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tomorrow night at 9:00 right here on cnn. i'm pamela brown in washington. you're in the "cnn newsroom" on this saturday evening. a community comes together five days after a gunman tried to tear it apart. families that gathered for a fourth of july parade near chicago sent scrambling for their lives when a rooftop sniper opened fire on the ground. funeral services have begun for the seven people killed. three were buried yesterday, and today a rally was held for them. and the youngest victim of the massacre, 8-year-old cooper roberts, he was shot in the chest and is now paralyzed from the waist down. cnn's camilla burr naul has more on the community breaking the stranglehold of grief. >> reporter: as a way to heal steve visits this makeshift
memorial, takes pictures, and talks. >> i just want to confront this demon of carnage, if you want to call it that. and for me to do it i have to come here. >> reporter: he's lived in highland park for 26 years, and on july 4th went to the parade with his wife and grandchildren. >> we're 50 feet from the shooter and the easiest targets possible. and why we weren't shot i can't figure out. >> reporter: he heard the shots and ran, then saw the injuries and one of the dead. here he is on surveillance video. >> i just couldn't wrap my head around what had just happened. i kept trying to figure it out. and i guess i'm still trying to figure out what makes somebody this evil. >> reporter: it's the question this entire community is trying to answer. >> for the first two days i would say am i still sleeping? is this a nightmare?
wake me up because it cannot feel real. and you go through these waves where you're numb for a little bit and then you get angry and then you feel guilty and overwhelming sadness, and you go back to feeling numb, and this isn't what happened. >> reporter: she co-owned several businesses in the middle of the crime scene. all her stores are closed. >> before this all happened our street was meant to be a place that provided a safe and fun loving space for families, for kids. >> reporter: healing for her, she says, will come when she's allowed to reopen. >> we'll be able to re-claim it as this place of where we can all be together and be happy and heal together and just support one another. >> reporter: and little by little, in a business, in a neighborhood, and in a makeshift memorial, members of this community showing their strength. >> i will heal. i will absolutely heal. >> reporter: and this rally was
somber. it was emotional. we had eight different moments of silence. seven for those that were killed in this shooting and another one for those that were injured or who feel traumatized or affected by this shooting. this community simply coming together to support each other and also to demand action. a lot of the organizers talking about legislative action and change. they say that is what comes next. pam? >> all right, thank you so much, camilla. and earlier this evening i spoke with aaron stark. in 2018 he penned a letter called i was almost a school shooter where he documented his challenges with mental health as a teen. >> it'll help you as much as it helps them. we're in a dangerous spot right
now with this trend of arming the teachers and looking out for the kids who might be the threat in schools and maybe turning them into the fbi. what's that going to do to a kid in a position i was 25 years ago who's alone, depressed and abused and just sitting there hurting and someone thinks that they're a threat? >> and here's a little bit of our conversation earlier. >> i wanted to become the best monster. i was raised, told i was worthless, told i was nothing. and when you're told you're worthless enough you will believe it, and then you do everything you can to make the world agree with you. and that's what i was doing. the targets that i had planned i was either going to shoot a mall food court or my school food court but the victims were accidental. it wasn't about the people i had shot. the victims were intended to be my parents but by making me. i wanted them to deal with creating me. >> wow. >> and i think that if we look at it by -- people say these
days people do this just for fame, these school shooters are looking to be famous. i haven't seen anybody in that dark spot that wants to be famous. they want to be seen. i know i spent years thinking i would literally walk out of a room with friends and ask did you remember me when i leave, when i'm gone, do you remember i'm here? and i thought i was nothing. and when i -- i was literally in that spot, i had planned to get a gun, planned to commit the atrocity, and looking back now i didn't know it then but i was saying good-bye. and i was going and giving away my belongings. and i went to the one true friend i had at the time, and he saw the painiest in and brought me inside, just treat me like i was a person, sat me down, had a meal, had a shower. and it was -- it was the most humanizing and cathartic thing.
and i really feel we have a whole generation of people that are crying out for someone to tell them they're okay and that they're good, and they're finding it in the worst most toxic places possible. and so instead of having that friend that tells them they're going to be okay, they're having people say you're going to be okay but first that person has to pay, and that's how we end up with things like the reddit groups and the whole negative social subculture we have that seems to be dragging us down. and they -- in that group they will reward you for being the best bully. they'll teach you how to be the best troll. they'll show you how to be the meanest person and how to be the best monster. you get the positive affirmation you're craving your whole life. you get it from the worst possible place. >> you were so fortunate to have that person in your life that showed you acts of kindness. you went onto get married, have four kids, and come out to speak
about this to try to prevent future shootings. but you raise such an important point. there are so many others out there on reddit, these four chan channels and so forth. the average profile of a mass shooter is typically a young, white male. there was a survey from health statists that found of the men who reported daily feelings of anxiety or depression, less than half sought treatment. and you were actually one of the ones that did reach out for help. how do you reach people who aren't looking for help themselves, who feel that it's weak by reaching out for help? >> well, i think breaking that stereotype is very important. i think the concept of act like a man is the most toxic and dangerous thing that happened to men ever. i think we need to be able to be comfortable talking about our emotions and feelings and be able to express this publicly. if somehow the image of a bag hairy guy like me on stage crying about the pain i went
through in life helps someone else talk about their own pain, then keep going, keep talking because you never know who might listen. as men we are taught that the way we should express our emotions when we're hurt is with aggression, we should get angry and we should hurt people. but fundamentally that pain we feel, that i felt when i was in my darkest spot, there's really not a difference in that pain than there is in a pain a model feels when she's in her car outside a photo shoot when she's throwing up in a cup. we're manifesting our pain in entirely different ways but at the bottom of it is self-loathing and self-deprecation. men express our pain with violence. we're taught from an early age we need to have a stiff upper lip, women internalize it and express their pain with self-loathing and self-destruction and with eating disorders and with beauty disorders. that i think if we can see the
common thread that we have is that sense of self-loathing, it's sad, but that might be the one thing that binds us together. if we can see that it is, maybe we can start bringing out more emotion in men and letting them -- giving them a space to talk about these things safely. and know that it's actually a lot stronger to talk about these emotions publicly than not. i dare anyone one of these tough guys to say it's not manly to talk about this. do what i do once. get up on stage one time and say what happened in your darkest time in your life. then you'll see strength. >> there's something so liberating and freeing about talking about your emotions, what you have been through, and you have had the courage to do that on a national stage. i'm curious as you look at all these mass shootings one after another, do you think the problem is only getting worse? or is there any hope on the horizon in your view? >> i think there is hope because i think awareness and communication is key. and the more we talk about it,
the more we remove the stigma of talking about it, the more that we open up about the feelings of men in pain, the feelings of how close you can get to that dark and how common it is that people get to that dark spot. there's -- there's a very small sliver of people that will actually fall after an attack, but there's a large gray area of people who think they could, should or might. and that group of people that think they're worthless, those are the ones we can talk to, to show them they matter. if you see someone in that spot that feels like they're worthless, show they matter. bring them into your fold, treat them like a friend. the simple friendship is what stopped me from committing a horrible atrocity. and we never know what a simple hello might stop the next person from doing. >> powerful message there. up next we continue to follow new developments in the capitol riot investigation. the panel just got key testimony from one of its most important
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one day after president biden signed an executive order on abortion access. but some activists say the president still isn't doing enough. cnn's brian todd from washington. >> reporter: pamela, intermittent and sometimes driving rainstorms did not stop protesters from marching over to white house. a very impassioned crowd as they gathered here and gave speeches and mafrmed to the white house to protest in front of the white house. some of them were briefed they were going to risk arrest if they pressed against the white house fence. many of them still did that and some actually tied themselves to the white house fence briefly, but we did not witness any arrests. there were some police around there, secret service in the crowds but they didn't interfere with what the protesters were doing as long as they were peaceful, and by and large they were peaceful almost all day long here. and the crowd starts to mill around here and music playing on the stage. i can tell you some of the themes of the overturning of roe
v. wade is really playing heavily on this crowd. and a couple of them is this. one is they're afraid the supreme court is not going to stop with the overturning of roe. several protesters told us if the case is before the court they'll use it to go after reproductive. another big concern is safety. several protesters told us abortion is not going to end with the overturning of roe. it's just going to be more unsafe. that's what they're worried about. we also talked to two young laid ezwho were sexual assault victims, and said for people like them seeking abortion they're afraid it's going to be much, much difficult from here. what they're doing is plotting strategy. this is now going to be a state by state issue with a lot of these battles tied up in court, and they're starting to prepare strategies for taking it to the
states now. pamela? >> brian todd, thank you. the justice department has released sobering new details about the january 6th attack on the capitol and the extensive planning by one right leaning extremist group. according to a filing at least one member of the oath keepers transported explosives to an area just outside d.c. and another member allegedly had a hand written document headlined "death list." it included the name of a georgia election official and that person's family member. the revelations come just hours after a key witness testified before the january 6th committee. former trump white house counsel pat cipollone spent nearly eight hours testifying yesterday. a person familiar with the closed door hearing told me that cipollone did assert privileges, executive privileges to a couple of questions from the committee. and the source also told me the committee asked cipollone a series of questions about pardons including potential pardons for the trump family and whether trump wanted to pardon
himself. my cnn colleagues and i have spoken to several sources who said his testimony was extremely helpful and will be revealed in future hearings. cnn's marshal cohen breaks it all down for us. >> reporter: hey, pam. pat cipollone spent several hours testifying yesterday to the january 6th committee. it was a real break for the panel because cipollone had resisted doing a formal deposition for more than a year, but he finally agreed to testify after a series of damning revelations at previous recent public hearings. so throughout his tenure as white house counsel pat cipollone often found himself pushing back against donald trump's most extreme orbit. for instance, cipollone was there when some of trump's outside advisers raised the idea of having him declare martial
law, and was also there when trump thought about sending in the military to seize voting machines. and cipollone was there when trump nearly appointed a well-known conspiracy theorist as a special counsel to chase down unhinged voter fraud allegations. now, perhaps most importantly cipollone was inside the white house on january 6th. previous witnesses have testified about his desperate effort to stop trump from marching to the capitol and also warned others that day they would have blood on their hands if trump did not intervene during the riot. cipollone's deposition was videotaped, and the committee will get its first chance on tuesday to publicly release some of the footage. tuesday's hearing is going to focus on the right-wing extremist groups that ardently supported donald trump's efforts to overturn the election -- the oath keepers, the proud boys, and many of their members stormed the capitol on january
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ukraine's president is standing firm that a concession of territory won't be part of any diplomatic negotiations to end the war. volodymyr zelenskyy talked to cnn's wolf blitzer on thursday. >> translator: ukrainians are not ready to give up their land as new territories of the russian federation. this is our land. we have always said this, and we will never give it up. >> as the war goes on in u, so do the battles. a ukrainian pop star is on the front lines and joins me now from kyiv along with his wife who is also a singer and songwriter. hello, you two. we've been following your story from the beginning, and i first want to talk about the reunion.
you had been in new york with the kids and then you flew back to ukraine recently, right, to be with your husband. what was that like to reunite after the war started? >> hi, everybody. yes, you're right. i don't know. i think now it's very quiet in kyiv and i hope it will be always like this. >> calm and quiet. >> yes, calm and quiet, not like it was two days ago. i hope it will be. and i know in ukraine in different towns it's not so quiet. >> so for us it is very
impressive because she flew a couple days ago, and my commanders let me to take a rest with her, and we're living like a peaceful life, how it was before during the last three days, and it's unbelievable for us. >> yeah, because normally when we interview you, taras, you're in a car and there's bombs going on outside. i remember the last interview we did with you that was the situation. now you're both reunited, and like you said you're just living a peaceful life right now. i mean, what a dichotomy that is. >> we try to imagine but i will go back in all this that you described up to one day. and it is very -- it's a big moment for us during these days.
we're now stick in our apartment in kyiv and try to catch every second and fill every second together. >> how long do you have together? >> that i stay here and remain -- it is our first meet for the last six months. >> yeah, yeah. and your kids are still back in the united states. i feel bad we're disrupting your peaceful time together. it's 4:32 a.m. there in kyiv, so thank you for staying up for this interview. >> as usual i want to say thanks for the american people. i want to say thanks for help, and thanks for parents that are watching our kids now and trying
to do all the best for them during my wife and me together here in kyiv. so fortunately, and thank god we have a big family in america. and we have so good friends and american citizens that helped us to go through this war. >> yeah. you're always so full of gratitude every time you come on. i want to ask you your president, volodymyr zelenskyy, is reiterating his call for president biden to visit kyiv, saying it would send a message to russia and the world. what do you think about that? do you agree? >> of course she -- >> i agree, of course i agree.
the world need to see to understand and to see by your eye what's going on here, to understand it by your heart, to understand it by your brain. and to make it you need to see it. >> and it will of course be very symbolic if and when biden will come to kyiv and to see everything. it will be a very powerful signal for russians, of course. >> and for all the world. >> and for all the world. >> i want to ask you -- >> so we're waiting here for joe biden. i don't ask him to come to kharkiv, to the front line. but i think it will be very useful for all freed world and for americans and ukraine if joe
biden comes to kyiv to see everything and to talk with our president. and of course when he will make some powerful decisions after that. >> you know, we were just talking about how right now this is sort of a glimpse in time for you where things are peaceful, but the reality is all around it in ukraine it is very dangerous, and you're going to have to go back to the front lines, taras. one of those dangerous places is kherson. she warned residents could be used as human shields by the russians. what have you heard of that inhumane tactic? >> i know that ukrainian military troops, ukrainian army are counter attacking in that region. and i know i clearly understand that it will be very hard to
recapture kherson because ukrainian army to theirselves -- me, i know we don't allow to shell the cities and civilian people. so recapturing kherson it will be a very difficult operation, but we will do everything to avoid -- not to in case civilians. everyone understands when it's war unfortunately civilian people die because guns are working, because big guns are working. >> it's a reality. well, thanks for sharing some
time with us again. i'm so glad you were able to reunite for a little bit at at least, and we'll check back in with you for sure. >> thank you, good-bye. up next, climate change is threatening one of america's greatest treasures, our national parks. we're going to have that report just ahead. when you have technology that's easier to control... that can scale across all your c clouds... we got that right? yeah, we got that. it's easier to be an innovator. so you can do more incredible things. [whistling] (vo) get verizon business unlimited from the network businesses rely on. like manny. event planning with our best plan ever. (manny) yeah, that's what i do. (vo) with 5g ultra wideband in many more cits, you get up to 10 times the spe at no extra cost. get verizon business unlimited from the network businesses rely on.
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in california wildfires are threatening some of the largest trees in the world. firefighters have been battling the fire in yosemite park since thursday. and already the blaze covers 700 acres and now getting close to some of of the park's roughly 500 iconic giant sequoia trees. yosemite isn't the only park under threat. how climate change could affect all of america's national parks. >> the land is disappearing before our eyes. >> reporter: so the rich history preserved at the harriet tubman underground railroad national historal park. we're under these neets because there is so much water here and it's standing water so the mosquitos are really bad. >> the mosquitos are bad so it's almost a requirement during the
summer. if harriet tubman were alive right now she'd recognize this landscape but she'd be shocked how quickly it's disappearing. >> reporter: as water from the chesapeake bay encroaches scientists project large portions of of the park will be under water by the year 2050 if planet warming emissions are not drastically curbed. riding tides threaten sites like this cemetery. >> over times these low-lying areas that were part of the important trails that allowed people to escape at that time will be lost in some places. >> reporter: more than 70% of national parks in the continental u.s. are at high risk from the effects of climate change. from sea level rise and flooding to extreme temperatures, drought and wildfires. historic flooding at yellow stone national park last month forced it to shutdown for more than a week.
at california's sequoia national park, home of the world's largest trees, wildfires have burned large swaths of the giant sequoia groves. wildfires and extreme heat have forced california's yosemite national park to close several times in recent years. meanwhile glacier national park in montana is rapidly losing its namesake feature. this is the glacier in 1910 versus 2021. >> these are places that tell critical stories of our history and people and culture, and these places are not going to be able to withstand these repeat assaults. >> reporter: more frequent, more intense natural disasters will drastically transform national parkland scapes. and then there's the economic loss. >> in 2021 alone our national parks saw over 297 million
visitor. they generated over $42.5 billion. >> reporter: back on maryland's eastern shore the national park service says it's teamed up with the army corp of engineers and the national oceannic and atmospheric association to fight the growing impacts of climate change. it is high tide and water is flowing over the banks here at the jefferson memorial, in part because the water level has risen a foot since it was built some 75 years ago. and the issue of climate change and national parks is on the radar of some members of congress. just this week members visited y yosemite national park to see first-hand how climate change is impacting the parks. and they're going to use that information to essentially figure out the best way to spend federal dollars to make the parks more resilient. >> and our thanks to rene. coming up --
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it's hammer time at the box office as "thor love and thunder" is proving to be a box office marvel. >> kids get your popcorn out. let me tell you the story. thor, he was no ordinary man. he was a god. after saving planet earth for the 500th time thor setoff a new journey. he went from dad baud to god bod, and after all that he re-claimed his title as the one and only thor. oh, spoke too soon. >> "thor" is just one of several movies working on the title blockbuster this summer. although theaters took a sustained hit during the pandemic crowds are once again flocking to the multiplexes.
our entertainment reporter has more. so how big are the box office numbers on "thor," chloe? >> listen, pamela, we all knew this movie was going to be big. it's the sequel. it's one of the most anticipated movies of the summer, and it is knocking it out of the box office when it comes to the amount of people that are going to see it this weekend. already so far it looks like it's going to be the 12th biggest debut for a marvel cinematic universe film. it stars chris hemsworth as thor, natalie portman she's in this one. she wasn't in the first one. i'm telling you people are loving it, and it looks like it's going to be the third highest three-day domestic opening of the year. so that's behind jurassic world dominion. that's behind doctor strange. i mean, it is making a huge mark at the box office and we're only
halfway through the weekend. >> yeah, we are. and the other big hit this summer is the minions, rise of gru. not only are the minions showing up in ads from everything to pancakes to car insurance they're sparking on tiktok. >> i took my 5-year-old to go see this movie. we had been waiting for a new minions movie for years. when we went to see it over july 4th weekend we did not see the gentle mippians going up viral and blowing up on tiktok. they're teenagers that think it's funny to dress in suits and go see the movie the rise of gru. as for the suits we don't exactly know other than maybe to be ironic. some theaters aren't liking it because, you know, some of the people who are going as the gentle minions are throwing bananas, being a little bit
loud. that's not cool. others, though, are just having fun posting videos of themselves along to a rap song called "rich minion." that is a song that was in one of the minions trailers. and then they're uploading it to tiktok. now they're showing up in throngs. again, i have so many people asking me why the suits. we can't quite figure that out. but some theaters, pamela, are actually banning gentle minions. you're seeing that in the u.k. they're putting up signs saying if you show up to the theater in a suit we're not going to let you in to see that movie. some people are getting around that by heading the suit underneath like a sweatshirt. but i was looking online, pamela, and universal pictures who actually, you know, produced this movie, they're onboard. they actually tweeted to everyone showing up in minions -- to "minions" in suits
we see you and love you. it doesn't seem to be bothering universal pictures at all. >> yeah, because of course these are supporters of their movie and brand. that's so interesting you can't wear a suit in some of these theaters because you'll be banned. all right, that must be a first. so what other movies are giving theater owners a hope for a big year? >> you know, look, movie theater going is still down a little over 30% from where we were pre-pandemic. but if this summer has shown you anything it's that people are ready to go back and see movies in a theater. you know, it's something that tom cruz was adamant about when it came to "top gun maverick." he pushed the release date of that film back on entire year. it is the highest grossing film of the summer. so far over $500 million. looks like it's going to be the 12th film to actually cross the
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in 2019 jessica completed a lifelong dream. she visited every country in the world and became the first black woman ever to accomplish that feat. earlier this evening i spoke with jessica about her travels and what inspired her to start this journey. >> you know, honestly it was my parents. so my parents love to traflk, and my sisters and i have been traveling with them internationally since i was 4. so really it was them who instilled this love of travel in me. also having encyclopedias in the home and atlases and a globe, it really made me feel like the world was truly my oyster. >> and how did you make this happen? i'd like to travel to every country in the world but that
takes a lot of logistic, plan [resources. >> yeah, the logistics were crazy. there was a google doc where we mapped everything out and there were lots of spread sheets. but beyond that i use credit cards are travel rewards. i'm super loyal when it comes to an airline. no matter what airline you fly, collecting all those miles, using the credit card for every day spending, but paying it off at the end of the month. we want to be fiscally responsible, but those are some of the ways i maximized it. >> it goes without saying not every country you went to are safe, some of them even less safe for a plaque woman. were there anyplaces you were apprehensive to visit? >> you know, honestly, no. i've been traveling extensively since my early 20s, and one of the biggest lessons i learned visiting almost every country in the world is most people are good. for me i'm not afraid of strangers. so if you aren't afraid of strangers what is there really to be afraid of?
>> elwith, thank you so much for joining me this evening. i'm pamela brown. i'll see you again tomorrow night starting at 6 eastern. up next join jake tapper as he talks about what happened january 6th. the cnn special report, trumping democracy, starts right now. >> announcer: the following is a cnn special report. the violence at the capitol on january 6, 2021, was just the most visible part of donald trump's attempt to hold onto power. tonight we talk to those who witnessed the whole plot unfurl and tried to stop it. the lies. >> this election was stolen from you, from me and from the country. >> if you ask how many republican congressmen believe trump was re-elected i'd say maybe a couple but 60% of our base does.