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it's the top of the hour. victor is off today.
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after the convoy shut down part of a major international crossing known as the ambassador bridge, the bridge carries 25% of all trade between the u.s. and canada. it is causing disruptions affecting everything from car parts to food to medicine. now michigan's governor is calling on the canadian government to step in. she said in a statement today, quote, the blockade is having an impact on michigan families who are just trying to do their jobs, end quote. all of this as the department of homeland security is warning similar protests could begin here in the u.s., and they may try to disrupt the super bowl. from sofi stadium in los angeles, what are you hearing about what could happen? >> reporter: we know there are these online forums calling for
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truckers to come here to los angeles to protest, and that's what's catching the attention of authorities and that's why you're seeing that bulletin from the department of homeland security and, of course, we all know traffic in los angeles is horrible. you add in the tourists and a possible convoy of truckers and that's a recipe for disaster. that's why there are some concerns. that bulletin from dhs saying there is the potential for severely disrupting transportation, federal government, commercial t facilities because of the gridlock and possible counterprotests, you have to keep in mind even though they're not expecting violence here this could create a lot of tension because people are extremely passionate about the issue. you will see people for and against the vaccines and what is what is concerning here because the gridlock can be really bad especially on super bowl sunday. now we do know local authorities have been working with the federal government tore more
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than a year. they say they have things under control and we're expecting many, many law enforcement officers from all sorts of departments including from the department of homeland security, but they say this is not over when the super bowl is over. all of these truckers could head to washington, d.c., and that would be to make it there in time for the state of the union address on march 1st. so that's the concern here. we did hear from the head of the american trucking association, and he says he opposes any sort of protest that creates all of these disruptions. of course everybody hoping things go on as planned when it comes to the super bowl. we know this kind of event is, of course, a target for terrorism as well. authorities saying they don't have any credible or any threats at the moment they're concerned about. everyone hoping things run smoothly this weekend. alisyn? >> camila, thank you for the
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update. turning to the crisis in ukraine, the west is accusing moscow of escalating tensions after a series of military exercises in belarus just a short time ago. in response to these tensions, the u.s. is increasing its naval presence. cnn has the latest from the pentagon. a lot of moving parts. a lot of tension. what are you hearing this hour? >> reporter: alisyn, let's look at this one piece at a time. russian exercises with belarus and the buildup of forces there. the nato secretary-general says there are some 30,000 russian troops in belarus and that includes the array of forces from special operations forces, fighter jets, ground attack aircraft and antiaircraft missiles. the concern is if russian president vladimir putin makes the decision to invade, this is one more part that is surrounded. there are russian forces near the eastern border, russian forces in occupied crimea and now russian forces in belarus in
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very large numbers conducting exercises that are supposed to go from now until february 20th. they are not only right on ukraine's border but only 50 miles from kyiv, the capital. if putin decides to go for an all out invision it is not a large distance. we've talked about us us forces going into eastern europe and thousands of troops over the course of the next couple of days in addition to tens of thousands of troops in europe and we've learned the navy is sending four destroyers into the atlantic and mediterranean. one is operating in the mediterranean all a sign to putin warning him, first, against conducting an operation and invading ukraine but a message and a show of deterrence from putin.
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what sensigns are they looking ? there's no one single answer that is the trip wire. but warning signs could include an increase in russian cyber attacks against ukraine. we've already seen some cyber attacks against ukraine, but this would be on another level, information warfare from russian state-run media outlets, and a firing range. all could be signs that an invasion is coming but it's not definitive. >> thank you very much for the update and the reporting. new revelations about the trump administration's record keeping or their flushing away of norms. the committee investigating january 6 wants because call records from that day but sources tell cnn the logs to and from the president though it is widely reported trump did speak
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with a few lawmakers during the attack and the story of documents flushed down the toilet. a former deputy assistant general, also with us cnn chief political analyst gloria borger. harry, how can there be no call logs of the phone calls that day? we already know people were trying to call the president and say do something, there's a horrible attack at the capitol. you need to get in front of a camera. we know this. so where are the call logs? >> it's inconceivable he wasn't on the phone all the time. it's probably on his personal cell phone. they need to log it anyway. how could it be? maybe with the destroyed records there was some order given not to keep logs. he went to the residence and had a close hold on who attended, so the most obvious explanation,
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don't know it yet, is that he kept them from being prepared. >> gloria, you'll remember donald trump when he was running for president was so outraged that anybody would ever use personal email like hillary clinton and what were they hiding? if you used something that wasn't disclosed, what on earth were you trying to hide? let me play that for people who have forgotten. >> people who have nothing to hide don't smash phones with hammers. they don't. people who have nothing to hide don't bleach -- nobody has ever heard of it -- bleach emails or destroy evidence to keep it from being publicly archived as required under federal law. >> and people who have nothing to hide don't flush documents down the toilet. i think that's another life rule number one. as you know, maggie haberman of "the new york times" has new reporting in her book, i learned
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the staff and the white house residence would periodically find the toilet clogged. the engineer would have to come and fix it. and what the engineer would find would be wads of clumped up wet printed paper meaning it was not toilet paper. this was either notes or some other piece of paper that they believe he had thrown down the toilet. i mean, i don't even know where to begin, gloria. it's taking all of my strength not to make some joke right now but i will attempt to be above that. >> let's think of the context here, a president who is always very paranoid about he knew if he was making calls from the oval office there were people listening in as he discovered belatedly probably during a phone call with zelensky of ukraine and he wanted to have private conversations. so i've been told by people who work in the white house the president just didn't like to have conversations with people he knew would disagree with him. and that day there were people calling other people's cell
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phones, as we know, who were trying to get through to the president, including his own son, donald trump jr., who had to then text mark meadows and say would you tell my father this. would you tell my father that. i think donald trump was not eager to get on the phone with anyone. who knows if anything was destroyed or not destroyed. the explanation given to me in my reporting by people who worked there was he didn't want to get on the phone with anybody and the way he usually handled it if somebody called, say, mark meadows or something and wanted to talk to the president, maybe the president would pick up that phone. so it's complicated, but he was so glued to what was going on on his television set that day and he knew that there was a lot of disapproval around him that there's just a chance he didn't want to hear it because he was enjoying it so much. >> harry, is flushing documents down the toilet a crime?
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but, before you answer that, let me just also say that donald trump denies that this happened. but what we do know was true is that he did take 15 boxes of important historical presidential documents to mar-a-lago. we know that because they had to go be retrieved by the national archives and that point is not disputed. absconding with historical documents that belong to the white house and the american people, surely that's a crime of some kind, but you tell me. >> yeah, but nothing like the flushing down the toilet. jokes aside, why do you flush things down the toilet? that's how you get rid of contraband. and from a prosecutor's point of view, alisyn, this is an easy and terrific case. you don't need mark meadows to turn. you have 12 witnesses on the committee who says he was doing this regularly and routinely. another trump toilet incident on three. bring in the rubber gloves. and you have documents returned
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that were like pieces of confetti that they had to tape up. you had people telling him, you know, you can't do this. there's a high intent -- to answer your question, it is a crime. not the presidential records act, is sort of an honor system, so that means nothing to trump, but there's a separate provision from the 19th century, 18 usc, willfully wants to destroy the documents of course he does. and you have all kinds of witnesses to that effect. toilet or no toilet you have him tearing things up, people having to tape it back together. is it a crime? yes, it's an easily provable crime moreover. >> why is there a question about whether the department of justice will move forward with this? >> well, look, we don't know, but it feels a little technical. on the other, i think it encapsulate the worst two elements of the trump presidency
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which is thinking these records which belong to the people are his own. and the whole presidency is his own and want to go obstruct everything. even though it feels like papers, give me a break, it is, i think, a righteous case. this is just beginning to pour out all the evidence of this. >> so are you saying you don't have to know exactly what he was flushing down the toilet? that it doesn't matter? that he did it is enough? >> as long as they are public records, gloria, and we know almost anything is a public record, a file or whatever, and toilet aside, we have him tearing things in half. no doubt they were public records. the short answer is, yes, we don't have to know exactly. we know his purpose in doing it was to destroy them not a fit of pique or just a habit. >> right, and what are you
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trying to hide? harry litman, gloria borger thank you. when will there be a reprieve for your wallet, and what action will the fed take next? bob saget's family reveals surprising details about how the beloved actor died. we have their warning ahead. what happens when we welcome change? we can transform our workforce overnight out of convenience, or necessity. we can explore unchararted waters, and not ononly make new discoveries, but get there faster, with better outcomes. with app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions, vmware helps companies navigate change-- meeting them where they are, and getting them where they want to be. faster. vmware. welcome change. ♪ ♪ feel stuck with student loan debt?
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this month. just today maryland's government asked the state board of end to lift restrictions there and nevada's governor just ended his state's mask mandate, quote, effective immediately. but the cdc says it's still too soon. what do teachers and doctors think? let's discuss it. randy weingarten is the president of the american federation of teachers and the dean of the college of public health nebraska medical center. great to see both of you. randy, massachusetts and connecticut and nevada all lifting masks for students and in schools. nevada is today, the other two at the end of the month. how do you feel about that? >> you could see why teachers and parents and others would be confused about how the cdc is saying one thing and now you have a whole second set of governors saying a whole different thing.
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what we did is three months ago in november since we support off ramps for masking, we know that masks impede learning. we know masks were there for the safety of our kids, our communities and ourselves. so what i did was in november pre-omicron, i asked the cdc, dr. walensky and dr. coardona, could you give us and figure out a science-based metric or an off ramp for masking. >> and did you get that? >> no, never. and the dilemma is now that today, for example -- i have two op-eds on my desk. one that says we must unmask now. masks don't work and the other
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that says don't do it right now. that's why teachers and many parents are just saying to scientists and government officials let this be formed by science and safety, not by politics. and i think i'm just going to lift up the one governor who i think is doing it absolutely the right way was governor hochul in new york. she lifted the adult mask mandate effective immediately, like the nevada governor did, but she said when it comes to, you know, students in schools and other congregate settings and transportation, she listed the four or five different things they're looking at so we all know it with a goal towards doing -- that lifting this mandate by the end of february, the beginning of march. the last thing i will say is this, this is good news. i know it's confusing right now, but the good news is that omicron is really going down, and the good news is we have enough people vaccinated and
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enough people boosted that you can see a path to normalcy. and i don't want the lead to be kind of hidden in the midst of this confusion. >> yeah. i hear you. i think that's a great point. i think people are starting to exhale, totally, and i think we are seeing a light at the end of the tunnel. in the meantime, doctor, do you think it's too soon, and what metric would you use? >> thank you, alisyn. it's not too soon. it just depends where you are. we need to admit it's not a national outbreak, it's a local and state outbreak. locally if you have no outbreaks in school, absenteeism isn't a problem for teachers and bus drivers and kids, hospitals are not under threat, then it's very appropriate at a local level to make that decision based on a couple of these metrics. >> yeah, but dr. khan, i want to
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show you a couple of metrics. there haven't been outbreaks in schools for the most part. i think it's safe to say schools have been safe. and then when you look at what's happening in nevada, i'll pull up that map, cases have plummeted since just a few weeks ago. you see that exact same graph in massachusetts. you see the exact same pattern in connecticut. so should we be looking at cases? should we be looking at hospitalizations? should we be looking at transmission level? what is the metric that schools should be using regardless of where you are in the country? >> schools have been safe because of masks. let's be very clear about that. masks work. in addition obviously to vaccinating teachers and students and staff and social distancing and ventilation. so that's why schools have been safe and we need to continue and maintain them being safe. cases are no longer a good measure of what's going on in the community anymore. too much testing is done outside of a health care setting and
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within home settings. so the better metrics are, and, again, why there's not necessarily one answer but how you need to look at what's going on in your community, many communities where kids don't go to school because there are too many teachers out and they can't get enough substitutes, places they can't get the bus drivers to get the kids to school. you have to look at absenteeism, at what's going on in the health care system, at what's going on in the community. once again we want adults to be responsible, 20% of adults have not yet been vaccinated. we want adults to be responsible, to drive down disease in their communities so kids can go back to school without masks. >> guys, we're out of time, but, dr. khan, if massks go away, wht are you going to do with your treasure-trove of masks, the collection you have shown us? >> get boosted! >> i knew -- i knew you would have a surprise for us and you
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always deliver. randi, dr. khan, thank you both very much. great to talk to you. >> thank you. >> always a pleasure, thank you. a key measure reveals inflation has leaped to a high not seen in nearly 40 years. what this means for you and what's going to happen next. ss . ...i'm feeling a little lost. quickbooks can help.p. an easy way to get paiaid, pay your staff, and d know where your business s stands. new business? nono problem. success starts with intuit quickbooks. we need to reduce plastic waste in the environment.
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no doubt you've been hit
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with sticker shock at the grocery check-out, at the gas pump, if you've tried to buy a piece of furniture lately. almost everything cost as lot more. and today we got some numbers that put that in stark relief. over the past 12 months inflation in the u.s. soared to its highest level in 40 years. driving consumer prices 7.5% higher than the same time last year. that's the steepest annual hike since 1982. cnn business reporter matt egan joins us to break down the new inflation numbers. now was this a surprise how high these are? >> reporter: we knew inflation was high. today we found out it's getting worse and that means your paycheck is not going as far as it used to. the 7.5 jump in consumer prices is an acceleration from 7% in december. it's going in the wrong direction n. may inflation was at 5:00. we thought that was bad. it's way above that now. there was an expectation that month over month that might happen.
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you can see for a very long time inflation was very low. as can you see on the right the chart shows prices are going basically straight up. the last time we saw a number like this was 1982, a long time ago. "e.t." was the top movie then. i was not alive yet. >> that tells me a lot. >> if i was, i would have been looking at the inflation report, of course. what's startling about the report it shows inflation is really widespread. we saw record price spikes on new cars and trucks, fresh fish, restaurant meals, appliances, furniture prices up 17%. new cars and trucks up, and that was before these disruptions being caused by the protests on the border with canada. we have to put this into context, a lot of positives, gdp was up by the most last year since 1984. unemployment down to 4% but, alisyn, the high cost of living continues to be a sore spot. >> does this change the fed's plan? >> it might. there's a growing sense that the fed is late, that it was slow to
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acknowledge inflation wasn't going to be transitory, it was slow to shift into inflation fighting mode. now the fed has to catch up. there's a growing expectation on wall street the fed will have to raise interest rates multiple times. the debate was maybe two times, three times, now the debate is four, five, six, maybe seven times. there's even -- investors are starting to price in the growing chance the fed may raise interest rates by half a percentage point in march's meeting. we haven't seen that, anything like that, since the year 2000. it would be a way for the fed to show it really means business on inflation. this is not sitting well with investors, though. the dow is down sharply today. now down 540 points, 1.5%. rock bottom interest rates were great for the stock market, forced people to bet on stocks. higher rates will be a challenge and we could see some more turbulence in the stock market going forward. >> matt, thank you very much for all of that. i will take to you see "e.t." at
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some point. >> please do. let's discuss all of this with austan. in december president biden said he felt that inflation was at its peak. that was wrong. today we got these incredibly striking numbers. is there a way to know when inflation will be at its peak and when do you think that is? >> well, there is one sense in which the way we quote inflation is different than the way we quote jobs numbers which is you get one month of new inflation and you staple it to the previous 11 months of inflation. the month to month is still high but it didn't go up from last month. it's just remained at this high level. >> oh, i thought it went from 7%
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to 7.5%. >> that's how you know when you're at the peak. they'll start coming down. >> when will that happen? >> the side that thinks this is mostly coming from supply chain interruptions and the people who think this is from too much demand says when the fed tightens interest rates and by how much. hopefully over this year. if you think that everybody starts expecting that inflation is going to stay at these kind of rates, then it can be very hard to get out of that chain. you get in a spiral. so far the markets don't seem to show that and the market measures of inflation expectations, it looks like they think within a few years we will be back to 2%. now we're trying to figure out
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who is right. some people think it's going away and some people think it will last and the economic timetable that says let's wait and figure out who is right, that doesn't comporf for the white house with the political timetable people are getting madder and madder. >> senator manchin was saying this is the reason he wouldn't support a big program. our $30 trillion in national debt continue at a historic climb. only in washington, d.c., do people seem to think spending trillions more of taxpayers' money will cure our problems let alone inflation. what do you think of that? >> it's build back later or build back never at this point. i wasn't a unanimous fan of evaluating the build back better policies by their impact because
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i think it was mostly irrelevant, up or down because it was almost entirely paid for and it was spread out over ten years. this is a matter that would be from things that aren't paid for and whatever happens in the next 12 months. >> this is an aside but i wonder what you think. that big trucker blockade on the bridge between michigan and canada, that is impacting the supply chain. do you think that is -- what do you think the impact of that is? many people see it as a protest about vaccines but it seems the ripple effect is so much bigger in terms of the economy and jobs and everything. >> yeah, look, it could be bigger. and people will have to drive around different ways. that's not like what happened though there has been some relief. in an environment where there
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was a shift to buying goods and not services -- a bunch of services shut down because of the virus, the supply changes could not handle such an increase in demand and 90% of what we buy, physical goods we buy come here via ships and then they get put on trucks and trains. if they block that, a lot of the pinch points on the supply chain, you will see that show up. that's not in these numbers because these predate that. the more you see of things like that, the more headache. >> i really appreciate getting your analysis. okay, so moments ago iconic hip-hop artists performing in the super bowl halftime show called out the nfl for not embracing the musical genre until now. we'll tell you what they said next.
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the musical megastars playing the super bowl halftime show are sending a message to the nfl. dr. dre, mary j. blige and snoop dogg talked to reporters today and said it's long pastime for the nfl to have hip-hop center stage at the super bowl. chloe, does this tell us anything about what their performances will be like at the super bowl? >> well, alisyn, dr. dre, snoop and mary j. said this is going to be unlike anything we all have ever seen and they're so happy that hip-hop is finally going to take center stage, and they really had strong words for the nfl saying that it's long overdue. take a listen.
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>> we're going to open more doors for hip-hop artists in the future and making sure the nfl understands when is what it should have been a long time ago. it's the biggest genre on the planet right now. it's crazy that it took all of this and all of this time for us to be recognized, you know. so i think we're going to go on and do a fantastic show and we're going to do it so big that they can't deny us any more in the future. >> reporter: alisyn, if you look at the last ten years the performers at the super bowl halftime show, sure, you have had travis scott take the stage but not as the main performers. they have been guests of other performers, whether they're pop stars or rock musicians, but they have not ever had headliners from the hip-hop genre and that is what they are
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saying and this comes in the midst of this racial reckoning within the nfl when it comes to the miami dolphins, brian flores' lawsuit, and also when you look at colin kaepernick and all the things he has said over the past couple of years. >> yeah, dr. dre makes such a good point. when you put it in that context, it does feel long overdue. let's talk about the news about bob saget today. so his cause of death was finally revealed. and it's stunning. he had a head injury, his family says, and so what do they want us to know? what's his family saying? >> reporter: yes, so, alisyn, i've looked at the autopsy report and the conclusion is that bob saget must have fallen backwards, hit his head, gone to bed and thought nothing of it. so he died of blunt force head trauma but no foul play, no drugs, no alcohol in the system. i've seen the autopsy myself. the family has said, look, please remember bob for the love, the laughter that he brought to this world, and they
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are happy that they have some sort of closure, but it's traumatic. it's a sad situation to know that is how he spent his final moments, only 65 years old, and, otherwise in good health according to this autopsy report but, again, it's very reminiscent of liam neeson with his wife natasha richardson who tragically died after hitting her head during a ski accident. my own father had a subdural hematoma several years ago and luckily he was okay and didn't actually realize he had a brain bleed until several months later. you have to be so careful when it comes to brain injuries and, unfortunately, he was alone in that hotel room. >> and i guess the lesson is just when you hit your head, get it checked out. >> reporter: exactly. >> thank you very much for all of that. >> reporter: thank you. well, the freshman republican congresswoman confusing the nazi police with a
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of the largest workplace reforms in decades. it will end the use of forced arbitration clauses for sexual harassment and assault claims. it means victims will be able to seek justice in court instead of undergoing closed, often secretive legal proceedings. according to lawmakers, more than 60 million americans are currently subjected to these arbitration clauses in employment contracts. this bipartisan bill already passed the house by an overwhelming majority and it is headed to president biden for his signature. as you know, marjorie taylor greene is a fan of nazi analogies and this one, like so many of hers, went horribly wrong. >> not only do we have the dsz jail, which is the d.c. gulog but we have nancy pelosi's gazpacho police spying on members of congress, spying on the legislative work we do, spying on our staff and spying on american citizens that want to come talk to their
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representatives. >> yes, she said gazpacho, a delicious cold soup. cnn politics reporter chris cillizza is here with more. >> sorry. >> chris, she owes an apology to gazpacho. >> it's delicious. it's chilled tomato soup. >> i love it. >> let's go through. let's go through some of the reaction to this because it's worth doing. alexandria ocasio-cortez, at least she leads by example and clearly banned all books from her house all years ago. it's solid. so let's keep going. now, this is my favorite one. mostly because i love berman. a police force that only handles cold cases. that's brilliant. judy chew from california. the problem isn't that she doesn't know the difference, it's because she doesn't know the difference between the holocaust and a public health campaign. jose andres. the gazpacho police was created
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by me in 1993. and republican accountability project, just to clear things up, gazpacho, a vegetable based spanish soup and gestapo, nazi police. berman, congrats on that good one. >> that's the perfect smattering. >> he's funny. >> he is funny. and she's unintentionally funny, constantly providing comedy cold. and i guess it would all be -- look, it is funny. but the problem is, hasn't she already vowed not to use nazi analog analogies? hasn't she already learned this teachable moment? hasn't she already been publicly revealed for someone who's constantly beating this sort of holocaust drum? and it never goes right. people are always offended, but she's back at it. >> yeah.
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it's q-tip has a great line where he says i really don't know, i think a laugh to keep from crying. this isn't a one-off. she's done stuff like this over and over again. she said at times that she's sorryish. she said at other times that she's not. the thing that i think that is important to remember with her is see is on zero committees. she was removed from congressional committees just a few months after she came to congress in 2021. so there's just not a lot that she can do for her constituents. whether you agree with her or disagree with her, her ability to influence her district, bring back money to her district, represent her constituents in her district is just very, very limited by the fact that she has both dur ing her time in congres and before coming to congress said and done lots and lots and lots of things for which she has been banned from committees
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from. so she's not representing the people that she was sent to represent. >> yeah, i hear you. this isn't about legislation. this is about, i guess what, getting more dollars? just getting more infamy? why. >> there's a new crop of politicians, marjorie taylor greene, matt gaetz, madison cawthorne, they're trying to get media attention and getting on fox. it is not about working on committees or criafting legislation. it's not about any of that stuff. >> chris cillizza, thank you. "the lead with jake tapper" starts after a short break. and proactive alerts on market events. that's decision tech. only from fidelity.
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