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where you get your podcasts. coverage continues now with mr. wolf blitzer and the situation room . happening now, president biden and the i israeli prime minister agreed to stop iran from getting a nuclear weapon but are divided on how to accomplish that. i will speak with their israeli ambassador to the united states. a new report that the january 6th select committee is considering rather to seek testimony from former vice president mike pence and former president trump. this is trump reportedly says he is decided when, not if when he will announce a 2024 run for the white house. on the scene of a russian
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attack in central ukraine. president zelenskyy is calling it an act of terrorism. welcome to the viewers in the united states and around the world. i am wolf blitzer. you are in the situation room . it is 1:00 friday in jerusalem. this is the final hours of president biden's visit here before he heads to saudi arabia. tonight, the team is bracing for the trip to be a major test of he is diplomacy. jeremy diamond is with us in jerusalem. jeremy, clearly the effort to try to stop iran from developing a nuclear bomb was at the forefront of the talks. >> reporter: president biden and yair lapid met for an hour and
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a half earlier today. they covered everything from defense cooperation to the partnership between israel and arab countries. it was largely a show of unity. you also did see some daylight between the two sides as president biden reaffirmed his interest in resolving this diplomatically while the is really former president trump mr. called for muscular approach. president biden warning iran his patients is limited. >> we are waiting for the response. when that will come, i'm not certain. we are not going to wait forever. they have the opportunity to accept this agreement that has been laid down. if they don't, we have made it absolutely clear that we will not allow iran to acquire a nuclear weapon. >> reporter: biden defended his effort to get iran to agree to limits. >> i continue to believe
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diplomacy is the best way to achieve this. >> reporter: even as yair lapid urged biden to adopt a more muscular approach. >> words were not stop this, mr. president. diplomacy will not stop this. the only thing that will stop iran is knowing that if they continue to develop their nuclear program, the free world will use force. >> reporter: biden addressed reporters among the world would meetings. he acknowledged jerusalem as israel's capitol . he faced no questions about the top issue back at home. record new numbers in inflation that he said is acceptably high. tomorrow, biden steps into another controversy, coming face to face with saudi arabia's crown prince. the first meeting since biden
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took office and approved the release of a report. >> my views on jamal khashoggi have been positively clear. i have never been quiet about talking about human rights. >> reporter: he stopped short of promising to ring up the late journalist. >> i always bring up human rights. i always bring up human rights. >> reporter: biden is focused on bringing another message as he tries to expand the abraham accords and nudge the powerful kingdom towards normalizing relations with israel. >> when i see the leadership tomorrow, i will be carrying a direct message. a message of peace and opportunity for a more stable integrated region. >> reporter: the palmist on display with the resident of
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the united arab emirates to seal a partnership on food insecurity. and before president biden heads to saudi arabia, he will go to the west bank where he is accepted to meet with the president. while president biden has not launched the effort with the palestinians and israelis, he is looking for confidence building measures. we are expecting him to announce $100 million of aid to hospitals where he will visit them in east jerusalem. >> thanks very much. joining is now israel's ambassador to the united states michael herzog. thank you for joining us. president biden reaffirmed the u.s. commitment to try to prevent iran from developing a nuclear weapon. that is top priority for israel as well. it seems that there is a difference between yair lapid and president biden as how to
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achieve that. listen to what they said today. >> diplomacy will not stop them. the only thing that will stop iran is knowing that if they continue to develop their nuclear program, the free world will use force. >> i continue to believe that diplomacy is the best way to achieve this outcome. >> are they on the same page when it comes to dealing with iran and the nuclear program? >> let me explain the position on this. israel is not against a diplomatic outcome. the question is what exactly is in it. we believe that in order for the outcome to be successful, effective, long-term, it has to be based on deterrence.
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they will not do anything voluntarily. they have to see the possibility of mounting pressure including the last result option. nobody is pushing for war. the iranians, they react to this otherwise they will not get anything. >> do you support the u.s. effort to revive the nuclear deal? >> we have a very -- again, i say on the record, we are not against diplomacy. what we are saying is that for diplomacy to succeed, it has to be based on the solid basis. >> what about the u.s. effort to try to help normalize relations between israel and saudi arabia? what did you hear from the president today? >> we are very much in favor of normalizing this. saudi arabia is an important country in the region and beyond. we would like to expand the
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circle to include saudi arabia. i think the president is definitely on board of that. there is logic to this visit to saudi arabia. talking about iran and a threat to the region, iran is a big stabilizer to this region. it cooperates with some outside forces that would like to push back. i think the president understands that and his mission to us is very clear . he is going to saudi arabia to expand this between israel and the united states, and have stability in the region, and build cooperation. >> can israel really establish solid relations with the arab world without addressing the palestinian conflict? >> first, we already have a
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peace agreement, war and peace, neighbors in the region. ultimately i believe that it is also a problem as well. they have acted properly and i believe they know that and looking ahead, normalizing relations we have with the arab world, israelis, palestinians can benefit from that. >> you heard over the past two or so days, he calls it a two state solution. a new state of palestine emerging next to israel. is israel ready for a two state solution? >> he reaffirmed the well-known position on that. as we know, in israel we have
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election season. it is very sensitive. one big issue dividing our society is the pressing issue. you heard the prime minister reiterate his own position in favor of the two state solution, but expressing a government opinion is more complicated given the division within the current government. >> are you ready to sit down with leadership and negotiations ? >> i don't think that is in the cards right now. the president has not said as much. i don't think both parties are ready for it right now. we are heading towards elections . on the palestinian side, you have an entity that is not ready for that. short of that, we are ready and have taken a series of measures
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to enhance the stability and the strength to reduce friction on the ground. it is one of the things that israel has done. we are doing more. >> the pa? the palestinian authority. you are ready to work with them? >> the defense minister met with the pa leader last week. there were phone calls between yair lapid and the president. we definitely maintained contact with them. i will say short of it not being in the cards right now, everything else is. >> thanks so much for joining us on this very, very busy day. >> thank you very much. we will get the palestinian perspective on the situation room tomorrow . president biden is going to bethlehem. i will
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the house select committee is weighing whether to take its probe to the top in its effort to get to the truth of what happened that day. ryan has the latest from capitol hill. ryan, adam kinzinger tells the wall street journal that the panel is discussing whether to seek an interview with former vice president mike pence and perhaps even with donald trump. what is the latest? >> reporter: that's right, wolf. we knew for some time the committee has kept the door open to the former vice president and former president. what is different is it may
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consider offering pans a transcribed interview as opposed to sitting for a formal deposition. the committee has not ruled out the possibility of a subpoena of former president trump as well. this has been a discussion since the beginning. the community is not ruling that out but i've been told by sources it is still very unlikely that we could see that through a subpoena. it may be difficult to enforce and they are not sure the information they would get from donald trump would even be valuable. it is significant that what could be the late stages of the january 6th investigation that they are still leaving the door open with perhaps the two most important players, mike pence and donald trump. >> the department of homeland security's inspector general
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says the inspector general erased text messages from january 5th and january 6th shortly after they were requested as part of the investigation. what are you learning about that? >> reporter: that's right. in the last few minutes, bennie thompson, also the chair of the january 6th, said he is very concerned with this development and the destruction of these documents. what the department of homeland security's inspector general is claiming is that his office requested text messages from secret service agents from january 5th and january 6th. the secret service ended up deleting those text messages as they were going through a device replacement program. at this point, the inspector general is not accusing the secret service of doing anything necessarily incorrect or wrong but he is pointing out
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this is a problem. this is information they wanted. they are claiming it was deleted after the request was made. he also expressed concern it is taking a long time to get information because it has to go through a regulus review. the secret service is planning a response to this, wolf. they have not issued that response yet. it is another situation that has members of the january 6th select committee concerned. wolf. >> obviously very, very awkward. if you get that response, let us know. thank you very much. joining us now is maggie haberman. we also have john kasich, the former republican governor from ohio. they have been dangling this possibility for months now. is there any chance they actually go for it now right as they are wrapping up this round
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of public hearings? >> there is certainly a chance, wolf, but it is not likely. you are seeing different members of the select committee voicing things that not necessarily everybody else sees the same way or they have had a unified discussion about. it is certainly an option. as you say, we have had a signal this is going to be it in terms of hearings, at least for a couple weeks, possibly entirely until the fall. it would be hard to issue a subpoena to former president trump and former vice president mike pence and get them to comply very quickly. >> i think you are right. governor kasich, the committee has heard from those around trump and pence. how much would the investigation really benefit for a fight for trump's
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testimony? >> i think, wolf, we have a lot of people who agreed to go to the committee and they can feel more comfortable going. i agree with maggie. i can't imagine they're going to move forward with a subpoena for donald trump. it will drag it out. the hearings are expected -- this is the last hearing for a while, i don't think that is the end of them. i think we will see more of these hearings. i think it will go into the fall. i think they want to get to the bottom of this. it will be interesting to see what mike pence has to say . he might be willing to do something. he might be willing to say something. i think it is in his interest, the country's interest to hear the full story as well. >> maggie, donald trump -- this is very interesting, be on the verge of announcing a 2024 presidential campaign.
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he told new york magazine he has already made up his mind and it is a matter of when, not if. how much is that weighing on the potential decision? >> that was a great piece. i do think that the potential legal challenges that he faces, all of that factors into why he is keeping this alive. i will say, wolf, that he is benefiting from the speculation around him . it is less likely that he has to jump in. one of the thing donald trump likes above all else, in addition to raising money as a potential candidate, he likes the attention. he is getting a lot of that right now. i'm not sure he actually needs to declare getting that he is getting all this attention
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still. >> a good point, too. let's talk about the timing of all of this. he says he might announced just before the midterms. could that be a major boost? could that turn out to be a major boost to democrats? >> i think you would have a greater turnout, potentially, from democrats and could probably affect the races in the midterm. there are two or three races right now that are extremely, extremely close. getting a bigger turnout from the democrats might mean those races go to the democrats and some like in pennsylvania are held by republicans. you could have a democrat elected. the house races, i don't think as much. those districts are pretty set. it is likely the republicans will win the u.s. house of representatives. the big issue is going to be inflation, the economy. it always is. this could affect the senate races. it will probably have mitch mcconnell up late at night worrying if they will actually win the senate.
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i think that is pretty much a foregone conclusion. >> maggie, i want to ask you about the deaf of ivana trump who just passed away at the age of 73. you have covered the trump family for a long time. give us your thoughts. >> look, it was an unexpected death. any time somebody loses a parent, it is terrible. the trumps were very well documented and they remain close. they remain a unit as a family. i think it is very sad for all of them. she was a new york institution as much as he was. in some ways, her own institution. it feels like the end of an era. >> we will have much more on the life of ivana trump later this
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hour on the situation room. guys, thank you very much for joining us. coming up, president biden is preparing for tense talks in saudi arabia. why won't he commit to raising the murder of jamal khashoggi with the crown prince? i will ask chris murphy who was standing by live. stay with us. you are watching the situation room. we are live from jerusalem. eme it with a nenew one of the same make and model. get a whole lot of something with farmers policy perks. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum,m, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ (fisher investments) in this market, you'll find fisher investments is different than other money managers. (other money manager) different how? aren't we all just looking for the hottest stocks? (fisher investment nope. we use diversified strategies to position our client's portfolios for theilong-term goals. (other money manager) but you stl sell investments th generate high commissions for you, right? (fisher investments) no, we don'tell commission products. wee a fiduciary, obligated to act in our client's best interest.
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will be working for the advancement of the united states. there is certainly a lot at stake. let's bring in our jerusalem correspondent. explained to the viewers why this trip to saudi arabia is seen as so important for the israelis and saudi's. >> even just the flight president biden is taking is being seen as an important symbol of this budding relationship. it would be the crown jewel in their normalization routes. nobody is expecting normalization to be declared on this trip. they are expecting small steps showing that it is just -- it doesn't sound like a
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big deal but a few years ago, that would have been absolutely unthinkable. wolf, what is really pushing a lot of the abraham accords, the shared concern over iran. not just about iran's nuclear ambitions but activity in the region. the drones, the missiles, things other countries have experienced as well. there is a talk about a regional air defense system. even the former prime minister talked about creating a regional nato where the countries would work together to help defend one another. there is a lot of shared interest. for saudi arabia, there is a lot of interest in technology. the new iron beam defense system, using those technologies in the rest of the region. >> all right, hadas gold, reporting for us. joining us now is senator
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chris murphy. senator, thanks for joining us. how concerned are you that president biden today would not publicly commit to raising jamal khashoggi's murder when he meets with the saudi crown prince. >> i think what is much more important is what commitment the saudis make. the saudis know what we think of the murder of jamal khashoggi. they know that we know. are they going to change? right now, they have over 100 political prisoners locked up. they have americans they are refusing to leave saudi arabia. my belief is that this is an important trip for the president to make so long as the saudis make commitment to change. if the united states continues to demonstrate to the world
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that we are willing to put aside our support for democracy and human rights when it comes to things like that with the saudis, it does damage for open democracy and regimes that respect human rights. whether or not he brings it up in the meeting, the questions are if the saudis are going to change , if they do, maybe it is worthwhile. >> what message will it send around the world about human rights if president biden is seen shaking hands with the crown prince? >> listen, i think it is overblown, this discussion over shaking hands, bumping fists. we are allies with saudi arabia. i think we should rethink that alliance. as the strongest, most powerful
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nation in the world, we are often in positions where the president and leaders are meeting with our adversaries, sometimes shaking hands with adversaries, meeting with imperfect partners like the saudis . i don't caught up in the visual if the president is shaking hands or not. what i care about is are the saudis going to change? are they going to take steps to end the civil war in yemen? are they going to change their disastrous record of clinical oppression inside saudi arabia ? >> rapid inflation gas prices are a big driver for this trip to saudi arabia . do you expect anything concrete when it comes to the u.s. economy? >> i expect the saudis will make commitments that will put more oil on the world market which will both alleviate some of the problems in the united
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states, but also in europe as well. the question for me, why did it take an emergency visit from the united states' president for the saudis to choose their ally. i thought the point of the decision over multiple administrations to look the other way when the saudis chopped up political opponents, when they bombed civilians inside yemen, when they executed political prisoners was when the chips were down, we would not have to make an emergency visit for the saudis to choose the united states. they would choose to put on more oil. i think it is pretty extraordinary that we have to go to this links. the president is right to do it but it is extraordinary that he has to do it to get the saudis to try to help lower gas prices in the middle of a global crisis like this.
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>> chris murphy, thanks as usual for joining us. >> thank you. just ahead, the federal reserve could be on the brink of another major interest rate hike. what will it mean for american consumers? standby. we are coming to you live from jerusalem. we will be right back. in a buttery brioche roll. made fresh, to leave you..... speechless. panera's new w chef's chicken sandwiches. $1 delivery fefee on our app.
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hike, increasing the cost of borrowing money. the housing market is especially vulnerable to a rate hike. >> it really is, wolf. homebuyers and potential renters across the united states are looking to what the fed will do in the coming days. many are dreading what experts say is inevitable. alexa jensen and her fiance had been looking to buy a home for more than a year and a half. with interest rates being raised, they weren't sure what they could even afford. >> with the new interest rate hikes, we don't know what the bottom line is anymore. >> reporter: last month, the federal reserve raised rates. it was the biggest hike in nearly three decades. tonight, investors and real estate experts have a new warning. >> i'm thinking interest rates are going to go up again.
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>> reporter: experts expect the fed to raise interest rates again, possibly another 3/4% percent and more rate hikes are expected later this year. that means it will be more expensive to borrow money. morgan rates are about 5.5%. this time last year, 2.88%. >> two things are going to happen. you have to pay more for the house because the loan will cost more, or you have to downsize the kind of house you want because it is going to cost you more on a monthly basis to get that mortgage for that house. >> reporter: a few months ago, home prices across the u.s. were high. with interest rates going up, sellers could soon have to lower asking price is because most buyers won't be able to afford a higher home price and higher interest rate. >> if you're looking at selling in the next couple of years,
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now is a great time to do that. for buyers, if you're going to go into a property and lived there for five, six, seven years, i don't see the point of waiting another year to gamble with what is going to happen. >> reporter: homebuyers are not the only ones getting slammed. average monthly rent in manhattan jumped 30% from a year ago. higher interest rates don't affect just dwellings. car loans, credit card bills are about to get more expensive. >> if you have credit card debt, this is key to you waking up that you have to get rid of that debt. it will cost you more. >> reporter: also feeling the pinch, those looking to tap into their retirement account soon. >> the 401(k) balance is down a lot. >> reporter: what do economists think this means big picture? >> we are likely to see a downturn in the recession in the not too distant future.
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>> reporter: it is not all gloom and doom. mark sandy says if there is a recession he believes it will be a modest one, lesser fear than what we have gone through recently. jamie diamond is now softening his dire predictions. he points out consumers are still spending money, jobs are plentiful, and wages are rising. wolf. >> brian todd reporting for us. thank you very, very much. donald trump's first wife, ivana trump, has died at the age of 73. we will have a closer look at her life and their sometimes tumultuous relationship. that is next. [ kimberly ] before clearchoice, my dental health was so bad i would be in a lot of pain. i was unable to eat.
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we have more now on the death of ivanka trump. tonight, former president trump is remembering his first wife as a beautiful, amazing woman who led an inspirational life. for more than a decade donald and ivanka trump were the power couple. after marrying in 1977, she and her husband kept an active social calendar. >> these people were the new stars of the late 80s. >> reporter: ivana was a key partner on projects, supervising design work on trump tower, managing some of
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trumps other properties, and it all resulted in a uniquely trump sort of homeless. >> i was in atlantic city for 10 years, taking a helicopter at 7:00 in the morning from new york and landing on the roof , 6:00 back home, children and homework. they raised three children, donald, ivanka trump and erica, would become key players in the business empire and political aspirations. donald trump was constantly followed by rumors of infidelity , but the gossip came to a head when ivana confirmed trump is having an affair with marla maples. >> you are devastated, of course. then you say, why me? you get angry. >> reporter: using the same fighting tactic, ivanka trump a very public with her divorce battle. >> if you're good to him, he is incredible to you. if you're bad at him, you are dead. >> reporter: but the trump that
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another surprise for the media, a seemingly amicable settlement. even walking out of the courthouse together. ivana went on to become an entrepreneur in her own right. she started a fashion line and wrote books . along the way, she married and divorced her third and fourth husbands and made a movie cameo as the most famous american ex-wife in the first wives club. donald and ivana eventually had a friendly relationship. the even made a commercial together. as his political fortunes rose, their divorce came back to haunt him. document showed that ivana had accused donald trump of raping during an argument. she said it was not interpreted to be in that literal sense. in 2017, ivana trump the
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pushback from the white house when she suggested she limited her communication with the president to avoid making first lady, melania trump, joe ellis. >> i don't want to cause any jealousy or something like that. i am the first trump wife. took a statement from the ladies office called yvonne he and ex-wife and dismissed her comments as self-serving. around the same time, ivana set her ex-husband offered her the ambassador posed to the czech republic, where she grew up under communist rule that she said she turned it down, content with the extravagant life she had built with herself. >> you don't really have a choice. once you become a public person, you are in the public eye. >> ivana trump dead at the age of 73. may she rest in peace , and may her memory be a blessing.
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we are following a russian cruise missile attack in central ukraine that has killed at least 23 people, including three children. scott mclean is on the scene in ukraine. >> reporter: midmorning, a busy commercial district in vinnytsia, far from any frontlines. three missiles landed here, obliterating a medical center, severely damaging buildings all around, offices and a theater. burned-out cars leader of the series. rescue workers comb through the smoking messed wreckage, but
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amid the destruction, little hope of recovering anyone alive. throughout the day, the list of casualties grew. more than 20 people killed, including three children. dozens more injured, many in critical condition. others unaccounted for., the victims, this for-year-old, who was killed in her stroller. her mother was severely injured. with the russians target i know, the defense ministry in moscow has had nothing to say about the attack. ukrainians and say a total of seven cruise missiles were launched from the black sea, four intercepted, tragically, three were not. people here in a state of shock. this woman and her husband own a business service and cash machines. their windows were blown out . >> we have a beautiful,
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peaceful city attacked by a rocker. what for? to this woman didn't seek shelter when the sirens went off half an hour before the missiles hit. >> we didn't go down into the shelter. we were certain this wouldn't happen here. >> reporter: this man was using an atm machine next to his photo store. when the blast went off, he use the machine for cover. >> the shield, which is my only protection. i was lying on the ground, all covered in glass. i didn't know if i survive. you can take a look. the machine a there is completely destroyed. >> reporter: president zelenskyy was addressing a war crimes conference as the full horror emerged . >> this is an active russian terror, he said. people couldn't do this. they are animals. >> reporter: into the evening, the work of searching for victims and clearing wreckage continued. this is the third russian missile attack in the last
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month to have killed more than 20 civilians. as one official put it, nobody knows where the missiles will land tomorrow, or the day after tomorrow. president zelenskyy mentioned that little girl by name in his nightly address, stressing that she was just four years old. is calling on the international community to label russia a terra state, arguing that of the same thing happened in dallas, surely you would call it terrorism. thank you for that report. i will see you again tomorrow. i will be from saudia arabia. erin burnett starts right now. a source telling cnn a washington police officer who is collaborating details of the heated exchange a trump had with his secret service detail when he was told he could not go to the u.s. capitol


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