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i'm jim sciutto. >> i'm bianna golodryga. "at this hour" with kate bolduan starts right now . new reports of how big the build-up at the ukraine border really is. lost and found. new reporting how donald trump mishandled even more white house documents than previously known and how the national archives got them back. peng shuai giving first interview. developments on the major moves to try to prevent war from breaking out in eastern europe. russian president vladimir putin and french president emmanuel macron meeting right now in moscow. both leaders plan to hold a
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press conference in the next hour. the latest u.s. intelligence assessment paint a dire picture that russia has 70% of the military capability necessary in place to launch a full scale invasion of ukraine. also that intelligence warning civilian casualties could run into the tens of thousands with up to 5 million refugees if that invasion goes forward. all of this coming out as president biden sits down with the new german chancellor at the white house this afternoon. we have every angle of this story for you. let's begin with cnn's nic robertson who's live in moscow for us. nic, what are you hearing about this face-to-face with putin and macron? >> we've seen them at the opposite ends of the long table. this has become normal for president putin meeting heads of state recently, most people at this socially distanced length. he actually, putin actually addressed macron in a friendly way. the russian language he used was very friendly, the tone was
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frie friendly. he appreciated macron coming this way, taking his time to try to address what they both see as, you know, an unbalanced security situation in europe. there was that part of the conversation. he said he appreciated president macron for his efforts to try to bring stability inside ukraine. macron, for his part, said he was there to talk about deescalation, deescalation between the ukrainian government and the pro russian separatists in the east but also deescalation of the russian forces that are moving and are getting closer to ukraine's border on the north. now, there's a lot more detail that's going to happen behind closed doors, but that first, those first few minutes, it was a lot of pleasantries, and both sort of thanking each other for taking the time on this difficult topic.
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>> nic, thank you so much for that. cnn learning new details this morning about russia's appetite for war with ukraine. indicating some russian officers are expressing doubt about a full scale invasion. cnn's alex marquardt covering this in kyiv with the latest. tell us more about what you're learning here. >> reporter: kate, the u.s. and others said if russia were to launch a wide scale invasion, it would be extremely bloody and horrific. one of the biggest questions is whether russian president vladimir putin has considered how his population would respond to what would be a very bloody campaign and where there would be significant losses of russian troops and now we are listelis learning, new reporting that russian intelligence intercepted communications involving russian military and intelligence officials that indicate they believe that an invasion would be costlier and more difficult than president putin and his
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kremlin inner circle imagine. that's according to new reporting and sources speaking to our colleagues jim sciutto, natasha bertrand, and katie bo lillis. within russia are not clear what the game plan is, that this is a very difficult game plan if we are indeed talking about a full scale invasion but kate, the biggest question is what is president putin's intent? officials in both the u.s. and don't know whether it would take a sliver of eastern ukraine or intends to launch a full scale invasion of ukraine, whether they would intend to hold it or intend to retreat. that is the major question. of course, kate, now we see a full diplomatic press to try to talk putin off the ledge and get him to resolve this diplomatically, kate?
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>> still, wait and see on that. great to see you, alex. thank you very much. in just hours, part of the e effort, the diplomatic effort alex was talking about, welcoming germany's new chancellor to the white house. an important new moment as he tries to project western unity. jeremy diamond live at the white house. what are you hearing about this meeting? >> well, listen, this is going to be a key effort in the u.s.'s push to try to put a united front against this russian aggression towards ukraine. germany, a key nato ally, the biggest european defense spender, they have appeared to be reluctant than most european allies in terms of confronting russia and providing nonlethal aid like helmets to the ukrainian forces and there's a big question over how eunited te response will be should they choose with ukraine. the german chancellor with "the
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washington post" made very clear he's on the same page with the u.s. about imposing a very high price for russia if it chooses to move forward with an invasion, but there are questions over this nord stream 2 pipeline, the german chancellor talking about strategic ambiguity going so far to say it would not happen but here's the adviser jay sullivan. >> if president biden's direction has been absolutely simply clear on this. if russia invades ukraine, one way or another, nord stream 2 will not move forward. >> reporter: from the national security adviser could not be any more clear, nord stream 2 will not move forward but russian chancellor has not gone that far and the robust sanctions package that would follow should indeed choose to invade ukraine. biden and scholz in preparation for a potential russian invasion of ukraine. >> hearing from them, the wording they used even is going
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to be important today. great to see you, jeremy. a lot coming from the white house. joining me with more on this, retired general and susan glasper. why does this meeting between biden and the new german chancellor so important when it comes to ukraine and russia in this moment? >> well, absolutely, kate. first of all, germany is the ma major player in central europe, not only nato but the european union has long been a key with the departure of angela merckel a huge trial by fire. come to meet with president biden today with long standing disagreements with the united states over nord stream 2. the u.s. from obama to trump to biden has opposed this pipeline but disagreeing over how much pressure to put on germanyab abt
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it. politically untenable in washington any further so i think what you're going to see is olaf scholz having to come to terms with the political reality. jake sullivan was clear on that, and one way or another, the u.s. made up its mind on nord stream 2. how are the germans going to make a face-saving acknowledgment of that reality? >> and in general, the french president is now seeming to step into the role that, for years, was the role, position and job of angela merckkel. face-to-face with 100,000 russian troops at the ukraine border. what is the best outcome from that meeting, do you think? >> good morning, kate. i think the fact that french president macron is meeting with president putin in russia is a good thing, because i think dialogue and diplomacy can help to deescalate the situation. over 100,000 troops, and some
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say it's as many as 130,000 troops amassed along the ukrainian border from russia as well as belarus. there's a good chance that russia could attack. could they take over all of ukraine? the answer is no. not with that small of a force. but they could hit and take over limited objectives like the capital of kyiv. having that kind of a dialogue to help deescalate is very, very important and there are some things that could be done. i mean, russia could accept a moratorium on ukraine's membership into nato. there could also be a multiyear discussion on civility in europe between nato, russia and the u.s. and also, to upgrade and update the 1975 helsinki agreements that could also help deescalate the situation. >> also, general, the intelligence assessments that are being reported out, i think, are fascinating, important and quite frankly, a little bit
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scary. the fact that u.s. officials tell cnn that putin assembled a way to describe it, 70% of the forces russia would need to mount a full scale invasion of ukraine and everyone still saying they don't know if putin has made up his mind, what his real intention is. what do you make of this intelligence assessment? >> i think the intelligence assessment is based on capabilities. and certainly, russia and the russian forces there had that capability. it's another thing though to actually do that. having commanded a multinational brigade in kosovo, american forces, polish, ukrainian and greek units. the russian soldiers were tough but the ukrainian soldiers were fierce and disciplined. it will be easy to get into a war with ukraine but it will be difficult to get out. >> that's an important message today for sure. susan, you talked about jake sullivan. i want to play for you how he,
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the president's national security adviser answered the question, is an invasion imminent? listen. >> we are in the window. any day now, russia could take military action against ukraine or it could be a couple of weeks from now or russia could choose to take the diplomatic path instead. >> that sounds a little bit like three different answers that jake is giving there. what is sullivan trying to say? >> well, i think what he's saying and what the u.s. government has been communicating both publicly and privately right now is that the capabilities have been moved into position and, you know, they are very much leaning into that saying not only is there no deescalation but essentially, this is a full scale invasion force. the recent assessment i heard suggests that they're having full capability for an invasion within a week and a half to two weeks, that they've moved to forward deployments that some of
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the troops who have been there actually moved to new field camps, that they're within maybe 30 kilometers of the border. so this is going to play itself out in some way, one way or the other. the hesitation there is because in this system in russia, putin remains the decider, which is why it's not entirely clear probably even to members of the russian military forces per your earlier reporting and this meeting with french president macron is interesting. there has not been a one on one meeting in person between putin and a major western leader like macron throughout this crisis. so i think, will it be at a minimum some interesting intelligence that comes out of this on the part of the french as to what putin is saying, what his mindset is right now, he's been very isolated. so i think that's quite interesting and significant. >> and general, president biden, he didn't answer our question yesterday of whether he's considering sending more u.s. troops to eastern europe. in light of the new intelligence assessment, i'm curious if you
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think more troops should be deployed before an invasion? >> well, certainly to bolster up nato's eastern flank in countries like romania and poland and the baltic republic. it helps settle our nato allies as well but no doubt, there's a lot of pride in ukraine. i was in ukraine a couple of years ago meeting with the ministry of defense, former president lou ushenko. it's slow and imperfect but ukraine is forming after 30 yris of independence from the soviet union their own national identity and president putin fears that, as an autocrat. >> general, it's always great to have you. susan, thank you so much. it's great to see you.
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quick programming note. jake tapper sitting down interviewing germany's new chancellor after his meeting with president biden. that is live at 4:00 p.m. eastern today on "the lead." you don't want to miss that. also coming up, peng shuai sits down for a new interview with a big career announcement. why it's also raising more questions about her safety. next.
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peng shuai said it would be practically impossible to return to her sport and announce she's retiring. this came in a controlled interview with french newspaper since she made the first with the western media outlet after
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she make allegations of sexual assault against a top official. peng shuai said the whole thick thing is a misunderstanding in front of the chinese olympic official which is not tamping down concern. sports analyst christine brennan and patrick mcenroe and also an espn commentator. christine, let's start with you. what do you make of this interview with peng shuai? >> so concerning and disappointing. the olympic committee has not done anything about what's right and the facts, the story, the world's biggest me too story and the ioc consistently ignored that piece. i even asked the ioc president thomas bach in a president here in beijing and why won't he speak, if peng shuai wants an
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inquiry, we'll be for that. it's not her call. she's not in charge, they are and to me, this whole story over the last 12, 24 hours just solidifies the fact that the ioc is in bed with the chinese, they're business partners, thomas bach in the bag for china and i don't think they really care other than just to whitewash this to make this like go away so they can enjoy their olympics and make their money, and it is infur riatinfuri embarrassinge and a debacle, an i think history will judge this poorly. >> patrick, the fact she's now retiring, what does that do to the entire conversation now? >> first of all, the fact she's retiring, we predicted this two months ago. this is all part of the plan from the chinese government for her to announce herself that she's retiring. we saw this coming two months ago, so the chinese system is, as christine rightly said, is
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controlling her right down to everything matters in what we've seen happen so far, even what she was wearing in the interview, a jacket of china, sort of an olympic jacket. she's done that in both of her stage public appearances. the ball now, kate, is back in the court of the wta and as christine has said throughout this whole thing, they're the only ones that have shown real guts throughout this whole process, but they're being squeezed now by the chinese government. the ioc, as christine rightly said, they're in bed with the chinese government, playing ball. now up to the wta to hold firm and not go back to china. if they go back to china with their tournaments, of course, which they have many of them over the last years and supposed to have a lot more, they're going into the tiger's den because china will eat them alive. the only recourse now for the wta and i hope they do this, kate, is stay strong and don't go back to china for professional tennis tournaments. >> look, christine, could this
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be a tipping point or a watershed moment because you guys are right, the wta is the only one who has stood up in this entire thing. >> absolutely, kate. i mean, a master class in leadership. not just sports leadership but humanitarian leadership, as patrick has said. obviously, all these many weeks now we've been talking about this very sad and difficult story and, you know, i think there's a positive here. always trying to look for a positive. the spotlight is shining very brightly on china because the olympics are here, so be careful what you wish for, here we are. and we're talking about this and we're here and we're not going to let it go and we're not buying the ioc's story. they want it to go away. these are the royals and the faux royals and the lords of the rings and they think that, you know, they can control everything. well, this time, not so much. and i think it is shocked the living daylights out of them. talked to some of their people, we're not getting it. they're not going along with
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them, the story line and their ability to control the world and whatever they want to do. they can't in this case. we're pushing back, patrick, obviously you've been amazing on this to talk about this, to shine a light on this. the spotlight is bright because the olympics are here right now and because of this story and it's not going away and hopefully the wta stands firm and does not come back to china and i think public opinion will be with the wta on that. >> let's focus on the gapes so far games so far, mikaela shiffrin crashes on opening run in giant slalom. the way she put it and broke my heart, she said i won't get over this. there is such great expectation for her defending her title. what do you see here and how does this speak to the pressure these athletes are under in this time? >> first of all, you're exactly right, kate. i loved her interview that she gave after the disappointment. she shared that with everyone but said, listen, i've got to put this behind me. she's got four races left to
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slalom, expected to win that medal there but listen, 229 races in olympics world cup and world championship, only skied, had this kind of accident 14 times throughout her career. but i think she'll come back, even though the conditions for her in the giant slalom last time were pefrfect. clear, sunny but skiing in china is all manmade. not real snow, so very icy and steep at the beginning of the race. she said, look, i went for it. that was my attitude, to go for it. let's hope she can go for it and get it in these other races and i'm sure she will. >> don't hold back, let it rip. that's what the olympic games are about. and the covid restrictions to add to this pressure and the unusual nature of the games, but then turn to figure skating. something you know so much about. some real highs and also some real lows there. what's your assessment of how things are going so far for the
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u.s.? >> that's great. the u.s. certainly doesn't have a gold medal yet and it's been a few days of the u.s., three silver medals, not terrible. but i think one of the stories that kind of shows exactly what's going on, what you were alluding to. so one of the americans who won the silver medal in the team figure skating competition, young man named vincent zhou, the day he wins the silver medal, tests positive for covid and can't be on the victory ceremony, not able to be in the medal ceremony. if that doesn't capture the highs and lows, the notion at this great moment for him, this young man not only doesn't get a chance to celebrate the silver medal with everyone else, with his teammates but also, he was going to be in the men's competition with nathan chen, the gold medal favorite, the american and now vincent zhou in isolation, because of the positive test and he's been so
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careful. he's been alone and it's been difficult for him to be, the precautions he took, and even so, he got covid here inside the bubble. it's really one of those bittersweet days for the americans, for him, but the games go on and the story lines as well. >> games go on. great to see you both, thank you. coming up for us, "the washington post" reporting former president trump took boxes of records from the white house. new details on how the national archives got them back. ta do it. [limu emu squawks] woo! new personal record, limu! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty. ♪ 80% get genetically meaningful health info from their 23andme dna reports. 80%. that's 8 out of 10 people who can get something enlightening. something empowering. something that could change everything. info that could give you greater control of your own health, and it's right there in your dna.
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breaking news now on the pandemic. more signs the country is pushing to get back to normal. new jersey governor phil murphy will announce today that the state's school mask mandate will end beginning next month. the change comes as new covid cases are dropping dramatically in the state. down about 90% from the omicron peak last month. delaware also announced today that its school mask mandate will end next month. even as more states start to return to normal, the u.s. is marking a grim milestone. tonight, members of congress gathering on the capitol steps for a moment of silence to
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commemorate the more than 900,000 americans who have died from coronavirus and that death toll continues to climb. for the past two weeks, the u.s. has reported more than 2,000 covid deaths every day. developing this morning, multiple boxes of white house documents are now back safely with the national archives. this is after "the washington post" reports that donald trump took the records on his way out the door. something, by law, he never should have done, but the hunt for these records leading all the way to trump's florida golf club. cnn's whitney wild tracking this. she joins me now. whitney, what is going on here? >> reporter: the national archives had to actually go down physically to retrieve these document from the former president's resort in florida to get these critical documents and kate, this is just one more example in a list of examples that show members of the trump white house sidestepping this very real legal obligation to preserve records. for example, last week, cnn reported that the national archives handed over to the
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january 6th house select committee, records that had been taped back together because during the trump administration, according to the national archives, trump himself ripped up document and then some staffer had to come in with tape and put it all back together and again, just another example of the ways in which the trump administration, again, abated this legal obligation to provide records. meanwhile, members of the republican party criticized people like hillary clinton for using a private email server. so this hypocrisy here certainly at play, now we're learning, again, the great lengths that the national archives has to physically get these papers out of the former president's grip. >> is it clear, it says multiple boxes but is it clear what kind of documents we're talking about that he took down to florida? >> the according to "the washington post," these are letters that would be between the former president and world leaders like kim jong-un. the love letters, if you remember trump saying that, they
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fell in love. there were these love letters between two world leaders. that's an example of something that would have been in these documents that were then, i guess, handed back over to the national archives. another example is a letter that was left for his successor, president barack obama. these examples are critical, kate, because the presidential records act stiplawulates that have to preserve memos, notes. these are not meant to fill your scrapbook of what it was like, your time in the white house. these are presidential records that are supposed to be handed over to the national archives. an example that did not happen here. back to you. >> whitney, thank you so much. coming up for us, unruly passengers causing chaos in the skies still now. one ceo wants the justice department to step in to take greater action. i'll talk to transportation secretary pete buttigieg about it next. jamaica. heartbeat of the world. let's go!
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and this just in. a mega merger. two of america's most popular low fare airlines are becoming one. frontier and spirit airlines announcing a $6.6 billion merger this morning. the new company, which is not yet been nomiamed, would be the fifth largest airline if approved serving 145
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destinations and over a thousand flights a day. more to come on that. but there's also this. unruly passengers. they are being booted from flights in record numbers. the faa says 2021 was the worst year for passengers acting out in flights in the united states. it is incidents like those which have delta's ceo now pleading with the biden administration for more help and in a letter he wrote to the attorney general, this in part. we are requesting you support our efforts with respect to the much needed step of putting any person on board disruption on national comprehensive unruly passenger no fly list that would bar that person from traveling on any commercial air carrier. joining me now for this and more is transportation secretary pete buttigieg. secretary, thank you for being here. you've talked about this in the past. should this happen, a no fly list for unruly passengers? >> i think we need to take a
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look at it. the airlines are often doing their own internal no fly list. some of them have spoken about maybe coordinating on that and we look at these policy recommendations as well. not that we're waiting for that in order to take action. the faa has a zero tolerance policy. fines have been increased, enforcement increased. we've seen some encouraging news in terms of downward trends and unruly incidents but let's be clear, this is an unacceptable rate. anything but zero is an unacceptable rate. if you're on an on board aircraft, i can't believe we have to say but listen to what flight crews say and you need to act in a way that is safe, not disruptive, toward flight crews and fellow passengers. they say when you buckle up your seat belt, you hear it on the p.a. system in the plane, they are there primarily for your safety and it is a safety concern when anybody is acting up on an airplane. >> i think people see these
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incidents, see these horrible videos and see how people have kind of lost it on board flights over masks and such and people wonder, why hasn't in broad comprehensive no fly list for unruly passengers been put in place yet? airlines have been talking about. they say they need help to do it. is there even an argument against it, secretary? >> well, there is a terrorist no fly-list. that was a big challenge to implement and not something that you do lightly but i think we need to look at every policy that can help here because it's simply unacceptable for flight crews or for that matter, fellow passengers to have to deal with this and we support the steps airlines are taking and have their back with faa enforcement that's coming down hard on people who are being found to have committed these kinds of disruptive incidents. >> bastian is reaching out to merrick garland for help. he's not writing the letter just
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for fun. is there one thing that's standing in the way of this getting up implemented? something more complicated that people don't understand? >> well, obviously, there are enormous implications in terms of civil liberties, in terms of how you administer something like that. even over terrorism, it was not a simple thing to set up. none of these things can be done needs to be looked at in a moment like this and clearly something deeper going on in our society that makes anybody think that it's acceptable to behave this way. you shouldn't behave this way on an airplane, or on the ground either but air travel, a unique risk and important we back up flight attendants and flight crews that are essential workers. they have been getting our travel and transportation sector through this pandemic. they deserve respect. they deserve support and of course, they deserve better than some of what we're seeing happening in our skies.
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>> another major issue under your watch is the country's roads and bridges. a report out last week really caught my attention when it said that more than one in three bridges in the u.s. are in need of major repair work or replacement and also, that's an improvement actually from the year prior which i think is the scariest part. is there enough money in the infrastructure package to take care of all that? >> well, i'll tell you, even with the federal dollars we have, we're going to have to partner up with state and local efforts but we have the resources to do that. this is what it looks like when you go 20, 30, 40 years without investing enough in u.s. infrastructure. that has very real specific consequences and i think that's one of the reasons why in a very divided washington, you saw a lot of republicans cross over to join the president, join democrats and get this infrastructure bill done. we have already started putting out the funding to get these bridges repaired and it's not
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just the big bridges that get a lot of attention but sometimes it's a rural bridge that may seem small but it's not a small thing in your commute or in your life. if a bridge goes out or has to be closed because of safety restrictions and go half an hour out of your way, it's not just a matter of convenience either but a supply chain issue. you don't even have to drive to be affected by it because groceries cost more to get where they need to be without the network. we've got resources to improve or upgrade or fix up to 15,000 bridges in the country, and where there used to be a federal local share, we've been able to cover 100% of them in a lot of these cases where local communities found even doing the 20% they were supposed to was a barrier to thicngs getting done. to put it simply, a historic opportunity to make these kind of repairs and not a moment to lose because they've been building up for so long.
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>> look no further than pittsburgh when you think about that. i want to ask you, senator joe manchin said on cnn very clearly yesterday on the build back better bill, that bill will no longer exist is how he put it. you have been very outspoken and you've called the outlines of this package good policy that has to get done. how much harder did that just become with joe manchin making clear that the negotiation is dead? >> well, look. we're continuing to work to make sure that we put together the best, strongest policy that can get 50 votes in the senate and i believe that we can do something big here. >> you do still. even with that. >> we're lowering prescription drugs. yeah, absolutely. we don't know exactly what the name will be, what the vehicle will be or what all pieces will be but we know we've got to do something to lower costs for americans, especially when you look at the continued concerns we have around inflation. so the president's proposals,
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which economists have said, we will lower inflationary pressures, making it easier to afford child care, prescription drugs, insulin. i don't think many people are against making it more affordable in this country, obviously, i'm a big believer in making electric vehicles more affordable. more rural drivers can get in on the gas savings. and all of these things the president put forward and exactly what package of them can win 50 votes and advance in the senate, that's what has to be worked out in the days ahead but there's no question on health care, climate, child care, we've got to act and i think that majority is there. definitely there among the american people. we've just got to get it there in the senate. >> days, more like weeks and months ahead with the way it's going in congress but regardless, secretary, thank you for coming? >> thank you for having me. good to see you. >> really appreciate it. good to see you. joe rogan apologizing again as dozens of episodes of his podcast taken down from spotify.
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spotify is standing by joe rogan as the popular podcaster is again at the center of controversy. the streaming service removed dozens of his episodes over his past use of racial slurs. rogan, now responding himself after this video caught fire. >> you know, the [ bleep ]. >> yeah, saying the word [ bleep ]. >> i already said [ bleep ]. >> [ bleep ]. >> he's calling you [ bleep ] p. he's a [ bleep ] and starts calling him [ bleep ]. >> there should be a word like
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[ bleep ], especially like the word [ bleep ]. >> he said [ bleep ]. and then [ bleep ] starts saying -- >> take out the word [ bleep ]. >> couldn't say [ bleep ]. >> that is a lot. cnn's brian stelter joins me now. what is the latest with this? >> that's right. this compilation made by a liberal critic of rogan published online catching fire on social media this weekend. rogan then apologizing and the question was, what would spotify do? overnight we heard from spotify's ceo for the first time. he said he's standing by rogan. he denounced the use of that racial epithet in the past but said i strongly condemn what joe has said and agree with his decision to remove past episodes from our platform. i realize some will want more. he's not doing more. he said we should have clear lines around content and take action when they are crossed but canceling voices is a slippery slope. this isn't about canceling voices. this is about what the rules of the road are in corporate
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america. normally we've seen this story before. where a big company faces a situation like this and they usually sever ties with someone like rogan. spotify not doing so. the question now is whether we'll see more artists, subscribers cancel, whether more pressure will come on spotify. this right wing service rumble which wants to present itself as an alternative to other big tech platforms has come out saying, rogan come join us. we'll pay you $100 million. not sure if that's a plausible claim or not but it's the splintering of the internet that's happening in many ways. two versions of the internet and we'll see if rogan is on spotify or leaves for another platform. >> and so you set the stage for the next chapter. good to see you, brian. thank you very much. to minnesota now. the state taking a fresh look at its no-knock warrant policies after a deadly police shooting last week. police body camera video captures officers entering an apartment where 22-year-old amir locke appears to be asleep. and police fire multiple times at him when they see a gun.
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but it is important to note that locke was not a target of the warrant. adrienne broaddus has been following all the details. what is happening now with these no-knock warrants? >> good morning to you. for now, the city's mayor jacob frey has initiated a delay on the execution and request of no-knock warrants in minneapolis. and later today, an arm of the city council, its government oversight will hold a discussion on the no-knock policies. over the weekend we saw demonstrators take the streets of minneapolis protesting, calling for change. even governor walz commented speaking to our affiliate in minneapolis calling these policies dangerous. he said in part, i'm sorry it took this tragedy but there are voices now across the political spectrum that see these policies as dangerous. the governor saying the state
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needs to examine the policies and look at some of the best practices. a big question a lot of people have at this hour is will there be change at the state level? meanwhile, the family of 22-year-old amir locke are vowing for justice. kate? >> adrienne, thank you for that. much more to come from minneapolis, minnesota. and thank you all for being with us at this hour. i'm kate bolduan. "inside politics" with john king starts after a quick break. i brought in ensure max protein, with thirty grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks! (sighs wearily) here i'll take that! (excited yell) woo-hoo! ensure max protein. with thirty grams of protein, one gram of sugar, and nutrients to support immune health. [zoom call] ...pivot... work bye. vacation hi! book with priceline. 'cause when you save more, you can “no way!” more. no wayyyy. no waaayyy! no way! [phone ringing]
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