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hello again, everyone, thank you so much for joining me this saturday. i'm fredericka whitfield. we're following new developments in the capitol riot investigation. the u.s. secret service is for you vowing to respond swiftly to a subpoena from the january 6th committee. the house committee probing the insurrection issued that subpoena to the secret service on friday for text messages sent on january 5th and 6th of 2021. this comes after the homeland security inspector general accused the secret service of erasing those texts after his office requested them. the secret service denies deleting any texts maliciously. cnn's katelyn polantz joins us now. katelyn, where do things stand right now? >> reporter: fred, this is a fast-moving story. we didn't even know this was an issue, with the secret service losing text messages from
january 5th and 6th, until 72 hours ago, when the inspector general over that agency announced in a letter to capitol hill that they had learned the texts were missing, that there was a data migration in process at dhs at the secret service to caused the erasure of some text messages from secret service phones. the inspector general announced that to capitol hill. the january 6th committee received a briefing from that watchdog agent on friday. all nine members sat for several hours, trying to figure out what happened here with the secret service, what was going on in this other investigation. and the committee members emerged from that briefing quite concerned. here is representative zoe lofgren yesterday after that briefing. >> i will say that the explanation that you have to
factory reset and eliminate your data without backing up your data just seems -- i'm skeptical. i mean, i wouldn't do that. the argument about when the request was made is largely irrelevant. the secret service was aware that this was one of the signature events of our country and that there would be a need to preserve all of the evidence because of that, and also there's an obligation for federal agencies to retain records. >> reporter: so the secret service has been saying they weren't deleting these maliciously, that even the things that the dhs inspector general was seeking, those weren't the text messages that were deleted. but zoe leaf lofgren is underlying that it is the responsibility of a federal agency to retain records.
that's the basis for the subpoena that the january 6th committee issued last night, for the text messages as well as any afteraction reports that can explain what happened at the secret service. the secret service is important in the house select committee investigation. what secret service agents saw, what they wintnessed, what they said around january 6th, that is an important part of their investigation especially after some of the recent testimony we've seen like from white house aide cassidy hutchinson in recent weeks, fred. >> katelyn polantz, thanks so much. let's talk more about this now with former secret service agent christopher mcclinock. good to see you, christopher. if the text messages were deleted as part of a data
migration, is it possible that it would delete or get rid of records? >> first off, thank you for having me, fredericka. yes, it is plausible. if for no other reason, the fact that during that time period there was in fact an equipment rollout. i know this because i was a senior special agent at that time. i hadn't retired at that moment yet. and i was witness to a bunch of different electronic equipment being rolled out from radios to phones to computers. so it does coincide at least factually with their argument that the texts were unfortunately deleted due to said rollout. so it's possible. >> so while the migration is customary, that's not what's so unusual. that there would not be some sort of preservation of data, knowing that the migration was going to happen, i guess i'm asking you if you can respond to how important is recordkeeping for the secret service.
>> very. having been there for 23 years, it was unfortunately almost all but commonplace to receive emails and text messages asking agents to retain information for various reasons. freedom of information act issues and the like. >> so then for something, an occasion so historic, so pivotal, so incredibly important, january 6th, it would seem all the more reason, would it not, that any kind of correspondence on the day preceding, the day of, and the after recordkeeping as well, that all of that would be retained, that that would be so paramount, the secret service knowing there are at some point going to be questions, we better have our stuff to deliver, because this was a horrible day for america. >> absolutely. and you're 100% correct.
unfortunately, hindsight often is 20/20. and the fact is that after the event we can look back and say why didn't you do a better job of preserving this information, why didn't you do a better job of maintaining it, knowing full and well that it would be necessary in the future? but i don't know if that's so much the question is whether or not the information, if deleted, was done intentionally. >> is it suspicious? is it kind of strange? >> strange, yes. susp suspicious? i'll go out on a limb and say no. i will defend until it's indefensible. i don't believe that such actions were taken maliciously, at least not at this point, because their argument with regards to there being a
migration just happens to coincide with the fact that the information may have been deleted. they didn't come up with that argument out of the blue. it just happened to be an explanation that was given immediately. and i'm going to stick with that for now. i have a hard time believing that the agency as a whole would do such a conspiracy, to delete information. and i have a hard time believing that agents who have the highest work ethic around and who understand what the repercussions of violating an order to maintain those records intentionally would lead to. let's not forget, these are investigators of federal crimes. they know what could happen in the event that they are found guilty of deleting information that they should have held onto. so i have a hard time believing that they would do it intentionally. >> okay. so then, now there is this
subpoena. do you believe the subpoena will help bring answers to what the texts perhaps may or may not have included that are now gone? do you think a subpoena is going to help fill the blanks? >> absolutely. along the same lines of why i believe there's no coverup, that the service nor individual agents have intentionally deleted this information because they're going to adhere to the constitution, i believe they will do the exact same thing with regards to said subpoena. they will provide any and all information that they have and do so expeditiously. >> so can i ask you, just to go back and reflect, that testimony from cassidy hutchinson where she described what she had learned about this conflict in the beast, in the president's vehicle involving secret service and allegations that the
president was actually reaching for, allegedly assaulting one of the secret service agents, so now dc metropolitan police member has corroborated her story even after the secret service said, no, we don't know anything about that incident happening. what was your reaction, who and what do you believe? >> well, i have the utmost respect for the washington, dc police. i have personal friends on the dc police department. and i believe that what they've said, they believe it, in their minds it's accurate. and you mentioned ms. hutchinson, as a prosecutor and as a former federal prosecutor, i can tell you, ms. hutchinson was a powerful witness. she was, for lack of better expression, the perfect witness, someone who was in the know, someone who had access to that
information she had knowledge of. ultimately, when you're an investigator, when you're a prosecutor, you want not just good witnesses as both the dc police officer and ms. hutchinson are. you want the best witnesses. unfortunately the best witnesses were the people who were in that vehicle. in this case the secret service agents. and i have to tell you, whatever it is that the secret service agents are testifying to and saying took place, i have to believe in that. at the end of the day, for the same reasons i spoke on with reference to the deleted text messages, i feel the exact same way, whatever these agents say took place. >> your allegiance is very clear. christopher mcclinock, thank you very much. i look forward to seeing you next time.
>> thank you very much, a pleasure to be here. president biden is on his way back to washington after spending his day in the middle east, meeting with leaders and pledging $1 billion in food aide to the region. the president faced criticism with this moment, the meeting with saudi crown prince mohammed bin salman, believed to be behind the murder of "washington post" journalist jamal khashoggi. president biden addressed it earlier. >> with respect to the murder of khashoggi, i raised it at the meeting, what i thought of it at the time and what i think of it now. i was straightforward and direct in discussing it. i made my view crystal clear. i said very straightforwardly, for an american president to be silent on an issue of human rights, is this inconsistent with who we are and who i am. i'll always stand up for our values. >> cnn's phil mattingly is in
jeddah for the president's trip. so phil, did president biden accomplish what he set out to do on this trip? >> reporter: fredericka, if the question going into the trip was, is it worth it to take the short term blast of criticism to reverse the position with respect to saudi arabia and on the crown prince, going from calling him a pariah to giving him a fist bump and walked with him throughout multiple events, today was a great example of why the president and his advisers thought the answer was yes. the president detailing a thought-out, developed middle east policy through five different points of framework, new strategic framework that the white house says will reengage the united states in the region not just for now but for the future. and i think when you talk to administration officials, they have made clear the future is what the last 48 hours were supposed to be about. they understood they were going to get criticism for the president's meeting with the crown prince in the wake of the intelligence community's finding
that he ordered the murder of jamal khashoggi. but they calculated that the long term risks to a fractured relationship certainly weren't worth taking anymore. i think when you look at the region, very fluid, very dynamic region that has changed very dramatically just over the course of the last four or five years, if the u.s. wants a significant role in the middle east, white house officials believed, they obviously had to rekindle their relationship with one of its most important players, that is saudi arabia. the president detailing that strategy today. it's a message that many leaders here, many officials here from the region made clear they wanted to hear. they had been concerned for the better part of the last 18 months about an administration that appeared to be moving away from the middle east. but they also acknowledged more will need to be done, they will need to see tangible efforts beyond just words. no question the administration feels like they've taken an important step here. as that step worth it? they think yes. obviously some of the critics think very much no. >> all right, phil mattingly,
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indianapolis who assisted her by terminating her pregnancy is now the subject of an investigation by the attorney general in the state of indiana, todd rokita. what we're hearing from dr. bernard is if you simply look at the records that are filed with the state's department of health, you can clearly see she actually did report that procedure only two days after it was carried out. we actually pulled those records ourselves and it does show that dr. bernard did report that procedure on july the 2nd, basically complying with the state's requirement. we did reach back out to the attorney general, who says that they are still collecting evidence right now, they are still continuing with their legal review of the evidence. at the same time, when you hear from the attorney that's representing dr. bernard, they basically maintain there should be nothing left to review, especially if you pull those records. it is why they have filed just yesterday a cease and desist letter, sent it to the attorney general, asking for the ag to,
quote, stop making false and what they described as misleading statements as well. that attorney, in a conversation with our erin burnett last night, this is a bit of what she had to say. >> we want mr. rokita to stop lying about dr. bernard and stop smearing her reputation and making ridiculously unsupported accusations, when even the barest minimum of homework on his part would have found that that report had been timely done. we're going to do the opposite what have attorney general rokita did. we're actually going to take our time and gather the facts and research the law and put together our case thoughtfully and deliberately. >> reporter: in light of the cease and desist letter, we have reached back out to the attorney general, who announced his probe on fox news just a few days ago. we're still waiting to hear back, fred. >> let us know, polo sandoval, thanks so much. let's talk more about this, joining me is cnn legal analyst
areva martin, always good to see you. this is a heartbreaking case. just from a legal standpoint as well, does the indiana attorney general have any legal grounds to be investigating the doctor behind this child's abortion when the doctor's attorney, we just heard her say all the proper records were filed in the proper time frame? >> good morning, fred. it doesn't appear that the attorney general has any legitimate reason to be conducting an investigation. not only is the doctor's attorney confirming that the proper reporting has been done, it's been verified by independent media sources in indiana as well. and as the lawyer said, a simple public records search by the attorney general would have revealed that the proper reporting was done by dr. bernard in the time frame that is required by the law in indiana. it seems like this is just a smear campaign, as the lawyer said, on the part of the
attorney general, and an effort to vilify this doctor that performed a legal abortion for this 10-year-old. >> and this case is, you know, shining a spotlight on a lot of stuff, but particularly the real consequences of the supreme court's decision to overturn roe v. wade. as a legal matter, could ohio, the state where the little girl was originally from, pursue its own case against the girl, her doctor, and the people who helped get the 10-year-old to indiana? >> well, we know, fred, that many states, republican states in particular, have indicated, their attorney generals, their state legislatures have said they want to criminalize doctors, they want to criminalize patients, they want to criminalize those involved in helping women travel from states where abortions are banned to those states where abortions are legal. but we know the president signed an executive order giving the department of justice more power
to push back on those states that are trying to restrict and constrain travel. when you think about this, fred, it's really ironic that this effort is only being made with respect to controlling women's reproductive rights. when states legalized marijuana use, we didn't see attorney generals going after individuals who traveled from one state where marijuana wasn't legal but who traveled to another state where marijuana was legal. so this effort to somehow criminalize travel i think is not going to be effective and i hope the department of justice uses all of its power to make sure that individuals including women seeking abortions in states where it's legal are not confined or threatened with criminal prosecution. >> yeah, i mean, what are your thoughts on -- i mean, the trauma that this little 10-year-old girl and her family have already, a, gone through as
a result of rape, and then what it meant and what it took to cross state lines to, you know, have this abortion, and then now be the centerpiece of this kind of discussion and dispute, and at the center is a 10-year-old girl? what are your thoughts on just digesting all of the trappings here? >> yeah, it's really, really heartbreaking and disheartening to me, fred. as you know, i have two daughters myself, i remember what it's like to have a 10-year-old girl in your home. let's not forget that the rapist that came forward to confess that he raped this little girl confessed not to raping her once but to raping her twice. and to have these republican lawmakers and attorney generals make the focus of this horrific case the doctor that performed the legal abortion, the family members and this little girl,
rather than on this rapist, and rather than, you know, looking at these laws that would have forced a 10-year-old girl to carry a child, it's really unthinkable to me. i have to share this with you, fred. i had an ectopic pregnancy myself. and i think about, if i lived in a state now where there are no exceptions for abortions, i would have been, like so many women, forced to carry to term or carry a pregnancy that could have caused me my life. so we're talking about women being able to survive. and we know black women have the highest maternal mortality rates in this country. so this case i just think highlights how dangerous it is going to be for women who live in states where you are going to be forced to carry a baby even if it means you die in the process. >> yeah, it's so disturbing on so many levels.
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us in los angeles. c camila, what's the latest on this covid surge returning? >> reporter: hey, fred. officials in l.a. county say they've seen an 88% increase in hospitalizations from a month ago. they say for every 100,000 people, they're seeing about 10.5 hospitalizations. so if the numbers stay as they are or if they increase, what will happen is that in two weeks, everyone in l.a. county will have to wear a mask when they are indoors. now, it is possible that these numbers go down. but even officials here are saying it's very unlikely. l.a. is hosting the mlb all-star game this week. there are so many events, so many people flying from all over the country just to be here. and so you are having more and more people gathering and celebrating together. i talked to some of the residents here in l.a. county and here is what they told me.
>> we are not worried about covid but unfortunately covid finds us. we just went to the wedding and half of the people got covid after the wedding. i feel like we don't want covid but it keeps appearing. >> i have a daughter who's pregnant and my other daughter-in-law had a baby. i wear a mask in any indoor place. and i hear mask mandates may be coming back here and i'm happy for that. >> i think that within like really tight quarters, a mask is important. if you're out like this, i think it's okay. but i personally have had covid and it's real. and it's not something that i take lightly. >> reporter: and the increases that we're seeing here in l.a. also mirror what's happening all over the country. the cdc for the first time in weeks also saying that they're forecasting an increase in hospitalizations instead of those steady numbers. so really, it's all over the
country. the ba.5 variant is spreading quickly. and that's what has officials here in l.a. and really all over the country concerned, fred. >> and camila, covid has caused a major mental health crisis as well. the suicide prevention hotline just launched a new code 988 today. what do we know so far about the correlations? >> reporter: look, the idea is to have resources where people can call and get the help they need whenever they need it. the idea is to have those mental health resources, have counselors, have people who can help, covid and the pandemic overall has been very difficult. but in general, mental health is something that a lot of people around the country want to see action and preventive action. so this is something that of course is available and is rolling out today. but of course we'll have to wait to see how this works out and
whether they can handle the call volume in the coming days. fred? >> camila bernal, thank you so much. joining me right now is los angeles county public health director barbara ferrer. barbara, always good to see you. first off, you're not inside, this time you're outside, and you're standing in front of a vaccination site. have you seen an uptick in people coming for their covid vaccines or boosters because of this latest surge? >> yeah, we're really -- and good day. we're really glad to be here with everyone. and yes, we are seeing more people coming in to get vaccinated. this is a full service site, so people can actually come here to get vaccinated for covid. they can come here to get those boosters. we vaccinate everybody six months and older here. we also provide rapid testing here. people can also pick up test kits to take home. because we, like everyone else, are worried with the big
increases. you know, we're averaging almost 9,000 new cases a day here. hospitalizations way up, over 1,200 hospitalizations every day. and as you noted, our admissions, our new admissions are also way up. it's very concerning, because there are a lot of people who are vulnerable. and we all know with ba.5, you're more likely to get infected, even if you've been vaccinated, even if you've had a previous infection with covid. so we've got to layer in the protections that we know can help us really slow down the spread again. >> now, you're outside, you're wearing a mask, but we are also talking about how l.a. county might be bringing back mask wearing for indoors. talk to me about, you know, your approach and what you think is likely imminent in terms of how people have to protect
themselves and others. >> it's such a good question about protection, particularly about protecting others, protecting those that are actually most vulnerable. masks work. they protect the person who is wearing them from inhaling a lot of virus particles. and they protect us from exhaling virus should we be symptomatic and not know it. so masks are a good layer of protection, not perfect, but obviously when we have very high rates of transmission like we do now, it's a sensible step and an easy step to take to keep ourselves safe, and just as important, to keep the community safe with these very high rates, unless we start seeing a slowdown in spread, a slowdown in what's happening in our hospitals, in two weeks we'll do a universe indoor masking here. and again, that will be aligned fully with cdc. >> so you do see -- it sounded like you have certainty, you do
see that happening in two weeks. >> well, our numbers are really high. it would take a lot in the next two weeks, because -- to slow down hospitalizations. just because hospitalizations lag behind case increases, we start seeing steep case increases, a couple of weeks later you are know that's going to be followed by some increases in hospitalizations. so i am fearful that because we continue to see those increases in cases, in two weeks our hospital numbers will not have come down. >> let me also ask you about monkeypox. with nearly 1,500 cases in 42 states and the biden administration announced a plan to deliver 700,000 vaccines to the national stockpile, what are your concerns about the spread of monkeypox and what are you seeing specifically in l.a. county? >> you know, again, monkeypox is
an infectious disease. it can spread with very close contact with someone who is infected or close contact with their belongings, you know, their towels, their sheets, and other places it has spread from animals to people. we have about a hundred cases here in l.a. county and are aggressively moving to make sure that with a limited supply of vaccine, it gets out to those who are at highest risk. so we're building out a network of providers. at this point i think we have 40 providers that are contacting their patients who may be at higher risk. this site that we're at today is actually one of the sites where folks who are at higher risk can come and get a monkeypox vaccine as well. again, i think the message is, limited supply of vaccine, everybody needs to be careful. know what the signs and symptoms are of monkeypox. contact your provider if you have those signs or symptoms. then if you do have signs or
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it was another miserable week for air travel. hundreds of daily cancellations and thousands of delays making flying seem nearly impossible for so many people this summer. cnn's pete muntean has more. >> reporter: the summer of travel pain keeps growing with struggling airlines canceling 30,000 flights since memorial day. now new data shows where issues are the worst. a flightaware analysis for cnn
shows new york airports leading the nation for flight cancellations. 8% of all flights leaving newark have been cancelled since memorial day. >> the pain is not spread out evenly. some airports have much bigger problems than others. >> reporter: florida airports take three of the top ten spots for flight delays. a third of all flights from orlando have been delayed this summer. this new breakdown comes as passengers are packing planes at levels not seen since before the pandemic. but short-staffed airlines say the federal government is also short-staffed at air traffic control facilities. >> new york, newark, and florida really are air traffic control challenges. there's different issues at some other airlines. those two places are really struggling. >> reporter: the faa puts blame back on airline staffing issues as well as bad weather and heavy air traffic. >> we may have to slow the stuff coming out of florida. >> reporter: and its round the clock command center in virginia. the faa showed us how they can
become clogged with flights like a traffic jam on a highway. >> especially in the summertime, if you want to get there on time, try to get there before lunch. >> reporter: airlines argued $50 billion in pandemic aid would make them ready for this rebound. >> the airline industry is broken right now. and it's failing every taxpayer. >> reporter: transportation secretary pete buttigieg tells cnn he is seeing improvements but still expects airlines to do better. >> look, we are counting on airlines to deliver for passengers and to be able to service the tickets that they sell. >> reporter: this problem is a global one because newark is also a big international hub. united airlines says it's scaling back its summer schedule here because there are too many flights for the airport to handle. the top destinations with the not cancellations in the united states since memorial day, newark is number one, la guardia number two, reagan national airport in dc is number three,
followed by raleigh, north carolina and cleveland, ohio. >> pete muntean, thank you so much. on this week's episode of "united shades of america," kamau bell travels to the heart of the central appalachian hills to learn about the culture of this largely unknown population of black americans. >> this is what happens when the company abandons the town. >> back in the day, right, that if you had five kids, when you graduate, you get a bus ticket because they could see the change, the economic change coming. >> the young people when they get out of high school, they get out of here and don't come back. >> what would you say to young black girls now? >> do we have any? i don't know of any. that's sad. >> don't miss the all new
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hello, everyone. you're live in the cnn "newsroom" i'm ryan nobles in washington, jim acosta has the day off. right now president biden on his way back to the united states following his first trip to the middle east since entering the white house. while the president offered his vision for the future of u.s./middle east relations as he met with leaders from across the region. it was this moment, the fist bump with the saudi crown prince, mohammed bin salman that is proving to be one of the lasting images of the visit. the gestur