tv CNN Newsroom With Ana Cabrera CNN July 21, 2022 10:00am-11:00am PDT
hello and thanks for being here. i'm ana cabrera in new york. we begin this hour with breaking news from the white house, where president joe biden is in isolation after he tested positive for covid. president biden's symptoms are said to be mild. he tweeted a short time ago that he is doing great. he is taking an anti-viral medication to reduce the risk of severe illness. we also can tell you that a news conference is scheduled an hour from now. and cnn's jeremy diamond is
joining us at the white house. we have dr. sanjay gupta joining us to break it down for us. what more do you know about the president's condition? >> president biden tested positive for coronavirus this morning. we're told that the president went to bed last night, largely feeling fine, but he woke up this morning having not slept very well, tested, according to the white house's routine screening procedures, that's according to the white house doctor, dr. kevin o'connor, who says that the president is now experiencing mild symptoms, which include a runny nose, fatigue, and an occasional dry cough. the president's physician recommended that he begin a course of paxlovid, that antiviral that is considered the gold standard of care for coronavirus, particularly early on in the onset of the disease. and, we're told by the white house that the president has, indeed, begun that course of paxlovid. now, i also spoke separately with dr. ashish jha, the white house's coronavirus coordinator,
who told me that the president as of this morning did not have a fever. the president taking to twitter just a little bit ago, to say that he is doing great. and you can also see on your screen there, a picture of the president working this morning, apparently, from the residence. this is the treaty room inside the white house residence, where he said he spoke with several of those pennsylvania lawmakers, who he was supposed to meet with today. and you see him there wearing a blazer. the president saying that he's doing great and, quote, keeping busy. of course, the president, as you mentioned, ana, is double boosted, receiving his last booster on march 30th. >> and we do know he has been traveling quite a bit, abroad, and domestically. was in massachusetts just yesterday. has had close contacts, meetings with a lot of different people. we've often seen him without a mask. how has the white house been approaching, broadly, this stage of the pandemic in trying to manage the president's exposure? >> look, the white house has had pretty rigorous protocols, particularly as it relates to the president and his exposure to coronavirus. aides wear mask when they are meeting with him indoors.
they are tested every single day, before they are about to meet with him. but at the same time, we've seen the president increasingly getting out there and engaging with the public, engaging with lawmakers, shaking hands, participating in photo lines. a recognition that the president could not forever stay in some kind of a bubble. and we've seen his exposure, obviously, increase. last week, when the president was in israeli and saudi arabia, we heard officials saying that he was going to try to perhaps limit some of his contact. some fist bumps instead of hand shakes taking place there. but by and large, we've seen the president increasingly out there. and look, the white house knew that it was possible that the president could test positive, but they're hopeful, of course, that he'll continue to have a mild case given that he's double boosted and now on this course of paxlovid. >> and now that he has tested positive, what are the specific protocols at the white house right now to try tlo lower the risk of spread. >> we know that the white house medical unit is conducting contact tracing.
several people with the unit are getting tested now to see if they've contracted the disease result. we also know that white house residence staff, that staffing is being kept to a minimum to limit potential exposure. obviously, you saw the president working there this morning. somebody had to take a picture of him, but presumably, everybody is wearing n-95s and protective material, when they are anywhere close to the president. but staffing certainly being kept at a minimum to try to reduce the further risk of any additional spread. >> okay, jeremy diamond at the white house for us, thank you. again, we're expecting that press conference with ashish jha, the white house covid response coordinator, coming up at the top of the hour. for now, let's bring in our cnn chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta. sa sanjay, very mild symptoms, we're told, double vaxed, he's boosted, but we know his age does put him at higher risk. what are your biggest concerns right now? >> i think the age is the biggest concern, overall. because we've known, you know, since the earliest days of the
pandemic that people who were older are going to be most at risk. and even among the vaccinated, the vaccines are really, really good at preventing people from getting sick or dying. but still, people who are at the highest risk within the vaccinated population are still the oldest, as well. i think what's interesting, when we talk about the protection that he has, to qualify that in some way. how much more is he protect given that he's vaccinated and boost ed versus if he wasn't. if you look at now, in may of 2022, and compare that basically to a year ago, you're 29 times less likely for people who have received the vaccines to not die versus people who are unvaccinated. so that just gives you an idea of a little bit how protected he is. not saying that it's absolutely, for sure, which is why therapeutics like paxlovid sort of come in to still try and add even more defenses against severe illness. >> i want to ask you about paxlovid specifically in a second. but coming back to, he's 79
years old. we're told he works out five or six days a week. based on what we know of his overall health, any thoughts on how that could impact his covid battle? >> you know, again, when you talk about covid, it's interesting, this is just two and a half years worth of data, but age was one of the biggest risk factors. it's his age more than anything else that is the biggest thing. the other thing, he does have a history of high cholesterol. he's taking a medication for that, a statin medication. when you do paxlovid, you have to stop that medication during that time. not usually a big deal, but that gives you an idea of the things they have to think about. so those are the biggest thing, his age, his history of taking the statin medication, and how it's going to potentially interact is where a lot of attention is focused. obviously, monitoring him closely, checking his blood oxygen saturations, things like that on a regular basis to make sure he's not developing symptoms before he might be aware of them. >> paxlovid is something that's available to not just the
president, but to the general population, as well, to treat covid. explain how effective it is. what more do we know about it? >> it's interesting, ana, with the original trials on paxlovid, a lot of people don't remember this, but it was actually primarily done in the unvaccinated people. people who had not received a vaccine. what they found in those initial trials is that it was really effective, close to 90% effective at keeping people from developing severe illness. and they subsequently now, they have a lot of people who have been vaccinated taking it as well, and they find it's really quite effective of that particular issue, keeping people from needing hospitalization, and developing severe illness. it does seem to have a certain percentage of people who develop a rebound, meaning that they feel better, they're now testing negative, they test negative a couple of days. now all of a sudden, they test positive again, and they're starting to get sick again. that's the rebound. and, you know, it's still not clear exactly how common it is, but some studies say maybe 6%. dr. anthony fauci, ana, you may remember, had that happen to
him. so he tested negative for a few days, and tested positive again, and he actually said he felt worse the second time around. that's another thing they have to keep an eye on with the president. >> it's safe to assume that this is the very beginning of his illness, because yesterday is when he started to feel those symptoms. he had tested negative on tuesday, we are told. and he started with a little bit of a dry cough last night. now we're told he has that occasional dry cough, some fatigue, a runny nose, no fever, at least not this morning. what do you expect tomorrow, maybe the next day, for the president? how might this play out? >> i think what i would expect, given everything we've seen in these similar situation that is he would be the same for a few days, this level of symptoms, no worse, but probably just sort of plateau here for a few days, and eventually -- still, he's getting tested on a daily basis, still testing positive. but at some point, i think his symptoms will start to diminish, and within a day or two after that, he's likely to test negative.
which is what the white house says they are looking to as for the metric to when they can take him out of isolation and he can see people again out of isolation. this paxlovid rebound thing is really important, because he's going to need to be tested very regularly after he comes off the paxlovid to make sure within a few days after that, he doesn't have a rebound. chances are he won't, just statistically, but that is a concern. >> as far as we know, this is the first time he's ever gotten covid. given the current covid surge and his job as president, that puts him in situations where he might be exposed and is at risk. do you think, in some ways, this was just unavoidable? he was going to catch it eventually? >> you know, i know a lot of supreme sort of conceded this. that, look, it's just, everyone's going to get it eventually. i'm not sure i see it that way. flu is a very transmissible thing. not everyone gets this. coronavirus, i think that in many ways we've sort of stopped doing just about anything to prevent people from getting
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that's how quickly the immunity from, in that case, infection actually wears off. that's something they have to pay attention to. which is why people are recommend getting boosters to get your antibody levels high enough so you can actually take care of all of these different variants. >> perhaps it may not prevent you from getting infected, but should be highly effective about keeping you out of the hospital or getting severe illness, as i understand it. and we don't know exactly what variant the president may have, but we know that ba.5 is now making up about 80% of infections, of new infections here in the u.s. dr. sanjay gupta, as always, thank you for offering your expertise and insight here. we're just hours away now from the next congressional hearing into the january 6th attack. this one is in prime-time. and this one zeros in on what then president donald trump did while the capitol was under assault. and what he didn't do. and later, finding ten republican votes to protect same-sex and interracial
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tonight in prime-time, the eighth january 6th hearing. what the panel is hearing the last of this easier. the focus, what donald trump was doing for 187 minutes as his supporters attacked the u.s. capitol. the committee promises to show trump's dereliction of duty. what he did and did not do. plus, never-before-seen outtakes of a message trump recorded the day after the riot. we'll see what more he wanted to say and what he was not willing to say.
cnn's ryan nobles is on capitol hill for us. set the stage. what more are we hearing? >> we've all known for quite some time that the committee believed that donald trump's inaction on january 6th was a serious problem and a big part of what they wanted to uncover. and tonight they're going to lay out the facts and the evidence they have to support that claim. and we've already seen a preview of just how they plan to do that. listen and look at what adam kinzinger shared on his twitter feed earlier today. >> to the best of my recollection, he was always in the dining room. >> what did he say, mr. meadows and the president, at all, during that brief encounter that you were in the dining room? >> i think everyone was watching the tv. >> it's my understanding that he was watching television. >> when you were in the dining room in these discussions, was the violence at the capitol, physically, on the screen, on the television? >> yes, right. >> reporter: so if he was watching television, that means that he wasn't consulting with members of the pentagon or the
department of defense to rye to find a way to get additional security support up to the capitol. it also means that he wasn't talking to his fellow lawmakers on capitol hill, to try to help them through what was a very important crisis at the time. it also means, and perhaps most importantly, that he wasn't working on a way to get a message to his supporters to leave the capitol at that period of time. so that's all what the committee hopes to show here tonight. they keep using the phrase, dereliction of duty, over and over again. that's not a term that they are using lightly. it's important to keep in mind that two people leading this hearing, adam kinzinger and elaine luria, they are both military veterans. when you talk about duty, this is something that's very important to the core of who they are. >> ryan nobles, thank you very much, from capitol hill. let's take a minute-my-minute look now back at the insurrection. here's cnn's pamela brown. >> reporter: one and a half years later, the minute-by-minute horrors of the january 6th insurrection are becoming even clearer, as the
house select committee continues its public hearings, it is uncovering new details of that fateful day. including a heated phone call that morning, with then president trump, pressuring vice president pence to prevent the certifications of the election. >> i remember hearing the word "wimp," he called him a wimp. i don't remember if he said, you are a wimp, you'll be a wimp. >> it was a different tone than i'd heard him take with the vice president before. >> do you remember what she said her father called him? >> the p-word. >> reporter: earlier that morning, the white house would learn that people arriving at trump's rally were armed. >> they had glock-style pistols many their waistband. >> reporter: chief of staff mark meadows' aide, cassidy hutchinson testified that white house deputy chief of staff tony a arnato briefed the president about the weapons. the rally goes on as trial, with
trump's associates igniting the crowd. >> let's have trial my combat. >> reporter: trump watches backstage and demands that metal detectors be removed to allow more of his supporters to attend. >> i overheard the president say something to the effect of, i don't f'ing care that he have weapons, they're not here to hurt me, take the f'ing mags away. let my people in. they can march to the capitol from here. >> reporter: at noon, trump takes the stage. >> we're going to walk down to the capitol. you'll never take back our country with weakness. you have to show strength. >> reporter: while he speaks, pro-trump rioters, including members of the far-right group, the proud boys, overrun the first set of barriers outside the capitol. >> this is incredible. thank you very much. >> reporter: at 1:10, trump's speech concludes and house minority leader kevin mccarthy warns hutchinson that trump should not come to the capitol. >> he just said it on stage, cassidy, figure it out, don't come up here. >> reporter: nine minutes later,
trump arrives back at the white house, reportedly enraged the secret service refused to take him to the capitol. >> the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. mr. engle grabbed his arm, said, sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. we're going back to the west wing. we're not going to the capitol. mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle, and when mr. ornato had recounted the story towards me, he had motioned towards his clavicles. >> reporter: by 2:00, the capitol goes into lockdown. the senate abruptly adjourns soon after. [ chanting: hang mike pence ] zb >> reporter: back at the white house, white house counsel mark cipollone told trump that trump should intervene. >> mark, something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood is going to be on
your f'ing hands. >> reporter: minutes later, trump tweet, slamming pence for not assisting him in his scheme to overturn the election. >> the situation was already bad. and so, it felt like he was pouring gasoline on the fire by tweeting that. >> we need an area for the housing members. they're all walking over now, through the tunnels. >> reporter: at 2:30, u.s. capitol police start evacuating lawmakers and the secret service removes pence from the senate floor. and shortly after, trump sends another tweet for everyone to remain peaceful, but does not tell the rioters to leave the capitol. seconds later, the first capitol windows are smashed by dominick pizola, an alleged proud boy who has pleaded not guilty to seditious conspiracy. rioters flood into the capitol and are scaling the skaflgd outside. then, another far-right group, the oathkeepers, are seen weaving through the crowd in a military-style formation, and entering the capitol building. inside the capitol, the violence is escalating.
pro-trump rioters ashli babbitt is fatally shot by an officer after she attempts to climb through a window of a barricaded door. about a minute later, rioters breach the senate floor and break into speaker nancy pelosi's office. for more than an hour, many close allies and associates try to persuade trump to intervene, by sending text messages to meadows. white house aides even draft a statement that was never sent. at 4:15, then president-elect biden speaks. >> this is not dissent. it's disorder. it's chaos. it borders on sedition. and it must end. now. >> reporter: minutes later, trump tweeted out a video message for his supporters to go home and repeating the lie that the election was stolen. >> let's get back to work. >> reporter: around 8:00 p.m., the capitol police announce the capitol is secure and the senate and the house reconvene to finish certifying the election.
pamela brown, cnn, washington. >> joining us now, our legal analyst, eli honig, pam just laid out right there what we all saw go down. and she reminded us of what we've learned so far through these hearings. but we still don't know a lot about what was happening behind closed doors. how important is it for the committee to fill in those gaps? >> it's crucial. it's the most important single piece of evidence that wii going to have in this entire proceeding. the key phrase that we have heard and will continue to hear all day and all night is dereliction of duty. to me, that suggests a person doing nothing. and it may be, we know that donald trump didn't do anything, because he had done something, we would have seen it. but one of the big questions i have going in, is there going to be some affirmative prove that donald trump took a step designed to encourage these people? what i'm looking at is that 2:24 tweet, that pam just referenced, where donald trump tweets negatively about mike pence. my question is, was there something leading up to that? did somebody say something to
him? i want to see if it was anything more than just do nothing. >> do you still see that tweet as most significant, too? >> yes. because the idea of dereliction of duty, ana. and that trump failed to act, it doesn't capture the whole story. he affirmatively acted. we just saw cassidy hutchinson says, around 2:00, she learned that trump actually agreed with the rioters. that trump had violent intent, and then, he knows these terrible things are happening. his vice president is in danger, the congress, his own government, and then he tweets an attack on pence, which we also know was read through a bull horn to the rioters, further enflaming them. i will take friendly exception to cousin ellie on one point. it is an important piece of evidence what happened in the 187 minutes, but the most important, if you go back to the beginning of these hearings, the committee has very steadily
established two criminal cases, i think. one for obstruction of congress, one for defrauding the united states. criminal cases that were found likely by a federal judge, this is just the last missing piece of that. more evidence of trump's intent. but the cases have, i think, already been well founded. >> let me build on that. i don't think we disagree, really, much. the significance -- we're going to hear a lot of testimony about how was donald trump reacting this? pleased, displeased, gleeful? upset? and what we've seen so far makes clear that donald trump was quite pleased, delighted by what he saw. if you're trying to build the kind of case that norm talked about, conspiracy to steal the election or conspiracy to obstruct congress, that is crucial evidence of donald trump's intent. because a prosecutor, you said to maybe a jury some day, you say, how did donald trump react? he was delighted. that shows that what they were doing was exactly what they wanted and had hoped and
intended. >> ryan shared with us that clip, that preview clip that adam kinzinger had tweeted out in which we heard over and over again that these witnesses say that trump was in the dining room, just watching tv. my question to you is, is doing nothing a crime? is there criminality in inaction, in that case? >> in some states, dereliction of duty or failure to perform your dewuty is a state crime if you're an official and you fail to perform. it's not a federal crime, but it doesn't have to be. as ellie notes, this is evidence, this is more proof of crimes that have already been established. the conspiracy, trump knew he didn't win this election, he knew he department have any legal right, he still attacked the election, he joined team crazy after the electoral college met in that white house meeting. they've proven all of that. what we need now is the intent. and we're also going to see these outtakes that are going to teach us more about what was going on in trump's mind. >> yeah, i think those outtakes are going to be fascinating. >> actually, hold your thought.
i want to ask you about the outtakes, but let's hear from adam schiff, who's on the committee, who kind of gave us a scene setter for these outtakes last night. listen. >> there are people urge him to say things, to try to get the rioters, the attackers to go home. there are things that, he can't be prevailed upon to do and say, for hours and hours, and ultimately, when he does give a statement, still things he wouldn't say. >> he seems to highlight what he wouldn't say, that we'll now learn about. is that significant? >>e it is. he was so reluctant to condemn the people that had gone into the capitol. that's what adam schiff is suggesting. that will tell us again, he was pleased with what he did. it's january 7th. these out takes are from the video the next day. and most people, i think, who watched what happened would be disgusted and horrified and if
donald trump is unable to come out and say that, and he keeps trying to sort of edge things towards the rioters' favor, again, that goes to intent. he was pleased, because it's what he wanted, you would argue. >> i do want to also ask about one of the witnesses we're going to hear from tomorrow, who has been somewhat of a mystery for most of us. we haven't heard from him really yet, maybe a quit click or something. but it was matthew pottinger, a national security counsel adviser. he resigned immediately following the riot. he pointed to the pence tweet during the riot as the pivotal moment in his mind when he said, i need to resign. i wonder, why him. why is he saved for this hearing. my understanding is he wasn't in direct contact, necessarily, with trump on that day. >> having worked in the white house, ana, it's a very tiny environment. everybody is a ware of what's going on. it's like there's a vibe that goes through the hallways. who knows what pottinger saw or
did. but we know this much. the committee is staffed, both on the members and the professional staff by very able trial lawyers. they haven't let us down yet. they're delivering pottinger tonight, he must have the goods. >> he had some access, you're right, ana, i don't believe he was in direct contact with donald trump. but he was in contact with mark meadows, the deputy centuries adviser. he would have had access to incoming intel about what was the white house being warned about, what was going on down there. and the other thing is, he doesn't seem to have problematic loyalties. he seems like he's willing, based on the deposition clips we've seen and the other reporting, willing to come clean and just say what he saw. that's what you want in a witness. >> the term "loyalty, is also very important. because one of the themes tonight, it's going to be conducted by kinzinger and luria, both former service members. they swore an oath. pottinger felt so strongly about
this, that he resigned half that tweet, affirmative action with murderous attempt by trump. contrast pottinger's reaction, his sense of duty, his loyalty to oath and country to resign. >> he's a military veteran as well. >> with the president attacking his own vice president. >> merrick garland, i assume will be watching, as well as other members of the justice department. they've been facing more pressure to take action and have been facing more questions as well, about whether they would indict a former president or a candidate running for president, should trump decide to run in 2024. listen to merrick garland just yesterday. >> look, no person is above the law in this country. nothing stops us -- >> even a former president? >> i don't know how to -- i'll say that again, no person is above the law in this country. i can't say it anymore clearly than that. there is nothing in the
principles of prosecution, in any other factors which prevent us from investigating anyone, anyone, who is criminally responsible for an attempt to undo a democratic election. >> let's listen into the vice president right now, speaking in north carolina. >> -- the and work that we're doing in washington, d.c., the work that we are doing in terms of the policy work, it's not real until it hits the streets. it's not real until real people have the ability to take advantage of what we hope will help them and uplift their lives. and the connectivity, if you will, between what we do in washington, d.c. and it hitting the streets of charlotte are people like miss tiffany. so she makes all the difference. so, again, can we please applaud her?
please applaud her. and before i begin, i do want to speak about our incredible president, joe biden. this morning, he and i spoke by phone. he is in good spirits. he is feeling well. he is doing well. he is fully vaccinated and twice boosted. of course, he is. as everyone, we would encourage who is eligible, to do the same. and he is working from the white house residence. and when we spoke, he was very pleased, as i said that he were all here together today, talking about the work that our administration is doing on behalf of parents and working families and all who deserve to be seen and heard. >> we'll break away. we'll continue to monitor that event. we did hear the vice president address president biden's diagnose of covid, saying he's working still from the white
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we are continue to follow the breaking news. in just about 30 minutes, the white house will give us a formal update on president biden's positive covid diagnosis. here's what we know rowan. the president had mild symptoms last night. he tested positive this morning. he has started taking the anti-viral treatment, paxlovid, and is working from the white house today, but he's in isolation. we are told a lot of people in the white house saw this diagnosis as inevitable and they've been preparing for it as cases have ticked up all around the country. take a look at this. this is the current level of community transmission here in the united states. if you're in an area that's shaded red, the cdc says you should be wearing a mask indoors. joining us now is dr. peter hotez from the center for vaccine development at texas children's hospital. he's also a dean at baylor college of medicine. and dr. carlos del rio is the executive associate dean at emory medical school in atlanta.
guys, thank you for being here. dr. hotez, president biden has contracted this virus as covid hospitalization numbers are right now as high as they were back in march. first, are you surprise he got it, and how would you characterize the state of covid we're in right now? >>, well, the level of transmission from this ba.5 subvariant is just extraordinary. this is probably the most highly transmissible subvariant that we've seen. and so many of us are hearing about friends and colleagues get infected. so it's not surprising that coming back from europe, that the president might have gotten exposed and infected, and that's why, you know, there was a big effort to make certain that all of americans are getting boosted and hopefully getting their second boost, which is the single most impactful thing you can do to prevent yourself from being hospitalized or going to an emergency room. >> dr. del rio, to that point, president biden had his second booster dose, but right now
according to the cdc, only 34% of americans over the age of 5 have had their first booster dose. slo how vulnerable is most of america right now? >> ana, i think there are two issues here. because of this variant, this ba.5 that dr. hotez talked about, not only is it highly transmissible, but also is more likely to invade the immune system. so prior infection with covid, as well as vaccination, is not sufficient to prevent you from getting infected. you can still get infected. the key of vaccines is not the prevention of infection, though. it's prevention of severe disease, hospitalization, and death. people over 65, about 63% of them have received their first booster and about 23% have received their second booster. so my major concern is peempl 65, even over the age of 60, only 25% have received their first booster and only a lower number have received their second booster. if you're over the age of 50 and
you have not been boosted, i would strongly recommend you get boosted, because the reality is you will find this virus or this virus will find ewe. if you get infected, you're much likely to do better if you're vaccinated and double boosted. >> we know what the mitigation efforts look like, but have to work, they want to travel and go to concerts and sporting events. how does the country keep moving forward while now living with covid? >> i know we sound like broken records by now, but the answer is get the second boost if you're over the age of 50 and you're eligible. the cdc came out with data, and it's pretty sobering that the decline in protection is substantial, when and if you haven't gotten boosted or even if you've got a single boost, the decline after four months is pretty concerning, down from 75% protection versus hospitalization, down to only about 50% protection versus option. so the second boost makes a big difference. so the single-most impactful thing you can do is be mindful
of your vaccination status, maximize your boosters, and also, vaccinate your children. and the other sobering numbers are only about 30%, for instance, of parents are vaccinating their 5 to 11-year-olds and almost no parent has been vaccinating their under 5. we still have a lot of advocacy and awareness to do to make the american people understand that 2022 is not a good year for covid. it's looking almost as bad as 2021 or 2020. >> dr. del rio, when you talk about these variants sort of evading our previous immunity, whether it's from previous infection or from the vaccine so far, we know vaccine makers are trying to kind of kip with the variants and reconfigure their vaccines to be stronger, but when do you anticipate that we'll have vaccines that actually do protect us from getting infected, not just from severe illness? >> well, you know, that's going to take some time, anna.
creating vaccines against mucusal viral infections that are sterilizing, that create protective immunity against infection is very strong, it's extraordinarily hard. maybe you need a nasal vaccine, you need a different kind of vaccine. even if you think about the flu vaccine, only has about 40 to 50% protection against infection. but i want to emphasize, this is not just about vaccines. as much as we talk about vaccines, we also have testing and we also have anti-virals. and when you ask about how do we get protected, we get protected by getting vaccinated and boosted. we get protected by wearing masks when we're indoors. but we also get protected by testing ourselves. and what happened to the president, he starting having symptoms, he rapidly got tested. he got tested and if you are eligible to get anti-virals or monoclonal antibodies, you should get treated. so knowing about treatment, access to therapy is one of the advantages that we have in our country. and people are not using therapy actively enough. so paxlovid is available, and a
drug that's available. these are three very good treatments for covid. so if you're over the age of 60 or 65 wi. if you're immunocompromised or high risk like a pregnant woman, it's a good opportunity to talk to your doctor and get tested and treated, because treatment makes a big difference. >> that's encouraging. thank you so much, dr. carlos del rio, dr. peter hotez, i appreciate you both very much. to capitol hill next, where there's a major push to codify same-sex marriage as well as interracial marriage. we've got new cnn reporting on that, ahead. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ the new gmc sierra. premium and capable.
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now not movement on capitol hill to protect same-sex and interracial marriage, a bill to codify both could be gaining ground in the senate. at least ten republicans would need to join all 50 democrats to do so. cnn has been asking all 50 gop senators where they stand, and cnn's melanie is joining us now. walk us through, how did the numbers break down? >> yeah, my colleagues have been doing some excellent work on this, asking every single republican in the senate where they stand on this issue, and what they have found is that so far, there are four either yes or likely yes votes on this.
there are eight hard no's, and there are 16 undecideds, with the rest so far just not responding to our requests for comment. remember, they need ten republicans in order to overcome the filibuster, so what initially looked like a symbolic messaging bill in the house now looks like it has a real potential path forward in the senate. this is something that is really gaining steam. it's a little unclear as far as timing for a floor vote. there is only about a week left until the senate goes on break for an august recess, but it's worth pointing out that across the capitol in the house, there was a strong show of support for this bill. gop leaders didn't even whip against it. in fact, 47 republicans there in the house supported it, including scott perry, the chairman of the conservative freedom caucus, elise stefanik, and liz cheney, who was previously openly opposed to gay marriage so there's clearly been a sea change in the republican party. the question is whether that translates into legislative
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