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in the neighborhood. this is jared stephen leone. he is 18. he is in city hall and riverton, oregon. according to him, he is high on mushrooms. he starts to fight with the cops. they all wrestle, and then jared grabbed a cots gun and shoots it. more cops jump in. it ends up taking seven cups two full minutes to restrain jared, and he makes it out alive. this is white privilege. if that idea bothers you, let's
call it benefit of the doubt. those cops give jerry the benefit of the doubt that his life matters. that his life is worth saving. even when he takes one of their guns and shoots it. of course, when you are black, we really get the benefit of the doubt. cops murdered quan mcdonald in less than 30 seconds. cops killed tamir rice in less than two seconds. jared, he got probation and a fine, and a bump on the forehead. in this episode, we are talking about the difference between two minutes and a few seconds.
>> you want to call the police on them for having a barbecue on a sunday at the lake? >> yes. >> you have seen the videos. >> i am white and i am hot. >> the last couple of years, they have been sweeping the nation. like a new beyonce album, they drop without warning and are all anybody can talk about for days afterward. which one is your favorite? >> it is illegal to have a charcoal grill in the park here. >> calling the police on people barbecuing in the park or a whiteley will not let a black person into a pool. >> get out, get out. >> or a whiteley will not let a black person into the pool. >> registered mikey. you're going to take mikey out of my hand? >> i know it seems like i'm repeating myself, but i'm not. there have not been this many black people kick out of polls since mlk had that dream. my personal favorite is -- >> illegally selling water without a permit. >> white lady calls the cops on a little black girl for selling water on a hot day. what she is doing there, that is the opposite of white
privilege. all of these videos have a few things in common. all the white people get twitter nicknames, the white people harassing the black people end up getting ridiculous. this is the key ingredient. none of the black people end up dead. it is so different than the videos featuring eric garner, castillo, and so many more. before these videos, people like me.that recording people acting like cops would bring justice for time and time again, we found out that it does not. cops and people acting like cops get away with murdering black people all of the time. in these new videos, people and i just reporting and waiting for the cops to show up, they are getting involved. more bystanders, more up standers. in many cases, cops do not have to get involved. if they do, sometimes it is just to comfort the snowflakes. it will be okay, becky. while the stuff in these videos might be new for you white
folks, my people have been talking about these stories. in this episode, what books are invited into the conversation. police do not bring her potato salad with the raisins in it. if we are talking racism, we can do this in any city in the united states. it is what we do best. there is one to place that is regularly made as the most segregated city in the country. before you start guessing a bunch of cities below the mason dixon line, i will tell you, it is milwaukee, wisconsin. milwaukee has a most amount of neighborhoods that are clearly defined by race. the home of happy to harley- davidson is also home to a lot of racism. structural -- hold up. another viral video just dropped in our laps. >> today is supposed to be a picnic in the park. we parked for setting up had this lady walks up to me and says, you don't have a permit for this today. we need you to take this down. we might have a problem here today. >> why do they all called the police, they stand there in a certain stance and wait on it?
>> this one has an m. night shyamalan twist, just as it was going down. >> a man just rolled up. funny how the universe works. instead of self and put it, we can use these fancy cnn cameras. >> i got a call i got sent out for. >> i never heard of such a thing. >> okay. i will have to talk to my supervisor and find out what is going on. i appreciate you talking to me. >> kamal bell. we are doing a story about living while black in milwaukee. >> it is rough. >> you are in the right spot. >> what happened? do you mind happening -- you might talking to me for a while? >> we have been doing work in this park since 2016. for whatever reason, this lady shows up and tries to tell me i do not have a permit. she proceeds to walk over here and call the police. >> she is right there.
>> halloween helen. all right, it has already started. >> are you surprised? >> absolutely not. growing up, i can still count on one hand, maybe two or three hands at the most. i was here not even a year and i had my first racial running at 14 or 15. if you do not know, you will know right away where you are not wanted at or where you are not welcome at. >> wow. just rolled up. >> let's see if we can find some living while black. here it is. >> now we can get back to why we came to this park in the first place. i came to speak with reggie jackson. not that one or that one, this one. a historian who does not play games. >> the person walked over here, walked right into that. >> it is amazing. we joke about it, we give it a hashtag or whatever. it is not funny though. especially in milwaukee. the relationship between police department and black people in
the city has always been a bad relationship. there has been a history of things, incidents of unarmed blacks being killed by the police. even this neighborhood, one of the things that happened to tamir smith, he was shot about two blocks away from the gas station. later that evening, basically, it just got crazy. >> on august 13th 2016, the police shot and killed 23-year- old seville smith. that night, around 100 protesters came to sherman park near the site of the killing. things got hectic. a gas station and auto parts store, and a bank were all burned down. >> everyone is aware of what happened with civil unrest. the people do not know what led up to that. it was not about seville smith being shot, that was just the precipitating act that led to this explosion. but they were underlying causes that led to people being very upset. from 1963 until 2015, the city of milwaukee lost 91 thousand manufacturing jobs. 91,000 good jobs left.
but a lot of the manufacturing jobs were out in the suburbs. people do not have access to get out to where those jobs are. as a result of that, you have high rates of poverty, you have higher rates of crime, you have schools that are not very effective. the underlying cause was related to the history of segregation. you know, we are surrounded by 18 suburbs that surround the city of milwaukee. 86 percent of the people who live in those suburbs are white. only 6.4% of black people in milwaukee county live outside of the city of milwaukee. that is the lowest of any of the most highly segregated states in the country. especially since 40% of the residents are black. >> holed up. a lot of you out there probably shocked right now, because you did not even know black people were in milwaukee. but 40%, milwaukee is blacker than chicago, oakland, blacker than the city of compton. >> what you have is a very diverse city surrounded by
communities that are not diverse at all. when you look at what segregation has done to milwaukee in terms of relationships between the police department in the black community, black people feel as if they are surveilled everywhere they go in milwaukee. there is one district where blacks make up 3% of the population in the district, but they make up 60% of the people stopped by police. just look at the incident with milwaukee bucks player sterling brown. he was accosted for parking in a handicapped spot. >> take your hands out of your pockets now. >> taser, taser, taser! >> you know, there is this idea that you can achieve your way out of these situations. it doesn't matter if you go to college, it doesn't matter if you get a good job, it doesn't matter, any of those things. the police will still see you as someone who is up to no
good. >> all of these things work together to create a perfect storm in milwaukee. >> i have heard people come to the south and say that milwaukee is more, i feel races and deeper in milwaukee than in the south. >> i have often referred to our state as mississippi. >> that is good. i do not know if i'm allowed to say that, but that is good. only at vanguard you're more than just an investor you're an owner. that means that your priorities are ours too. our interactive tools and advice can help you build a future for the ones you love. that's the value of ownership. sorry i'm late! dude, dude, dude...
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videos from 2018 is from the philadelphia starbucks or the manager called the cops on two black men that were waiting for their business partner to arrive. >> they did not do anything, i thought the entire thing. >> you may have been shocked when he first heard about this, and i was not. i also have some experience of a copy shop not wanting me to be in their copy shop. >> kamal came here to the copy shop in berkeley. he met up with his wife who was sitting at an outdoor table. he said he was showing her a book when an employee knocked on the window and told him to go away. >> i went away and went straight to the internet and told everyone. after those things happened, i think a lot about where i get my coffee. in milwaukee, there is a place that if i get kicked out, i know it will not be because of the color of my skin, it will be because of the content of my character. coffee makes you black is a blackened coffee shop that serves coffee to black people
and people who are nervous being your black people. >> working in the 60s was the 11th largest city in the united states. >> really? >> yes. isn't that strange? >> this is serena mcfadden, a milwaukee native, writer, and professor. she knows all about the racial history of this city. >> people believe black people moved out of the south to escape racism, and then he moved to the norther schism -- northern city where there was no racism. >> there was so much racism. >> i do not i have ever heard that, but i knew exactly what you meant. sad and hilarious. >> the north, or definitely the midwest north, it buys into this narrative that they are somehow far more superior in terms of character and tolerance, you know, we call it midwest knife. but there is this veneer of, i am not in my heart racist. but you are doing -- that is racist af.
array. this map is from 1937. it is what they call a security map. we can call it a redlining map. >> okay. >> it is a series of maps that were produced by the federal government. they did these surveys and neighborhood appraisals to determine where they would actually issue home loans. the green areas are good loans, the red is basically areas that they say are on a decline. everybody black pretty much concentrated in this area. they made a decision about where black people lived. no other ethnic group. he made the fate of the very existence of blackness with devalued the space, therefore, practice should be prohibited from being in this space. that is what you are saying. it is by design. this was intentional. so we can point 28 legacy of systemic inequality. >> when you see this on a map like this, racism is not just a feeling, it is also in institutional structure.
>> after more than three seasons of this show, this seems a good a time as any to define the word racism. in my experience, most people defined racism as simply hating someone based on their skin color. occasionally, i use a definition too. >> i have black relatives that are racist. but every antiracist academic that i know believes that hating someone or treating someone poorly because of their skin color, that is just prejudice. to get to racism -- >> being racism is not just prejudice. >> think of prejudice as just one cop. but racism is the entire police department that has the cops back. if an individual banker does not give person that is black a home, that might be prejudice. in fact, the banker has the approval of the bank, that is racism at work. in america, racism get a lot of work. it is embedded all the structures and institutions of this country. it was how this country is founded. that is why you cannot just hire black people into racist institutions and expect the
institution not to be racist anymore. imagine all that going through your head every time you apply for a job, talk to a police officer, or walk outside. >> offense to my white crew members, -- except for these four, five. yeah, five. as a black man, every video of a -- philander castille, i am seeing myself in that. even if i have never been in that situation. eric garner is on the ground being choked up by cops and saying i cannot breathe. people find that he has asthma, he is a 6'4" lachman with asthma, i am a 6'4" black man with asthma. white people do not see these videos and see themselves. we have enough of these videos, white women, you must've seen the other videos. do you think that moment it would be, like, wait a minute. am i about to get a headset with a name that is not mine? >> no, they don't. people see groups with
individuals of color and is the individual white people. that is just there m.o. it is nice to see that the stories are aggravating, because that kind of behavior, particularly white folks, i believe this black body does not belong in this coded white space, therefore, i feel threatened, and i know that i have the agency to call on some sort of authority figure to correct that. >> i have the agency to be the authority figure. >> that is a lot in milwaukee. >> everything we talked about may seem impossible and too big to dismantle. but there is actually a workshop across town trying to do just that. complete with a powerpoint. >> we are defining anti- blackness as the distance between white -- black people and your acceptance of their dignity. >> it is put on by university of wisconsin equipment. >> today's workshop is about understanding dignity and anti- blackness. we focus on understanding dignity as our responsibility to interrupt systems of oppression.
dignity resonates with folks so deeply because we are talking that every single individual, they can talk about dignity. this is a deepening, practical application of how do we connect on the human level. >> is like this work is really important in a city that is going through what the real estate people in the leticia color renaissance. i just want to the milwaukee downtown. you can see construction around it. i am sure formally that was just buildings, warehouses, or whatever. now it is, like, this will be higher real estate. that changes, literally, the collection of the city. >> i think as milwaukee gains this reputation of being a place of four young professionals to be, it is that you have to understand what you are coming into, this is for white, young, upper-class educated professionals. it is not for everybody else but what does it mean for us to be in a position to interrupt it? what does it mean to be in a position to say i have this privilege, i have this power, i have this know-how. we have to change something about this. >> you are, like, maybe i need to turn this into a workshop.
so talk a little bit more about the history. >> there is a couple of steps. i was in the classroom space, i was, like, you'll have me capital aft up. you are not thinking about what it needs to be black in this city. you are going to hold them to the same degree as me. you will be credentialed and you do not even know how to treat black people. that is the impetus of this. >> did you get your phd? >> yes. >> so i should call you doctor? >> you know. >> my wife has a phd. i know that is a serious thinker to make me call her doctor around the house. >> oh, police. i am not going to deny it. >> whinnies workshop happens, these anti-blackness workshops, it feels like it is either black people showing up, yeah, yeah, i already know. or it is what people showing up at our, like, oh, my god. i never had any of these thoughts. those people in a room together
, one of them is not being served. you know what i mean? >> what we learned is that a lot of the issues of other intersections of oppression become more real here. we focus on race. yes, you can bring up that white people are problematic, but why we are to anti- blackness, black people play into that too. even you. so what does that mean in this space? >> just for the record, as i came in here, one of the preachers told me that you are related to sylvia liston. i am very proud of myself that i did not ask any of those questions. >> that is my great uncle. >> i will not ask this question, because that is not what we are here to talk about. okay. i represent him. get verizon business unlimited from the network businesses rely on. okay everyone, our mission is to provide complete balanced nutrition for strength and energy. woo hoo! ensure, complete balanced nutrition with 27 vitamins and minerals. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. ♪ ♪ among my patients, i often see them have teeth sensitivity as well as gum issues. does it worry me? absolutely. sensodyne sensitivity & gum
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one things i always heard about milwaukee is that it is a city where people are from. meaning that if you are from here, you have something going on, if you want to get something going on, you go to chicago, new york, or anywhere not milwaukee. according to a study by the university of wisconsin, madison, the state lost an average of fort teen thousand college graduates per year between 2008 and 2012. that is called brain drain. brain drain hurts to walk his ability to innovate or even grow economically over the years. but there are those people who are doing their part to try to keep all the brains here. people at lisa caesar, a harvard educated entrepreneur and her mother, a pedro who is mostly known for winning an oscar for writing this. >> do you believe it is
injustice, as you said? >> i do. >> slavery is an evil. >> the feel-good movie of the summer. >> the things that i had to learn about slavery to even begin to execute 12 years is that there is a system that is put in place that becomes mass psychosis. to make it work, you have to get so many people involved in it. that is the thing that hurts the most. we see it still happening. >> they grew up in milwaukee. for many people, they look for careers in new york and los angeles. and now they come home and converted avery to close 20 years ago into their studio. it takes people streams of show business and shows how it can be a reality. >> i remember as a kid, you know, to be a young, black guy in milwaukee thinking about, i want to be a writer, i want to be an artist, i want to work in film, it just seemed 1 million
miles away. and then, you know, 30 years later, to actually encompass those things and realize there are other young kids, black, hispanic, asian, , straight, clear, whatever, they were feeling the same thing. there are people who can actually do the things they love but do it from milwaukee. >> without having to go, i have a little bit of talent, i will get out of here as quickly as possible. >> what if we were to embrace all that talent instead of systematically suppressing it? you know? we grew up in a suburb of milwaukee. it is not exactly in milwaukee. there were the words no black folks when we grew up. virtually none. >> even when we moved into the neighborhood, the few black people that were in awe of one, we all lived on that block. we all lived on that block. and i called it -- you know -- back in the day, date would call it n-word row. >> you always had the sense you were treated is not quite
american. you're not quite as american as everyone else. when you are a child, you begin to internalize that. >> trust me, we had it good, by comparison. our father was a practicing doctor here for a long time, our mother was a teacher. he is a serviceman. he volunteered, you know? he was in the air force. he just tells the story about coming up to milwaukee and stopping in a restaurant. when he came back out of the car, this was with her mom, you were a baby. he was just accosted by this gang of young white kids. he thought that if he did not have you in his arms, this baby, they would have beaten him and beat my mother. he talks about when he got a house, you know, on the phone, it was all good. then he would go to check on the house, who is moving in here? he would talk often, you know, he would end up on the board. the first black man on the sport, i was the first black
man part of this committee. he would not say it in a bragging way, he was talking about his experiences. isn't that amazing that you did that? he would say, it is not amazing. but when you are black, if you are black and milwaukee, if you did something, he became the first person. you lead by example. we are a byproduct of our parents. our parents fought, they stood up. i think the thing that we wanted to do was just create a space in milwaukee to let people know, these things are not accidental. of what we want to do is to make people realize that you can be comfortable with anything. what are the things we have in common? what are the things we enjoy? you have to get people working together. that is really the thing. >> i like this. no, i will get you on camera. with this episode, when it is ready to air, can we come back your into a screening of it here in your screening room? >> yes, absolutely. i think we can make that work. >> absolutely. we thought it. >> on camera. a verbal agreement. people in hollywood never lie. >> oh, no. that is right.
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next, we will switch it up a little bit. instead of a black people meeting, we will have a people of color meeting. this episode has been hard. i will have something to milwaukee before we get back into it. i meeting the student activists , alona, cindy, lakisha, joya, lakota, and kia. they are part of leaders igniting transformation, or
lit, for short. they take on issues of racism in milwaukee's education system. after i passed the concussion protocol, it was time for the people of color meeting. >> i think our organization is going to need that combined like and brown young people. that is the need i think we fill in milwaukee. bringing together young people to not only make our city better, but hopefully ease racial tensions among people of color. >> in milwaukee, it is a big deal. >> a very big deal. >> something i love about lit is that we are all people of color, people of color in education like to bring rec and brown youth together. how are you going to do that? you know? we need to throw the whole thing away and start over. >> when you say the whole
thing, what is the thing? >> the whole public concept of public education. >> okay, all right. okay. >> that night might not be a bad idea. last year, lit in the center of democracy showed that milwaukee's black high school student made up 52% of the student body, but accounted for 80% of the over 10,000 suspensions during the 2015/2000 16 school year. that is double the national rate. not only that, more than 100 elections were expelled while white students were just suspended. worst of all cartoons of color were nearly 85% of students turned over to the police. that is the school to prison pipeline in action. while the system is obviously racist, what often affects students more is the subtle ways in which educators cross boundaries when it comes to race. >> last year, we had to pick in his organization to work with for the semester. my teacher told me that she wanted me to help out a foster home. i was, like, oh, why? she was, like, don't you come from foster care? i was, like,
i said where did you get that from? she said well, i just -- i said, you just what? >> i just got it from racism? >> almost like when she was just talking about, actually, this just happened this year, it was actually wacky tacky wednesday. i was all crazy, hair was crazy, it was all in these ponytails and stuff. so one of the faculty came into my classroom to give me a college letter or something. but then she continues to say, you know what you remind me of? a pick any dog. i did not know what it was. so i went to google. i googled what i thought, how she spotted. she said no, that is not how you spell it. she retyped it and searched it. >> let me direct you more effectively to the racism. >> this is what a pick in any doll looks like. nope, she does not look like this, because nobody does. >> i give you all the power
over time and space, harry potter magic, whatever you want. what would you do to fix this problem? >> i was thinking, when you meet someone, you see a glints of their past. it would make us take a step back and think about -- >> i like that one. that went deep. >> yeah, yeah. >> admit it. he knew it was only a matter of time before he talked about the criminal justice system. milwaukee has folks so caught up in the system that it has the most incarcerated z.i.p. code in the country. 62% of the blackman and present by 32 years old. 62%. milwaukee county as a whole, more than half of all black men in their 30s and early 40s have, at some point, been behind bars. despite went to prison can partly be traced to the police department seventh risk policy. luckily, the chapter of the aclu noticed, sued the city, and won the case. i am meeting with some of the plaintiffs. in wisconsin state representative david crowley, along with her aclu
representative. >> there is a general perception of the midwest, specifically with wisconsin that black people do not live here. >> is that -- have you heard that? >> i hear it everywhere i go. i went to new york and i told people i was from wisconsin. they literally had their eyes wide open. >> what part of wisconsin? do you have cows? ain't no cows in milwaukee. >> i'm aclu ambassador for celebrity justice but i had the same reaction you just had. a celebrity? >> talk about why the aclu gets involved in this. specifically around involving stories that are not about black people being killed by cops. therefore, they are harder to telling her to for people to understand the racism. >> it is absolutely and completely pervasive. not just cities like milwaukee, but especially milwaukee. other cities as well. what we ended up finding out with the city of milwaukee, milwaukee police department's own data, we found that they
stop something like 350,000 people unconstitutionally. >> the numbers are ridiculous. what is hard to imagine is the emotional toll when you are not doing anything wrong and you could end up for nothing. listen to stephen who was walking home from class and was randomly accused of marijuana possession. >> i said i do not smoke marijuana. he just stopped and stared at me. it was in that moment where you realize, if something happens to you, if you make any sudden movements, you could be on the pavement. it is his word against nobodies. >> you did not smell like a bank robbery. you know what i mean? >> and then there is a state representative who was trying to avoid walking in an area where gunshots were heard. >> if i was a white man walking to the field, i probably would not have been stopped. >> they would have given you a ride home. >> sunday afternoon, i was driving home. i noticed that there was a squad car behind me. sirens went off. i rolled down the window. both
officers get out the car in the approach. they basically told me that whatever reason, my plates did not match the car. so the cop that was on the drivers side those, checks on my information, she takes my i.d. the other cop is still staring in the car. he starts putting his hand on his holster in on his gun. this was just after sterling brown was murdered and calandra cassio was killed in front of his girlfriend. he was shot. i am telling myself, do not say anything. do not get enraged, do not get mad. it could all turn bad. finally, the cop does come back . the other officer, he said everything seems to check out. okay, that is cool. they walk away and get in the car. i literally turned around to wait for them to pull off. the rage and anger that i immediately felt in that moment
. you know, to know that your life can be on a thread like that, it is a fine line. to them, it is just a snippet and that is it. >> there are people who will hear you tell that story and go , what is the big deal? nothing happened. you know what i mean? why are you so angry? >> yeah. i think that is the crazy part. i remember telling a story to people. i was, like, you see a scary movie and the killer is toying with his victim, you know, twisting the knife around. imagine having somebody who has a weapon right in front of you, and they are toying with the very thing that has been responsible for the neutralization of people's lives. if you do not see the fear in that, i do not know what else to tell you. >> one lady, one white woman came in. she said you get tired of having these conversations? it is like, you know what? yes. at the same time, understand this is the only way i will enjoy my children see something different.
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while the aclu plaintiff stories were not violent, those men stood up because they know those same situations can't end up in violence. take the story of maria hamilton's son andre. >> i feel his spirit in here. i very seldom go to the cemetery, because his blood and life is in his heart. >> in 2014, the manager of the starbucks called the police on 24-year-old daughter he was waiting for his brother on a park bench. the police were called on three occasions for the first time, they went and spoke with him. they came to the conclusion that he was not doing anything wrong, he was not bothering anybody. so they left.
>> unsatisfied with the response to her calls, the manager called a personal friend on the force to the scene. officer vista for manning. officer manning confronted don trey who was unarmed and had not been bothering anyone. >> he stood over his head. don trey was startled, jumped up. and he tried to do an illegal patdown. don trey resisted. >> officer manning unloaded 14 bullets into don trey, killing him. again, he had not been bothering anyone, even according to other cops were at the scene. >> his life was taken for that. because of a manager at starbucks profiling him as a homeless man and felt as though his presence stopped them from making money. it warranted 14 bullets? in broad daylight .
>> following the shooting, the milwaukee police said that don trey had a prior history of arrests. they claim that the arrests were directly connected to his mental health issues. >> was any of that -- >> not of it is true. don trey had not robbed nobody. but don trey, in 2016 was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic. don trey never tried to hurt anybody. >> there is an ascension that everyone with mental health issues can turn violent. >> yes. >> that is not the case, overwhelmingly. >> no, it is not. >> the bigger question here is, why are the cops first responders to's so many things
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from the videos to the conversations so far, it's clear that at the heart of all these issues is prejudice, but more specifically, racial bias. while some of you may point to extreme examples like the klan or the alt-right and say, hey, that's not me, pal -- i've got bad news. everybody acts on their racial biases all the time without even thinking about it. we just don't all have racism to back us up. acting on racial bias when you don't realize it is called implicit bias, like a white lady in the park seeing a person of
color and seeing a threat or criminal, not giving that person a benefit of the doubt as a human who likes to barbecue, and might have some extra if you're friendly. >> a lot of the research is focused on racial attitudes and asks in surveys, are you racist? and people say no. so 100% of people aren't racist. >> university of wisconsin madison professor john diamond, an expert on the subject. >> i was not familiar with the term implicit bias until about four years ago. because something happened to me that was later described as implicit bias. i was calling it racism. can you talk about what that means and where it comes from? >> yeah, so tony greenwald established project implicit about 20 years ago. what they were trying to figure out, what's going on in people's minds before they're able to think about what's the socially responsible answer? so the way to think about implicit bias is you don't have to necessarily dislike people of
other races to be affected by it, right? it's in everything that you do. somebody walks through a door and it's a man, you have some assumptions about what that means. we've also been conditioned to not talk about it, right? >> researchers from harvard and the university of virginia have created a test that can measure a person's implicit bias. the idea being, if we can measure it, maybe we can dismantle it. >> what they find is people have a hard time associating good characteristics with black faces. >> is that everybody? >> it's about 80% of white people. >> yeah? what about black people? >> for black people we're less likely to favor white people, but we tend to favor white people slightly. the challenge is thinking about not just what people's intentions are, but how do you grow up in a world where white supremacy is embedded in everything, and you breathe it in in a way that gets into your subconscious?
>> there's a test? >> there is. >> i feel like i'm hip to this stuff. is it smarter than me i guess is what i'm saying? >> i think it is. >> we ask the question many of you have had for three seasons. how racist is kamau? >> i would accept an invitation to a new year's eve party given by a white couple in my home? if i didn't do that, i wouldn't be able to hang out with my in-laws, strongly agree. >> the first part of the test is situational answers that aren't yes or no. pick the level to which you agree or disagree. most white people can't be trusted to deal honestly with black people? uh -- i'm going to cover this from cnn's eyes. i don't mean my bosses at cnn. you guys are great with black tv hosts. the second part of the test is a little more tricky. quickly pick black and bite faces and decide if certain words are good or bad. this is what the test looks like. you can find it here. but this is what the test feels like. >> i don't like this. i don't like this at all.
all right. your data suggests a moderate automatic preference for african-americans over europeans. moderate preference for black people. that's my brand. whether you agree with what the results were, it's the conversations they have after the results. what does it mean? what are the implications of that? it does mean stuff. you connect it to how people react in school, discipline, policing, all those things, it matters. >> i think we'll make everybody on the crew take it. i already know who on the crew is going to have a strong preference for black people. what's up, duane? this week in milwaukee has featured a bunch of great people black meetings and one people of color meeting. hopefully it gives you a sense of what people of color are coming to and what people of color talk about regularly. we have a homework assignment.
go and take the implicit bias test. whether you think you're biased or not, racism is a part of your life, with or without you knowing it. if we measure it, hopefully we can dismantle it. white folks, if you don't think about your own bias, there's a chance you're going to end up in one of those videos, harassing people who don't deserve it or even worse, getting someone killed. ♪ ♪ this week i'm in tacoma, seattle. seattle, washington. i'm talking to white people who want to end white supremacy, and do it the wa