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interrupting their treatment, essentially sentencing them to death. those were president putin's choices. now it's time for us to make ours. the united states is choosing to stand with the ukranian people. we are choosing, in coordination with our allies and partners, to impose severe consequences on russia. we are choosing to hold russia accountable for its actions, and we will soon turn to vote on a resolution that does just that. we believe this is a simple vote. vote yes if you believe you and member states, including your own, have a right to sovereignty and territorial integrity. vote yes if you believe russia should be held to account for its actions.
vote yes if you believe in upholding the u.n. charter and everything this institution stands for. thank you very much. >> i thank the distinguished representative of the united states. >> hello, i'm kate bolduan. what we've been listening to is the ambassador to the united nations, linda thomas-greenfield speaking very starkly about what russia is doing on ukraine as they continue their assault on ukranian people. even saying russia has betrayed the united nations. we're going to be watching this very closely. we'll also continue to follow the breaking news on the war in ukraine. there have been a lot of developments in the last 24 hours. ukraine's emergency service now reporting more than 2,000 ukranian civilians have been killed since the russian attack began a week ago. that horrifying death toll comes
as russian forces are only intensifying attacks on civilian targets across ukraine. overnight putin's military attacked a regional police department in ukraine's second largest city, kharkiv. a university was also attacked. heavy shelling has been reported in the southern city of mariople where the mayor there said there have been mass casualties and now there's no water supply. russia has taken control of kherson, a major city in ukraine. the u.s. has not confirmed that claim and othe ukranian government denies it. let's begin our coverage with matthew chance live in kyiv on the devastating death toll and the overnight attacks. matthew, what are you hearing? what are you seeing today? >> i'm actually in kyiv right now. it is one of the few cities that is very, very quiet. we're not hearing anything at
all which is in stark contrast to the kind of scenes and barrages we've had in the ukranian capitol ever the last five, six, even seven days since this conflict began. but those incredibly disturbing figures coming from emergency services department here in ukraine, saying that about 2,000 civilians have been killed so far in this conflict as a result of the fighting. and, you know, that's because there's been fierce fighting and bombardments raging all across the country as russian troops are advancing. here's the really disturbing thing as well, kate, is that if the russians decide, as they appear to have decided, that that initial tactic was a little bit underpowered and they're not making the territorial gains they thought they would and they change that tactic to increase the pressure and make it harder for an attack position, to bring in weaponry and things like that
and begin to target civilian areas, perhaps, obviously that civilian death toll is going to skyrocket upwards, so that's a very alarming prospect. indeed, already today there have been rocket attacks, airstrikes, missile attacks in various locations across the country. kharkiv, the biggest city, has been pounded by russian artillery. also attacks inside of the country as russian forces attempt to seize control of the port of mariople, the stretch of water between ukraine -- one of the stretches of water between ukraine and russia. so these are all very disturbing figures. there have been casualties on the other side as well. according to the ukranian security services, russia has now lost more than 6,000 of its own troops in this invasion that started, what was it, six days
ago. there is no way for us to independently verify that figure, and the russians, even though they have acknowledged they have taken casualties, they haven't put a figure on it. that is an enormous price for the russian artillery to pay as they continue on this invasion of ukraine, kate. >> matthew, thank you for being on top of this. i really appreciate it. we are getting a look at the deadly airstrike that knocked out a television tower, reported yesterday from kyiv. that also damaged a holocaust memorial site, an area that's long been considered sacred ground. >> reporter: that attack on the tv tower happening right here just three miles from the center of kyiv. that's the tower right there. you can see some of the damage right there in the middle. there is a blackened area as well as windows that have been blown out. we've been down to the buildings below it. a lot of destruction there, a lot of debris, a lot of broken
glass. the tower hit by one missile. there are several others that were hit here, we're told, by the guard in power. you can see the impact it has had on civilians as russia claims they are not targeting civilian infrastructure. just take a look at this. these are power lines that the city's buses use. back there where you can see the smoke and you can still smell the smoke in the air, that was a gym. there is a fire smoldering inside right next to gym equipment, ellipticals and stationary bikes. if you come around here, you can see this car that is now completely destroyed, its windshield blown in, and just beyond that, an auto parts store where the owner and the staff are still cleaning up. now, five people, we are told by the city, were killed in this
strike, five civilians. this strike takes on more significance when you take into consideration the fact that this is an area called babanyar. this is where one of the worst massacres in world war ii happened. 33,000 jews were killed on this site. there is a memorial not too far away. luckily that was not damaged. so this attack carried out by president putin's forces, a man who claims he wants to denazify ukraine, who wants to remove the jewish leader of ukraine. this was widely condemned, not just by ukraine's president who asked how can we say never again and let this happen? it was also called a pauling by the secretary of state, tony blinken. >> absolutely. alex marquardt on the scene for us. alex, thank you very much. so as russia continues to hit ukranian targets for a second day, the refugees are increasing
by the hour. sara sidner is live in poland. what are you seeing there? >> we're standing on the border with ukraine. this is one of the largest borders where you have people in cars crossing and people crossing on foot. they have allowed people to cross on foot all over the country now. this used to be the only place you could do that. we're seeing lots of people coming through in small groups. it's pretty orderly, we got to go close to the border. but there is this issue that keeps comingricans and indians and people who are residents of ukraine but not native ukranians finding themselves in very difficult positions and not being able to cross or get on trains. here's an exchange i just had with an eu commissioner for crisis management who was here talking about that issue and talking about the greatness of
poland but also the difficulties that happened with those black and brown p.m. here trying to flee the war. >> members of the parliament assured us this is fake news, that this is not true, and honestly we have not been able to corroborate that. >> i have corroborated it. i have talked to africans and indians who both said they were being pushed off trains, they were being left behind. these are women and children. >> any discrimination among people who are fleeing the conflict on the basis of any personal characteristic, including skin color, is unacceptable. >> reporter: completely unacceptable. you heard him saying that people crossing the border from ukraine will have special protection. they can go anywhere in europe, but after that they will be treated as refugees with special protection, which means they can get education, they can get food, they can get housing, they
can get jobs, because they want to make sure these people are precluded from this war. >> president biden making his first public comments about ukraine last night in the state of the union address. the president saying there is nothing off the table when it comes to punishing vladimir putin. >> will you ban russian oil imports? >> nothing is off the table. >> cnn's john is with us. >> that was a strong statement to make because they fear blowback from russia. gas prices are already so high,
they're afraid of retaliation. but as we see this war get more evident by the day, that made them start to take steps. jeremy diamond said it's too soon to say if it's a war crime, but clearly vladimir putin is targeting civilians. that's what generated the change that last week saw sanctions to then sanction the central bank, tough blocking sanctions that prohibit dollar transactions from major financial institutions. all of that is now ramping up as vladimir putin is inflicting more damage. talks between other nations happens tonight, kate. they are issuing a task
force to target russian oligarchs. president biden talked about this in his speech last night. evan perez is with us. evan, what do these attacks mean? >> what the foreign ministry just announce d a few minutes ao is a special task force that is specifically going after these oligarchs from russia, from belarus, their yachts, their private jets, their luxury apartments in any location, including the united states and the european union. this task force is called klepto capture, and it will include experts from the fbi, twho can target money laundering to try to find these assets and try and seize it. the fact that these sanctions were announced before, in the last few days, means that these oligarchs have already started
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united nations now saying they've seen video that suggests to them that russia has used weapons and bombs that are banned against the people of ukraine. listen to this. >> we've seen videos of russian forces moving exceptionally lethal weaponry into ukraine, which has no place on the battlefield. that includes cluster munitions and vacuum bombs which are banned under the geneva convention. >> ukraine's emergency services says that more than 2,000 ukranian civilians have died in just this first week of this war. joining me now is john herbst, the former ambassador of ukraine. also with us, retired air force colonel cedric leighton. ambassador, i want to get your reaction of what we just heard from linda thomas-greenfield, saying they have seen video, cluster munitions, vacuum bombs, weapons banned under the geneva
convention. what do her words in front of the u.n. general assembly mean? >> those confirmed reports coming from ukranian authorities in the last several days about their use of cluster munitions and vacuum bombs. this is clearly a war crime, and it seems to be an indication that putin is going to move from a straightforward invasion into the use of massive bombardments of invasions, a tactic which got him a victory in syria. we should have taken him down then and before that when he did it with chechnya. >> the ambassador said it's too
early to say whether it's a war crime. do you think this conflicts with those reports? >> if the ambassador to the u.n. confirmed that they are banned, then that's a war crime. the overall response to the crisis has been sound. >> tukalk to me about the lethality of these weapons. cluster munitions, vacuum bombs. why does this take the weaponry to a new level? >> these are weapon systems that are banned by the geneva convention. cluster bombs are munitions that are designed to explode and carry out projectiles over a large distance. in essence, what they do is they are designed to be anti-personnel devices, which means they're designed to kill
tro troops, but when they're used on the civilians, it can kill a wide area of people if you are going after people in a public square, for example. it could potentially devastate everybody within a large city square. when you look at the thermobaric b bombs, that is a weapon that is designed to go after people in enclosed spaces. what happens is, in essence, it's a kind of glorified, if you will, flame thrower, and what it does, it attacks an area that -- i believe we used it in an enclosed space and it sucks the air out of people's lungs who are targeted. it's a very grotesque weapon, and what it does is it
asphyxiates people and it does it in a way that is heinous, that is absolutely cruel. so these weapons don't work as well in an open area, but they work extremely well from a lethality standpoint in an enclosed area, so they're used against bunkers, buildings, trenches and that kind of area that could potentially be an obstacle to the russian forces. >> colonel, i also have new reporting that i want to bring to everyone as well, that the u.s. sources say that the ukranian military, their capability losses have been worse than the military losses for the russians to this point. this reporting from jim sciutto and katie willis says russia has lost three-fourths of its tanks and other assets compared to 10%
of ukraine's capabilities. what does that mean? >> it's not surprising to me. it just means we're dealing with a david and goliath issue here. ukraine's army is less than russia's army, so a loss for ukraine makes it more difficult. it's not surprising because ukraine is operating in an enclosed area, their country, where the russians are spread out in the largest country on earth in terms of geographical area. >> thank you for being on. coming up next, president biden vows putin will pay the price for his deadly invasion of ukraine. now president biden's state of the union address laid out this war and more. ukranian children battling
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president biden took aim at vladimir putin in biden's first state of the union address last night. the president insisting that putin's attack on ukraine is backfiring, further isolating putin from the rest of the world. >> putin's attack was unprovoked. he thought the west and nato wouldn't respond. he thought he could divide us at home in this chamber and this nation. he thought he could divide us in europe as well. but putin was wrong. we are ready. we are united, and that's what we did, we stayed united. >> joining me right now for more on this is david gregory, senior political analyst. it's good to see you, david. what do you make of those 12 minutes on ukraine?
did he effectively explain to the american people why this matters to them and also where this is headed? >> i don't think completely. i think there is a lot of questions about how it ends and how to read putin and what america's role is. it was pretty disturbing to hear him say if putin keeps going west that the united states would defend territory that's part of nato. i think that has a lot of people alarmed because a lot of americans are fairly asking, why is this our fight? the president referred to something else, that putin thought he could get away with it. that's because he has gotten away with it before now. his invasion of georgia at the end of the bush administration in '08, the crimea in 2014. so there was a precedent for him to feel like the west would not be as united as it now is. >> he also leaned on that kind of unifying message that he spoke to during the state of the
union. he also leaned on that unity to bring the message home to more domestic issues like the pandemic. i want to play it for everyone. one moment. >> let's use this moment to reset, to stop looking at covid as a partisan dividing line. see it for what it is, a god-awful disease. let's stop seeing each other as enemies and start seeing each other for who we are, fellow americans. look -- [ applause ] >> looking fior a reset is something a lot of people may want, i just hope he painted a picture as to what the unified response to covid should look like now. >> i like the message, i like the tone of it. i think he could have done more. i think the president has to acknowledge that a lot of people are struggling with how hypersensitive a lot of institutions are in the face of covid that is not being led by
science. we were told by the scientific community everything has to be driven by science, and yet we see schools that are still requiring masks indoors, policies that are not driven by science. we see workplaces doing the same thing. we see municipalities doing the same thing, we see a patchwork of response. the president has to speak to parents out there who don't want to send their kids to health care or child care because they don't want their kids around somebody wearing a mask all day long when there is already concerns about delayed speech, or in older kids, anxiety and depression around covid. i think the president has to speak to that and not just make it a political divide. >> that's a really interesting take. it's great to see you, david. thanks for coming in. >> thanks. yep. coming up for us, children battling cancer in the midst of a war. is it more dangerous for them to stay and hide in a hospital basement with bombs overhead or more dangerous to try and get them out of the country to safety? the devastating impact this war
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alone alone: president putin. it was his choice to force hundreds of thousands of people to stuff their lives into backpacks and flee the country, to send newborn babies into makeshift bomb shelters, to make children with cancer huddle in hospital basements, interrupting their treatment, essentially sentencing them to death. >> those young children the u.n. ambassador is talking about are some of these patients, these patients at the largest hospital in kyiv now hiding in their hospital basement. their doctors and nurses are there with them, performing life-saving treatments as bombs fall around them in kyiv. imagine having to move into a basement and turning it into a bomb shelter. that's what's happening right now.
with me is a doctor caring for some of the children during this war, and the program director of the children's largest cancer charity. thank you so much. doctor, how are the children doing, and what has it been like down there for six days? >> it's awful, but they are brave. they still receive all treatment. we've performed them before, but it's really an issue and challenge for doctors and for our patients also. >> of course. as a parent, my brain immediately goes to how is their care suffering? not because of you, only because of what you've all been forced into, having to treat these children in a basement while a war is raging over your heads. >> so it depends. some patients who are stable, they stay in the ward and go to
the shelter only when we have alarm. patients, for example, are patients who have issues, it's difficult for them to go up and down the stairs. they stay where it's safe all the time. >> doctor, what do you hear from the children? obviously depending on their age. >> it thoroughly depends on the age of the children. if they're three, four, five, six age, we explain to them but they really don't understand clearly what's happening. they think it's like a game. if you're talking about this, it is a hard conversation because
they fight every day, and now they have made a huge attack again. they're really brave. >> so brave and so resilient. the u.n. ambassador has said that what is happening is essentially, maybe for some, sentencing these children to death, doctor. is that your biggest fear? >> i'm sorry, i don't hear you clearly. >> theyi said one thing the u.n ambassador said today is that what putin has done, forcing these children into basements, is essentially for some possibly sentencing them to death. is that kwyour biggest fear? >> yes. sure. you know, we continue to treat as it was before, but we realize that our supplies, we all saw
what happened yesterday and the same thing can happen in kyiv. it's one of the biggest fears. we try to have as much patience as possible to a different hospital in the rest of ukraine or now we know italy also take outpatients and transfer them to another country or another hospital. >> that's the horrible choice that you're facing. not just in kyiv but across the country. you're trying to save children all across ukraine. what are the stories you're hearing from other parts, other children, other families? >> yes, it's now the biggest challenge to take all these children with cancer out of ukraine.
so that's our primary mission. we arrange supplies of all essentials like medicine and food to the national children's hospital and some other hospitals. but evacuation is our goal, number one, because we understand that it's very unsafe to stay here on the shooting missiles, bombing, in basements which are not appropriate for children with cancer to stay in. they are not heated, they're humid, there is mildew, so these children are immunocompromised so they can get worse or even die while staying in such conditions. and so our efforts are to take them out of ukraine, but it's extremely difficult to do this, because it's very difficult to travel across ukraine, it's
unsafe. it's not possible to find police escorts which could accompany them to western ukraine. there are huge queues in waiting lines at the border. people stay there for 30 hours, and we can get our children across the border only with police escort. this is the only way for them to travel without interruption. we are happy to have our partners through the children's research hospital which established a coordination team in poland who helped us to handle this. they distribute these children among polish hospitals so that they are admitted immediately upon arrival to poland. but it's all very overwhelming, because i think that poland is not able to admit all of them, and we need more countries to
join this initiative and admit our children for further treatment. >> you need the help now. it's not something you need in a week. some of these children probably can't even wait a week. thank you, yuliya. thank you, doctor, as well. this isn't just a job that you're doing, this is affecting your entire world and your entire life. thank you both very much. >> for more information on how you can help the people of ukraine, go to cnn.com/impact. you can see resources there. coming up for us still this hour, the white house just unveiled a new coronavirus plan aimed at less disruptive, a less disruptive phase of this pandemic. what does that mean? what is the road map ahead? i'm going to speak to the health secretary of the united states. that's next.
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developing right now, moments ago the white house just announced a new plan aiming to move the pandemic from crisis phase to a new phase, one that does not disrupt the daily lives of americans. the details laid out in 96 pages calls for, among other things, additional funding from congress for treatments, testing and also more resources to help fight the virus abroad. joining me now from the white house is the secretary of health and human >> well, the president made the announcement we are ready to move into this new phase where
we're not just trying to attack the virus, put down covid, but we're also trying to make sure americans can go back to a more normal life. and so it takes a team effort, not just in the federal government but the entire country. the more americans participate, act responsibly, the quicker we will get back to what we believe should be america. >> what does it look like? what are the priorities? >> to build on what we know. scientists have given us great information. the data shows that the vaccines work, that testing helps, that using masks has helped protect a lot of folks. and if we continue to do all those things that work well, we'll have fewer people in the hospital because of covid, and we'll be able to go back to a more normal lifestyle. the sooner every american -- we'll not leave anyone behind. we'll get there. >> i want to ask about some elements that may not be covered in this road map going forward but people have a lot of questions about when you talk about getting back to more
normal life. i mean, does this road map include and going into this next phase does it mean the mask requirement for transportation like air travel will be going away after march 18th which is when it's set to expire? >> we aspire to those things. we know what it takes to make it a reality. the more we are vaccinating, the more we are continuing to follow those safe protocols, the quicker we can get back to the point where we say things like no masks in public, as you heard the president announce, and perhaps get to the point soon, hopefully, where we can say in public transportation when you fly, when you're on a train, perhaps you won't need a mask. we still have work to do. there are still people in america who haven't been able to vaccinate our children, who are immunocompromised, and so we have work to do. we're not going to leave anyone behind and we have a responsibility not just to ourselves but to our family and communities to be safe. >> the expiration date is weeks
away. with more work to do does that mean everyone should fully anticipate that expiration, that mandate being extended again? >> well, they should anticipate we're going to do whatever the it takes to keep americans safe -- >> i know, but talking about the road map going forward, secretary, people want to know details of what does getting back to more normal life mean? for a lot of folks that might include not wearing a mask when they're on the train, not wearing a mask when they're on a plane. and i know there's a lot of elements that go into making that decision and announcement, but when you roll out a 96-page road map ahead, that's one question that's left unanswered. why? >> actually, it is answered. if you take a close look and guidance offered by cdc last week, it's become clear that today we're in a better place, if you're in a location where the risks are lower and hospitalization rates are down you can go without a mask. but at the same time we have to think of the millions of americans, tens of millions of americans, who don't have the same immunity levels you or i
might have who are always in danger, who have to be taken care of, protected. children under the age of 5 who haven't received one shot of the vaccine. we've outlined what we need to do and we made it clear what the road map looks like. it's a mat eter of all of us working together to get there. >> what are you waiting to see -- i'm going to stick on this. this is a perfect example. what are you waiting then to see to decide that the work has been done and you can lift the requirement for masks on planes? >> well, there are still several thousand americans. we're in hospitals today because of covid. we still have some 2,000 americans dying every day from covid. we still have more than 60,000, 70,000 cases of covid on a daily basis. when we see those numbers begin to drop to levels that show that safety can be had everywhere, when we see that americans continue to vaccinate, we've had more than 250 million americans who have at least one shot of
the vaccine, more than 215 million americans who have the two-shot vaccine, we have tens of millions more boosted, but, still, we have americans who are in hospitals. we still see americans contracting covid. we still have to be careful. and so we're giving people the guidance, we're putting out there the road map. now we all have to get there working together. >> secretary, thanks for coming on. really appreciate it. >> you've got it. thanks, kate. >> thank you. i want to move now to the sports world and how it is responding to the russian invasion of ukraine. russia's top women's tennis star now speaking out against putin's war. she spoke to cnn this morning about why. >> i think it's more about sports right now, as was said early in the tournament here in dubai, which he won and it's true, i think we don't have to be -- i'm not going to be selfish in talking about sport and my career.
it's about our future and life really. >> ukrainian tennis star anastasia pavlyuchenkova has refused to play any matches against russian or belarusian players unless they compete under a neutral flag. when they are russian counterpart agreed the ukrainian won the match, pledged to donate her winnings to the ukrainian army. thanks so much for being here. i'm kate bolduan. >> woman: what's my safelite story? i'm a photographer. and when i'm driving, i see inspiration right through my glass. so when my windshield cracked, it had to be fixed r right. i scheduled wiwith safelite autoglass. their experts replaced my windshield and recalibrated my car's advanced safety system. ♪ acoustic rock music ♪ >> woman: safelite is the one i trust. they focus on safety so i can focus on this view.
hello, everybody. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king from washington. thank you for sharing your busy day with us. we start the hour with a sober warning moments ago about potential new russian brutality in ukraine from the united states ambassador to the united nations. last hour, listen, ambassador linda thomas-greenfield says the russian arsenal inside ukraine includes illegal weapons of war. >> we have seen videos of russian forces moving exceptionally lethal weaponry into ukraine. which has no place on the battlefield. that includes cluster munitions and vacuum bombs which are
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