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held to account over the handling of allegations over sexual misconduct by a member of government. he now leads downing street with a legacy defined by covid- 19, and his response, meyer, and a series of scandals. >> thank you all very much. thanks to all of you for joining us. ac 360 with anderson starts now. i want to show you a little boy named cooper roberts, he's eight years old, on monday, he was at the parade in highland park, illinois with his mom and his twin brother, lee. his mom was shot in her leg and foot, luke was hit by shrapnel, both are thankfully out of the hospital. cooper was shot in the chest. he's gone through several rounds of surgery and tonight
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his family says he's now paralyzed from the waist down. an eight-year-old boy, his brother, mom, all with the kind of wounds that men and women came home from afghanistan or iraq, signed up knowing it might happen, cooper, luke and keeley, they just went to a parade. friends of the family have set up a gofundme page to help cover ethical expenses and therapy. in the meantime the gunman's father is speaking out telling abc news, he has no regrets about helping his son in 2019 obtain the documentation needed to buy the weapons he did, despite his son suicide attempt , threats to kill his family and police confiscating 16 knives, a dagger and a sword from an earlier that year. >> filled out the consent form to allow my son to go through the process. whatever that entails.
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>> the killer's father told abc news he had no inkling his son would do this and said his threats against the family were taken out of context and that he can't understand why his son did what he did. could the gunman's father face any criminal charges for his role in signing documents that help them obtain weapons after threatening to kill the whole family? >> prosecutors have been telling us that it's simply too early for that. but we got some more insight into how this could play out in the coming days and weeks. the states attorney, eric rinehart told cnn earlier that as we talked about, the idea that this father sponsored his son's application for a permit to obtain a firearm here in illinois, that action, in and of itself, the state attorney says, is not a criminal offense.
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that would be enough to file any kind of criminal charges but the prosecutor does say that they are looking at much more than that, and trying to figure out if there's any kind of evidence that could be turned up that would point some sort of liability or some sort of culpability or involvement at least beyond what the father has been saying so far. but right now, it appears it's simply too early for prosecutors to have any kind of evidence -- >> ed, obviously, we've been talking about this eight-year- old boy, cooper roberts, what more are you learning about cooper and his family tonight? >> simply devastating news. this eight-year-old boy, cooper roberts, he remains in the hospital. we are told, that he is on a ventilator, and sedated and has been so since he was taken to the hospital on monday afternoon but since we learned about his identity, a few days ago, i interviewed a gentleman, who was here, a witness to the chaos when the shooting erupted, he was here visiting a
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family member, he's from texas. he actually, we showed him the picture of cooper and the gentleman we spoke with, administered cpr to the young boy there on the street, moments after he had been shot. his own son was missing in the chaos, and he had a gentleman come up and say that he was a doctor and the gentleman passed cooper off to this other gentlemen, to help care for him and he was incredibly emotional, thinking about the look in the boy's eyes as he stood over him there on the ground. >> >> he was non-responsive. i just prayed over him. i tried to help him the best i could. i tried to get some just compressions on the boy and then, someone came and told me they were a doctor. i asked if he could take over. i felt like he was more qualified and my son was missing and i couldn't focus. my own son was missing. that was top of mind.
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>> anderson, you really get a sense, the emotion in his eyes, the chaos, the magnitude of this moment, that so many people were dealing with, trying to figure out how to make the right decision and saving lives, finding your own loved ones. that is the kind of frantic, frightening seeing that these families were under. >> that gofundme page for the roberts family remains on the bottom of your screen. looking at photos of katie goldstein, one of the seven murdered on monday, drives home the cruelty that a holiday event should be turned into the horror of parents seeing their children shot or in katie's instance, seeing her daughter die. katie goldstein story, the life she lived and how she died, and the roberts story, all we are learning about everyone touched by this. it's a reminder not to become
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numb to it all because the people at that parade were not the latest in a terrible trend, they were distinct individuals who lead their lives, brought meaning to this world and joy to the people around them. i spoke with katie's husband, craig, shortly before airtime. >> thank you so much for being with us. as i told you before we began, i'm so sorry for your loss, for your daughter's loss. your wife sounds like such an incredible person. i wonder if we could just start by you telling us a little about her? >> i could tell you what type of person she was. she was a generous and self- sacrificing friend. but she was never a doormat. she had an incredible sense of humor. she was the quietest person in the room. she rarely had a bad
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word to say about anybody. but she wasn't nacve. one of my friends said something about her, which i've been thinking so much about, for the last two days, he said something like katie was such a good person, and when you were in her presence, you became a better person. and i understand what he meant, she carried herself with such grace when you were with her, you wanted to be your best self . and i think that so true. >> i heard a story that you met i believe, in college, but it
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wasn't until 20 years later, when you met again, and can you just tell me about the moment you met again because as i understand, something happened in that moment? >> 20 years later, i realized that katie was the one that got away. i called her, in milwaukee, from chicago. i thought we would be on the phone for five minutes. we were on the phone for an hour. it's like we were still best of friends. and, when i hung up the phone, i thought to myself, i could fall in love with her. we met two weeks later for coffee, what could have been an hour, but we went next door to a bookstore, we sat on a sofa
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and we leafed through a book. and i thought to myself, i'm going to fall in love with her. i'm going to marry her. when we compared notes, afterwards, i learned at that same time, she was thinking the same thing. i say this without exaggeration, from that first date, my life has been a fairytale. >> what a blessing. >> thank you, it's so true. it was so true. >> and you raised two beautiful daughters together, and from what i understand, she loved nothing more than a night
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playing games with your daughters, i mean, she was all about her family, about you and your family? >> yes, you know, when we got married, she stopped working, because we wanted to spend more time together. and when the girls were born, of course, she wanted to be home with the girls. katie always had, she always had a smile on her face. she was always in the best of moods. and it's not because she was a simple person. it's because, that's what was in her heart. >> i heard when your daughter, i think she was in a band and had performances and katie went every night, she went every single night, which, a lot of parents might go for one night but she went for everyone, which is a lot.
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yeah, it gives me chills to hear you talk about her because gosh, i wish i met her. and i think a lot of people probably do, who are listening tonight. can you talk about why you wanted to speak? so many people, i understand the desire to not have the person you have loved and the person who you love, not just be a statistic were you know, a picture that flashes across the tv screen. can you talk about what you hope comes out of you talking? >> katie was a private person. when i say that, she was very engaged in the world, but she did not seek attention. and i feel like in some ways, it's a violation that i'm talking about her. but i feel like it is important
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that people view her as a full person. i want people to bear witness. i don't want people to be numb to events. i feel like i'm an ineffectual person, but the best i can do is perhaps, paint a picture of katie, that will motivate someone to help with violence. >> i'm not going to ask you to replay the events of that day. i understand that your daughter was worth with katie, your daughter saw the gunmen, and
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told katie, we have to run and that they ran together and they were together when katie was shot. and, that your daughter was able to say, i love you, to katie? in all the horror of this, and there's nothing good that comes out of this but in all the horror, that is at least a small blessing, i would imagine, to know that katie heard that word love, in that moment. >> i can share with you what i understand happened. they heard a pop, pop, pop. katie, and other people thought they heard firecrackers. my daughter looked up at the roofs, and she saw the gunmen and said mom, we have to run. as they were running, and katie dropped to the ground, cassie,
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hid behind a garbage can, leaned out, and she said mom, i love you and with that, katie closed her eyes and she stopped breathing. it's important for my daughter to think that katie heard her and my daughter imagined that when katie heard that she was safe, it was then, that she was at peace and closed her eyes. i know that sounds like a fantastic story but if this could be true of anyone, it would be true of katie. and then someone ran and snatched up my daughter and said, you have to run. i was at
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home, i was able to find her, a few hours later. >> craig, thank you for sharing a little of katie with us. i know you said she was a private person, but i appreciate you opening up the window and letting us see her incredible smile and learn about her, and also for reminding us to bear witness. because i think it's so important, when it so easy to just see something on television, on the news, and think that you've heard it before, and it's another thing that has happened, it just becomes a part of the background noise and we can't allow that to happen. i appreciate you adding her voice and making us bear witness. thank you. >> yes, that is my worry, i
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don't want people to become numb. thank you very much for giving me an opportunity to talk. >> thank you. up next, the justice department, digging deeper into the former presence fake elector plot. and later, boris johnson stepped downwn as british prime minister, tatake a look at what happppens next and what it mean for the u.s., that's the big question. that's ahead.
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boxer shorts and a shirt. he was not allowed to get dressed until investigators cleared the house. sources tell cnn the rate was a part of the investigations into efforts to overturn the election. new details on how the criminal probe has evolved from cnn's sarah marie. >> and battleground states across the country, gop activist republican party chairs and even a state senate president. >> i'm the senate president of arizona, and it's our job to make sure we have fair and accurate elections. >> they are getting hit with subpoenas. as early as this week, some republicans tie to the plaintiff put forward they collectors for trump are set to turn over information to federal investigators. >> we have something they think is a crime, they will bring an indictment and that's when you will find out what they are doing. >> the justice departments
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investigation began with the violence that erupted at the capitol. charges against more than 800 alleged rioters, including the leaders of the proud boys and oath keepers. in recent months, it's expanded to cover the fake elector scheme and seven battleground states, with subpoenas to prominent republicans, georgia chairman david shaper and party chair kelly ward. >> do not let this election be stolen. >> the probe inching closer to trump as investigators rated jeffrey clark phone, the former official who pushed donald trump's voter fraud claims. >> even brought along something i've never seen before or heard of, and electronic sniffing dog and they took all of the electronics from my house. >> also sees electronics from attorney john eastman, who peddled baseless fraud claims and pushed a legal theory that parents could block the certification. >> all we are demanding a vice president pence, is this
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afternoon at 1:00, he let the legislators of the state look into this. >> be on the doj pro, a separate criminal investigation is escalating in georgia where investigators subpoenaed key trump allies. the district attorney said more subpoenas may be headed to trump's inner circle. >> we are going to do our due diligence. >> unearthing new details like trump's eagerness to go to the capitol january 6th, and the legal risks that went with it. >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy. keep in touch with me. we are going to get charged with every crime imaginable if
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we make that movement happen. >> we are going to the capitol. >> those revelations increasing trump's criminal exposure and raising the odds that he could face repercussions. >> the community is hoping that pat cipollone can cooperate cassidy hutchinson's testimony and also add to it? >> if you just look at cassidy hutchinson's testimony, obviously of come under fire so they want to cooperate that but she also testified about key conversations with cipollone raised concerns that people could have weapons, somebody could die when violence broke out, and he also raised key concerns about the legal exposure that people at the white house including the former president, could have, if donald trump went to the capitol which from cassidy's testimony, we know that he wanted to do. so this will be important to the committee and could be important to the justice department as they way what to do. >> joining us now is andrew mckay. how do you think, how significant do you think it is
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that the committee will finally hear from pat cipollone? >> he's an important witness for many different reasons. the idea that what he says, could bolster or support the credibility of cassidy hutchinson and that's certainly true but it's that he is significant in his own right. the notorious meeting on january 3rd, where trump had pretty much a showdown with folks from the justice department and clark debating over there strategies to try to force the justice department to overturn the results of the election and cipollone's observation of what he saw and heard, and thought about what happened on january 6th. so he's an incredibly significant witness for many reasons. >> some of the subpoenas that the department of justice issued two people allegedly involved call for documents to be headed over to the department of justice by tomorrow. what kinds of material do you
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think would be most helpful to investigators? >> you know, investigators always start with communications, documents, and evidence that connect people together, right, so you are always looking for emailed, looking for text message records, telephone logs, things that connect witnesses talking to each other about the issues that are relevant, things that go to establishing the existence of agreements between people to take joint actions, those are all the building blocks of conspiracy charges, so i would expect those are some of the basic things that the department is looking forward with those things. >> you think the department of justice frankly, cares whether or not the criminal referral is given by the select committee? i mean there's no reason that the department of justice doesn't have to wait for some sort of criminal referral, it's not an actual thing, right?
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>> reporter: that's right. the referral is, if the committee makes a referral, it's really just kind of windowdressing at this point. the department is well aware of what's going on, i'm sure they are watching each one of these hearings, very closely, to include the attorney general, himself, to the extent that he has time to do so. nato need a referral from congress to take any action, they are also not compelled to take any action on the basis of a referral from congress or anyone else. they have enormous authority to do that on their own volition. i'm sure they are engaged with that already. >> i want to ask you about this new revelation that you and the former director james comey were selected for intensive tax audits by the internal revenue service, the probability of both of you having this done to you, is extremely rare. the head of the irs who was appointed by trump has referred
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the agencies general but denies that they were politically motivated. do you believe they were politically motivated? >> well, i don't know the answer to that, anderson, and i think it's absolutely worthy of investigation. i mean, the highly unlikely circumstance that james comey and i were both selected at random, combined with the absolute, you know, well known facts of how we were both pursued and harassed, and targeted by the former administration, when you put those things together, obviously it raises clear questions that need to be investigated. i'm a little concerned by the head of the irs, they're somewhat reflexive comments that indicate almost a pre- judgment of, oh my gosh, this could never have happened here, when we know the former administration and president trump were engaged on multiple
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fronts and trying to use the structures of government, the institutions we rely on for trump's own benefit, so yeah, is there something to look at here? absolutely there is. i hope they do it in a thorough, transparent way. >> if it's politically motivated, that would be extraordinary. i really appreciate it. the warning from russian resident putin and the message for him from zelenskyy, and this comes as the war is causing a massive hunger crisis in many places, next. lemons. lemons, lemons, lemons. look how nice they are. the moment you becom an expedia member, you can instantly start ving on your travels. so you can go and see all those, lovely, lemony, lemons. ♪
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putin signaled that his invasion of ukraine will not end any time soon. he said the conflict will drag on until, quote, the last ukrainian is left standing. he also blamed the west for what he called, encouraging and justifying genocide against people in the donbas region. this comes as zelenskyy that he would not succeed territory to russia for peace. >> ukrainians are not ready to give up their land. as new territories of the russian federation, this is our land. we've always said this. and we will never give it up. >> cholesterol word joint us.
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clarissa, can you connect the dots for us between ukraine, and what you are seeing in somalia? >> anderson, somalia is no stranger to hunger. there was a famine here in 2011 that killed according have 1 million people and in 2017 the country came close to famine, strong action from the government and the international community averted it but right now, it's as if somalia is in the eye of the perfect storm. there have been four failed rainy seasons. there's been an economic downturn on the back of the covid 19 pandemic, and now, the impact of the war in ukraine, thousands of miles away, is threatening to push this country over the edge. >> on the edge of the camp just outside somalia's capitol , mohammed shows us the fresh graves of those who have died here. >> there are 30, she says, in
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toto. victims of this countries record drought. as the cab administrator, mohammed is tasked with burying the dead. from that corner to this one she says, this line of graves is all children. >> it must wait on your heart to have to bury these children. >> you feel such sadness when you bury a baby, she tells us. i my mother and i can feel their pain as a parent. some 500 yards away,, has yet to visit the graves of her three children. severely malnourished, they died after contracting measles. i cannot bear to go, she says. the grief i would feel. >> eight agencies warned that somalia is marching towards another famine , nearly half the
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country is hungry. some 800,000 people have been forced from their homes this year alone. >> two months ago, this camp didn't even exist, now there are more than 870 families living here. >> conditions are dire, the world attention is elsewhere. thousands of miles from the front lines of the war in ukraine, the impact of russia's invasion is being felt here. food and fuel prices have skyrocketed, as russia's blockade of ukrainian wheat threatens global supplies. >> the wheat that is consume d, 92% comes from russia and ukraine. so the price of wheat has doubled in some areas, you
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know, 150% increase. >> you climate change, covid, but the war in ukraine is really threatening to push somalia over the edge. >> definitely yes. >> what about if the war continues in ukraine? if the blockade remains in place. what impact will that have here? >> i can't imagine what would be the impact. >> the stabilization at the hospital offers a glimpse of what may be to come. there are no empty beds and many, desperately sick children. dr. mohammed works around the clock to keep her youngest patients alive. >> how many years have you been working in this hospital? >> eight years. >> have you ever seen so many children brought in with malnutrition? >> this is the worst situation i have seen. the number of kids is increasing day by day. are you overwhelmed? >> in one bed, we meet serena and her four-year-old son, i
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already lost three children in the strap, she says, softly. >> you came here to save your son? how do you cope with that kind of loss, to lose three children? how do you get through the day? >> i can't cope with the situation, she says. i just pray my remaining children will survive. >> it's a prayer shared by so many women here. one that the world has yet to hear. >> clarissa, is the international community aiding, are they listening? >> the real problem right now, for aid agencies is funding, the funding is just not coming in, in part, because the world is understandably focused and consumed with what's going on in ukraine, but according to
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the un, they haven't even raised a third of the $1.46 billio n that they need to avert a major catastrophe. and some of the people we've been talking to on the ground, say that we are talking about potentially, a matter of weeks, not months, before parts of this country could be in a state of famine, and it stands to be even worse, than what we've seen before, so it's's a dire situation, but the challenges of raising the funding that so desperately neededed are very real, anderso.
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the man of the moment in the uk isn't a man, it's a cat, larry the cat has lived at number 10 downing street for 11 years. as of yesterday, he had seen to british prime minister's, going out with the resignation of johnson, larry has outlasted three of them. johnson, who like to compare himself with churchill was done in by a series of scandals and resignations in his own cabinet. underlying was the sense within his party, that their leader simply wasn't playing it straight with them. >> this is the moment he longed to avoid. >> to you, the british public, i know there will be many people who are relieved, and
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perhaps, quite a few that will be disappointed. i want you to know how sad i am to be giving up the best job in the world. >> it's the culmination of a gruesome 24 hours, boris johnson saw his government global around him after he was accused of lying about knowing about allegations of sexual misconduct against one of his cabinet members. the latest in a string of controversies that surrounded that prime minister. >> 2020 was meant to be a year for realizing his brexit ideas. >> there were a few coronavirus patients at the hospital, i shook hands with everybody, you will be pleased to know. >> just last month he was booed in public before narrowly surviving a confidence vote by members of his own party following the last scandal, party gate, where johnson was
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photographed attending multiple large gatherings including one for his own birthday during the strict covid lockdown that band everyone else from doing the same. >> his own party, have concluded that he's unfit to be prime minister. >>'s attempt lasted to protect a member of parliament who had breached lobbying rules, added to the list of scandals that tarnished the administration. nearly 60 members of parliament from his own party, resigned, he desperately tried to steady the ship but the tide turned quickly against him. even the newly appointed uk finance minister told the prime minister to do the right thing and go now. just 24 hours after vouching for him. >> do you think he -- >> he's determined to deliver for this country. >> support for johnson had evaporated and he got the message loud and clear. >> as we've seen at westminster, the herd instinct
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is powerful when the herd moves, it moves. and, my friends, and politics, no one is remotely indispensable . >> it's not known when johnson will leave the stage, with the team suggesting he may state on as caretaker prime minister until as late as october. >> he needs to go completely, none of this nonsense. he's inflicted lies, fraud and chaos in the country. >> johnson's exit leap the question of who might take his place, it's a difficult choice for an already fragile democracy. >> what happens next, how quickly could his successor be decided? >> to answer the process, typically a leadership contest might take six weeks or 40 days
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but their team is suggesting he might be staying on for three months. essentially, it means the number of people who are standing to be prime minister are whittled down to two by the parliament, the those two cabinets are put forward to the members of the conservative party in the country. so not mps, regular citizens. there are around 200,000 but what is so remarkable about the leadership contest is not only are they notoriously unpredictable but this one is wide open like never before. there's no consensus over who it might be. it might be someone on the far right, or perhaps a former defense minister who had a reality tv career. nobody knows. and that means the future of the direction of this country and the future of the conservative party are entirely, at this moment, up in the air, anderson. >> i appreciate it, thank you pay >> britney griner pleads guilty to drug charges in russia, what her legal team is saying about that, next.
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brittney griner had hoping for leniency after she pleaded guilty in today's trial. the basketball star has been held in russia since february. despite pleading guilty, she says she had no intent to commit a crime, and the hash oil was the result of her packing in a hurry, in her wordings. abby phillip joins me now. you interviewed brittney griner's wife last week where she called on u.s. officials to do more to bring brittney home. what are the details behind the decision to plead guilty? >> there was a lot of thought and deliberation around it. this is a complex situation in which she is in a legal system in which there is a 99% conviction rate. so, from what i'm told from sources close to griner is that she was advised by attorneys and experts that she should consider what is in the best interest of getting the shortest possible sentence because an acquittal is just very unlikely in this system. and just today we got a statement from her attorneys in
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russia, who basically were saying she pleaded guilty and is now asking for leniency on the part of russian authorities. it says that brittney sets an example by being brave. she decided to take full responsibility for her actions, as she knows she is a role model for many people. and considering the nature of her case, the insignificant amount of the substance, and b.g.'s personality and contributions to global and russian sport, the defense hopes the plea will be considered by the court as a mitigating factor and there will be no severe sentence. this is really critical because i think that while they hope for a deal that will bring her home, there is the possibility that even if she is convicted that she would remain there. and the lightest possible sentence is something that is of the utmost priority for her and her family as well. >> and when you spoke to brittney griner's wife, she asked for a meeting with president biden. has the white house been in
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contact with her? >> yeah, she did ask for a meeting with president biden and certainly was hoping for one in person. but we know that this week that president biden and vice president harris spoke with cherelle griner by phone. and anderson, we also learned today that president biden sent a letter to brittney griner through, you know, u.s. representatives in russia. we don't know what was said in that letter, but i'm also told tonight that president biden actually read the contents of a draft of that letter to cherelle griner in their phone conversation yesterday. that is, i think, a sign of their effort to reassure the griner family that a lot of effort is being put into bringing her home. of course this is just the beginning, still, of that process. but that is what i'm learning tonight, that president biden actually read the contents of that letter that he sent to brittney griner to her wife yesterday. >> and what's next in terms of
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actual sentencing? >> so, we're learning today from brittney griner's attorneys in russia that they expect that this trial will end by the beginning of august. so, even though she pleads guilty, there will still be a trial. and hopefully at the end of that trial, i think what they're hoping is that whatever the result of the trial, they'll be able to start the process of perhaps a negotiation to bring her home. anderson? >> abby phillip, appreciate it. thank you. up next, exploring the wonders of one of the last untouched places on earth, the land of patagonia in south america. when you have technology that's easier to controlol... that can s scale across all your clouds... we got that right? yeah, we got that. it's easier to be an innovator. so you can do more incredible things. [whistling]
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of the most wild and isolated places on earth? "patagonia: life on the edge of the world" premieres sunday at 9:00 on cnn. >> wow. i want to go there. the news continues. let's hand it over to kasie hunt let's hand it over to kasie hunt and "cnn tonight". -- captions by vitac -- >> so do i anderson. this is "cnn tonight." on the eve of what could be the biggest day yet for the january 6th committee, arguably the most significant witness yet set to appear before congressional investigators. we're going to have much more in just a second. first, we want to show you video just obtained by cnn in another january 6th probe, the federal criminal investigation. we now have body cam video of several agents raiding the home of former trump doj official