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jerusalem declaration, and in this declaration, there will include an american commitment that iran will never be able to attain a nuclear weapon, and israel will defend by itself if needed. >> a lot of news tomorrow. thank you very much. to our viewers, thank you very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, fake electors. new details about the justice department's investigation into trump's plot to overturn the election. is merrick garland closer to a criminal indictment? and obama reprimanding the former white house doctor, his former white house doctor ronny jackson. what did he say and why did he lose his cool? and sit the most closely watched senate race of the year. one candidate has been off the rail for two months and another accused of spending more time in a neighboring state.
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what is going on? let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, will merrick garland indict donald trump? tonight, a major clue into what investigators are focusing on, that is the fake electors, those fake electors from contested states. bennie thompson, the chairman of the january 6th committee, saying his committee is providing the doj with witness transcripts to put up the fraj la -- fraudulentelectors. they've included testimony from the chairwoman of the republican national committee, describing a call that she received from the former president and his attorney, john eastman. >> he turned the call over to mr. eastman, who then proceeded to talk about the importance of
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the rnc helping the campaign gather these contingent electors in case any of the legal challenges that were ongoing changed the result -- >> did you receive a call from andy y biggs of arizona on the morning of january 6th? >> i did. he asked if i would sign on both to a letter that had been sent to my state and/or that i would support the desert fi case of the electors, and i said i would not. >> a staffer for ron johnson texted a staffer forevice president pence just minutes before the beginning of the joint session, stating that senator johnson wished to hand dlifer to the vice president the fake elector votes from michigan and wisconsin. >> all right. so chairman thompson also has a message tonight for steve bannon, who claims he's willing to testify before the committee.
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>> we have a subpoena that listed a number of documents that he needed to produce for us. so i would say before we engage mr. bannon at all, he will have to comply with that subpoena. that has not happened yet. >> now, it remains to be seen if bannon complies for his chaim to testify is a stunt to mock the whole process as the justice department alleges. bannon was a key player in trump's claim to power. according to newly published audio, bannon had insight into trump's plan for election tay. here is steve bannon speaking to so-called associates three days before the actual election. >> what trump's going to do is declare victory. he's going to declare victory, and he's just going to say he won.
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>> then on december 30th, after many in trump's circle told the president he lost the circle, by this point, every single sane individual knew this, bannon still convinced trump to return to washington for the stop the steal rally that. is according to "the washington post" reporters in their new book, saying -- >> just yesterday, we learned that steve bannon spoke to the president ice on january 5th, one time just minutes before he said this, just minutes before he went public on his radio show and said this. >> all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. just understand this. all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. >> manu, you have been speaking to january 6th committee members all day. what more have you learned about
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their investigation and what happens in these next crucial few days? >> top democrats are telling me tonight that they believe that the committee has amassed enough information to get the justice department to investigate donald trump's actions. that's what adam schiff told me today, as well as the senate judiciary committee told me, as well. the committee has a process to allow the justice department to come in and view some witness transcripts. but also it could expand into more issues, as well. one issue that could come up, potential of witness tampering. that's one that liz cheney brought up, a phone call that donald trump made to a potential witness. they didn't connect, but that information was eventually relayed to the justice department. but the committee acknowledging to me today, the chairman, bennie thompson, that they don't know why donald trump made that phone call to that individual, and they have no other
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information other than that. but they say the ball is now in the justice department's court. now, the committee itself plans to have a hearing next week to focus on 187 minutes. those minutes that counted down as the capitol was being attacked, which donald trump did not act. they say new information about that time frame, when they said according to one committee member who said most presidents could act on the first or second minute. donald trump did not. but erin, that could be the last hearing for some time. the committee will write its report, not have another hearing before that report is done, detailing everything is done, released sometime in the fall. >> of course, a hearing in the fall, political election season. manu, thank you very much. i want to go to stephanie grisham, the former trump white house press secretary, who resigned january 6th. ryan goodman, former special counsel and co-editor in chief
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of the legal blog, and our justice reporter. so ryan, let me start with you, what manu is reporting. he talks to the chair of the committee today who says the justice department is only interested in the fake elector scheme right now, and the information that the committee has amassed on that. so let's just start with one simple question here -- is there enough that you have seen on that issue from the committee to have a criminal indictment of the former president? >> well, i think first is there enough to criminally investigate donald trump as the target of the investigation, around it's just beyond the line, absolutely. in fact, it would be dereliction if the justice department is not doing that right now. but there is evidence that points to an indictment. the ronniea mcdaniel testimony, and we have a judge that said eastman and trump more likely than not engaged in criminal
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conspiracy and said the ultimate side was a critical objective of the conspiracy. since then, we have seen a lot of testimony from former trump officials discussing how that plan manifested. >> so this is crucial. you have him at the center as the target, that you certainly have enough for an investigation and potentially an indictment. kaitlan, the think what bennie thompson said is right now the doj was only interested in the fake elector scheme. however, from your reporting, does it seem that the doj will ask the panel for more? will go beyond the fake e will be f-- electors? >> that is the way this will go, but right now, we have watched the house focus on donald trump, they have interviewed more than a thousand witnesses, so more than a thousand transcripts they have of people at lots of high
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levels of the justice department, at the administration of the trump campaign. the justice department is working from bottom up. they are starting with the rioters, and then they're now peeling back these political layers. one of the layers that they're looking into is the fake electors. thompson did discuss that as one of the things they're working with the justice department on, sharing those transcriptis. but there are many other threads through our reporting of this jthd in justice department investigation. just recently, we know he spoke to the house committee, something that the justice department may want to compare he told both entities. we also know that the justice department was looking into john eastman, jeffrey clark at the justice department, and we also know that they are looking into the extremist groups still, the proud boys and the oath keepers. so the committee, they have talked to lots and lots of witnesses about those very things, about those people. and so right now, we are at a
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point where the justice department may be dove tailing more and more as time goes on with what the committee has done so far. >> so stephanie, i want to ask you about steve bannon. i just played the audio of him before the election, three days, saying trump is going to declare victory, no matter if he wins or not. obviously you know steve bannon and spent plenty of time in the room with him during the parts of the campaign. what was your reaction when you heard that? and given your knowledge of trump, how confident are you that trump paid attention to what steve bannon was telling him what to do? >> when i heard the audio, it was chilling, and i really hope that all americans listen to it. i wasn't surprised at all. and i think that -- i think that of course trump would be listening to bannon, because bannon was telling him everything he wanted to hear. i know from my own experience, trump will keep saying no to people until he finds somebody
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that says yes. and steve bannon was doing that in that moment. another thing is that nothing ever gets done without trump. trump knows all. people don't say anything without his blessing. i know that. i was his press secretary. so the fact 245that bannon said that makes me believe that trump said that to bannon, they discussed it, and trump was well aware and planning to do what happened. >> it's just a powerful indictment just from your words there, stephanie. we learned yesterday about two phone calls that steve bannon had with trump on january 5th. he calls him, and he gets off the phone with trump and then says all hell will break loose. so bannon is the one who, according to kostas and woodward, does all of this add up to trump? when the whole point here is, how much planning? they proved this wasn't
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spontaneous. how much planning from the president himself went into this? >> it's remarkable. in that audio recording, steve bannon says this is our strategy. in fact, that's the strategy that plays out. it's really remarkable. it points to trump and bannon has some crucial information that he's willing to go to prison not to reveal to the committee about this. >> so when he's saying now i will be willing to testify after fighting the subpoena, and trump's involved in this whole last-minute testimony, seems like a mockery, is that real or how is this going to play out? how does the doj see it? >> one could call that a defense strategy he's trying. he's asking again to delay his trial just a few days ago. the judge said no, we're not going to delay the trial. so we'll see them in court tomorrow, see if the judge buying this attempt. it doesn't seem likely. but what we know about this case as we look at it is that it
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really is finite. it's very self-contained. the justice department is ready to go to trial on monday when jury selection is set to begin. they want to call two witnesses, maybe three. they want to keep it to three days, maybe four. very succinct and efficient. they said in their recent filings that this isn't about compliance or extracting information from steve bannon to them or to the house. this is about punishing him for not showing up in the house select investigation. so that is what they're going to trial over and will keep it to that stas far as we know. >> stephanie, you resigned january 6th. next week in that hearing, we are going to hear about that 187 minutes of the riot which trump was silent. he did nothing. he did nothing publicly. you have written about a text
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exchange you had with melania. is there any doubt in your mind, stephanie, about why trump did not act during that time? >> why mrs. trump didn't act? >> i'm sorry, either one, but obviously i'm focusing on the former president, but her, as well with her relationship with him. >> i think that the president did not act because he was enjoying watching people fight for him. and i think he truly was trying to have this election overturned. mrs. trump, i don't know why she didn't. she had always been a voice of reason. it's a lot of the reason i stayed with her for so long. she was the first to speak out with charlottesville. she had no problem going against some of the west wing messaging, and sometimes it was force her husband's hand. when she said no, and didn't even explain to me why, that really crushed me and led me to believe, and i still believe that she knew her husband would be marching on the capitol or
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something big would go on that day and decided not to act. >> thank you all very much. i appreciate it. next, new details about who is in the 77 minute surveillance video from robb elementary school during that horrific uvalde shooting. we see police doing nothing, and now more on who they are. and former president obama takes on his own former doctor. who he wrote to ronny jackson, after jackson questioned biden's mental health. and lawyers for wnba star brittney griner will be back in a russian courtroom. new details on theirir specific request, tonight. this is the sound of better breaththing. fafasenra is an add-on treatment for asthma driven by eosinophils. it helps prevent asthma attacks, improve breathing, d lower use of oral steroids. fasenra is not a rescue medicatio or for othereosinophi. fasenra may cause alleic reactions.
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tonight, growing questions about who leaked surveillance footage of the uvalde elementary school shooting and why. the 77 minutes of video now public is fueling criticism about why police stood around waiting more than an hour to go in that classroom door and kill the shooter. a texas lawmaker is adding crucial context, saying the uvalde officer you see here checking his phone is ruben ruiz, the husband of ava, one of two teachers killed.
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"outfront" now, vince salazar, the father of leila salazar, one of the 19 children who were killed that day in uvalde. and vince, i can't pretend to understand how difficult every day is for you and to see this footage. as you watch it and i -- you know, what stands out to you as you try to get accountability? >> i think the main thing that stood out to me was that, you know, the amount of time they were in there that, you know, the amount of law enforcement there and just them not acting. you're there. there's a shooter in the school, shots are being fired. and you're just standing in a hallway. there's just no excuse for ma. >> it's incomprehensible. you know, we know -- >> it is. >> -- more than one officer knew
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someone in that room, whether a spouse or a child. it makes it even more incomprehensible. we see this officer standing around, and they're not doing anything. one gets hand sanitizer in one of the most jarring moments, and this happens for an hour. we don't hear the audio, and thank god for that. but they did. they were there. they were listening to it. i mean, what in the world -- what in the world should happen to them that would, in your mind, give you some kind of justice? >> i think at the bare minimum, shea shouldn't even have jobs. i mean, i just don't see how -- i just don't see how through all this time nobody has been fired, nobody has resigned. i think peter resigned from city
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council but not from his job. it's frustrating, because you can see that these guys were in there and they just didn't do their jobs. if it was any one of us not doing our job, we would haven't a job. in that line of work, you know that every day you wake up, that something like this could happen, and you accept that and you, you know, most officers do do their jobs. but to see that and the way it happened like that, it's ridiculous. >> the mayor of uvalde says he wants to ask for a criminal investigation into the leak of this video. but at the core of the video vince, is putting the botched response by police right in the face of every american, right? so now they have to see the 77 minutes, they have to see it. and there is something even more unbearable about that.
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do you see any value in this made public or do you think that that is just absolutely wrong? >> umm, i think there is some value. you know, from the hallway and walk down the next hallway and start opening fire. if that doesn't open eyes, i don't know what will. that can't happen, you know. there is a failure on so many levels. those doors should have been locked. i understand it's the last few days of school, but you can't put your guard down even for a second. we all know these schools are targets, and this is -- i just can't -- you know, i can't fathom how easy it was, you know, for him to just do what he did. you know, somebody has to be
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held accountable for sure. >> we all will continue to fight to make sure that's the case. i appreciate your speaking, vince. but you use the word lackadaisical. seeing how nonchalant and seeing everyone walking so casually. something about seeing it does make it -- we can all only hope possible to have accountability. thank you. >> i'm sure we will. thank you, erin, for having me on. >> all right. next, president obama saying the words "cheap shot," those are his angry words he's directing towards his former white house doctor. and the family of former u.s. marine paul whelan who has been held in russia for more than three years, pinning their hopes on bill richardson, heading to russia to secure his freedom. his sister is "outfront." so many bubbles!
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tonight, cheap shot. that's what president barack obama called his former white
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house doctor. ro ronny jackson tweeted in february 2020, remember the cognitive test i gave donald trump -- obama wrote an e-mail writing, i have to express my disappointment at the cheap shot you took at joe biden. it was unprofessional and beneath the office you once held and it was disrespectful to me and the many friends you had in our administration. i respect better and i hope you expect more of yourself in the future. "outfront" now van jones. okay, van, you know, look, he knows the rule. you write it, and then you put it away for a few days and decide whether or not to send it and he did. how out of character was it for obama to choose to send it to dr. jackson?
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>> well, look, i think people misunderstand president obama. they act like he's some kind of care bear, pooh bear. this guy was tough, and he had high standards for everybody on the team. and he -- we talk about no drama obama. that was real. he does take offense and umbrage to people who are beneath the dignity of the office. you do not play when you're on barack obama's team. i think he was pissed. i don't know that he does a lot of writing that way, but he's not a care bear, he's not a pooh bear. he had high standards. he fought from chicago to the white house and had a team of loyal people. for somebody to go off script that way and medically evaluate joe biden, who he's never medically evaluated, that is wrong. and i'm not surprised that obama felt that way. >> so joe biden today was asked about a potential rematch between himself and donald
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trump, which is a front burner issue in u.s. politics. i want to play for you what biden said. >> i'm not predicting, but i would -- i would not be disappointed. i'm not even halfway through my term yet. there's a lot of room to figure out what is going to happen. >> all right. so that was actually -- there was a little bit of wavering there. but i would not be disappointed if the rematch was between himself and donald trump. but also saying, not even halfway through, a lot of room to figure out what's going to happen. is it your sense, van, that biden believes he's still the best person to defeat trump if that is the race? >> he thinks he can beat him badly again. obviously, the polls show some democrats are worried or nervous. but look, you have both these guys that think biden saying, i beat you last time, i'll beat you again. trump is saying you cheated, i'll get you next time. it's like two old guys yelling
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at each other across the lawn. it's not that pleasant to watch. i think that biden believes that he can beat trump again. he beat him the last time and beat him again, and i don't think that he fills at this point he should be asked to back off or to not be the standard bearer. >> of course, you're not even at the midterms yet. looking at today's inflation report, it's bad, okay? it's really bad. people are paying 9% more for just basic stuff than they were a year ago. 9% in one year. forget talk about whether wage growth is outpacing this, it isn't. how bad is this for democrats? >> i think it's bad. anybody that -- if you want to play it and spin it, obviously this is the hangover from covid and supply chains and the war in ukraine, that type of stuff. but at the end of the day, the democratic party, we have the white house, the senate, and we've got the house. and voters are going to hold us accountable.
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i think that what democrats have to continue to do is to point out this is not permanent. that there are steps being taken on the fed side to deal with inflation. the administration is moving aggressively to figure out the supply chain issues and doing what they can. but elections have consequences. we're in charge and will be held accountable. >> and there's still $2.5 trillion left in people's dockets. when it comes to having a cushion, that is not good for the cycle. and it could be the most consequential race of the year. that could determine who controls the senate. that's why it's so crucial. john fetterman has been off the campaign trail for months due to the sudden stroke he had. and the republican, dr. oz, is facing questions about why he's not in the state, he's apparently been in new jersey and not capitalizing on his opponent's absence on the
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campaign trail in pennsylvania. jeff zeleny is "outfront" tonight in pittsburgh. >> reporter: it's been two months since john fetterman hit the campaign trail in pennsylvania. a race with mehmet oz that could determine the balance of power in the senate. fetterman is still slowly emerging from a near deadly s setback, a stroke and heart condition that sent him to the hospital. four days later, he swept to an easy democratic primary victory. but ever sense, he's been sidelined and fighting to recover. a surprise visit with democratic volunteers last weekend, seep here in this edited campaign video, shows the promise of his return and the serious steps still ahead in his rehabilitation. >> we will be back on the trail soon! we're almost at 100%. [ applause ] >> reporter: his speech is halting, yet stronger, aides say, than a month ago.
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>> it was almost the end of my life, and it's changed my life since then. >> reporter: his surprise appearance at the pittsburgh campaign office brought a smile and sense of relief to gladys. >> it was great to see him. he was, you know, he just looked so vibrant, like he really came through all of those difficult health problems. >> have you been wondering how he's been doing? >> yes, i have. >> reporter: while oz is seeking to capitalize as his celebrity as a tv doctor, some republicans wonder if he's taking advantage of fetterman's absence. >> pennsylvania is our home. and it's worth fighting for. >> reporter: from afar, fetterman is badgering oz for moving to pennsylvania. after living in new jersey for more than three decades. flying a welcome home banner
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over the jersey shore. >> i'm here to speak truth to tower. r >> reporter: and blast ed ooze for filming an ad from his jersey mansion. >> the last time fetterman appeared at a campaign event was they 12. his wife said she noticed something was wrong the next morning. >> came back to the car, he was talking to me, and for one second, his mouth moved in an unnatural way. immediately, i rushed him to the hospital. >> reporter: he left the hospital nine days later with a defibrillator implanted in his chest, to recover just outside of pittsburgh. summer lee, who is running for congress, said she often sees fetterman out walking as he continues to recover. >> obviously, the sooner we can get him back on the trail the better. if we can get him back for the long haul, you know, after labor day, i think he's going to be in good shape.
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we are going to be better for that. >> jeff, look, months off the trail. this race is so crucial. you know, you've got a rival who doesn't spend much time in the state. how is this playing out with voters? are the voters that you spoke to worried about fetterman's health, his ability to do the job? >> reporter: look, erin, fetterman has been out of sight but not out of mind. usually several times a day, sometimes hour by hour, he's engaged on social media, responding to the issues of the day on twitter, going after oz on twitter, as well. but the voters we talked to have been wondering whether he is. have been wondering how his health is. it's all out of concern, of course. but there was a deep sense of relief when his campaign posted that video on saturday of him walking and speaking. the question, of course, will he be ready for debates with oz in the fall? they're talking about august 15, the last day to change his name
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tonight, lawyers for wnba star brittney griner preparing for a court hearing tomorrow where they will ask the russian court for a lighter sentence. she faces up to ten years if convicted and pled guilty to drug charges for carrying a vape pen with cannabis oil. this comes as cnn learns bill richardson will travel to moscow to secure her release, as well as former u.s. marine paul whelen, who has been in prison there for more than three years. the white house says both are wrongfully detained. i want to bring in now paul whelan's sister, elizabeth. i appreciate your time.
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more than three years, to imagine what your brother, with no sense of where this goes or how long it can be, you have bill richardson ready to make this trip. the state department says your brother's case is a priority. why do you feel you are right now? do you feel this is close to happening, paul coming home? >> i certainly hope so. i know that basically outside the u.s. government is definitely coordinated and really desires to get paul and brittney griner home. i don't think that there's any lack of enthusiasm or that. but i also believe the national security adviser jake sullivan said monday, this will require government-to-government solution. hostage diplomacy like this is a really serious business. >> it certainly is. brittney griner's case got a lot
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of attention, and to be frank with you, that's where more people are talking about your brother again. i know you were frustrated. you tweeted that you were ringry that joe biden spoke about your brother in a call with brittney griner's family. that was the call he made, instead of calling you directly. you voiced that frustration and he did end up calling you. but i just wonder, elizabeth, when you think about more than three years you have been fight thing battle, are you concerned with all the attention that brittney griner's case is getting, that paul could be left behind again? >> well, it's really difficult, because each case is different. sometimes the hostile foreign nation who is holding an american wants to do different negotiations for different people. that's not something the whelan family can control. i've never been mad at the griner family or each at the president, but i have been upset about the proces
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sometimes we just don't know where we are, and families aren't always given the detail of the information. but with this administration, we have had a lot of interaction. so you're always concerned about what is going to happen next. 3 1/2 years, we're exhausted. >> i know you have been able to share some of the developments related with your brother, you've been able to have a conversation, about your call with joe biden. i can imagine -- i know those calls are important to you, i can only imagine how important they are with him with his situation. how is he doing? >> well, he's doing about as well as you can expect after 3 1/2 years in a russian forced labor camp. he's lost about 20% of his body weight. he's really trying to hang in there. he's trying to be as strong as he can. he speaks to our parents in 15-minute calls, a number of times a week right now, which is really good. for the first 18 months, we weren't able to speak with him at all. so he's doing the best he can.
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i think the call from the president really lifted his spirits. you know, you can't get any higher than that. he knows everyone is fighting for him. >> i can only imagine. russian forced labor camp, what that even entails in the historic context. what is it that your family is asking for right now or expects? >> well, i think we've been pleased at the recent outreach with information, you know, to let us know that the u.s. government is united in trying to get paul back, that he remains a priority. and i know that's a word unfortunately that's been used too often recently. there are 50 something families of americans being held in 18 different countries. we all want to be a priority and we all want that call from the president. i think of course we want paul back right away that's the first
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thing we want. wit but the other thing i'm looking for is a better way to deal with these hostile foreign nations and punishment and deterrence to stop them from doing it again. this is just an awful situation. >> elizabeth, thank you very much. i appreciate you taking the time. >> thank you so much for having me. i really appreciate it. hopefully we'll have some good news before too long. >> yes, we all hope. next, russia is continuing in its war, its barrage on ukraine's front lines. and a heart beat like sound heard in space detected from a galaxy a billion light years away. somewhat is it?
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kardia also gives you access to heart health reports and automatic ekg sharing. what next? let's get some fresh air. been cooped up for too long. yeah... ♪ bum bum ♪ kardia mobile card is available for just $99. get yours at or amazon. tonight the white house calling on russia to immediately release civilians deported from ukraine. calling it a war crime. 1.6 million ukrainians including more than a quarter million children have been detained forcibly from their wills and deported from their homes to russia. comes as ukraine says an elementary school was hit by a rocket in the front line city of mclave. ivan watson is "out front."
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>> reporter: this used to be a classroom in school number 60 in the southern ukrainian city of mikilaiv that is until before dawn on tuesday when what appears to be a russian rocket slammed into the building. nobody was hurt thankfully perhaps due to the time of day, its summer vacation right now, but look what's left. the principal says this school was constructed more than 100 years ago. it's completely devastated now. and the ukrainian authorities hearsay the same morning the city was hit by nearly two dozen other impacts, including a hospital, which just goes to show that nothing and nobody really is safe in this conflict zone. >> this is terrorism and that's it. because this is like a strategy of russian to scare civilian
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people so make panic. >> reporter: what is your message to your own residents when a school can be blown up like this? >> once again, it was better than it was. >> reporter: the fighting is intensifying. ukrainian forces have succeeded in pushing back russian troops in some areas and ukrainians also claim to have carried out some strikes deep behind russian front lines destroying what they claim are ammunition depots and even a russian military officer's position. the ukrainian government is urging residents of the nearby russian occupied city of kherson to go back. they are anticipating more fighting in the near future. in the meantime, the russian community plans to lob back long-range munitions in places like mykolaiv.
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they say some other type of russian artillery hit the courtyard of this school back in early april spraying the walls of the nearby gymnasium with shrapnel. this school has been hit twice since the russians invaded ukraine in february of this year, and with mykolaiv, this city so close to the front lines, things could get much worse here in the near future. >> i mean, ivan, amazing. you talk about how things could get much worse. obviously, you know, the ukrainians are saying they need a whole lot more u.s. weapons systems. obviously some of that material has already gotten there. what are you hearing about it? is it -- how significant is what they're getting? how much of an impact is it having? >> reporter: well, there is an impact because both the ukrainians and the russians are talking about these long-range
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precision u.s. weapon systems called himars. the ukrainians grateful and celebrating these long-distance strikes deep behind russian front lines. the russians denouncing them. we're hearing for the second time this week of strikes in a town called nova kharkova which is deep behind russian territory. they're saying himars were used to strike a depot there. we don't know if these attacks are taking place day after day are enough to change the tide of this battle. the ukrainians claim they hurt ukrainian -- russian morale and they're lousing up logistics and -- meaning that there's no real safe space in areas where the russians thought they could freely operate even a week or two ago. back to you. >> ivan, thank you so much. live in ukraine tonight. next, researchers hear a
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tonight mystery heartbeat detected in space. every fraction of a second they recorded a boom, boom, boom. that heartbeat similar to what happens when stars run out of fuel and collapse. what about real heartbeats in space? the new james webb telescope might change our most fundamental understanding. already it's picked up water vapor on a jupiter type crater. that star is only 1,000 light years away. water vapor. just imagine what that could mean? ac 360 starts now. good evening. a day after the seventh public hearing by the january 6th committee, we have new information about a separate justice department investigation and how it ties in about the effort to overturn the elections, specifically that scheme to install fake electors. we want to start with that tonight on capitol hill with