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paths. a lot of risk but i think they'll pull it off. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> it's going to be a big morning. 500,000 jobs would be great if that happens. we're still down for the pandemic. a lot of changes. we'll get a good read in a couple of hours. thanks for joining us, everybody. i'm christine romans. >> i'm laura jarrett. "new day" starts right now. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> good morning to viewers in the united states and all around the world. it is friday, april 1st. i'm john berman in lviv in western ukraine. brianna keilar is in washington. we do have breaking news. reports of a ukrainian strike inside russia. we want to show you some new video. it shows a fire at a fuel depot near the ukrainian border in
bell going rod. this was attacked by two ukrainian helicopters flying in at low altitude. cnn cannot confirm this claim. we were told there were no victims. but this would be a very significant development and an extraordinary counterattack by the ukrainians. russians have been attacking ukraine's fuel depos for weeks. also this morning, new attacks in the donbas region in eastern ukraine. russia conditions to prioritize military operations in the separatist controlled area. >> translator: the situation in the southern direction and in the donbas remains extremely difficult. russian troops are accumulating the potential for strikes and powerful blows. >> zelenskyy is also sending a
warning to what he calls traitors within the ukrainian military. he fired two generals, saying, quote, if you don't decide where your homeland is, you will be punished. russia is redeploying t troops. up to 2,000 soldiers are being reorganized into battalion tactical groups. ukraine is retaking irpin in the suburbs of kyiv. this is an area that is still extremely dangerous and remains off limits to civilians. russian forces have handed the chernobyl nuclear facility back to ukraine, ending their five-week occupation. talks are set to resume after limited progress was made early in the week. all right. i want to begin with the situation perhaps over the border in russia.
this ukrainian hell cop sister attack. cnn's phil black joins me now. phil, what do we know? >> reporter: we know, if true, this was a bold aing ta bit ukrainians. we know this facility has been destroyed. it is the russians who are saying the ukrainians did it. they flew in low, launching a strike, which has created this explosion, destroying the facility. it is, as you say, very similar to attacks that the russians have launched across ukraine in recent weeks targeting specific fuel depots in the hopes of ata the ukraine military. they have said no comment on this particular attack. but attack russian federation soil is not something we have seen so far that we are aware of in the war so far. president putin's spokesman said president putin has been informed of the destruction of
this facility. >> that's interesting. i'm told 3.5 million gallons of fuel on fire is what you are seeing in some of those pictures. geographically, if you look at kharkiv, it is just over the border of kharkiv in the northeastern part of the country. you can see the fires there. a lot of oil, a lot of fuel burning there. phil, russian forces have left the chernobyl region >> yeah. so we know they have been pulling out from kyiv, the northern city of chernihiv. chernobyl is something they took the very earliest moments of the war. it is the site of the world's worst nuclear disaster in 1986. we are told by officials they up and left and none of them left there either in the region or at the facility itself. ukrainian officials also say, and this is something we can't verify, that while the soldiers were there, they were digging in the ground, digging trenches, building fortifications. as a result of that activity,
they say, they have experienced radiation sickness. it is something that hit them very quickly and it created panic among the soldiers who were stationed there. . >> we don't know that's true, but that is the one thing you don't want to do in a contaminated area is dig. we have heard plenty of dissents in the russian ranks. but this is the ukrainian side. . >> indeed. russian officials have talked about collaborators in the country, people who do want the russians to be here. we have not heard of single people being rooted out in this way. president zelenskyy implied two members of the ukrainian security services, intelligence and investigative body here were working for the other side. they hadn't decided who their homeland was. one had a very senior role in the national organization. another the head of the regional branch in the kherson region in the south of the country. these are two generals, two senior figures who the president has outed as traitors. .
>> phil black, great the see you. thank you so much for your reporting. new this morning, russian forces, we are told, just shelled a local regional hospital in chernihiv. we spoke to the mayor there about the situation on the ground, which remains, according to him, dire. he says they could run out of food and medicine within five to seven days. mr. mayor, thank you so much for being with us. can you tell us what the last day has been like in your city. >> translator: at the moment, we are going through full humanitarian capacity. we have no electricity, no water. i'm actually being interviewed -- i'm talking to you with my torch as a means of electricity. and the russian forces just shelled a local regional hospital. so this is the situation. >> the russians just attacked a hospital?
>> translator: yes. some shells hit the regional hospital direct. and one of the buildings of the hospital, in fact, the archeological unit, was completely destroyed. three people sustained heavy injuries. >> mr. mayor, has any relief been able to get in? >> translator: at the moment, logistics with the city of chernihiv is only partial being provided by the military and the volunteer. the steady logistics is totally absent. >> totally absent. mr. mayor, i understand you yourself are very ill. tell us about your condition. >> translator: well, i'm okay. but i caught an acute case of pneumonia and i have this bad cough. but it's nothing major.
i'll be fine. >> an acute case of pneumonia, but you'll be fine. i imagine you have to work through something like this given the situation in your city. >> translator: for me, it's very important to provide all the information on what's going on in ukraine and in my city of chernihiv to the whole entire world, in particular to the united states. and that presents a new tafbg to do something with the security situation, which we have at the moment. >> mr. mayor, do you have any hopes that the ukrainian forces will be able to break the encirclement of your city? >> translator: i'm convinced we're going to do it. we just need time. we actually need to concentrate on this task and everything will be fine. but, again, it will take time
and probably -- >> finally, you told me you had 7 to 10 days of food, supplies and equipment. do you still have a week left of supplies in the city? >> translator: we are getting some small supplies of food and medicines to the city across the river. but it is clearly less than we need. and i can tell you that we have a supply of food and medication for approximately five to seven days. >> mr. mayor, be safe. please be healthy. we appreciate you. thank you for the windshield you have given us into your city. >> translator: thank you very much. there are hundreds of children suffering in hospitals with injuries as a result of the war that putin is waging on ukraine. 3-year-old dima was wounded during shelling in mariupol. he now lies in bed in the
children's ward crying out for his father, who is being treated in another part of the hospital. we want to warn you this video is distressing. it is heartbreaking. >> officials say at least 153 children have been killed in ukraine since russia's invasion began and 245 have been injured. it is heartbreaking. it's heartbreaking video. i'm glad just to know that his father is alive, berman, to be honest. but i'm looking at his little
hands restrained because obviously they don't want him pulling at tubes. he's only 3. they have little trucks, things that he can hold onto. but how distressing this must be for a little boy. >> it was the trucks -- the truck in his hand that got me, brianna. because that could be anyone's kid. that could be any of our children. put yourself in the situation of these parents with young kids living in ukraine right now. what's happening to them, what's happening to their families. imagine living in your community and then the very next day missiles raining down on you and your kids. imagine what it must be like for the father who is elsewhere in the father, to know that his son is lying there with tubes in his nose crying out for him. it really is just horrifying. . >> i just hope that they are reunited very soon. all right. just in, the united states and
its allies exploring ways to guarantee ukraine's security going forward. will they give the deposit here everything it wants? we do have new cnn reporting on this. plus, jared kushner talking to the january 6th committee for more than six hours. what on earth did he have to say for six hours? new reporting coming up.
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. >> essentially what the ukrainians are asking for is a form of security guarantees they could have as they give up the bid for nato membership. one of the major commands russia has is they don't want ukraine to join nato. they don't want nato to expand further east. they are saying, well, we might be able to concede that we are willing to drop this nato membership bid. if that happens, we want some kind of guarantee from the west that we will be protected if this war ends and if russia ever invades again essentially. u.s. and its allies are considering this, talking to the ukrainians about it. they say it is a bit premature right now to make any kind of decisions. of course it runs into the same kind of issues that nato membership would bring. not only would russia probably not go for it if the u.s. were to sign a binding guarantee with ukraine saying, hey, we will protect you in the event russia
invades. but it also gets to the issue of not wanting to put u.s. and western forces in direct confrontation with the russians. so it is very preliminary at this point. the russians are in a different position than they were in before the war. so there are considerations whether they might be more willing to accept something like this. ultimately it runs into the same problem, which is they do not want to get in a direct shooting war with the russians. >> that is my question. is it is the same obstacle with a different name. >> well, it is the same security guarantee. they want something like an article 5 which says in the treaty, if one nation is attacked, all are aing tad. they will respond in that way. that is what they want. the discussion has just started. this is just the beginning of the conversation of this. but nations are taking it seriously, discussing it themselves, amongst themselves. and i think there is an argument
that says we should think about this in a new way. that is russia is in a different place than on february 23rd. >> explain that. how does that change the calculus? >> it is a pariah. it is by itself. it doesn't really even have china in this case. china has abstained, as we know. it is a different conversation. but russia is isolated and damaged and might be willing to go into some kind of an agreement that says that the united states and germany and turkey can give a security guarantee to ukraine. that would be okay with them. >> if what, they get some ukrainian land? what do you see the trade being? >> i think the trade is neutrality. i think ukraine's willingness -- ukraine thought it was applying to nato. it wanted to be in nato, for all the reasons we just said.
it is concluded. it is not going to happen now. ukraine needs security now. it is looking for another way to secure itself to make sure it is not attacked. one way is neutrality. it wants a guarantee. but the ability in this treaty to protect itself. it needs a strong military. they need support from the outside. >> they had been invaded in russia. it's not like let bygones be bygones at the end of this, right? >> nato membership is a part of their constitution. they put it in their constitution after russia invaded the first time and annexed crimea. this is going to be not a cut and dry issue. they have to have a referendum. they have to decide. not just that zelenskyy can
decide to give it up on his own. some european countries believe joining the eu could be a feasible option for ukraine, a middle ground that could provide them with a level of security if are issue that were to try to attack them again in the future. right now they are not a nato member or member of the eu. but they said it's not the same. the eu does not provide the same kind of military security umbrella that nato would. . >> i want to ask you about about some incredible video out of belgorod. in this video we see what appear to be low-flying helicopters attacking -- this is an attack on a fuel depot there.
just look at this. unbelievable. and these are reports of a ukraine yann strike inside russia. what does that do to the situation? >> it tells the russians that the ukrainian military is very capable. it's got good intelligence. it knows exactly where the fuel tanks are. it is able to get there. it has got its air force in terms of both the fixed wing but also these helicopters armed and capable of doing damage. >> can you believe that looking at this? >> yes. >> you can? this doesn't surprise you? >> the ukrainian military is very competent, very capable. they are push back the russians in a lot of places. >> that is bold. that is some bold phofls we are watching on that video. thank you very much. after weeks of heavy shelling the ukrainian city of irpin lies in ruins. one woman who fled is helping do what she can to help others get out.
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a ukrainian woman who escaped irpin is paying it forward by helping others escape to safety. these are pictures that anastasia took just before she fled earlier this month. she saw a bomb explode in her neighbor's yard. this is what irpin looks like now. the area is so dangerous and still such a ravaged war zone. joining me is anastasia. i'm so glad you did make it out. i'm sure you have seen the pictures of what it looks like now. what is it like to see that? . >> it is definitely very strange to see the town that has been so peaceful. it has been a very family town.
it's the suburbs where people would come with their family to settle down and live. right now over 50% destroyed. it's been awful for sure. >> when you were there, you saw a bomb land in your neighbor's yard? . >> yeah. so we were actually having lunch. we went upstairs. because honestly we were in the further part of town where you don't hear air raid sirens. so we only hid when we heard explosions close to us. we didn't hear anything close. we decided to go upstairs and have lunch. while we were literally eating soup, there was an explosion in the neighbor's yard. honestly, all the marvel movies you can see, you can never get what it is like. the entire building is shake. the sound just fills everything. it was very scary. . >> and at that moment, what did you decide?
>> we actually decided to still stay in irpin. once again in retrospect, it wasn't the best idea. but we were home, we were with our parents. we had a basement and everything. we really thought this would be over, i guess, sooner rather than later. >> ultimately, you did get out. you decided to come here to lviv. but you're not going to leave the country. you want to stay. why do you feel so strongly about staying? >> i really believe in our army. i believe the more people stay here the more help we can give to our army. even though i have an active u.s. visa, and my boyfriend has one too, i guess we could leave. but i want to stay here and help and celebrate our victory at home. >> when do you think that would come? >> soon, i hope. >> you're actually considering going back to the kyiv area soon. >> yes. . >> you think it's safe enough?
>> i don't think anyplace is entirely safe is safe in ukraine right now. i only had a backpack with me for the last month or so. . >> i was going to say. what did you leave with? >> honestly, the day that the war started we had no idea what was happening. i said, okay, i should probably pack. i was so sure nothing was going to happen. i only had a couple of sweaters. i took a dry breakfast for some reason. but i did not take any kind of medicine or a hairbrush. but i had bananas with me. honestly, it is so weird. on the day you pack, people put the strangest things in their backpacks. a friend of mine took a cooking pot with her. why? but still. and it shows how much no one was prepared for war. no one was really ready for
this. . >> the things you decide to do in that split second is so interesting when you look back on it. the reason i was talking about kyiv. things have changed enough where you feel like it's okay, the ukrainian forces have performed well enough where you feel you could go? >> honestly, there hasn't been a day i haven't thought about going back. the reason i'm not, i know i can do more from here. when we were in irpin we were in the basement 24/7. you can't do much from the basement. you don't have internet. here we can volunteer, help, and help other people. it seems our army is pushing back strongly, and i would love to go back home. >> it is so nice to meet you. please be safe. and we do hope it is soon. >> thank you. more on breaking news. reports this morning that the
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joining us now is maggie haberman, cnn political analyst and washington correspondent for the "new york times". to be on the f a fly on the wall of this six-hour interview, maggie. what do we know about it? >> reporter: we know very little so far. he sat for six hours. i believe he did not invoke executive privilege, which is interesting given how long this was. yes, people said he volunteered information. remember, jared kushner was not physically at the white house while the capitol attack was first under way. he could speak to the former president's state of mind and what he was saying about the idea that the election was basically over. even if he continued with legal challenges, there wasn't really anywhere to go. itch imagine all of that was focused on, as well as a lot of
witness have been asked about mark meadows. i think that likely factored in as well. >> we have learned that the department of justice is expanding its probe. it is not just looking at people who physically stormed the capitol. but according to your reporting and the reporting of your colleagues, looking a the a particular subpoena, it appears they're looking now at people much closer to president trump. what have you learned? >> we know they are looking at a wide range of people. it is people who stormed the capitol. there have been a lot of arrests. now they are trying to look at people who were involved in rally organizing and planning. what that ends up looking like, brianna, remains to be seen. there are free speech issues that i think lawyers for people who could be charged, if they are, will be raised. so far what we know of is people pwhor witnesses. whether charges are ultimately filed remains to be seen. but it is at a time there are a
lot of questions about what doj is up to. >>? i want to ask you about a fascinating report that you have out yesterday, which is about the white house photographer who took so many pictures of president trump and a book that she was expecting to publish, as so many white house photographers do. that's what pete souza did. in the end, she decided not to punish her book because in part because president trump published his. >> my colleague eric lipton and i published yesterday. trump's former white house photographer with whom he had somewhat of a contentious relationship. a lot of people said he was tough on her much of the time and was focused on her product because he likes looking at pictures of himself and spends a fair amount of time on that in looking for the best images.
she was interested in putting together as a book of photos. these are public domain. that's how this works. she had had some discussions with people around trump. it was made clear that he was interested in some cut of her profits. and then there was some discussion whether he would participate. and then all of a sudden he was going ahead with his own book of white house photos. and there are a lot of people around, you know, trump, even people who really like him who are put off by what happened here. sit hard to do that when trump is such a dominating figure who is going to criticize people for doing things he doesn't like. it is a chilling effect. wanting a piece of the profit is something i have never heard of before. >> that is unusual. what also stood out in your reporting is as you were reporting this out, he, former
president trump reached out to the photographer. is that right? >> right. they had not spoken since he left the white house. after we asked questions he suddenly reached out for the first conversation. it was pleasant. it was talking about working together in the future. but this is a move, brianna, we have seen from former president trump many times. he thinks somebody might be saying something about him, he reaches out to them. it is notable it did not happen until we started our reporting. . >> fascinating. very fascinating reporting. i encourage everyone to read it. maggie, thank you so much for being with us. >> reporter: thank you. the horrific aftermath in a small ukrainian border town following a monthlong russian occupation. a reporter who was there describes what he saw next. plus, what would americans do if they were in the same position as the ukrainians are now? would they stay and fight or flee the country.
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this is what it looks like now. scenes of total destruction. christoph righter was there. and he has written about what he saw once the russians withdrew. i had a chance to speak about it overnight. christoph, what was it like in trostyanets after a month-long occupation by the russians? >> we arrived as the first foreign journalists probably 36, 40 hours after the last russians had left, which the local people didn't know first because there is no working mobile line system, no land lines. so when we came it was basically the first hours to bear out through their city which many hadn't done for one month. there were incredible scenes of people meeting each other knowing if the others were still
alive. some are tears in their eyes to see the destruction. others had tears in their eyes because they were happy to have survived. it was freezing cold and extremely emotional moment for the people. . >> what a moment. what a moment that must have been. we don't have much visibility, or haven't to this point, on what life has been like for people under russian control. when the russians were in control there, how did they treat the civilian population? >> this is the interesting thing. it is like a case study where you really had russians, 600 -- up to 600 for one month. and when they entered they were basically indifferent. they did not interact with the local population. they came, took the empty police
head quarter, the train station, took base there. but then after one week approximately they were shelled for the first time and they learned rather quickly that everybody in the town was against them. the ukrainians would shell very precisely, tank positions, et cetera. the russians had food rations for only a few days. so what they did was to loot supermarkets, loot local people, and to become very aggressive towards everybody, basically, out of panic, paranoia that everyone who gets near them could be an informer, and then they get shelled and die.
so they introduced a curfew after 3:00 in the afternoon. whoever was out on the street risked to be shot and many were shot or captured, then tortured in the headquarters of the interrogation in the basement of the train station. >> what about the russian troops themselves? the people you talked to, what do they tell you about how much the russians knew about the war and what their mission actually was. . >> some people, like the head of security of the big chocolate factory, he talked with the russians because they accepted him as kind of an official spokesperson or somebody who was important. and the russians asked him in mid-march, late march, where are we? have we taken kyiv? is zelenskyy dead? they had no clue what was happening in the country. there was no plan.
there was nothing. >> that is truly remarkable, that the russians in the town had no idea what was going on. they were asking locals who were watching the news to tell them the status of their invasion. our thanks to christoph for that. we just haven't had a window into what life was like or is like in some of the areas that are under russian occupation. so that was simply fascinating. we do have breaking news, though, this morning. what could be a ukrainian air strike from helicopters over the border in russia. what happened? we'll give you the latest details about what could be an extraordinary attack, the first of its kind. thousands of hungry people trapped in besieged mariupol. russians are blocking aid from getting in and residents from getting out.
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in washington, d.c. there was a tornado warning last night. i have never seen anything like that in all my years here. >> it has been a very rough march. in fact, with the 38 we picked up over the last three days, we have march '22 as the highest number of tornados in march of any year since we have been counting since 1950. we are not seeing any significant severe weather yet. but behind this is the cold air. i hope you are headed to spring break, michigan, buffalo. there is snow on the ground today. watch out for snow squalls. we know what happened with that multicar crash in the snow squall that happened a couple of days ago. florida will have some. we will see snow. one to three inches. a squall could be six. other than that, we warm back up. back to normal for a couple days across parts of the northeast
and warmer than normal across the southwest. >> i'll take it. chad myers, thank you. >> you're welcome. as the pandemic subsides, many american families are feeling they are in dire need of a vacation. just as coronavirus is lifting, travel pricing is increasing. >> we were just going to come and blow it out. >> reporter: for families who haven't traveled much in the last two to three years. . >> it has given me time to save up and to get organized and budget it. >> they're determined to take a trip in spite of the sticker shock. >> from here in california where tourists are paying some of the highest gas prices in the nation, to higher airfares, higher hotel rates like here in miami beach where the average price is $500 a night. on kayak, the average to panama
city, florida, is $494. in march 2019, that would have averaged just over $300. this family flew from milwaukee, wisconsin to los angeles. . >> once we got out here, we realized things are very expensive right now. >> reporter: they decided against a rental car. the average rental car in the u.s. averages $76 a day. more than $20 higher than two years ago. but even without a rental car >> we are spending more money in uber than we are in flying out here. >> reporter: that's likely because regular gas is on average more than $4 a gallon this month. the highest of any month in history. up from $2.51 in march 2019. that is affecting the owner of starline tours, who says the company typically spends 100 doctors a day on fuel for the buses. now they are spending $220 every day. >> we have still maintained our prize at the moment but we are going to have to look at going to full summer pricing right now
rather than waiting until the summer. >> reporter: kayak shows $300 a night, up $70 since march 2019. even theme parks will cost you more, from paid express lines to pricier food. >> it is adding up. it's expensive to just eat. these boys don't play around. they're hungry all the time. >> some people are accepting it. now they are maybe making adjustments along the way. >> reporter: while the cheapest disney ticket stayed the same price since 2019 there are fewer days priced at value season. mousesavers shows the most expensive types of tickets at disney planned and disney world during the busiest season jumped 11% from two years ago. wherever they go, however much it costs, families say they need to get out of the house now and will scale back later. . >> i think we will make a
smaller summer vacation because we made a bigger spring break vacation. and "new day" continues right now. >> this is cnn breaking news. all right. welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. it is friday, april 1st. i'm in western ukraine. brianna keilar is in washington. we begin with what could be significant breaking news. a potential extraordinary development, reports of a ukrainian strike inside russia across the border. we have this new video in russia near the ukrainian border near kharkiv. belgorod's governor says it was attacked by two ukrainian helicopters which entered the
territory flying at low al altitude. cnn cannot confirm this claim. if true, it would be a significant development and a counterattack. a reprisal attack by the ukrainians. the russians have been attacking ukraine's fuel depos for weeks. moments ago, russia did respond saying this could hurt the negotiations. we know that vladimir putin has been informed of this. chri christiane amanpour will join us. . >> six weeks of war, six weeks of loss, needless suffering illustrated by the new video we are about to shaoe you. a 3-year-old boy named dima wounded during shelling in mariupol lying in bed in the children's ward crying out for his father. i want to warn you this video is distressing, heartbreaking, it