♪ good morning to viewers here in the united states and around the world. it is wednesday, february 2nd. i'm brianna keilar with john berman on this groundhogs day. the new heartbreak in virginia where two officers were shot and killed on the campus of

a private college in bridgewater during an active shooter standoff. officer j.j. jefferson and john poynter, known as the dynamic duo, lost their lives in this, one of whom was the best man at the other's wedding just this year. in new york city, an huff-duty police officer was shot by two suspects who tried to rob him while he was on his way to work. we are told. officer is in stable condition. it happened on the eve of the funeral for 27-year-old nypd officer will bird maura, who was killed alongside his colleague during an ambush almost two weeks ago. in texas, during the emotional funeral for a deputy killed during a traffic stop, officials called. judicial system broken. >> this has to stop. those in authority who are coddling the criminals and enabling this behavior have culp beability just as those who are pulling the trigger.

>> we cannot continue to do our jobs effectively when the rest of the judicial system is broken. people need to be held accountable because enough is enough. there is no other way to say it. we're tired. we're tired. we're tired physically. and we're tired emotionally. this is a fight between good and evil. and we will not let evil prevail. >> in just the past two weeks alone, officers shot in houston, st. louis, milwaukee, new york and now virginia, which where we are heading now to alexandra field who is covering this story. alexandra, what happened in bridgewater? >> reporter: brianna, these were two officers killed on the campus they were meant to protect. they were responding to reports of a suspicious person on campus. we know there was a brief encounter before both officers were shot at.

the president of the college expressing his heartbreak, the community's heartbreak. saying they were close friends known as the dynamic duo. john was j.j.'s best man in his wedding this year. i they were beloved by students, faculty and staff. i hurst for their families and loved ones, as i know we all do. the suspect is facing a slew of charges. a 27-year-old virginia man. law enforcement also investigating a number of firearms associated with him. president biden expressing his condolences to the families whose hraoeuflslives were lost . he said this, gun violence against law enforcement officers is sickening, and it must end. brianna. >> alexandra, thank you for that report. breaking overnight, abc news

suspended "the view" co-host whoopi goldberg two weeks after she had the holocaust was not about race. the president of abc news said the words were wrong and hurtful. goldberg has apologized for her remarks. >> i said something that i feel a responsibility for not leaving unexamined. because my words upset so many people, which was never my intention. and i understand why now. and for that i am deeply, deeply grateful because the information i got was really helpful and helped me understand some different things. >> cnn's oliver darcy joins me now. oliver, again, the suspension came after that apology, after a written apology. is this surprising? >> you know, john, i was a little surprised because it came after the apology. i wasn't shocked after talking to staffers throughout the day. there are two schools of camp. some people said she apologized.

you don't punish ignorance. they go on air and say they were wrong and used it as a learning lesson, which whoopi goldberg did. if anybody else said it, they would face disciplinary action and whoopi goldberg not being suspended would show she was immune to the rules. staffers felt something needed to be done which led to the president putting out a statement suspending whoopi goldberg. she said i am suspending her for her wrong and hurtful comments. i have asked her to take time and reflect and learn about the impact of her comments. the entire abc news organization stands in solidarity with our jewish colleagues. there was just really nothing

godwin could do . >> what her co hefts think about the visibility on that. and broaden it out. this does get to the larger discussion of, okay, you screw up, you apologize. what then? >> right. well, i talked to ana navarre ra, c ra. no one thinks she is an anti-semite. she made a mistake, came out, apologized. it is unscripted live television. and things are going to be said that don't sit well with others. mistakes are going to be made. at the end of the day, you come out and apologize for your remarks. that's what whoopi goldberg did. that is the sentiment on "the view" and abc news staffers given that she did invite the anti-defamation head on the program yesterday to have this conversation. he said he accepted her apology.

it seemed to be this learning mention. for the suspension to come down hours later did surprise people. there were also internal pressure for godwin to do something. she was getting it from both camps, people who wanted action and people who wanted the apology to stand as its own. >> oliver darcy, thank you for your reporting. appreciate it. >> thank you. donald trump's threat toward voting machines shows just how dangerous things were for democracy. also for the road ahead. and now the january 6th committee plans to investigate trump's role in his attempt to reverse his 2020 election loss among a flurry of other developments. joining us is now is pete aguilar, democratic congressman from california and a member of the january 6th committee. sir, thank you so much for being with us this morning. we do have a lot to discuss here. we've learned of course this week that former president trump was directly involved in these voting machine seizure executive

orders. is the committee then directly investigating trump for a coup attempt now? >> well, these are details that we continue to look at and investigate. our own investigative process is under way. we're not going to detail exactly where we are. but to say that this is dangerous or what the former president did was dangerous is an understatement. we were at the doorstep to a democratic and constitutional crisis. and i think it's important to acknowledge that. the committee's work will continue to unravel the pieces here and will ultimately tell the truth to the american public, which is what we promise to do. >> one of stewart rhodes's lawyers, the founder of the oath keepers who was there january 6th, said he's testifying before the committee today remotely. can you confirm that? >> i'm not going to comment on

specific interviews or individuals who we have talked to or will be talking to. but what i can tell you is every day we continue to make progress. over 475 witnesses have come forward, either voluntarily or through a subpoena. and we continue to make progress. so under the leadership of chairman thompson and vice chair cheney, we're making significant headway. . >> that lawyer also said that rhodes would be invoking his fifth amendment rights. expected to be quite a bit. what do you get out of a witness when they're doing that? >> well, when that happens, we can at least put on the record the questions that we intend to ask. and then, if it's appropriate, we can have conversations about next steps to get them to answer those questions. and so we have taouls that we can use in order to compel testimony. the committee needs to decide

whether we want to pursue that. but ultimately this is a case by case decision. and that individual is facing federal crimes and indictments. so i'm not certain what our path forward will be. we clearly are supportive at the department of justice carrying on their piece of this, which is to prosecute individuals who committed wrongdoing. >> that lawyer represents other january 6th defendants and said that rhodes and others would welcome a trump pardon. is trump tampering with witnesses when he's talking about pardons, when he's dangling them in front of 1-6 defendants? >> absolutely. and i think the question is more from my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, where are they? do they support this? when is enough enough when a mob is chanting hang mike pence, it wasn't enough. when he asked brad raffensperger

to find 11,000 votes, it wasn't enough. now he is dangling pardons if he gets back in office for individuals. will that be enough or will there be more collective amnesia. i don't know where the floor is on that side of the aisle. >> congressman, can you tell us what is the delay with asking mike pence to appear? they said that was going to happen by the end of january. >> well, we're still taking witness testimony. we're trying to be deliberate and thoughtful, but we are also being respectful of the office of the vice president. so we continue to make progress. if it's appropriate and when it's appropriate, the chairman will have more to share on that. we are making significant progress with or without that testimony. but i understand the newsworthy nature of it. >> what does that mean, being respectful? is he reticent to testify? >> well, it means that we are

being thoughtful. we're not rushing to any decisions here. we are being respectful of the office. we're trying to get testimony from individuals who were around the former vice president. and we are still processing a lot of documents that the archives has sent. and obviously in any interview we want to do, we want to be prepared. that means we have to process the documents and get prepared for that witness. and so we continue to take on documents that the archives have sent over from the office of the vice president and we will proceed thoughtfully and respectfully. . >> the former president actually called on your committee to investigate former vice president pence for not over turning election results. what was your reaction to that? >> again, i'm not surprised much.

he said it out loud. it was very, very clear to those of us on the house floor that day and those of us who took an impeachment vote, he wanted to overturn the election. he clearly wanted to use every tool possible from november to january 6th in order to do that. whether it was election machines or using the levers of the department of justice or department of defense or homeland security. all of that should be frightening to the american public. . >> has anything surprised you from the records you've gotten from the national archives? >> yes. i think we learned things through all of these document productions. and so there have been things that confirm details that we already know. and there have been new pieces that have been helpful to aid in our investigation. >> and how many of them were ripped up and had to be taped back together and what sized pieces are we talking about?

>> i can't comment on that. and i haven't physically seen the document reported in public. but we do know through other public reporting from a few years ago, this was a practice that the former president undertook. there was actually individuals on staff who were following him around and taping back these pieces of paper because it's out of compliance with the presidential records act when he did that. that's all public sourced and reported. it's just -- it's maddening that he continued to do that. i'm no lawyer, but generally when someone tears things or shreds things, it's because they don't want them read. a former ucla lecturer is in custody after police said he sent an 800-page manifesto

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31-year-old christopher harris is in custody. he was taken into custody in boulder, colorado yesterday. how did this all go down? there was an email sent to members of the ucla community, a threatening email as it was described, which included an 800-page manifesto. ultimately, yesterday morning, after folks in california had connected with colorado, boulder s.w.a.t. team was activated in the morning as they surrounded harris's apartment, schools, homes, businesses in the area evacuated. he was arrested a few hours later later. the police chief in boulder stressing yesterday the importance of working together with other law enforcement agencies while also talking about just why this manifesto was so concerning, described as alarming and very disturbing. take a listen. >> upon reviewing parts of the manifesto, reidentified thousands of references to violence, stating things such as

killing, death, murder, shootings, bombs, school yard massacre and boulder -- phrases like burn and attack boulder university. i can't state this, the importance of having collaboration at the federal, state and local levels was critical to the swift resolution of this incident this morning. >> now, in november, harris allegedly tried to purchase a firearm but was denied. there is a protection order in california. that is likely why that was denied. he was arrested facing state charges. tuesday night, he was transferred to federal custody. the d.a. saying federal charges are pending because threats were made across state lines. >> got to say, there's a lot there. good thing they caught this when they did. erica hill, thank you very much. happening now, u.s. officials bracing for russian cyber attacks as the ukraine standoff escalates. what the fbi is now warning

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this morning. the u.s. on high alert for potential cyber attacks by russia as its border standoff with ukraine escalates. the fbi is advising businesses to report any increase in hacking threats that could target critical u.s. infrastructure. we have more on this story. shawn, what can you tell us about this threat? >> brianna, the fbi is asking businesses to scour their networks and provide any

up-to-date information on potential russian hacking activity. we should say there's no specific significant threat to u.s. infrastructure, but u.s. officials have been for weeks, if not months, preparing for any potential backlash in cyberspace from russia because of tensions with ukraine. we talked to a number of experts who looked at some of the issues here. and they've been quietly behind the scenes combing networks for their clients, including liquefied natural gas utilities that may have been probed. all to say there is sort of heightened alert right now. the resiliency of critical infrastructure has improved in recent years. and they're preparing for any potential repercussions because of the ukraine crisis. >> we've seen some disruptions because of russia involved at least cyber intrusions. do you think that companies and

agencies have figured this out how they need to protect themselves? >> yeah. i think it's never a perfect thing. you know, the attacker needs to only be right once, while the defender has to be right all the time. there's a lot more awareness and investment in these defenses. and there's a lot of learning also from what's going on in ukraine right now. there is a cyber attack about 10, 15 days ago that -- aimed at ukrainian government agencies and u.s. officials have been in close contact via the embassy in kyiv and other points of contact with ukrainian partners saying what are you seeing, is this a new malicious code, and how can we learn to better defend ourselves. >> we will be keeping our eyes peeled for that. sean, thank you. rare access to the front lines.

thousands of russian soldiers and tanked miles away. clarissa ward live in ukraine. clarissa, how would you describe the sense of urgency? >> reporter: it's pretty extraordinary, john. because if the russians did cross that border, the people of mariapole would be the first to know. we spent two days on the front lines. basically, no one seems to be that worried. they have lived under russia's shadow for many years. they had a pro with pro-russian separatists for eight years. they see what is happening at the moment largely a political issue. take a look. this is ukraine's first line of defense if russia decides to in invade. it is basic. half a dozen soldier in snow covered trenches. no signs of heavy weapons. separatists are half a while

away. he's saying that every night there's fighting once it gets dark. these front lines have been frozen for years. a russian offensive would change that in an instant. but the alarm in washington is not shared here. what's amazing to see is despite the buildup of tanks and heavy weaponry on the russian side of the border, which is less than 20 miles away from here, here on the ukrainian said there is no sense at all that anyone is preparing for an invasion. the sergeant here asked that we not give his name. he said he doesn't expect conflict, but he is prepared. our commanders told us that we must be alert, he tells us. we are ready to meet guests from russia. what kind of weapons do you have at this position? do you have any heavy weaponry? i don't see any, but i want to

make sure. you don't need to see, and the enemy doesn't need to see, but we have everything. we see just a handful of checkpoints. if the ukrainian army can't hold this area, russian forces could reach a port city of half a million in hours. despite the threat, life here goes on much as normal. at the local market, stalls are open and the shelves are full. i would love to know if you think there will be a war? we don't want war. we have children and grandchildren, natalia says. and there won't be war. we believe that. some say that america is exaggerating the threat. no, there will not be a war, he says. it's only biden who thinks this. it's interesting talking to people here.

nobody seems to be remotely concerned about the prospect of an imminent invasion. these people are no strangers to war. all around mariople, the hollowed out villages and buil buildings destroyed. the weather moved by denial or disbelief, these soldiers and the people they're protecting, don't expect history to repeat itself. for now, they wait and they watch and they hope. now, the u.s. has been supplying a steady stream of weapons to the ukrainian army. among them, much coveted anti-tank javelin missiles. but one of the rules of the cease-fire, which as we saw as regularly being broken is those javelin missiles and any heavy weaponry can't be brought down to the front lines.

if there is a lightning offensive from the russian side put the ukrainians at distinct disadvantage. >> clarissa, i have to say it's fascinating to hear from the front lines. it is only by you going there that we get that perspective. so we are so thankful for that. we got a look at new satellite imagery from a private company that shows troop buildup even more than we realized in belarus, western russia and also crimea. >> reporter: that's right. they are new satellite images from a company called max-r. they appear to show a significant increase in military hardware in belarus, also in western russia, and in crimea. this is starkly at odds, john, with the rhetoric we hear from the kremlin. president putin saying yesterday there is no intention of invading ukraine. this is sort of a hysterical

tp tprof say of america to goad us into the conflict. we see this as deeply concerning buildup of forces and heavy weaponry on multiple sides of this country. >> here are the images sowomen can see. buildup of equipment on three sides of ukraine, which is what is so concerning. at least to u.s. officials. clarissa ward, again, remarkable to have you there on the front lines or what would be the front lines. thank you very much. so first inflation. now americans are bracing for interest rates to rise in the coming weeks. what this means for you. and former miami dolphins coach flores suing for alleged racial discrimination. this could be a bombshell lawsuit with major repercussions. he will join us live in studio

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this morning, as inflation raises prices, the federal reserve is signaling that interest rate hikes are on the horizon. we have the latest on this. just a series of concerns, vanessa. >> reporter: absolutely. it's a financial tossup. you have rising interest rates,

which means it may cool down everyday prices. but it means you might be paying more on your loans. if you're an american that fell into debt during this pandemic, it's going to mean that you're paying even more money. we spoke to one american who says that the anticipation of these rising interest rates is like a monster looming over her. what is that number? >> that is $78,000. the auto loan is $8,420. and student loans 58,028. >> reporter: i imagine they all have interest on? >> yep. >> reporter: how do you foresee the numbers changing? >> i feel like they're just going to sit there and barely move. >> reporter: bringing jennifer's debt to a standstill. goldman sachs estimates the

federal reserve will raise interest rates by a quarter persist several times this year, lookicly beginning in march. >> the reason that interest rates are going up is to try to cool down the economy. so everyday things that you buy are not that expensive. >> yeah. >> reporter: so will that helpoff set potentially paying these off? >> probably not. interior interest rates have remained low throughout the pandemic to help the economy recover. now, as rates are set to rise, they'll impact credit cards, student loans, car loans and mortgage rates. >> it is looming over me like a monster. >> reporter: she said she lost her part-time job doing social media for four months during the pandemic. she kept her full time factory job in rural pennsylvania, deemed essential, making $16.50 an hour, and earns a couple hundred dollars a month doing a

podcast. she added $4,000 more to her already considerable debt, falling further down the financial ladder. >> i started falling back. i just look forward to maybe sometime before i die i might pay it off. or pay part of it off. >> reporter: at toyota of scr scranton, they say it won't have an immediate impact on car sales because it is low supply and big demand. >> the other side of the coin is there is such a big demand for these vehicles. >> reporter: we saw it as we saw the last available new car roll off the lot with a sold sign. >> the interest rate hike, maybe it will cool inflation a little bit. it will take a lot before that happens. it is a weak weapon in my opinion to kind of tame this beast right now. >> reporter: and it will take a little bit of time for these interest rates to bring down

inflation. but something we might see right away is a little bit of a buying frenzy for people looking for homes, trying to capitalize on low mortgage rates. people looking for cars trying to get good interest rates on new car loans. but one thing we have seen over this pandemic, john, if you have a savings account, a cd account, you haven't seen that making much money. now that the interest rates are rising, you could get a couple more dollars into your bank account soon. john. >> it's been a long time. a generation or half a generation since americans have had to deal with this type of financial situation. it will be very interesting to see. vanessa, terrific report. thanks very much. how about this, political strategists suggesting democrats can win the midterms by backing some republicans. plus, donald trump turning on one of his biggest supporters, calling senator lindsey graham a rio, a republican in name only, after he said it was wrong to pardon capitol rioters. we'll have more on that story ahead. and thanks to voya, i'm confident about my future.

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there's a really interesting new op-ed in politico magazine that said democrats should endorse anti-trump republicans in red districts in order to save democracy. that is the strategy that is being proposed by former top aides to dick cheney and al gore. one of them is with us now. senior adviser at ridgely walsh and former communications director to vice president al gore. kayly, give us a sense of what you are proposing here along with julia glover. can you tell us what is at stick as you see it? >> sure. and good morning. thanks for having me. in 2022, democracy is on the ballot.

and what we argue here is that in 2020 republicans really helped make a material difference in key states which helped with the election nationally. democrats need to think about playing chess, not checkers, in this election. democrats need to look at some key elections democrats should consider investing to make a difference in the midterms. >> what this do is make the primary election into a general election, right? >> well, voters are already making choices and thinking about these state and house races in a national election. we are just making the argument

that with democracy being on the ballot, we have to look at how we defeat trumpism in the midterms and think about broader and bigger choices. of course this would affect not only the democratic national committee but also how labor unions and others look at these elections. >> you mentioned the utah senate race where, as you point out, the democrat obviously not having a chance in utah. shifted support to evan mcmullin over a pro-trump incumbent. and arizona, which is where you saw anti-trump republicans like cindy mccain and others supporting joe biden for president. obviously, joe biden won arizona. how do you convince democrats to do this? >> well, honestly, i mean, we have seen independent-minded candidates win. whether that's bill walker in acting a. alaska is a great example,

right? we have seen a number of independent-minded candidates. we have seen that in maine. so there are examples. it is possible there will be more examples statewide. and then we think -- of course redistricting is still under way. we have seen in tennessee, for example, where jim cooper's district was fractured in three separate districts. we name a number of house districts, potentially madison cawthorn, boebert, biggs. i think we have to look at the map widely and pick a set of races and try to look at how we try to defeat extraordinarily pro-tufpl counties that aren't necessarily representing the kitchen table issues that matter to voters. >> lauren boebert's vulnerable in this, as you see it? >> could be. could be.

i think over the cycle you could see this redistricting cycle where there could be vulnerabilities. i think we will see that there will -- trumpism will recede. you have to challenge it in key districts where over time we will have a chance to take on these candidates. >> very interesting read that you and juliana glover put together, kalee. thank you for being here this morning. >> thank you so much. >> we are moments away from knowing whether we will have six more weeks of winter or an early spring. is phil the cute little rodent by some people's standards, really accurate in predictions. >> he's a fraud! a fraud. plus, a bombshell lawsuit

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super bowls, 7. pro bowls, 15. wins, 243. i'm running out of breath here. touchdown passes, 624. passing yards, nearly 85,000. >> is he the g.o.a.t., greatest of all time. >> yes. . >>? sort of in all things. you have a way of looking at this. >> i do. i took some g.o.a.t.s across provisions. michael jordan, 6 nba championships. roosevelt won four president election wins. katharine hepburn, four acting as kors. across professionings, tom brady is the g.o.a.t. of g.o.a.t.s. >> maybe the most important competition is kim kardashian. >> cultural cache. i never watched "keeping up with the kardashians" but i hear it was a groovy program. in the past year, tom brady led in 43 states.

what i love is you can go over time brady expanse states. both in the past year and 2006, the g.o.a.t. of g.o.a.t.s. >> domination over generations. >> yes. >> some on the other hand, we have this annual fraud being perpetrated on the american people. it is groundhog day. >> it is. we will see if the grouped hog sees his shadow or not. i don't really think he cares. because how often is punxsutawney phil right about winter? he is batting 40% since 2011. if he was batting 50%, it would be a coin flip. groundhog predicting how long winter is going to go, does worse than a coin flip. >> you would anticipate a coin flip. >> he has a negative war.

cute little fellow, at least in my opinion. and great movie. but he's a fraud. >> there are people who still buy into it, though. >> i love the roper center archives because they find the strangest questions. who do you trust more to tell you when winter ends? 78%, tv weather people. 14% say the groundhog. are they just messing with us? what is going on here here? >> i don't know what is going on. you see people jumping up and down. it is like qanon, the people who believe in the groundhog. you have another statistical analysis. if we were to measure, statistically speaking, who was responsible for the most groundhog mishaps. >> yeah. so, dropping a groundhog who dies a few days later by new york city mayor, bill de blasio dropped one groundhog who died a few days later. versus the others, zero. bill de blasio is leading in

this department. and i believe we actually even have video of this we were able to pull, which i will now play for you watching the potential action right here. >> it's actually really sad. it's not worth it. it's not worth it for anybody. >> it's not worth it for anybody. leave the groundhogs to the professionals. these are people who train their entire lives for this type of moment. we shouldn't leave this in the hands of politicians. . >> harry enten, thank you. >> that you can. >> sir. >> "new day" continues right now. ♪ welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. it is wednesday, february 2nd. i'm john berman with brianna keilar