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welcome to "cnn newsroom." >> we begin with the first u.s. troop deployment to eastern europe in response to fears that russia will invade ukraine. the pentagon announced 3,000 american forces will head to romania, poland and germany in the coming days in addition to the other troops put on alert. >> the white house said it will no longer describe the russian invasion as imminent because
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that language sent an unintended message. >> i used that once. i think others have then we stopped using it because i think it sent a message we weren't intending to send. we knew that president putin made a decision. the vast majority of times we talked about it, we said he could invade any time. i think i used it once last week. >> but the decision now is you're not describing it as imminent. >> i haven't in over a week. >> new satellite images show russia continues its military build up by ukraine's border. cnn pentagon correspondent, barbara starr, is with us now. first, the pentagon press secretary said these american troops will not go into ukraine. made that clear. what did they say is the purpose of these deployments? >> well, that's perhaps one of the most significant questions right now that people are asking. u.s. troops not going into ukraine unless maybe they have
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to help evacuate americans out of the country, should it come to that, but not anticipated and certainly not anticipated that they will have any contact with any russian forces. so they're going to the eastern flank of nato. poland, romania, and the pentagon holding open the option that additional troops could go to other locations, trying to reassure these allies that the ali alliance and that the u.s. is there for them. that the u.s. will help bolster them in the face of russian aggression. but asked the question if the russians are not anticipated to step across the border into nato countries, what is it exactly these u.s. troops are going to be doing and whiy are they goin now? listen to what the pentagon press secretary had to say. >> we're not ruling anything in or out with this announcement, barb. this isn't about an intel assessment about what mr. putin will or won't do. we still don't believe he's made
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a decision to further invade ukraine. and if he does further invade ukraine, obviously there's going to be consequences for that, but he has many options and capabilities available to him as to how he might do that and we simply don't know. >> so these forces, which at the moment, are generally land based forces aimed at trying to shore up these allies and present a unified picture of improvement and back up and reassurance, if you will, to their military capability, but the very sensitive point that not so much power is put into this region that somehow it gives putin an execute that the u.s. is staging a provocation. the u.s. is adamant these troops are there to bolster nato allies. >> barbara starr, thank you very much for your reporting and later this hour, john kirby will join us live to discuss the troop movements.
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so any moment now, president biden will announce the -- cancer moon smohot. president biden originally led this program during his final year at vice president during the obama administration. john harwood joins us now. so john, what do we expect to hear from the president? >> we expect to hear the president anunesuate the goal you mentioned. 50% decline in cancer death rates. the rate is down 25%. it involves a whole lot of medical research. it does not require new money by the way. this was passed during the obama administration. there's still $400 million left to be spent this year, 2022, and next year. so there's research. there's a call to action on cancer screenings to get more people aware of the need to go to the doctor and get checked
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out. it's going to involve more coordination within the government, different cabinet departments, as well as bringing the private sector together with government. this is something that i think we also need to point out politically is a topic that touches every single american family and after a long period of time where the president's been bogged down in legislation in congress, he can come forward and talk about this initiative as something that the executive branch can do on its own that touches pretty much every american family and of course it's touched joe biden and jill biden very personally as well because of the loss of beau biden in 2015. >> all right, john, stay with us. we want to bring into this conversation, abbey phillip and dr. emanuel. also the vice provost of global initiatives at the university of pennsylvania. welcome to you both. dr. manuel, let me start with you and what it takes to reach that goal of cutting mortality
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by 20%. >> we have about 600,000 deaths a year. that translates into about 150 deaths for every 100,000 americans. we're actually down about 32% since 1991. that's a great achievement and we have a lot of advances. immuno therapies. cell therapies. even vaccines for things like cervical cancer, so we are making a lot of advances and we are very ready to make more. >> sorry to interrupt. we want to go to the president now who is going to be talking about this cancer moon shot and of course, this is very personal to him so we will hear about his plans for this initiative. >> thank you. thank you, thank you, thank you.
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i'm joe biden, jill biden's husband. i want to thank you, doctor, for that introduction, but i want to thank you more for all the effort you've put in to change, save, alter people's lives. your dedication to it. and as we used, i used to say in the senate, i think it's still said. excuse a point of personal privilege. i'd like to see that doctor there. that's the man who spent 18 months trying to save our son's life. doctor, love you. whol e family. folks, doctors optimism what our
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cancer moon shot is all about. and of course, i want to thank jill and kamala and doug. they just shared how personal it is for them and their families. like so many of you, every one of you have a story. our message today is this. we can do this. i promise you. we can do this. all those we lost. all those we miss. we can end cancer as we know it. i committed to this fight when i was vice president. it's one of the reasons why quite frankly i ran for president. let there be no doubt now that i am president, this is a presidential white house priority. period.
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the bipartisan members of congress, i guess i'll leave somebody out. congress is here. this is, they can tell you, one of the truly bipartisan issues in the united states congress. i know the votes, but that includes senator leahy, amy klobuchar, chris van holland. sanford bishop. barbara lee. jim mcgovern. debbie wasserman shultz. brian higgins. i said i wasn't going to do this. terry sewell. totally american moment. i'm sure i left somebody out for which i apologize. but this could really be an american moment to prove to ourselves and quite frankly to the world that we can do really big things.
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since congress passed and president nixon signed into law the national cancer act and declared war on cancer. we learned cancer is not a single disease. there are over 200 as you all know, different types of cancer. caused by different genetic mutations in our cells. we discovered new medicines, therapies, early detection, prevention measures that extend lives and save lives. in the first 25 year, the death rate was largely unchanged then things began to change. the progress over the last 25 year, the death rate has fallen by more than 25%. but here's the deal. despite the progress of lives extended and lives saved, cancer's still the number two cause of death in american.
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second only to heart disease. in the last two years of covid-19 pandemic, has taken, the pandemic's taken more than 800,000 american lives. but that same period of time, cancer's claimed 1.2 million american lives. year in and year out. for too many patients and their families, diagnosed with cancer instead of hope, there's also bewilderment. remember, doc, you telling the family that we had questions and you were available because it's a hard road to understand and traverse. the feeling of being on your own, a static adrift in a sea of patients, frustrated that hospitals and doctors can't only share your medical records or
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help find answers when there's minutes count. having to advocate for even the most basic care and attention for your loved one. a flood of information completely different language. in many cases, with no one to help you decipher it. even in reach of a therapy, a therapy that's too expensive or your insurance won't cover it. despite all the progress, there's still a sense of powerlessness. guilty. that maybe you're not doing enough because you don't know enough. and fear. so when president obama asked me to launch our cancer moon shot in our administration, our goal was to bring a new sense of urgency to make the system of prevention, research and patient
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care. take advantage of the 21st century science and technology. we began the process. many of you in this room were part of that. we harnessed the federal government to change the culture, increase cooperation among scientists and break down some of the silos. i know i remember i wanted to transfer a particular scan from a hospital in pennsylvania to a hospital in d.c. and was told i couldn't do it. wasn't able to do it. transfer just about anything else in the world, but you couldn't do it. hospitals didn't want the other hospitals to have access to their because patients can change their mind with all the records. that included everything of making federally funded cancer
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research more accessible to the public instead of hiding behind a pway wall. we launched trials.cancer.gov so everyone can look up clinical trials around the world. i traveled the country bringing together leaders of healthcare, technology, education, business, and technology. i visited most of the major cancer centers in the world. met with heads of state in those countries. and decided how we could work together to try to make progress. i remember particularly a good meeting in australia. one of the final pieces of legislation president obama signed into law was the 20th century cures act with the help of members of congress, particularly i know, the fred upton here? fred, you here? fred upton was part of it. dying to get in the house.
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to set up new cancer treatments can be evaluated faster. provide provided seven years of new funding, trial networks to discover new drugs and new efforts for childhood cancer. i presided over the overwhelming vote after the election had taken place, the presidential election, when everything is supposed to come to a screeching halt, a bipartisan vote to fund over $6 billion and i watched my friend, and is my friend. we disagree a lot. mitch mcconnell. stand there and ask unanimous consent to name the cancer provisions after our son, beau. cancer moon shot brought the country and the world closer together on this issue and when
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we left office, jim and i knew we had to keep it going. so we took in a lot of you we had five nobel lawuriets and others who were involved. well turned on turning it into a moon to create the cancer research and care system that most people think we already have. and that they all deserve. they don't know they don't have it until they try to deal with it. everywhere we'd go, people would share their stories. we heard stories of loss and despair. the stories began to change just a little bit. a change of feeling. real hope. not because of me and jill. because of you in this room and those at home. doctors, care givers, advocates, patients, survivors. that's why today i'm proud to
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announce our plan to supercharge the cancer moon shot as a central effort of the biden harris administration. it's bold. it's ambitious. but it's completely doable. just as we harnessed the science of covid-19 vaccines and treatments, we'll bring a fierce sense of urgency to the fight against cancer. the goal is to cut the cancer death rate in half in the next 25 years. at least by 50%. and to turn more cancers into chronic diseases that people can live with. to create a more supportive experience for patients and their families. and by doing these things and more to end cancer as we know it and here's what we're fighting. and how we know what cancer looks like today. a disease where we often diagnose it too late. we have too few effective ways
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to prevent it. the stark inequities based on race, disparity, gender identity and other factors still persist and we know too little about why treatments work in some patients and the same patient with the exact same diagnosed cancer, it doesn't work in that patient. where we still lack strategies to develop treatments for some cancers. where we don't do enough to help patients and their families navigate through the process. we don't learn enough from patient experiences or their data. in fact, when we first started this work, one of the first things we did was make sure that doctors and researchers work together, share information, allow patients to share their data with other doctors and researchers to help others. but there's so much more to do.
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i remember when we were going through this in the moon shot and my saying that i was told, well, patients don't want to share their data. they all want to share their data. sometimes y'all don't want to share what you know. and for each -- for each of the ways we know cancer today, we know we can change its trajectory. for example, to prevent cancer, scientists are exploring if the new mrna vaccine technology that brought us safe and effective covid-19 vaccines could also be used to stop cancer cells when they first arrived. get them then. to target the right treatments to the right patients. we're learning more about how to use genetics. immune response and other
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factors to tell which combinations of treatments are likely to work best for a particular individual. we can target efforts to all americans, whether urban, rural, or tribal communities, have equal access to diagnostics, therapeutics. clinical trials. there's so much more we can do. as i said at the beginning, this is a presidential priority. i will do my part on fund and using my authorities as president to break log jams and speed breakthroughs. i challenge and encourage all of you to continue to do your part. this will be bipartisan. this will bring the country together. and quite frankly, other nations as well. here are some of the actions i'm announcing today. first, i formed a new cancer
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cabinet which is convened in the coming weeks to include members of the cabinet who are here today. all the people sitting on the stage here. they'll drive a whole government effort to release every possibility within their power, within their jurisdictions. the white house office of science and technology policy led by senior scientist dr. eric landers sitting on the end there, will chart the path for the cancer moon shot for 2022 and beyond. i'm calling on congress to fund my proposed advanced research agency project for health. this would be a new kind of entity within the national institute of health, the nih, with autonomy and authorities to drive unprecedented progress in biomedicine. it's based on darpa. that has led to breakthrough technologies that protect our
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national security from the internet to gps and so much more. arpah will have a singular purpose to drive breakthroughs to prevent, detect, and treat diseases including cancancer, diabetes. but it cost money and these are the best dollars we could spend. so we've got to get it done. we've got to get it done now and not wait any longer. i'm also calling on the scientific and medical communities to bring the boldest thinking to this fight. i'm calling on the private sector to develop and test new treatments, make drugs more affordable, and share more data and knowledge that can inform the public and benefit every company's research. and i'm respectfully calling on people living with cancer, and care givers and families, to
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keep sharing their experience and keep pushing for progress. you'll have a voice and a seat at the table. i promise you. but here's the one thing we can all do. america missed more than 9 million cancer screenings in the last two years because of covid. 9 million. we have to get cancer screenings back on track an make sure they're accessible to all americans. so today, i'm announcing a call to action. for cancer screening and early detection. if you were supposed to get a cancer screening during the pandemic, call your primary care doctor today. if you're that doctor, talk to your patients. get a screening scheduled. whether it's in the office at home or through telehealth visit because the affordable care act now will cover most private insurance plans as well as medicare and medicaid to cover the recommended preventive care screening free of charge.
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i'm calling on companies, healthcare providers, non-profits and others to step up including developing mobile units and pop-up clinics to reach people where they live. and if you're putting off screening because you're afraid of what you'll find, they'll find, let me say this, and so many people are, put it off. last november, i got a colon cancer screening. i'm glad i did. trust me. i know cancer's scary. going to the doctors can be sca scary, but screening is how you catch it early before it's too late. the earlier you get it, the better shot you have. let me close with this. there's a quote that i made in one of these speeches years ago, five, six years ago. a tribute to -- i was later
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informed it was a tribute to vince lombardy. but whoever the hell gave the quote, it makes sense. here's the quote. practice makes permanent. only perfect practice makes perfect. my challenge to everyone involved in this fight against cancer, take a hard look at your practice. ask yourself if you're practicing perfectly. am i practicing to make the old way permanent. old practices have created data silos, minimize the role of patients, foster the wrong kind of competition instead of the right kind of collaboration. i know we can get this right. i'm positive we can. by not losing sight of the ultimate goal. the patient's health. by not losing sight of something else i also believe. america is a single place on earth, single country that can
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be defined as i told xi, by one word. possibilities. possibilities. when we work together in america, there is nothing beyond our capacity. nothing. so let's show the world what's possible. let' show the world that we're committed. let's show that we can do big things in the united states of america. when we work together, there's nothing beyond our grasp. i mean nothing beyond our grasp and i know of nothing, as i think my colleagues would say that's more bipartisan than take on this fight and mfundamentall change cancer as we know it. it's a mission that can truly unify the nation. and shows us at our best working together rather than working against one another. for every patient asking for one
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more day, remember i met with over 3,000 researchers in the various organizations. and they're good. they're devoting their whole lives to try to save them. and they work really long hours. but they're not practitioners. they've not had a patient come up and say, doc, can you give me just two more weeks? so i can see my daughter, mary. doc, all i need, can you do anything to give me just six more months? see the baby born? it's all i'm asking for, doc. there's a sense of overwhelming urgency, overwhelming urgency for a patient or family member. every patient asking just for one more day, they're not asking to cure me.
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one more day. one more week. can i get another year to be able to do -- for survivors and care givers who carry the physical and mental scars of treatments and recovery and for those who have lost and for the ones we can still say let's end cancer as we know it. i refuse to believe, i refuse to believe this is beyond our capacity. i refuse to believe it. you know, when put together the cancer moon shot, i was vice president and the president gave me authority to task anyone in the administration. when i found out i had the department of energy and ernie munoz and nasa and a lot of other agencies looked to me like, what's the matter with you? said guess what.
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nasa knows more about radiation than all of you. seriously. and ernie, we're in a place with a billion, billion calculations per second. and it goes on. skills people never thought would impact on this. can do it. so my plea to you scientists is share data as best you can. my plea to members in congress, let's fund this particular program and focus on it until we beat it. to the american people, keep the hope alive. there is hope. there is hope. and i'm confident, absolutely confident if we bring all our effort to deal with it, we can make fundamental changes in people's lives and change the families in this country from a
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much better position than they are today with regard to cancer. thank you all for meeting here. i appreciate it. >> we've been listening to president biden relaunching this cancer moon shot initiative. joining us now for context is cnn white house correspondent, john harwood, abbey phillip and dr. manuel. also vice provost at the university of pennsylvania. so do we have the science and the know how right now to do what president biden wants in the next 25 years where he says we can cut cancer deaths in half? >> 25 years is a long time. that's why i think this is definitely doable. i would emphasize one of the most important things to do is to make more cancer drugs affordable. right now, they're 10,000 a
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month for many drugs and people often don't take drugs because they can't afford them. we also have the vaccine against human pappiloma virus. we have to deploy that despite many young women still dying of that illness. so i think it's definitely doable over the course of the next 25 years. >> the president started his remarks by thanking a doctor who was in attendance who worked for 18 months to try to save beau biden's life. he died in 2015 of brain cancer. the vice president talked about her mother who was a breast cancer researcher who died of k colon cancer in 2009. these stories are personal. >> the way that the white house sees it and this is also happens to be a fact, so many american families are touched by cancer. just like the president and the vice president themselves. and so this is not just a
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personal mission for joe biden. it's also something that they know has impact on millions and millions and millions of americans and i just want to add one other thing. you heard dr. emanuel talking about the cost of cancer drugs. there's a huge equity component to this as well. not just the fact that whether or not you can afford a drug that might save your life bears greatly on whether or not you might be able to survive a cancer, but also as we know, there are some cancers that black people and black women are more likely to have bad yooutcos from and finding out more about that, preventing that from happening, that's a piece of this. so for the white house, this issue, it has so many different impacts beyond just the personal. it's about equity. it's also about saving lives frankly on something that's killing hundreds of thousands of people every single year. >> and john, the president, you know, who is such a natural
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optimist said this is a mission that could unify the nation and you know, we've had a global pandemic and that somehow didn't serve to unify the nation. maybe cancer could do that? is it fair to say that if covid hadn't swept in, this would have been his top health priority? >> no. i think expanding, deepening the elements of obama care was his top healthcare priority and he's achieved some of that in the american rescue plan and now he's trying to make it permanent in build back better, but i do think the unity point is the correct one. as abbey said, almost every family is touched by cancer. there's nobody who is against cancer research. there's nobody who is against preventive care, screenings, to try to prevent, keep people from getting cancer. coordination of care to try to make sure that using the knowledge we already have produces better outcomes.
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these are things that are not divisive issues and to the extent that as dr. emanuel just mentioned, we got 25 years to build on the research that's already been done. there's a lot of progress that can be made. mrna vaccines are also relevant to this. so this is something that showcases joe biden not just the optimist, but somebody who's eem pathe pathetic. >> he calls this a presidential white house priority. we'll see what the next steps are. thank you. well, former miami dolphins coach, brian flores, files an explosive class action lawsuit accusing the nfl of racial discrimination. he tells cnn what pushed him over the edge. next. (burke) this is why you want farmers claim forgiveness... [echoing] claim forgiveness-ness, your home premium won't go up just because of this. (woman) wow, that's something.
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by belichick saying congratulations then flores says do you know something i don't? he replies giants. flores makes him aware he hasn't interviewed yet then comes this. this is a key part. belichick says i hear from buffalo and new york giants that you are their guy. at that point, flores goes on to tell him that he still hasn't interviewed yet and questions if he realizes which brian he's speaking to. brian flores or brian dable. that's when belichick says i f-ed up. that is what flores points to to make the point that the giants had already made up their mind before i went to interview and he believes he was being interviewed because the rule, which is a rule in the nfl that has teams interview external as
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well as minority candidates. flores says that made him fuel humiliated. he was feeling disbelief and in laying it all out there, he acknowledges he may be ending his career, but he feels if he can bring about change in the nfl, a league he compares to being operated like a plantation in this lawsuit, he said it would be well worth it. >> this isn't about me. and i understand that. this is bigger than me. this is bigger than football. many have come before and done a lot to create change in this country. for people of color. and i just felt like in this instance, you know, it was my turn to step up and be an agent for change and i'm proud to do that.
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>> and i want to read to you a statement from the nfl. the nfl says the nfl and our clubs are deeply committed to ensuring equitable employment practices an continue to make progress in providing equitable opportunities throughout our organization. >> thank you so much. the secretary general of nato said he welcomes the new u.s. deployment to eastern europe. the pentagon says it's a show of support to allies feeling threatened by russia's military moves moves near ukraine, but military leaders made it clear these troops will not fight in ukraine. they'll deploy the poland and germany. others are going to romania. new satellite images show russia is continuing its military build up. joining us now, pentagon press
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secretary, john kirby. admiral, good to have you back. thanks for your time. >> you bet. thank you. >> so what triggered this decision? is it what has changed or what has not changed? >> i think maybe it's a little bit of both. we continue to see mr. putin add to his military capabilities in the western part of his country and in belarus, he continues to have maritime forces in the mediterranean and north atlantic. he has shown no signs of deescalating and we've been watching this for weeks and we've been in conversations with our nato allies for weeks about what we're seeing and not seeing. no effort to deescalate. these decisions were very much done bilaterally with these nations and in full cooperation with them at their invitation, but these decisions were sort of accumulated, based on accumulation of concern we've had over these many weeks. >> let's talk about the information and concern.
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you made it clear these forces will not fight in cukraine. is the concern that this will spillover that putin will turn his aggressions to nato members or is this primarily about beefing up nato forces there to try to deter putin? >> it's difficult to know exactly what's in mr. putin's head. obviously we don't know and we don't think he's made a final decision one way or another with respect to military action in ukraine. but it is because he has shown no sign of deescalating that has led to concerns particularly on the flank bordering russia that that sort of prompted these decisions to move these forces. this is very much to your question, very much about deterring aggression against the nato alliance, but also shoring up our defenses on nato's eastern flank. mr. putin says he's concerned about nato on its eastern flank and his western flank. we, he's actually going to end up with that as a result by the uncertainty and the
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destabilizing activities that he's been causing. >> you mentioned the acute concern in nearby nato countries. does the u.s. share that concern, that fear that is romania? in potentially bulgaria? >> i don't know that i'd describe it as fear. we've had some pretty practical, pragmatic useful conversations with our nato allies, particularly those on the eastern flank. they're watching this with great concern as they should, but i don't know if i'd describe it as fear. what they do share is our concern over these increasing military capabilities that mr. putin has and what he might do with them. and so it's out of that mutual concern about what we're seeing him do and what're seeing him not do that's led to these decisions. >> ambassador thomas greenfield, u.s. ambassador to the united nations this week, detailed the increase in forces along the ukraine-russia border. the additional forces going into belarus. as well just north of ukraine,
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but wie heard from the white house that they will no longer describe potential invasion as imminent. even though we're seeing an increase in forces, why the rhetorical shift? >> well, i think there were some issues about how that word translates in ukraine literally. the bottom line is we believe that and you've heard secretary austin say this last week, we believe that he, putin, has a lot of military capability. he continues to add to his options and he could execute any number of options. pretty much on very short notice. so we're watching this seriously. we know that he's got capabilities. if he wants to invade again very, very soon, he could do that. our focus is on trying to make sure that diplomacy still has time and space and we believe it does, so that he doesn't make that kind of a decision and if he does, that we have in place both economic consequences for him and plans and ability to
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shore up nato's eastern flank. >> one more on the rhetoric then i want to move on. you said it's more about how that word translates in ukraine. we know the president zelensky asked to tone down the tomorrow is war talk. does that mean it's any less urgent than it was 24 hours ago? >> here at the pentagon, we watch this every single day and every single day, we see him add to his capability, his options. we're treating those additions with great concern and that's what led to these decisions to shore up nato's eastern flank and i think quite frankly, as we continue to watch this, we may make future decisions to add more forces. probably some coming from elsewhere in europe to nato's eastern flank. we're not going to close off that option. as for timing again, only mr. putin knows the timing an he has
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a chance to not execute on any time frame. whether it's near or far. he has a path to diplomacy. we've been serious about laying out diplomatic paths forward that we're willing to discuss with him and that's the preferred option. >> john kirby, thanks for your time. >> you bet, victor. now to this. whoopi goldberg suspended from the view despite apologizing for her holocaust remarks. so what her co-hosts are saying about this, next. move your student loan debt to sofi—you could save with low rates and no fees- and feel what it's like to get your money right.
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now so some big news involving us here at cnn. network president resigned today effective immediately. he failed to disclose a relationship with a colleague when it first started. >> jeff was a visionary leader for cnn during the last nine years of what can be called a challenging news cycle. bryan, it's a tough day here. >> it is. this is a huge surprise and leaves a leadership void that now the media is rushing to fill. here is the statement. he said as part of the investigation into chris cuomo tenure at cnn, i was asked about a close relationship with my
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colleague, someone i worked with for more than 20 years. i was required to disclose it when it began. i was wrong and as a result i'm resigning today. that relationship was with the chief marketing officer here at cnn. someone that worked with jeff for more than 20 years. here is the statement also acknowledging they didn't disclose the relationship at the outset. she says in the statement that i've worked and jeff and i have been close friends and partners. i regret we didn't disclose it at a right time and says she will remain at cnn and proud of the colleagues here at the network. this professional relationship that turned romantic was not disclosed at the outset and warner media has a clear policy says that sort of thing has to be disclosed. it's true for all employees. it happens in news rooms. you have an anchor and producer
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or two reporters who end up dating and they go to bosses and disclose it. because they did not disclose it, that zucker is out. he says he resigned. me sense from some sources is he was facing termination if he did not resign. he said to his leadership team he wanted to stay on for transition period to help make a smoother transition but warner media said no. you're out today. >> there are three co-heads of cnn as of today. these are all senior executives who have been running the network for years. entelis and jautz were here before zucker arrived. i think what you don't have, i think we all recognize this is
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zucker was larger than life leader. it's big news not just for cnn but the news industry. >> obviously, we know michael and amy and ken. we love them. we'll be in good hands. i want to say something personal for a moment. i feel it deeply personally but i think i speak for all of us in and our colleagues, this is an incredible loss. it's an incredible loss. jeff is a remarkable person and an incredible leader. he has this uncanny ability to make, i think, every one of us feel special and valuable in our own way even though he is managing an international news organization of thousands of people. i just know he had this unique ability to make us feel special. i don't think that comes around all the time and i think, again, it's an incredible loss. i just think it's so regrettable how it happened. if what you're reporting is true, these are two consenting
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adult who is are both executives. they can't have a private relationship feels wrong. >> i think there's two layers i would add to that. number one is the chris cuomo reference. he's not going out quietly. there were reports he was going to get paid the millions of dollars on the remainder of his contract. as a source said earlier today, he was trying to burn the place down. he was going to court trying to burn the place down and claiming he had incriminating information. if this is the case, this is a domino effect begins with andrew cuomo and chris cuom being fired. that's a remarkable domino even. i think that's part of the story.
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>> a clarity of vision for this network that will be missed. >> all right. brian, thanks so much. all right. abc news suspending whoopi goldberg over these remarks she made about the holocaust on monday's show. >> the holocaust isn't about race. >> no. >> maybe it is. >> it's not about race. it's not about race. >> what is it about? >> it's about man's inhumanity to man. >> goldberg has apologized but the network says her words were wrong and hurtful and they would like her to take time to reflect and learn about the impact of her comments.
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thank you so much for your time today. i said that the executives there wanted her to take some time. she's on a two-week suspension. considering her comments then the subsequent apology. do you think that suspensionirlg me on. i'm a child of holocaust survivors. my parents lost five children during that period. i think the real issue is not the length of the suspension, the sincerity of the apology. i think the question remains where do we go from here. how do we take a moment that's so controversial and turn it into something positive which means we should be advocating. she would be great advocate for mandatory holocaust education in our country. the death of holocaust ignorance
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is huge. we have failed in termed of providing young people and adults as well with an education that is necessary if we're going to combat the hateful challenges of our time. >> on that front, one of the things she later said was a teachable moment for her and rethinking, she said it on the late show with stephen colbert that she thought that race meant color. let me just play that for you. >> if the klan is coming down the street and i'm standing with a jewish friend and neither one of us -- well i'm going to run. if my friend decides not to run, they'll get passed by most times because you can't tell who is jewish. it's not something that people say, oh, that person i

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