again and win. the white house. we'll talk about that, next. since suzie's got goals, she'll want a plan to reach them. so she'll get some help from fidelity, and she'll feel so good about her plan, she can focus on l living it. that's the planning effect, from f fidelity.
my name is douglas. i'm a writer/director and i'm still working. in the kind of work that i do, you are surrounded by people who are all younger than you. i had to get help somewhere along the line to stay competitive. i discovered prevagen. i started taking it and after a period of time, my memory improved. it was a game-changer for me. prevagen. healthier brain. better life.
to be a thriver with metastatic breast cancer means asking for what we want. and need. and we need more time. so, we want kisqali. women are living longer than ever before with kisqali when taken with an aromatase inhibitor or fulvestrant in postmenopausal women with hr+, her2- metastatic breast cancer. kisqali is a pill that's significantly more effective at delaying disease progression versus an aromatase inhibitor or fulvestrant alone. kisqali can cause lung problems, or an abnormal heartbeat, which can lead to death. it can cause serious skin reactions, liver problems, and low white blood cell counts that may result in severe infections. tell your doctor right away if you have new or worsening symptoms, including breathing problems, cough, chest pain, a change in your heartbeat, dizziness, yellowing of the skin or eyes, dark urine,
tiredness, loss of appetite, abdomen pain, bleeding, bruising, fever, chills or other symptoms of an infection, a severe or worsening rash, are or plan to become pregnant, or breastfeeding. avoid grapefruit during treatment. ask your doctor about living longer with kisqali. some home fragrances can be... overwhelming. air wick fresh new day fills your space with fragrance that's always fresh, never overpowering. air wick. connect to nature.
former president trump returned to the campaign trail, so to speak, in texas last night. it seemed like it. and during this rally, trump said if he decides to run and is re-elected to a new term as president, he would consider pardoning those prosecuted for attacking the u.s. capitol on january 6th. >> if i run and if i win, we will treat those people from january 6th fairly. we will treat them fairly. and if it requires pardons, we will give them pardons because they are being treated so unfairly. >> trump also urged his supporters to hold massive protests in cities like new york, atlanta and washington, d.c., if prosecutors investigating him in those cities bring charges against him.
charlie dent is a former republican congressman from pennsylvania and a cnn political commentator. good to see you. and david swerdlick is a cnn political commentator and staff editor for "the new york times" opinion. good to see you as well. so perhaps equally dangerous to trump's words of pardoning rioters is either any silence or tepid response coming from republicans. these republicans did speak on the matter today. here are senator susan collins, governor sununu and lindsey graham. >> i do not think that the president should have -- president trump should have made that pledge to do pardons. we should let the judicial process proceed. >> look, the folks that were part of the riots, the assault on the u.s. capitol, have to be held accountable. there's a rule of law. i don't care whether you were part of the burning cities in antifa in 2020, storming the capitol in 2021, everybody needs to be held fairly accountable
across. that's part of leadership. >> they shouldn't be pardoned? >> of course not. oh, my goodness, no. >> i think it's inappropriate. i don't want to reinforce that defiling the capitol was okay. i don't want to do anything that would make this more likely in the future. i want to deter people who did what they did on january the 6th and those who did it i hope they go to jail and get the book thrown at them because they deserve it. >> so charlie, will that condemnation resonate? will it kind of upstage what trump has said? >> well, i certainly hope it does. i can't imagine a more reckless statement by the former president. wanting to pardon people who assaulted police officers, who desecrated and destroyed federal property. who attempted to, you know, prevent the peaceful transfer of power and prevent congress from engaging in its official duties. >> do you want to hear more outrage like that from more republicans? >> oh, absolutely.
now the problem has become if you are a republican running for office, this could become a maga litmus test issue and you really don't want to be talking about this. you are talking about the past. this horrible day. you'd rather be talking about the future and the democrats and what they've been doing or not doing. that's really where you want to be. donald trump is making life much harder for republicans in the midterm and certainly if he decides to run for president. i can't think of anything just -- a crazier thing that donald trump could have said yesterday. more destructive to the interest of republican candidates. >> david, you got more than 761 people who have been charged in the january 6th insurrection. a bipartisan house committee now has its hands on documents and eyewitness accounts of what happened before, during and after the riot. do trump's words, his pledge, have any potential influence on where these cases go or perhaps even the congressional probe goes? >> hello, fred, and hello congressman. no, they shouldn't have any bearing on that. and let's remember that even if
former president trump becomes president again, that would be three years from now. that is plenty of time for prosecutors in these many hundreds of cases to investigate, charge and prosecute. that's plenty of time for congress -- well, not necessarily as much time for the democrats in the house to do their work on the january 6th committee. but people should proceed as they are already proceeding with these cases and not be influenced in any way by what the former president said. i'll just note here that although many people on the political right sort of reject this idea that this was a seditionist uprising or they say that democrats have made too much of this, there are far more people on the right that will concede that this was a riot. even tucker carlson says it was a riot. so even though people are innocent until proven guilty, even though people get their day in court, anyone who is being charged with riotous activities like breaking into the capitol,
like trespassing should go through the process. and if they're punished, then they are punished. >> charlie, no one tells trump what to do, right? we've all learned that. but to stop this kind of madness, you also have to get to the bottom of who is financing these rallies, planning them logistically. is this donor money or campaign dollars at work? >> i suspect they are campaign dollars at work and that's why donald trump will threaten to run in 2024 so he can continue to raise money to hold rallies and to try to influence republican politics in any way he can. so whether or not he runs, i don't know. but i know one thing for sure. he's going to threaten in run right up to the filing deadlines. and whether he decides to run or not, again, is a mystery, but i'm sure this money that he's raising piles of money. and i'm sure it's being used for all this type of activity. >> and david, i mean, if trump
doesn't run, he has had his hand in picking a number of potential candidates for house and senate seats. so the influence is there whether he decides to run or not. i mean, he -- obviously that will directly influence who will be in support of his kind of rhetoric that he continues to spout or not publicly. >> right. like congressman dent, i don't have a prediction on whether former president trump will officially run for president again. what i do think, though, is that part of the reason he is doing these rallies like the one last night, like the couple that he's done more recently is that he wants to freeze the rest of that republican field. and as long as there's that threat out there that he will run and that it looks like he's on the cusp of running, it will keep rivals like a lot of people talk about governor desantis in a limbo status where they can't
go out and fundraise or go out and set a different course for the republican party overall than the one president trump is setting. and president trump is setting this course where it's all about him, right? anything that prosecutors do to these january 6th rioters, anything that prosecutors do to me is the same thing. it's not a crime against me, says former president trump, or wants his supporters to think. it's a crime against you. and that was his appeal in 2016. and in 2020. and if he runs in 2024, i think that will be his appeal again. >> thank you david swerdlick, charlie dent. thank you very much, gentlemen. appreciate it. all right, still to come, as the coronavirus pandemic continues, how are health care workers coping with the stress, exhaustion and the demands of dealing with this pandemic? we'll talk to a professor of emergency medicine, next. with the new ww personalpoints program, you take an assessment, enter your goals, the foods you love and what fits into your lifestyle.
you don't have to eat diet food. i can enjoy the things that i really love like wine... cheese. you can add points for eating vegetables or being active. i lost 26 lbs and i feel incredible. the all new ww personalpoints program. don't pay until spring. join today at ww.com offer ends january 30th. looking to get back in your type 2 diabetes zone? once-weekly ozempic® can help. ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! ♪ ♪ oh, oh, oh ♪ ozempic® is proven to lower a1c.
most people who took ozempic® reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. and you may lose weight. adults lost on average up to 12 pounds. in adults also with known heart disease, ozempic® lowers the risk of major cardiovascular events such as heart attack, stroke, or death. ozempic® helped me get back in my type 2 diabetes zone. ozempic® isn't for people with type 1 diabetes. don't share needles or pens, or reuse needles. don't take ozempic® if you or your family ever had medullary thyroid cancer, or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if allergic to it. stop ozempic® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction. serious side effects may include pancreatitis. tell your provider about vision problems or changes. taking ozempic® with a sulfonylurea or insulin may increase low blood sugar risk. side effects like nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea may lead to dehydration, which may worsen kidney problems. looking to get back in your type 2 diabetes zone? ask your health care provider today about once-weekly ozempic®. ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! ♪
you may pay as little as $25 for a 3-month prescription. >> vo: my car is my after-work decompression zone. ♪ music ♪ >> vo: so when my windshield broke... i found the experts at safelite autoglass. they have exclusive technology and service i can trust. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ ever wonder what everyone's doing on their phones? they're banking, with bank of america. his girlfriend just caught the bouquet, so he's checking in on that ring fund. oh, that photographer? he's looking for something a little more zen, so he's thinking, “i'll open a yoga studio.” and as for the father of the bride? he's checking to see if he's on track to do this all over again...and again. digital tools so impressive, you just can't stop banking. what would you like the power to do?
all right. as the coronavirus pandemic continues to go on, health care workers are increasingly feeling the tug of war between taking care of patients and taking care of themselves. my next guest recently wrote a piece for the british medical journal saying, quote if health care workers, the single worst stressor is the feeling of being lost in the increasingly vast gap between the care that they want to deliver to their patients and what they can actually provide. what then are we doing but asking for health care workers to do the impossible and abandoning them to the certainty of failure? i want to bring in now dr. esther chu, a professor of
emergency medicine for the oregon health and science university. joining me now, dr. chu, so good to see you. >> hi, fredricka. good to be with you. >> so reading this really made me very sad actually because it just really underscored the stresses that many of you on the front lines are feeling. you want to do the best, you know, by your patients but you're also challenged with resources that perhaps are not readily available. you don't want your patients to die. and i know medical school probably prepared you for, you know, death and patients not doing well, but this has been voluminous. and so many of you are trying to figure out how do i cope? how have you been doing? >> well, thank you for asking. i mean, it's hard to really express what it's like now entering the third year of this pandemic. but it's -- i don't think
there's words that really describe, you know, how we're feeling that i think words like burnout or moral injury have just felt old and tired and inadequate for the moment. what's happening right now is we're in the middle of a huge surge. we have hospitalization rates that are similar to february of last year. we have death rates that surpass previous surges. we're in the hospital where our acute care beds are full, icu beds are full and then we walk out of the hospital and we're told it's so great that omicron is mild. there's been a big push in the media to say that it's time to relax and loosen up many of our safety measures. and that disconnect is so hard to understand and to feel empathy with because, you know, being in the hospital is so difficult. and this is a problem, i'm in a large care center this is a problem at smaller hospitals. basically every region of the united states during this surge has experienced critical staffing shortages at some point
anywhere between 15% to 30%. and i think it feels, of course, exhausting, which is something beyond exhausting. >> oh, my goodness. you also mentioned prioritizing mental health, which is yet another sector of health care that was understaffed before the pandemic. so what kind of resources do -- are needed right now to ensure you, your staff, you know, aren't pouring from an empty cup? >> yeah, i think it's been a big push to normalize mental health care, which i think is so important. traditionally, if you are in health care, and you even mention that you sought mental health -- professional mental health care in the past or you were on medications or anything like that, there was a potential professional penalty for even doing that. and i think now we're really pushing to say it's not only okay but it's normal and even expected that in circumstances
like these, where we are having to make very difficult decisions about who we can provide care to, what kind of care we can provide on a day-to-day basis when everything is limited, not just shortages of staff but also medications, basic supplies, blood is in short supply and we have to make decisions about which patient, you know, which patients get them and which don't. every day is asking us to make these decisions that have huge moral injury. in circumstances like this, mental health care is recommended for people who have to do this over sustained periods. and i think the challenge really is how do we maintain our mental health supply when there's a national shortage also of the mental health care workforce before we went into the pandemic. and they've been overwhelmed and kudos to the way mental health providers have tried to step up in this moment and take care of not only themselves but all of us when we are in greatest need. but that is also very lean. >> and perhaps your friends and family have figured out how to
read you and how to help you even when you're not expressing that you necessarily need help. but then what would be your recommendation to people who have friends and loved ones who are in the medical care industry who need some help but who may not articulate that and say that? what do we do to help each other? that? how do we help each other? >> oh much in community. opening the door to be a listening ear. againance having all of our lack and actions be supportive of mental health care seeking. being really supportive and understanding when people need extra time for themselves, need to go on medications, things like that and just trying to be -- i think trying to really approach this pandemic in terms of thinking about others and being part of a community. i cannot express how much a part of our mental health and well-being is haval people sake
this pandemic seriously. not just ins hospital, can't be that bad, sure we'll get through because we've gotten through before. hearing that is really damaging to our mental health. figuring how can the community support health care workers and part of that is actually being a good community member and advancing vaccination, mask-wearing indoors, trying to be a good citizen and support the community. those lift us up and make us feel we're going to get through this. >> dr. esther choo, i just want to give you a big, old hug. i hear your exhaustion and resolve. thank you for always joining us and giving us the real story on what we as individuals can do and what you and others on the front line are up against. so big hug. thank you so much. >> i appreciate the virtual hug. those help, too. >> all right. appreciate it. appreciate you. all right. turning now to sports. where rafael nadal rallied from
two sets down to win a record-breaking 21st grand slam men's single the title at the australian open final. the numbers succeed nadal, defeated world number two, diil medvedev, breaking the tie with novak djokovic who had to exit australia and roger federer for most grand slams won and the turned time in nadal's career he rallied from two sets down. congrats to him. very sad news. veteran actor howard hefman has died. he was 81. hefman best known for playing outrageous radio deejay dr. johnny fever on the sitcom wkrp in cincinnati. >> well, it's good-bye to the
elevator music. >> what a great show. hessman earned two emmy nominations for his role at johnny fever, also starred on "ahead of the class" and appeared on early other shows. hessman hosted "saturday night live" several times over the years. neuriva plus fuelsls six key indicators of brain performance. more brain performance? yes, please! neuriva. think bigger. ♪ feel stuck and need a loan? move to sofi and feel what it'sike to get your money right. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ move to a sofi personal loan.
earn $10 just for viewing your rate — and get your money right. ♪ i didn't know my genetic report could tell me i was prone to harmful blood clots. i travel a ton, so this info was kind of life changing. maybe even lifesaving. ♪do you know what the future holds?♪ what happens when we welcome change? we can transform our workforce overnight out of convenience, or necessity. we can explore uncharted waters,
and not only make new discoveries, but get there faster, with better outcomes. with app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions, vmware helps companies navigate change-- meeting them where they are, and getting them where they want to be. faster. vmware. welcome change. - hiring is step one when it comes to our growth. we can't open a new shop or a new location without the right people in place. i couldn't keep up until i found ziprecruiter. ziprecruiter helps us get out there quickly and get us qualified candidates quickly. they sent us applicants that matched what i was looking for. i've hired for every role, entry-level technicians, service advisors, store managers. ziprecruiter helps me find all the right people, even the most difficult jobs to fill. - [announcer] ziprecruiter, rated the number one hiring site. try it for free at ziprecruiter.com
gun violence is reaching record levels across the u.s., and law enforcement agencies in some of the nation's largest cities have recovered a decade high number of firearms. many of which are untracked and untraceable. cnn national correspondent isabelle rosales joining me with more. >> reporter: experts say hard to address gun violence and the reason for that is twofold. the increase number of guns and just the difficulty in tracking both legal and illegal guns. gun violence has surged. a cnn analysis found that ten of the most popular cities here in the united states actually set an all-time homicide record in 2021. most of those involving guns. part of the problem here are ghost guns. that is the terminology for the
homemade guns piesed together bit by bit, and those make up a smaller proportion of guns seized by police office they're showing up with growing frequency at crime scenes and at shooting. new york city mayor eric adams outspoken about the rise of gun violence in his city and introduced new policpolice ing s there. >> stop the flow of guns. we are removing thousands of guns off our streets and appears for every gun we remove from the street five are coming in. that is unacceptable. >> reporter: so in new york city back no 2021 police recovered their 6000s guns. a 26% increase from 2019 in philadelphia. about the same amount, highest seen there, in at least ten years, and then chicago doubled that. 12,000 guns. 62% higher than in 2020.
now, we have seen that gun violence directed at law enforcement officers in new york city. we saw two police officers there shot and killed. the gun the suspect used was stolen. fred? >> isabelle, thank you for brings that to us. appreciate that. thank you for joining me. i'm fredricka whitfield. the "cnn newsroom" continues with jim acosta right now. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." i'm jim accosta in washington. the threat of war hangs over russia and ukraine, ukraine offering a new torism slogan. stay calm and visit. all while buildup of russian troops at its door step reaches levels not seen since the cold war. warning an invasion could have horrific consequence