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home. my question is when they return, the likelihood they will be able to regain some of the places they have left. i see your eyes closed, i know you're not deep in thought. we got you. >> sorry about that. yeah, i mean, i think -- we don't know where they're going to go but we'll try to make some gains and they will, no doubt, as war has progressed. it ebbs and flows but they haven't been able to make gains refitting and regrouping. they're at the weakest point they've been at. i don't see significant gains being made no matter where they move to. >> it was so interesting to hear kirby talk about that ominous 40-mile convoy we focused on because we had seen it on the satellite photos and him saying it's their assessment it has basically fallen apart, that it
was evident there was a lack of planning on the russians' part. but, of course, now it sounds like they're regrouping and no one knows what they're planning to do next. >> well, that was a resupply convoy he was being asked about. the inevitable consequence of that, especially in the face of ukrainian resistance, in the face of quick, nimble, almost hit-and-run sort of attacks from the ukrainians using the weapons that have continued to flow in was this resupply convoy fell apart and the russian troops that were supposed to be around there, less than 20% perhaps, was the number given from john kirby, started moving back. he didn't want to use the word withdraw or retreat. it remains the assessment these troops will be pulled back into belarus, refitted, and then perhaps the u.s. assessment is they will then be sent into
donbas, the donbas region which is the region which moscow has said it will be prirp advertising and that's what the u.s. expects to see. it's only 48 hours or so since russia has said that. it's too quick for them to have moved back into belarus, refitted, repositioned and then already gotten into donbas some 500 miles away that will take time, but that is part of what the u.s. assesses russia will try to do as the days and weeks go by here. >> okay. oren liebermann, colonel collins, thank you both. vladimir putin is facing resistance. the head of british intelligence said putin has massively misjudged the situation in ukraine by miscalculating the strength of the ukrainian resistance. looking at a russian tank on fire here. the uk intelligence director added putin is also dealing with opposition among his military who have low morale, refused to carry out orders, and are
sabotaging their own equipment. and in the last hour president biden said putin may have forced out some of his top aides. listen. >> he seems to be -- i'm not saying this with certainty -- he seems to be self-isolating and there's some indication he has fired or put under house arrest some of his advisers. >> a short time ago the ukrainian nuclear authority said all but a small number of russian forces have withdrawn from the chernobyl site of that 1986 nuclear disaster the russian troops took control of that early on in their invasion in february. >> the u.s. also says it has seen russians pulling back from an airport they seized northwest of kyiv. the nato secretary-general warns the russians are not withdrawing but repositioning to the contested donbas region. ukraine believes russians are also regrouping in belarus to the north. president biden says he's skeptical about any russian pullback.
>> thus far there is no clear evidence he's pulling all of these forces out. there is also evidence he is beefing up his troops in the donbas area. depending on your view of putin, i'm a little skeptical. it's an open question whether he's actually pulling back and going to say i'm just going to focus on the donbas and i'm not worried about the rest of the country. i'm a skeptic. i don't have proof. >> meanwhile the russian attacks continue. images from kyiv and chernihiv. the mayor says attacks are actually increasing. let's go to don now. we'll hold on that. military officials in ukraine say russian forces may be regrouping, as we said, in belarus, the area to the north,
where they might replenish plans. >> ed lavandera is live in the southern port city of odesa. ed, what are you seeing there? >> reporter: well, here just a few moments ago air raid sirens just went off for about eight minutes. the sound was mixed with church bells ringing here at night. so a very surreal sound and scene as the city remains under curfew, the streets totally empty and quiet. obviously many people here watching with a great deal of concern what is happening in the northern part of ukraine and trying to make sense of exactly what russian forces are up to and what their plan will be. as we've been reporting it appears russian forces moving back toward belarus in large part trying to regroup, and that raises the question where they will move to next, do they have plans to move in through eastern ukraine and continue to move down the coastline of the sea of azov and the black sea, perhaps
down toward odesa to create that land bridge connecting with crimea. that is the concern and that is the expectation many people we've talk to believe might happen next. the timing of all of that is still very much up in the air but there's a great level of distrust of what the russians are saying publicly trying to figure out what they're going to physically do on ground next. >> ed, what about that southern city of mariupol, because we had heard maybe they were going to be setting up an evacuation route but it was stymied. >> reporter: right. so this continues to be a dramatic and horrific situation. there were reports and plans today to try to get 45 buses close there to mariupol to be able to evacuate some 1,500 to 2,500 people, according to the deputy mayor who describes the residents living there in mariupol as living like mice
underground in shelters and bunkers, so there's this desperate need to get these people evacuated. however, there's still more than 100,000 people that need to be evacuated. throughout the last few hours we've heard reports that the buses that were trying to reach mariupol had been stopped by russian forces at gunpoint, so it's unclear exactly what kind of progress they're making. it might not even be until midnight local time before we get an idea if they've been able to successfully reach a handful of people there in the city that need to be evacuated. so that continues to be a very dangerous and fluid situation here this evening. >> ed lavandera, thank you very much. let's bring in don lemon in lviv in western ukraine. don, tell us what you're seeing. we're seeing similar to what ed just talked about, at least through the eyes of folks we have interviewed here in mariupol, alisyn and victor. we interviewed a family who
escaped just a short time ago, a few days ago, and got here to lviv and talked about the checkpoints they experienced along the way and their entire experience. in the meantime the death toll has risen from a russian missile hitting a government building tuesday in mykolaiv in southern ukraine. cnn's ben wedeman is there. ben, hello to you. the first report feared that three were killed, and now we know that number is much higher. talk to us about that. what's going on? >> reporter: yeah, the initial death toll was quite low, but what's clear many people -- and we were up close to that ruined building yesterday -- it's clear that many more people were trapped inside. and what we've seen steadily that death toll has been rising. it's currently 20 but what is important to stress is that attack took place tuesday morning at 8:45 local time, more
than 48 hours later. the rescue workers are still digging bodies out of the ruins. somewhere in this jumble of concrete, bricks and twisted metal are more bodies trapped in the ruins of the office of mykolaiv's regional governor. tuesday morning a russian missile struck the building killing more than a dozen people, wounding many more. >> they bombarded our city and civilians are dying here. >> reporter: the mykolaiv mayor syenkevych saw war coming long ago and prepared himself. >> in 2014 i said the war will be like this. so everything you see on me is bulletproof vest, boots, anything i bought it a couple years ago. i started to learn how to shoot.
i was in a special school for that. >> reporter: on the outskirts of his city recently downed russian attack helicopters suggest the ukrainian military also saw this war coming. they've managed to stop russian forces in their tracks, regaining territory lost at the start of the war. 5-year-old misha is recovering from shrapnel wounds to his head in the basement turned bomb shelter at mykolaiv's regional hospital. his grandfather vladimir shows me phone video of the bullet riddled car his father was driving with his family to escape the russian advance. russian soldiers, vladimir calls them bastards, opened fire on the car, killing misha's grandmother and mother. as we speak, the air raid siren goes off. taking shelter is an oft practiced drill. stay calm and carry on.
and just as ed is hearing in odesa those air raid sirens, we also heard them a few minutes ago. they've been going off almost every hour all day long. and even though the russian forces have been significantly pushed back from the outskirts of this city, there is a real fear that something could happen, they could come back just as easily as they were pushed away. so what we saw today, don, is the city authorities are cutting down massive trees to use those trees to help reinforce trenches on the outskirts of the city and reinforce barricades on all of the roads coming into it. don? >> all right, ben wedeman, thanks. alisyn and victor, you saw the city official there, the mayor. you have mayors of towns. you have the ukrainian parliament and just average
citizens suiting up, arming themselves not just counting on the west and nato but counting on themselves to save their country. >> and, in fact, we will talk to one of those right now, don. thank you very much. a senior defense official said some russian forces are drawing back from areas north and northwest of kyiv, and troops have likely abandoned the airport outside of the capital. but the region is still very much under threat from increased air strikes as russian troops regroup. so joining us now is a dual american ukrainian citizen and veteran defending his homeland in kyiv. it's always great to talk to you. tell us what you're seeing around you today in kyiv. >> hi. well, lately it's been really quiet in kyiv. air sirens go off every now and then but it's been much more stable and more quiet here because it seems like they are
retreating, they're pushing back, i don't know why. it's been better. the situation in kyiv is better. >> and do you feel as though that is progress, or do you think the russians are regrouping and planning something else in kyiv? >> well, you know what, i think progress will be when we are completely kicking them out of our country. right now i don't know. we are getting ready for them to regroup. that's our thought. that's the only thing we think of. we don't think they're just decide to go back. we are getting ready for them to reg regroup. you have to be ready with russia. i know they're saying they are taking their forces back from the capital, but, you know, you have to be ready. we are ready. we're getting ready and we'll see what happens.
>> miro, why do you think russian forces weren't able to make more gains in kyiv? >> well, first of all, i don't think their military is as good as they want people to seem. i think their intelligence and intel was wrong. they did not expect such a high resistance. they did not expect our military to be that good. i mean, honestly, i personally am a little bit surprised as well because i thought that it would be much worse here around the capital. but, you know, it is the capital and the main city in ukraine. it's heavily guarded. our air defense system is a little bit better than in other cities. so, yeah, that's it. i think their planning was
wrong. and i don't see how they can correct that in the future because we are ready for any outcome or any scenario now. we are 35 days ago when the war started we weren't as ready but we still kick them and pushed them back. now i see that our national guard, our military, our national police that i work with, we are ready for anything and we are on the high alert on standby but we are ready. >> miro, your story is so fascinating to us because, you know, a month ago you were a film student at new york film school. and now you are in ukraine and fighting for your country and every time we've talked to you, you just show the same resolve and courage. we really appreciate you taking the time to talk to us and we
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>> considering how miserably the russian army has been performing so far they got their butts kicked all over the country. this russian army rather outdated machinery and it would be difficult. understand the ukrainian army is right now stronger than ever and more motivated than ever. we know what we fight for and die for. russians don't. >> at the end of any of these talks there has to be the basic premise russia and, therefore, vladimir putin, is a good faith
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comedian chris rock spoke during his first public appearance since getting slapped by will smith during sunday's live oscars broadcast. >> cnn has obtained audio of what rock told the sold out audience in boston. >> taking it off the screen is the only way to read that. >> basically he said he was still processing. >> we'll try to get you the audio. he didn't have much to say. he's thinking his way through it, understandably. cnn entertainment reporter was there for both of chris rock's shows last night. so what did he say and what was the mood inside the theater particularly his mood? >> reporter: yeah, look, i'm
here in boston. right behind me is the wilbur theater where chris rock performed two shows last night. i have to tell you everyone was so excited to see chris rock. when he came out he didn't get just one but two standing ova ovations. he was wearing all white and he appeared to get emotional. at one point he said i'm getting misty. just let me do my show. he said i'm still processing everything and at one point i will address this. it will be serious. it will be funny. and then later in his second show at 10:00 p.m. he said despite what you've heard, i haven't had any conversations yet. and he's meaning with will smith. diddy had come out and said they squashed things and they had not. >> chloe, i think we have the audio right now. let's see if we can hear him in his own words. >> welcome to the show.
y all got me misty and [ bleep ]. i don't know like a bunch of [ bleep ] about what happened. if you came to hear that, i'm not -- i wrote a whole show before this week, and i'm still kind of processing what happened. like, i am -- [ cheers and applause ] so at some point i'll [ bleep ] and it'll be serious, it'll be funny. i'm going to tell some jokes and talk about -- it's nice to just be out. >> that was worth the wait. not so much to hear him but the crowd's love, that roar of
support for him, chloe. i don't know that i was expecting it to be quite that loud and enthusiastic but also, chloe, while we have you, tell us what happened with the academy's board of governors, what came out of the meeting, what's next for will smith. >> reporter: so, first of all, this was all happening at the very same moment. so the academy of motion pictures, arts and sciences, their governor's board was literally having a meeting about what to do about will smith in their annual postmortem they have after the oscars and they put out a statement cnn obtained and participate of it says that things unfolded in a way we could not have anticipated. while we would like to clarify mr. smith was asked to leave the ceremony and refused, we also recognized we could have handled the situation differently. they said, alisyn and victor, they've given will smith 15 days notice, he can respond in writing. they will announce on or around that time what they're going to do, what are the repercussions.
will he be suspended from the academy? can he not be a part of next year's oscars? we will have to see what they decide to do. we still haven't heard anything from will smith, and even though he publicly apologized to chris rock, it doesn't sound like he's directly apologized to chris rock at all. >> okay. all interesting and we'll see what the academy does. there's no playbook for this. chloe melas, thank you very much. >> that's an interesting element and a bit disappointing there has not been, according to chris rock, any communication between the two of them, that will smith has not apologized to chris rock -- >> personally. he did do it on instagram. he did it publicly. one of the interesting things i think about this how public it all was, the public humiliation for both of them, getting slapped publicly on this international stage, then the public apology. it's very sort of celebrity driven rather than, as you say, just one-on-one.
>> when you saw me on the phone, i went back to look at will smith's social media to see if there had been anything posted since then and it's just that white lettering on a black background, i would like to publicly apologize to you, chris, and all of that. he has a fantastic social media team. they shoot videos of him and his family and they can get a camera and have him sit down, even if he won't call, and on camera apologize to chris rock. i'm not saying this isn't heartfelt, but you haven't called the man, and all these videos and well edited and shot videos, all well lit, and you post this written statement. it may be heartfelt, but you walked up on global television and slapped a man across the face. >> i think that chris rock has given us all a master class in how not to escalate. he didn't escalate. he went on with the show, and then he told his crowd last night. i'm still processing. i don't have any words for you right now. i'm still working it through, which i think is also just a
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president biden today announcing an unprecedented release of oil from u.s. emergency reserves in an effort to lower the sky-high gas prices. >> our prices are rising because of putin's action. there isn't enough supply. and the bottom line is if we want lower gas prices, we need to have more oil supply right now. >> a million barrels of oil will be released every day for the next six months. cnn's matt egan is here. what do we know about the impact this will have? >> well, this should help but no one should expect gas prices to suddenly get cheap. this is really all about supply and demand. the war in ukraine set off this massive supply shock. the white house, they can't force u.s. oil companies to add
supply and can't force opec to add supply and can't do anything to lower demand so this is really the only lever they had to pull. 180 million barrels being released. that is three times bigger than anything we've ever seen before. the previous record was a few months ago. within minutes of this coming out, we did actually see oil prices come down sharply. they're down about 6, 7% as we speak, trading just above $100 a barrel, so lower than they have been but not cheap. experts i'm taulking to do expet gas prices to possibly come down a little bit but they're still concerned about prices going up this spring and summer. they say gas prices could hit record highs this spring and summer. two big obstacles. one, this is a big move, but the size of the shock is even bigger. there's estimates of 3 million barrels per day from russia coming offline. the spr is not a bottomless pit of oil.
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today the biden administration is marking international transgender day visibility with a series of changes supporting transgender americans, including the option to choose x when identifying gender on u.s. passport applications. that starts next month. and then starting next year, the social security administration will no longer require doctor's notes to update gender information. >> but some states are curbing transgender rights. just yesterday republican governor doug ducey signed a bill banning surgery until 18 and another bill that prohibits transathletes from competing in women's and girls sports in some schools. we want to tell you about a weather alert because parts of virginia, north carolina are
under a tornado watch. at least 214 were there month. and that's the most since record keeping began in 1950. >> the previous record was set just last year, 191 tornados reported in march. typically there are only about 80 tornados on average in march. "the lead with jake tapper" starts now. putin's troops may be losing one battle, but are they winning the war? "the lead" starts right now. nato and the biden administration point to small victories for ukraine amidst blunders by russia, but putin continues to pulverize south and east ukraine. so are we headed to some sort of stalemate ending up with two different countries, an occupied ukraine and a free ukraine? plus biden goes big, announcing plans to release a record 1 million barrels o