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now. good morning to viewers here in the u.s. and around the world. it's monday, july 11th. i'm brianna keilar with john berman. tomorrow the spokesman for the oath keepers will testify before the january 6th committee. the panel says we can expect new details from jason van tatton however about how far the far right militia group operated and how it planned the attack on the capitol in the bid to overturn the election. >> just to give a historical precedence to this group and how they have kind of radicalized, i was the propagandist for the oath keepers. >> committee members say they can establish' link between trump's inner circle and the oath keepers. >> a brand-new court filing, the
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state department is rejecting steve bannon's sudden willingness to testify before the january 6th committee days before his criminal contempt trial is set to begin. bannon produced a letter from donald trump, trump saying he is waiving executive privilege so bannon can testify. here's the thing, the committee and most legal analysts say no privilege existed in this case to begin with. what's more, federal prosecutors argue, trump never invoked executive privilege here. so, this doj court filing also reveals that former president trump's attorney justin clark was interviewed by fbi investigators two weeks ago. let's go to washington, whitney wild is there for the latest on what we can expect in the committee hearing tomorrow. the oath keepers front and center. >> absolutely. this will be a very robust hearing and this hearing will focus on how the violent mob came together and the role of
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extremist groups in that deadly insurrection. to connect trump allies to militia groups, such as the oath keepers and proud boys. more specifically, this hearing could examine connections between roger stone, michael flynn and extremist groups. a source tells cnn the committee plans to feature jason van tatenhowever, a self-described propagandist for the group. he maintains he was never a member of the group but, instead, described himself as a former employee. congressman jamie raskin told cbs on sunday that tuesday's hearing will reveal the fundamental importance of a meeting that took place in the white house on december 18th, after which trump sent out a tweet asking his supporters to come to d.c. on january 6th. >> people are going to hear the story of that tweet and then the explosive effect it had in trump world, and specifically among the domestic violent extremist
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groups. the most dangerous political extremists in the country at that point. >> well, members of the committee have said it is very possible, and it looks increasingly likely the public will hear from former white house counsel pap cipollone who testified friday. this all comes as the justice department is releasing a flood of new information. some of it includes evidence against this overall case against the oath keepers. prosecutors say through their investigation into that group, investigators found two illegal short barrel firearms, grenades and discovered bomb-making recipes. back to you. >> whitney wild, a lot of different developments on many different fronts here. we appreciate that. so, in a clip from the newly released documentary, "unprecedented," former president trump praises the january 6th rioters. here he is. >> yeah.
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well, it was a sad day but it was a day where there was great anger in our country. people went to washington primarily because they were angry with an election they think was rigged. a very small portion, as you know, went down to the capitol and then a very small portion of them went in. but i will tell you, they were angry from the standpoint of what happened in the election because they're smart and they see and they saw what happened. and i believe that that was a big part of what happened on january 6th. >> let's talk about this with cnn political commentator and the host of cnn and the michael program on cnn. what do you think watching that clip? >> i'm reminded of the fact, bri brianna, in in 1973 one of the more interesting exchanges from watergate came when howard baker asked, what did the president
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know and when did he know it? the question today, i think, is what went on in the willard hotel on january 5th. that's what all of the issues that you both have been discussing this morning, i think, are building toward. can there be established a nexus, a causal connection that the trump white house have knowledge that not only would the promise keepers and oath keepers show up and protest and breach the capitol. i think that's why steve bannon's testimony is so important, even though i don't think he gives up donald trump. that's the issue, what went on at the willard? >> what do you think the committee has to establish or how high is the bar for them in terms of creating that connection? >> some would say, john, they've already met their obligation, they've already met a threshold. unfortunately, i think it all depends on the lens through which people are paying attention or not paying attention, as the case may be, to these hearings. when you look at the case that's
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already been established, some would say the burden's been met. that there was collusion, there was conspiracy between the white house and those that actually breached the capitol grounds. >> what do you think of how steve bannon is going about this? initially he cites -- or his attorney cites executive privilege, which really is fake because he wasn't at the white house. so, he's not protected by that. it also turns out, in addition to being fake, it was nonexistent because the doj has pointed out that the lawyer for trump says they never told bannon's attorney that there was executive privilege in this case protecting bannon or that they wanted him to use it. what do you make of how this is all going down? >> there's a verbiage or slogan that says something like, be careful when you catch a tiger by its tail. i think he relishes this. i think roger stone, to the extent he comes up again,
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relished the opportunity to have their day in the court of public opinion. one of the more interesting issues, i think, probably playing itself out behind closed doors now is whether we'll get to watch this in real time, which i doubt. i don't think the committee wants to give bannon that kind of an opportunity. they'll probably want to make sure it's all behind closed doors and we simply see excerpts the way we have. i don't think there's been a trump -- a pro-trump or trump-aligned witness we've seen live in front of the january 6th committee hearing thus far. bannon wants to be that person. i don't think he turns on trump. i think he delivers a series of sound bytes and pleads the fifth, but he wants it. this is exactly what he lives for. >> i will note that arizona election officials did note he would vote for trump over biden if he ran again even if, as he said, he was pressured in many different ways to overturn the election results. it depends on what you mean by pro-trump in this case but no
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one has defended trump's actions. you wanted to ask about paul ryan. >> i did. former house speaker paul ryan g was sobbing as he watched the attack on the u.s. capitol. that's not actually the part that i was most curious about your thoughts on. it was also the fact that paul ryan is not inclined to grapple with questions of complicity when it comes to the fact that he serves on the board of the fox corporation or about the times that he may have had a chance to challenge president trump and didn't. what do you think? >> i think this may sound nutty, but paul ryan can have greater influence on the public discourse as a board member of fox corporation, the parent of fox news, than he could have had as house speaker. such is the power and control of th today for republicans doesn't come from
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the rnc, it doesn't come from the speaker of the house, when they control the house or the senate majority leader. no, it comes from, you know, the oracles on fox, especially in prime time, who set -- people might not look it, but they set the establish they establish what the discourse willen for, truly, half of those involved in public affairs. >> it's a really interesting point. michael smerconish, thank you. new this morning, gas prices down for the 26th day in a row. that's a pretty good streak. 26 straight days. the lowest price since the start of the summer. joining us now, the co-host of "truth or skepticism," dylan rhadigan. down 30 cents. >> shocked. i was completely surprised and i think a lot of people were surprised. when you look into it -- first of all, good morning. thanks for having me back.
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i was surprised, and i think a lot of people were. when i looked into it, it was sort of -- it was also a surprising answer. when the war started -- when russia invaded ukraine in february, the reaction of nato in the united states was a series of economic sanctions, incrementally more severe economic sanctions. one of those economic sanctions related to cutting off oil supplies or at least importing russian oil into u.s. and not nato countries. i thought, and a lot of people thought, well, my goodness, this will reduce the flow of oil and make oil more expensive. if you look at gas prices and what happened, gas became more expensive. 100 days on, 130 days on since the invasion, 140 days on, russia has never sold more oil. they're selling more oil today than they were selling before the war.
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they're now watching a market completely flooded with oil. in other words, the initial anticipation is, we're going to see a loss of oil supplies because of this war. not only because of the war, because of the sanctions being done in response to the war. those sanctions have not resulted in a reduction of the actual flow of oil on the earth, as we feared. they have made the ruble the strongist it's been in five years and allowed russia to expand its oil market 18 times over. the world is separating. in other words, there was a moment where there was some fragility in that. now the world is separating between the east and the west, basically. and you're seeing that even in that separation that the flow of oil is intact. now, germany and italy are different from the united states because they're vastly more dependent. i know you talk about this all the time with the gas pipelines and these sorts of things and
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you're seeing the fuel and fertilizer prices extraordinarily high in europe and that's why you have all the farmers in netherlands and all the farmers in italy, and all the farmers in poland -- not all but these huge farmer protests because their profit margins are only 1% to 2% to begin with. when you jack up their fuel and fertilizer costs because of the sanctions, now they're working either as a loss. so, for europe, this is a bigger issue, meaning the initial fear, what's the cost of these sanctions. and so anyway, that's the -- you have that and then you also have the aspect that the markets, since you and i spoke the first time i came here a couple weeks ago, i got to meet you a week later, because of what the fed has done, most of the measures of inflation fear have improved. remember, $14 trillion in asset value has been already taken out of the market in the last six
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months. the market has already adjusted to an economic slowdown. the economy hasn't because the jobs market is so strong, thank god, but the market has already made its adjustment and basically has concluded that the fed -- between the federal reserve and some of the resolutions on the supply chain side that maybe it's not going to be that bad. we'll see how the inflation numbers come out. the slowing economy also helps reduce the cost of oil. >> if you're just a regular person at home, and we're looking at these gas prices. we have this little disagreement in commercial breaks about this. yes, it's been so many days where you've seen the dip in gas prices but it's still 70 bucks a gas tank to fill up a ford explorer. >> which is less than half of the rest of the world. the entire rest of the planet and canada is $10. >> dylan, who cares if you're on a fixed income, is my point. if you're on a fixed income and it costs you basically half that, not that long ago and it's cutting into your grocery
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budget. >> i couldn't agree more. >> then it is great to see it dipping, but when you have economists and the projections saying, okay, it is starting to dip slowly but it's not going to plummet and we're going to sort of be seeing it at this level for a while, how much respite does that give someone who is -- seriously, it's cutting into your other costs. >> none. whether it's an individual who's now dealing with the higher gas -- filling their car here or whether it's the farmer dealing with fertilizer and fuel costs, the question, you have to ask yourself politically is sanctions are only as valuable as they are -- as they provide leverage to correct. if you're a parent and i want to do a sanction on a child, ground them or whatever, i can only influence their behavior the degree to which i have leverage to do so. i believe there's been a significant miscalculation by the american government and the european government on the amount of leverage they believe
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they have over russia by cutting off the oil supplies. that has been manifest by significant issues with costs for us, costs in europe, and if you look at what's happening in russia, ruble, five-year high, oil outputs, all-time high. higher oil prices, enriching gazprom -- all the threoretical actions, the farmer protests or the inability to give 70 bucks for a tank of gas here, but where's the corrective action? >> dylan, great to see you. >> elon musk -- >> we ran out of time. >> i'm going to tell you anyway. he makes impulsive decisions. don't overthink it. >> go to twitter, which maybe he's still buying, and you can post your thoughts -- >> it just depends -- >> impulsive billion dollar
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this morning disagreement in uvalde, texas, over the release of a 77-minute video showing the police in the hallway during the attack there as uvalde residents are asking for more accountability and increasing safety measures in the schools. we're live in san antonio with the latest. >> reporter: a lot certainly going on in uvalde. we were there over the weekend. yesterday there was a rally, a march. it was really one of the first time, moments where the community gathered together. hundreds of them, along with family members, really wanting change and really speaking out. gathering, organizing. i think that is a very significant moment because it is something we have not seen from this community. and they're calling for people to lose their jobs. they want the chiefs gone, they
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want the police department changed. of course, all of this is happening as the investigation continues. people are still investigating exactly what happened. you have multiple investigations that are ongoing and very few answers for the community, for the family members who are demanding to see more information. as you said, that hallway video, they want to see exactly what officers were doing in the hallway, what agencies were there. so, they want change. the other big thing here, john, what's going on is school is about to start here in just a few weeks, in the middle of august, and the parents and kids are concerned about going back to school because of safety reasons. they want changes made at schools so they can feel safer. there's a lot still here that's going on, certainly. today there will be more testimony, closed door testimony in austin before an investigative committee, the house investigative committee. we'll learn more about that later. obviously, there's still so much to learn here, john. >> there certainly is. you can understand the anxiety
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with the school year approaching fairly quickly at this point. thank you very much. here in just a few hours, president biden will hold an event at the white house to celebrate the first major federal gun safety legislation in decades, which he signed into law last month. in attendance will be a number of people who have lost loved ones to gun violence. some of them plan to tell the president that this new gun bill just doesn't do enough. one of those people is manuel oliver, and joining us is former republican congressman is self-described gun nut, joe walsh, who has done a lot of outreach to families seeking more action on this. manny, to you first. tell us what you think of this bill and what you plan to tell president biden if you get the chance. >> well, it's been a while that i've been calling out that using the word celebration, getting together, is like we're going to a party, to a wedding today.
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meanwhile, you can see these mothers in uvalde that just saw how their kids were massacred inside a school. so, for me, it's not only not enough, and you know very well what i've been preaching for. even the president asked for more and it's not happening. so, i really wish there was more in this package of bills. and i will do whatever i can to get more in this package of bills. this is not the beginning or the end. a lot of people are saying this is the beginning. no, this is part of a process. there was no reason for this event to be called as it's called right now. we are celebrating again together in the white house. >> that makes total sense, manny. joe, what are you hearing from families? >> you know, it's interesting,
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brianna. manny and i probably disagree on most reforms but, gosh, i agree with him here. the notion that this is any sort of celebration here today is just off. we should be, as you and i have talked about before, brianna, doing everything we can do to make sure somebody who shouldn't have a gun doesn't get a gun. expanding background checks, real background checks, real red flag laws. this legislation doesn't do any of that. i'm going to keep trying to find common ground with people like manny and david hoge to really get background checks and red flag laws that can make a difference. >> manny, you raise the idea of is this the beginning or is this the end? are you worried that this bill, this passage means congress isn't going to do anything for a long time? >> i'm sure that's going to happen. congress hasn't done much for a long time.
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so, this is like giving a green light to congress to wait another 30 years to do something else. guess what, we're not going to let that happen. i was yesterday working on this in the city of orlando. i was a week ago in philadelphia and i will be next week in texas. for me, again, this is part of a process. anyone that thinks this is a new start, a new beginning is probably showing that we can slow down our activism. not me, not jmy wife patricia ad not the thousands of kids that are out there. >> joe, i think we all hope that this saves lives and i think it probably will save lives. that's the expectation. certainly it's not going to save all of them. if we see more shootings, then what? if we see another uvalde, then
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what does congress do? >> i don't think we're going to see anything more major or with more teeth in it until responsible gun owners like me put pressure on republicans. that's my greatest fear with this. the nra and the gun lobby, they didn't want anything to happen. my worry is that my former colleagues in congress, the republicans, this is going to let them off the hook now and they won't feel compelled to want to look into any other legislation. it's up to responsible gun owners to work with folks like manny to make sure that doesn't happen. >> manny, joe, thank you so much to both of us. this conversation will continue. unfortunately, the violence will continue and we're going to keep talking about it with both of you. we appreciate you being with us. >> thank you. >> speaking of president biden, he is on the defensive ahead of his controversial visit with the crown prince of saudi arabia.
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we have new details about the man accused of assassinate ing former prime minister shin shinzo abe. cnn's matthew chance is joining us live from nara, japan, from the scene where abe was killed on friday. matthew, what are you seeing there? >> reporter: hi, brianna. the impact of that political assassination of shinzo abe has sent shock waves around the country. nowhere more so than here in the western city of nara. we're at this makeshift shrine that's been set up a few feet from where shinzo abe was gunned down last week. and the crowds have cleared a bit now, but throughout the course of the day, hundreds upon
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hundreds of people have been coming here, laying tributes, laying flowers, offering prayers. this little bunch of flowers here saying [ speaking foreign language ] which means thank you for your hard work and rest in peace. similar things like, people are putting some offerings down and they are paying respects to a man who was the longest serving prime minister in this country in its modern history. people have expressed shock. the people we've been speaking to, shock that some of his stature or anybody would be gunned down in the streets in this way, in a country in which gun crime essentially is virtually unheard of. we've been speaking to the police here in nara, heading up the investigation into the killing. they've, of course, arrested the suspect. his name is tetsuya yamagami. he's 41 years old. police told me earlier today he is cooperating, he's calm, but he has not expressed any regret
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at all for shooting shinzo abe. this is the place where he was actually killed. we'll just cross the road here. there are some police here. you can see, there are people here -- one person here, bending down in the exact location where shinzo abe actually fell and, you know, basically bled to death as a result of a wound in his neck. the big mystery at the moment is why? why would somebody of this political stature be killed in such a brutal way? there's not very good answers to that at the moment. the police are refusing to be drawn on it. all they're saying is the ass assassin, alleged assassin, harbored a hatred to what they call a certain group they won't name because of financial hardship that group caused to the assassin's mother. that's what the assassin said. he believed shinzo abe was associated with that group. they won't say what it is, but there's wide speculation across
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japan. they were talking about the unification church, a new religious sect, a cult from south korea which has one of its offices right here in nara. that organization has given a press conference today saying they're confused about the the police are not ruling out the possibility somebody else may have been involved, perhaps somebody else that helped him build the weapon, or somebody who knew about it but didn't let on. again, shock around the country in a country where gun crime is so rare. i mean, to give an example of that, i mean, in 2021, there was just one person murdered with a gun in this country. you know, there were more than 200 people murdered in the
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united states or killed in the united states with a weapon just last weekend. so, you know, it's an extraordinarily rare crime for this country to be grappling with, brianna. >> just shocking that nation. matthew, thank you so much for that. this week president biden will travel to saudi arabia and israel. in saudi arabia, he will meet with leaders of those -- of that country, including the saudi crown prince, mohammed bin salman. that has stirred backlash following the murder of jamal khashoggi. writing, my aim was to reorient but not rupture relations with a country that has been a strategic partner for 80 years. my aim will be to strengthen a strategic partnership going forward that is based on mutual interest and responsibilities, while also holding true to fundamental american values. joining us now, washington post opinion columnist who worked with jamal khashoggi, karen. thank you for being with us.
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the president writes he wants to strengthen strategic partner going forward based on mutual responsibility while also holding true to fundamental american values. is that possible when you're talking about meeting with the saudi crown prince? >> yeah, thank you so much for having me. i think a lot of that is rhetoric, obviously, we've heard from successor u.s. presidents, including the predecessor donald trump. so, i'm not particularly sure what exactly is so new about that rhetoric. and, you know, let's be clear. very specifically the controversy and the backlash to president biden's trip is specifically to meeting with mohammed bin salman. and in the weeks preceding this trip to saudi arabia, mohammed bin salman, who's visited turkey where, of course, jamal ka
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sh khashoggi was killed and it's on the heals of what appears to be bin salman's re-entry into the good graces of the world, including with the united states. so, the -- the question really is what exactly is the u.s. getting out of a photo op, handshake, what have you with mohammed bin salman, who's not only been accused -- credibly accused of orchestrating the operation that brutally killed my colleague, but also has been the mastermind of the war in yemen, which has claimed many, many lives, caused humanitarian disaster, who continues to imprison and hold human rights activists in saudi arabia. it just appears that the u.s. is going hat in hand. president biden's going hat in hand to a man that, frankly, you
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know, we question whether or not he really will get much in the way of freedom and values out of this trip. >> we've repeatedly asked administration officials what they've been promised from the saudis. for instance, you talk about, you know, human rights and concessions along those fronts in saudi arabia. we've been asking any promises they'll increase oil supply in just dollars and cents. will you get a promise to do something to help lower gas prices? they tell us, no, they don't have those promises. would that make it worth it? >> doesn't seem like it really makes sense. the question is, what is this really about? of course, there has been, you know, a lot of pressure, international desire for a repairing of relations and normalization of relations between the gulf countries and israel. you know, we're talking about the accords and the biden administration will say, which is what the trump administration
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also said, we need a strong relationship with saudi arabia in order to counter iran. again, this has been old rhetoric that -- you know, i sit here and think, if the current administration were saying the same things about why they were going to saudi arabia, it would be a massive, massive, massive outcry. again, as we said, this question of what exactly the u.s. is getting out of this, what exactly are americans who watched a u.s. resident be not only brutally murdered but to have our strategic partner lie on the international stage about their involvement of it, it just really seems like it will make the u.s. and biden, frankly, look weak on american values and human rights. >> karen attiah, always great to speak with you. we look forward to talking to you again. new overnight, the justice
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new from the january 6th committee, a former spokesperson and self-described propagandist for the oath keepers expected to testify tomorrow. our sara sidner has done extensive reporting on the group. >> reporter: members of the extremist anti-government oath keepers were a part of this siege. they are seen in combat gear, brazenly bragging about breaching the capitol. >> overran the capitol. >> we're in the [ bleep ] capitol. >> reporter: the extremist paramilitary group is known for recruiting current and former members of the military law enforcement. it has emerged as one of the groups a major focus of federal
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investigators. >> joining us now is cnn senior national correspondent sara sidner. we say jason van totenhove, and you have spoken to those much more intimately involved more recently, including the boyfriend of someone who is already charged. >> i have talked to stewart rhodes, the leader of the oath keepers, and who made a lot of statements. there are some in the indictment, some very clear statements he made after january 6th, that the government says he was plotting to do more violence and preparing his troops, so to speak, for more violence. we've now seen this indictment that has a lot of new details in it. there was a co-conspirator who had explosives, who had on his property things like grenades and illegal firearms they
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seized. we also heard about someone having bomb-making -- something that basically was a recipe for bomb-making. they found inside of her -- her name is jaessica watkin, inside her home in her home. i went to that area. early off after she was raesd, she was one of the first to be arrested on conspiracy charges in this case, and now along with nine others, faces these stronger charges. we went to talk to some of the people surrounding her. we've never shown this particular part of the interview i did with her boyfriend, who stopped to talk to us after we tried knocking on the door. he got in his car and stopped to talk to us. basically the boyfriend said she would never, ever do anything with explosives. that she knows there is no legal or moral use of explosives when you're not a current member of
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the military, to use something like this. but that what he thought she did and what she thought she did may have been illegal but it wasn't wrong. it gives you kind of a sense of what the mindset of people are. this particular person has also gone in front of a judge in the very beginning and said, you know, i'm done with this. i'm going to renounce my position in the oath keepers. i'm going to renounce the militia i made. i'm just going to go back to trying to live my life. to see who some of these people are, but some of them so far have pleaded not guilty except for three members of the oath keepers. three members have pleaded guilty to the most -- the strongest charge against anyone that has come out, both the proud boys are facing seditious conspiracy and members of the oath keepers facing seditious conspiracy. three members have pleaded guilty to that charge. and maybe authorities are trying to have them cooperate, which is
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why whoa may be seeing more details come out. >> how strong are the links between the trump circle and these extremists? >> well, you need to look no further than some of the communications that were happening, but also video on the day, on the day before. so, you see, for example, stone there with members of the oath keepers. we know there are long ties between roger stone and the proud boys. there's a lot of times when they've been together. the question is, is there a direct link with somebody from one of these extreme groups with the trump administration coordinating. that's what the january 6th committee has to prove. it has not yet proved. >> sara sidner, thank you so much. great insight. investigation under way this morning after three churches were burned or vandalized outside of washington, d.c. we have new details ahead. a massive fire is raging in yosemite national park. it has burned more than 2,000 acres so far. cnn is live on the scene. than just an investoru're e
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time now for five things to know for your new day. former trump strategist steve bannon suddenly wants to testify before the january 6th committee, one week before he goes on trial for defying the committee's subpoena. >> chuck schumer testing positive for covid, experiencing very mild symptoms, we're told. he is planning to work remotely this week. >> and more than 30 million people are under heat advisories today across the southern and central plains as temperatures are set to hit the 90s and triple digits. >> in maryland, police investigating arson and vandalism at three separate churches within miles of each other. they include package to pews, crosses, headstones and
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overturned statues. >> and a pregnant texas woman who got a ticket for driving in the hov lane claims she was not driving alone because her fetus should count as a passenger now that roe v. wade has been overturned. the texas penal code recognizes the fetus as a person but the transportation code does not. >> more on these stories all day on cnn and don't forget to download the five things podcast every morning. go to the fast-moving wildfire in yosemite park shows no signs of stopping and it's threatening the sequoia trees that are thousands of years old. cnn's nick watt is joining us with the latest. tell us what's going on. >> reporter: right now we have more than 500 firefighters on the ground battling to save these 500 majestic sequoia trees, some of them over 2,000 years old.
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