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five states. cnn's rejecting that trump endorsed candidate tutor dixon will win the michigan republican gubernatorial primary. it predicts eric schmidt has won the missouri gop senate primary. we'll have more results to come. twitter, dickson, and eric smith, the winners there. the fact, is in state after state, democracy is on the ballot tonight. will the gop be the party of trump and his election lies, or is there room left in the party of lincoln for candidates to defend our free and fair elections? we may get some answers tonight. the last polls just closing right now in arizona, their primaries, were trump backed candidates are all over the ballot, running for the senate, governor, and the secretary of state. the state that has been grand zero for trump's postelection defeat revenge tour. kyung lah is live for us in phoenix, arizona, sara murray is in grand rapids, michigan with more on the results there. jeff zeleny is in st. louis, missouri, cnn's john king is at the magic wall to break it all
down for us. we have a lot to cover for you. i want to get -- good evening to everyone, i want to get straight to sara murray and grand rapids, michigan, with the latest. sarah, you're in michigan, [inaudible] commentator tudor dixon wins the gop gubernatorial primary. tell us more, please. >> that's right, tudor dixon is just behind me. she is getting her victory speech, thank you her supporters. this has been a long and chaotic primary in michigan. and tudor [inaudible] establishment candidate in the race. donald trump came in just a few days ago and through his endorsement behind, which obviously made a difference in helping her break away from the rest of the field. she clinched her victory. this has been [inaudible] up against a number of election deniers. she has put a band-aid on how she [inaudible] some points saying she believes it was stolen, and backing away from that in recent days. don? >> so, sarah, michigan congressman peter meijer is one of ten house members to vote
for trump's second impeachment, and democrats have attempted to boost his election denying opponent. explain that one, please. [applause] >> this is an indication of how much democrats want to be able to hold on to the house. they want that seat to flip into the democratic column, and it's clear that they are willing to spend money on an election denier to do that. this has been a huge point of frustration to peter meijer who says, you know, you see democrats out there talking about how people who are election deniers are a threat to democracy, a threat to america, and yet, here, democrats are propping up his opponent, and election denier in the race, don. >> thank, you sara. standby. i want to get to jeff zeleny, in missouri. big news where you are. tell us about the senate race. >> that's correct, don. we are projecting eric schmidt who is the missouri attorney general will be the winner here in the republican senate contest. the big story, though, of course, is a former missouri --
he is trying for a come back here for years after resigning in disgrace from his office. he is being defeated handily tonight. he is in a distant third place, and this really came about over the last several weeks or so on his conduct from office became a central issue in this race, and republicans simply thought he could lose the seat for the party. missouri, of course, is a deep red state. it has been a decade since the democrats have won statewide in a senate seat. republicans in washington, across the board, we're concerned that if he would become the nominee, he would put the seat and risk. that is what the candidates campaigned on after spending some time here at the last couple days with eric schmidt. he was blunt about the fact the state simply should not elect someone who is unpaid for office, in his words, someone who is an alleged wife abuser and a child abuser. of course, governor greitens denied all those allegations.
tonight, of course, 24 hours after the former president issued an endorsement for the two erics, one of erics those one. don, it had little, if anything, to do with donald trump's half endorsement. it had everything to do with the fact that eric greitens collapsed, and people who know him best, missouri voters, simply did not want to risk the senate seat. they show they had no tolerance for a return of him to public life. so eric schmitt will be addressing the crowd here behind me in st. louis county, shortly. certainly, this gives pause to republicans. republicans in washington that i've been speaking with the last few minutes, don, are breathing a sigh of relief. they believe this is -- it will be a safe seat for them come november. >> jeff zeleny, thank you very much. i want you to stand by. i want to get to arizona where the polls are close. our kyung lah is there. qiang, we will start seeing the results on all eyes on the governor's race putting trump backed versus pence backed
candidates. you are with the pence backed candidate, karen taylor robeson at the watch party. how is the campaign feeling? what is the movement? >> the best way to put it is that they are simply holding their breath and watching the clock. we are expecting the first results to drop in just about an hour, a little under an hour. this is going to be the early vote released by maricopa county, the most populous county. that would be about 70% of the vote says the county, and how this county goes is really going to tell us where taylor robson stands tonight. the margin of how much she is ahead has to be big. it has to be a certain burden edge. the campaign isn't telling us what they are looking, more specifically. the bigger the margin, the bigger the chance that she has to fend off carey lake. the campaign says voters in this state, in arizona, republicans were given a clear choice. it was vice president mike
pence backing karen taylor robson. she is backed by the establishment, by governor doug doocy. contrast that with the trump backed, lie embracing, kerry lake. she has fully embraced donald trump's 2020 election lie, has made it a centerpiece of her campaign. this campaign says that choice was very clear, two different styles of governing, two different styles of campaigning, they believe how republicans decide where they want their party to go tonight will tell us the power of donald trump in this critical battleground state. don? >> kyung, there's a full slate of election deniers on arizona 's ballot, including one in the senate race. more about that, what is going on there? >> up and down, the ballot. let's first address that, don. not only in governor, but in the u.s. senate race, as well as attorney generals, secretary state, and further on down.
donald trump, certainly, he made his wishes and endorsement known in the state of arizona. blake masters is his choice for u.s. senate, it is a crowded field. it's a much more crowded field than this one, where there is a clear choice here. blake masters, he is embraced embracing donald trump's ally. he put out an ad that says he believed trump won in 2020. reminder, he did not win the arizona vote. don? >> all right, kyung, to john king now. you are at the math, what are you watching? >> key questions. republican voters, right? we are picking candidates for key races in november. what are republican voters going to tell us? what about those election deniers in arizona? what about the state of michigan and another thing i'm looking at, to switch the map here, a very important initiative. the first time abortion has been on the ballot since the supreme court made its decision in kansas. again, republican state, democratic governor, deeply republican state. but our voters telling us? do you think the supreme court went to fire?
in the early results in kansas were not done yet here, saying, yes, in a state that is a very red state, no, means you do not want to open the kansas constitution to allowing the legislator to ban abortion. it's leading right now in kansas, at 51% of the vote. but no is leading at the moment, democrats are going to watch this closely, suburban republicans are upset at the supreme court decision. they're willing to vote for democrats in the fall. we'll abortion -- the abortion issue in kansas, where you have democrats, joe biden, let's go back in time and look at it this way. joe biden won five counties in kansas in 2020. donald trump won convincingly, but if you come back to where we are now, to the initiative, you see the counties that biden won are all overwhelmingly voting no right now. is this the turnout gift, if you will, turnout issue for the democrats? that is one thing to watch tonight as we count the kansas vote. i think the more broadly don, whether you are looking at house republicans who voted to impeach donald trump in these key governor primaries, or senate republican primaries, it will bring missouri, up and let
you jump in. how deep in the bloodstream of the republican party is this an attack on the democracy? after the january 6th hearings, after everything we have heard from donald trump's inside team, not rhinos, not democrats, not liberals, not deep status, after everything we have heard from trump's team about how he knew it was a lie, he kept pushing, corruptly tried to steal an election. republican voters, will they say they had a network embrace it? >> john king, i have a group of folks here who i am sure you are familiar with. we are going to ask you questions. i want to know from you, i will introduce them, is there anything that is unusual to? you considering kansas. i've been watching a reporting. what about the turnout there? i'm hearing the turnout is really high, and that speaks to what is on the mind of kansas voters, especially in a state that is as right as kansas, that they are going to uphold abortion rights. >> so, again, this is a state that has a democratic governor. a democratic governor who is a very conservative -- this wouldn't be someone who
wins the governorship of maryland, or of a very blue state. so, here, you have, again, 52%. we need to count the votes. a key question tonight, here, in kansas, and around the country, you can't win michigan in a close election without carrying the suburbs, you can't win arizona without carrying the suburbs. those key senate races in places like pennsylvania, they will come down to the suburbs. our suburban republicans here in lawrence, kansas, kansas city, topeka, manhattan, are they telling the republican party, look, we don't like with the supreme court did, and we do not want you to try to build on it by banning abortion in the states? restrictions on abortions? that's a conversation most americans are open to. outright bans on abortion, eliminating the exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother? kansas is going to send a message tonight. the question is, do antiabortion republicans in the states listen to this vote? again, we are at 50%. i want to be careful. there is a lot of rural kansas. the vote is yet to come in. this could tighten up considerably, the results could
actually change. that is the kick out question for democrats. democrats, believe in a year, the wind is in their face. it's a democratic president, first midterm, history says the president's party suffers. the democrats are looking for something to help them turn out voters and to peel back the suburban republicans who voted against donald trump, to peel back independents who might say i don't like inflation, i don't think biden has delivered, democrats believe the abortion issue could be a turnout mechanism and a vote changing mechanism. kansas is part of that test, don. >> john, stay with us just for a little bit. i want to bring in the folks in the room here with me, in new york. that's abby philip, david chalian, david axelrod, as well. we are going to keep john for a, bit if you guys have any questions. i was watching the kansas results, and i found it interesting considering where we are. it has not been called, yet as john said. there is a ways to go. the thing about what happened with the -- any questions for john, before you go? you guys do this all the time, i finally be very interesting. john is the information coming from the magic wall here. any questions?
>> we could ask john about the unbelievable baseball trade that occurred tonight with the washington nationals. [laughs] it has a lot of us very upset. the red sox have made some -- >> is there anything unusual that, john, you are seeing tonight, that stands out to you as you are watching these results come in? >> another question. there are many layers of the trump effect, if you will, the spread of, again, we need competitive political parties. we don't want the democratic party in america, we need competitive political parties. the depth of the cancer in the republican bloodstream about the big lie, and the trump effect. that's another thing being tested. again, you are talking to sarah murray about this race in michigan, let me bring up the state of michigan, and come on. up a number of primaries, the one we are watching closely here is peter meijer, one of the ten republicans who voted to impeach trump. to more of them have primaries that in washington state. the polls close out there in about an hour, don. look how close this is. john, it's the -- right up to 51, if you want, to 50%. it's 253 votes at the moment with about a third of the vote counted. again, one of my big questions
is, do republicans continue to follow, not so much trump, but trumpism? the big lie, that our elections are corrupt, that you cannot have disagreement within the party, at least not a disagreement with donald trump? is that changing? are we going to continue that through november and beyond? that is one of the questions tonight. it's one of the races i am watching. it's way too close to call right now. we are going to be counting votes there. to more of those out in washington state a bit later. >> joining, thanks. abby, i want to get to you here in the room. so many election deniers front and center in these primaries today. what stands out to you as you watch these results roll in so far? pretty much everyone is an election -- , even the ones who are not election deniers. it's sort of a watered down version of it. this is the bare minimum mind that you must cross to be on a republican ballot virtually in this country at this point. even when you look at someone like tutor dixon in the
michigan governor's race, she is a candidate who, you know, kind of portrays ourself as somebody mayor in the mainstream. but is more or less peddling a watered down version of the big lie, election integrity efforts, trying to make that the front and center of their race. so, that is what to me, have to keep in mind here. there are some people on the far end of this, like carey, like who doesn't believe that any election she or anyone else loses is legitimate. and there are many others who are towing that line, even carry likes opponent. she was on cnn a few weeks ago talking to karen taylor robson. and she didn't really want to say whether joe biden was legitimately elected president of the united states. that should tell you everything you need to know about how republican candidates feel like they need to position themselves to even have a shot at their party.
>> it's interesting how they dance around. that >> talk about dixon, as recently as may, when she thought she was in a very competitive republican primary, she was pretty adamant that all trump had won the state of michigan he did not. only as she got trump's endorsement, she coalesce the devos family money, share the chamber of commerce crowd and the trump crowd. but then she started something when she realized, you know, she as she did, one tonight. and in a position of understanding as she is now heading into a general election, that perhaps she wants to shave that a little bit and perhaps not be that adamant. and that dance that they do, that is gonna be a very tricky proposition. >> yes, well we saw this last year in virginia, right, where grand youngkin who ended up getting elected governor of virginia was much more amenable to the idea that something was
amiss, much more amenable to trump generally. and soon as he secured the nomination, which did not require primary, he very quickly shifted away from that. >> i don't work for him. >> it did work for him. but the question is, is that what we are going to see with these candidates who are not outright declare or's, once they have the threat of trump in a primary in their rearview mirror, do they think have to get well with voters by moving away from this position? >> i feel like it only works, right, if they can focus on other issues. for example, glenn youngkin was able to pivot to education, pivot to sort of cultural issues. though the task this cycle will be the economy. can republicans make that pivot? if things start to improve for democrats on the economy, on the abortion issue, on guns, i think that's a different environment. >> i think they are going to be told to. the consulting class is going to tell them, listen, as we go into the general election, talk about inflation talk about job creation, talk about the fact
that interest rates are increasing right now. but i don't think donald trump is the de facto ahead of the republican party that you are going to see folks. because they realize they need him. but once he is gone, when he is no longer, you know, there with his long shadow cast over everything, i do think you will see republican start to come back to reality. >> i appreciate that, i appreciate that use the words consulting class in the same sentence. >> i did say class. >> but does that dance work? are you going to have to pick whether you lead or follow that dance, or whether it's a foxtrot or a waltz? i, mean summaries would have to make a decision when it comes to november. >> depending on whatever state therein, quite frankly, they will tailor their message. >> if it's a swing state. >> how much trump's would be a part of their campaign or not part of their campaign. >> which is why, by the way, the whole conversation, sorry, david, donald trump threatening to announce a presidential campaign is something that many republicans oversee in these
campaigns try and win majorities in congress do not want to see at all because they understand the moment they inject themselves, then a conversation with the economy gets a lot more muted, which is what they want to be running. on >> our government, stick around. we have lots more to talk about. lots more results coming in the primaries across the country tonight. and first on cnn, more missing tax. and now it is the pentagon. what they say it means and what it means for investigation. we will be right back. ♪ it wasn't me by shaggy ♪ you're never responsible for unauthorized purchas on your discover card.
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all right, it is election night in america. we're back with results, early results coming in from key primaries in five states tonight. so, how will all of this shape the upcoming midterms. back with me now is abby philip, david chalian, mark preston, and david axelrod. let's get back to what we are talking about in kansas. and what's happening with abortion there. tell me about it for the first time. and since this court overturn roe v. wade, this referendum has gone on in kansas. the turnout is amazing. is this possibly an overreach. i should say, it is an unusual turnout. is it possible overreach for the republicans? >> i think the turnout tells us that people care.
they care on both sides of the issue. so we'll see how it turns out. but that is critically important. but the polling on abortion is actually very clear on this issue. americans, by large, support some abortion rights in this country. but what has been happening recently is that you are seeing republicans moving in midwestern states and southern states to outlaw virtually all abortions. and this kansas referendum really puts that question to the american voter and asked them do you agree with that idea, that virtually all abortions could or should be outlawed. and the answer to that is going to be critically important. because it is not true, as some republicans are saying, that that is not what is being attempted. that is what is being attempted. and while a lot of americans, maybe they support some restrictions, 12 weeks, 16 weeks, 22 weeks, what have you, the polling is very clear that
there is not support for a whole ban on abortion. >> it's so important, this was all tonight, because it is not pulling. it's going to be the first electoral proof. if indeed the abortion rights side winds, this will be the first post-roe being overturned electoral proof of all that we've seen in the polling. and it's all the electoral proof of why when the dobbs decision came down, a lot of the republican leadership was advising their candidates don't go out there and talk about abortion. keep the focus on the economy, because they understood this dynamic. >> i tell you one place where they are going to watch this very closely is the state of michigan, where governor whitmer's opponent may be tudor dixon, seems to be ahead right now. and she's been a full-throated advocate for a no restrictions approach to abortion. they have their own constitutional amendment initiative on the ballot for november that would essentially in shrine abortion rights in the state constitution.
so this is going to be a huge issue. and i would expect that if tudor dixon is the nominee tonight, she would celebrate and wake up tomorrow or the next day to ads with video of her position on this issue, because it is not going to be a winning issue in the state of michigan. >> as i'm watching, reading, and listening to conservative commentators and political pundits, the question is, is a question right? we don't know what's gonna happen in kansas. but the results that are now, they're like, is the question that people are confused about the question? >> there's always a question whenever you are putting anything on a ballot about whether it is confusing or not confusing. >> i think it's more that's confusing because the results are not going in the way they thought. >> so they're looking for an excuse, because it didn't go their way. i would say, just reading that, it was a pretty basic question that's on the ballot. i mean, do support, you know, outlawing abortions in the state, yes or no? is basically what it says. you know what's interesting
about this for democrats, buying, large republicans would be happy with what happens in missouri right. now greitens goes down, schmitt goes up. republicans feel like they might take back the senate. but we go back to what john king was saying earlier, he's right about it, elections are won in the suburb. if you look at a state like georgia, which is very much a southern state, but has become a northern state, there's a lot of business that has moved out of the northeast that has gone to the northern suburbs of atlanta, and it is really turning over what has been a conservative place. and that senate race, perhaps in the governor's race, in georgia will we see women, even more centrist republican women come out in support the democratic nominee? because the concern on abortion. and we saw that in pasadena. >> also in arizona, maricopa county is a huge part of the entire state electorate. and, you know, this could be very important for tally and terms of democrats retaining that seat.
on your question about the initiative, don, abe and i were talking about this earlier today. the thing about initiatives is if there is confusion, the default position for people tends to be no. and this particular case, the yes side was, yes we want to essentially allow the constitution to be changed so abortion could be restricted. and so, they started off with a burden their. and i think if there was confusion, it probably helps the pro-abortion rights side to turn this back, if that's indeed what happened. >> i think marcus right though. this hinges on women. it hinges on women in the suburbs. and as you said, most people would like some sort of restrictions on abortion, but not necessarily on outright ban. >> i mean, the outright bans are stepping further then where the voters have been for a very long time. i'm not talk about that last
five years, i mean, the polling on this has been relatively stable, in fact moving in the direction of abortion rights in this country for decades. so that's where we are. what are women going to do? when we talk about arizona, what are young voters going to do? arizona is a state where, you know, there are a lot of young latinos who are eligible to vote and who tend to lean democratic. it probably gave joe biden a bit of an edge in 2020. one of those younger voters going to do who spent their whole lives in a world where roe v. wade was law of the land? these are some of the big questions going into november. they are the wildcards in this race. and even republicans will acknowledge that when you look at states like oklahoma, where the governor there says we want to ban all abortions in the state and has done so virtually, it's not hypothetical anymore. it actually has happened. and voters are now evaluating the things that are actually
happening and making determinations about whether that is why they want to see. >> we should say, again, the results are coming in in kansas. i'm not sure if we have them and could show them. again, at this point in the evening when you look, at this referendum of what's happening now, to have them in the 60s, abortion rights being protected in kansas, so far, again, not the final results. i think it is pretty striking to see what is happening there. stick around, everyone. thank you. more missing texts this time from top trump officials at the department of defense, and that comes on top of the continuing scandal over missing secret service text messages. what is all going down, what is it going to mean for the january 6th investigation? we will discuss right after this.
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>> can someone explain what is going on with the missing texts? first on cnn, the cell phones of several senior defense department u.s. military officials were wiped when those officials left their post at the end of the trump administration, and that means texts that might have been suntory received on january 6th have all been deleted. our watchdog group is seeking january 6th data from former acting secretary of defense chris miller, former chief of staff cash patel, and former secretary of the army ryan mccarthy among other pentagon officials. cnn is learning this from court filings. let's discuss now with cnn senior law enforcement analyst andrew mccabe. andrew, what is up here? what is going on? >> well, don, apparently, what we have is an instance where,
not one, not two, but three separate government agencies are all allowing senior officials to leave their post, walk out the door, and not preserving their communications, their records on their cell phones, in a way that is required by the federal records act. it is an extraordinary coincidence, maybe, maybe not, one that also speaks of, potentially, and intentional effort to destroy records of senior officials as they are walking out the door, we don't know what we have yet. >> andrew, there is no suggestion these officials themselves erased these records. when you look at, it look at the people here, miller, patel, mccarthy, crucial witnesses in the government's response to january 6th. i mean, but a lot of questions here. >> that's absolutely right, don. you know, i know, having been a senior official, and a federal government agency for quite some time, it is, you know, you are routinely briefed by
security officials on the fact that after you've reached a certain level, in a government agency, your records have to be preserved. the things you write, things you read, the notes you take, your emails and text messages should be preserved and sent to the national archives. the fact the department of defense doesn't have a system in place to do this, it is -- i can't believe that that's the case. >> i'm glad you said that. okay, we are talking about the department. at these missing pentagon records to stories we've talked about over the last few weeks, missing texts from dhs officials, missing secret service texts. look, again, as you said, no one is saying there is anything nefarious going on, but it certainly is one of those things that make you go kash hmm. hard to believe it's all a coincidence. >> shouldn't we be looking more broadly? how about everyone else at the cabinet level that served in the trump administration? many of whom resigned,
supposedly, in discussed on or near shortly after january 6th, but see device, elaine chao, others. what happened to their records? is it routine cabinet level officials resign and somebody just, you know, wipes their phone as if they were like the supervisor of the motor pool, or something? it's ridiculous. there needs to be an investigation to see how members of that administration are living up to, or not, their responsibilities and preserve their records. >> and the more, around the pentagon surrounding the capitol, this is a testimony from former acting defense secretary chris miller about any plans to have troops deployed on january six. here he is. >> obviously, i had plans for activating more folks, but that was not anything more than contingency planning. there was no official message track or anything of that nature to -- >> just so we are clear, you did not have 10,000 troops,
quote, to beyond the ready, for january 6th? prior to january 6th? >> not a military person, probably could've had some sort of weird interpretation, but no, down to your question. >> why is it so important to get to the bottom of what communications there were about deploying troops that day, andrew? >> so, don, forget about all the other reasons we are interested in january 6th. let's just talk about how did our agencies perform on that today? it's a normal and responsible thing to go back after the fact, and investigate through an inspector general, or other entities. did people do the right thing? where we adequately prepared? what did we know, and what steps did we take to prevent, oh, i don't know, an attack on the capitol? now, essentially, you can't do that. a large tranche of the sort of records that would preserve what people thought, who they
talked to, steps they took, is gone forever. those records having been lost when the cell phones were turned in and wiped. it obstructs our ability to figure out how well the agencies are performing, and therefore prevents them from ever learning from this episode and doing it better in the future. that is truly concerning, should be concerning to every citizen. >> andrew mccabe, thank you, sir, i really appreciate it. >> thanks, don. >> when we come back, we'll have results on the kansas initiative on abortion right after this. [zoom call] ...pivot... work bye. vacation hi! book with priceline. 'cause when you save more, you can “no way!” more. no wayyyy. no waaayyy! no way! [phone ringing] hm. no way! no way! priceline. every trip is a big deal.
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seen this ad? it's not paid for by california tribes. it's paid for by the out of state gambling corporations that wrote prop 27. it doesn't tell you 90% of the profits go to the out of state corporations. a tiny share goes to the homeless, and even less to tribes. and a big loophole says, costs to promote betting reduce money for the tribes, so they get less. hidden agendas. fine print. loopholes. prop 27. they didn't write it for the tribes or the homeless. they wrote it for themselves. we have more primary results coming in, in kansas, voters maintaining the right to abortion. let's take a look at our vote board right now, look at that, 61 -- to 38.1%.
78% of the votes in. still, i want to get to john king, nick valencia, abby philip, to digest this and talk about it. john, to you first. we were just talking about kansas at the top of the show, at the top of the hour. kansas is the first state to let voters weigh in on abortion post-roe. one of the results there? >> in the very first, it's a statewide referendum, should we change the state constitution, a question for kansas voters. this red state, democratic -- conservative state in the middle of america. and by large margin, this is where the kansas are saying no. our state constitution right now guarantees the right to abortion, and they do not want to change. they do not want to open it up, if you will, to let the legislature consider a total ban on abortion or more restrictions on abortion. watch how the vote plays out. it's significant, because, number one it's happening in the conservative part of america. significant, number two, because it's the first ballot initiative, the first time voters get to speak to the
supreme court decision, wiping out world putting dobbs into place. where do we go from here? that is a debate you can have with my colleagues. it's also debate we will watch play out and races for governor and races for congress, house, and senate as some republicans say they would like a national band, other republicans say we should do the state by state. but again, in a pretty concerned, stateless go back to 2020, donald trump 56, joe biden 41. look at this part of the state here, you do have five counties here where joe biden did carry the state. so when you come back to the ballot initiative now and you look, it is the eastern part of the state largely the suburbs. again, i say this too many times, i'm like a broken record, but i say it because it's crew. the suburbs in americas decide elections. kansas is close, mostly elections in canvas are not close, the governor's race might be, but this is not that close as you count the rest of oats. 62% 30 to 38%, the citizens of kansas saying they do not want to open up their state constitution. it's a defeat for abortion opponents, it's a victory for abortion rights activists and democrats believe this is
potentially a sign for them that they can motivate not only democratic base voters, but suburban republicans who might be more moderate, might be more opening, like they did when they ran away from tall trump and voted for joe biden. so, democrats think the turnout here could be a healthy sign for them heading into november. but just on the basis of this, the first time the voters got to say they think, that is a pretty loud message from kansas. >> we will get nick in a moment. abby, i want your reaction to this. john, this is a very good question. what does this mean? what happens now? >> yeah, i think it is a pretty seismic moment for this question of where do voters stand on this issue. i mean, think about kansas. kansas is a conservative part of the country. and it is surrounded by other conservative states that have virtually banned all abortions. texas, oklahoma, louisiana, you name it, virtually a band boards. and kansas remains a place where voters are saying we do not want to join them. and i think that really says a lot about what happens when you
just take the question and put it to the voters and have them give a yes or no. and as i've said repeatedly, the -- is not ambiguous on this question. a majority of americans, more than 50%, more than 60%, in some polls 70%, do not support outright bans on all abortions in this country. and so, we do not have many opportunities to see what that looks like when voters get to decide. but this is one of them. and it should be, potentially, a warning sign not just to national republicans but to state wide republicans. we're talking about states like michigan, pennsylvania, and others, with this very same question could come up for lawmakers, for the governors, in the case of michigan, even for voters. and it will be important for them to see what happens when you put it to voters. and when you put it to women who overwhelmingly support some right to abortion in this
country. >> nick valencia is following the story on the ground in kansas. what do you see, what are you hearing? >> don, this is a major upset victory for abortion rights advocates, not just here in kansas, but beyond. we spoke last week to kansas for constitutional freedom, that's the main coalition of abortion rights advocates that were pushing the get out the vote, trying to educate voters here. they felt they were fighting an uphill battle because the ambiguous wording of this amendment. a yes vote would've strip protections for abortion rights. a no votes would've maintain the status quo. the 2009 teen kansas supreme court put forward. but also was on a primary ballot, where we know republicans are historically more likely to vote and lower voter turnout. we saw a high voter turnout in counties across the state. and kansans for constitutional freedom, they are elated. we're looking in on their watch party to see the reaction here. and they think this is a huge victory for their movement here, and also signals a sign to the rest of the country, the
referendum that would've weekend abortion access in the state has failed, pending a devastating loss to the pro-life movement here. >> all right, we will continue to fall. thank you nick, thank you abby, john king as well. more to cover, we're going to talk about nancy pelosi meeting with taiwan's president just moments ago in the myths of china's threats over retaliation on her visit. we will go there live, next. u need is a phone and a finger. just go to vroom.c.com, scroll through thousands of cars. then, tap to buy. that's it. no sales speak. no wasted titime. just, straight up great cars. right from your phone to your driveway. go to vroom.com and pick your favorite. wooo. oh yeah, she digs it. buy your car on vroom.com vroom. get in.
the house speaker nancy pelosi speaking last hour in taiwan as part of her asia to her. this week pelosi's delivering the remarks, despite china's escalate threats retaliation over her visit. for more, i want to bring in cnn's will ripley. he is live for us from taipei. we'll, good morning to you there. thank you for joining. what is the house speaker's message tonight? is she responding to the tensions with china? >> hi don. she's really trying to underscore the difference between what we are seeing out of china and what we are seeing
for the united states. nancy pelosi said she is here to show solidarity with the people of taiwan, almost 24 million people who are under an increasing threat from mainland china in terms of military intimidation in, economic and military intimidation. so she is coming here knowing that china has, you know, been warning against it for weeks. and she spoke to parliament, and talked about how the sheer values between taiwan in the united states, values like democracy, inclusion, progressive values that she of course holds dear to her heart. she is here to underscore the commitment, at least on the part of her and her supporters. and is really bipartisan support, don, to stand with taiwan in the face of this growing threat. and she just received an award as well, the order of propitious clouds. do you know what that word means? propitious. >> not topeka. propitious. >> that's what i thought to,
the hair, over 40 to hair starts to go. it means to bring about good fortune. >> got it. let's talk about beijing, why are they so unhappy with this visit, will? >> well, because they look at taiwan as just another chinese province that just happens to have not had the communist rulers running up for the last 70 plus years. they have what beijing considers an illegitimate government, a renegade government. of course, taiwan has a democratic system, the people here elected now under second term, taiwan's president, he thinks the ruler of china's also the ruler of taiwan, and he said repeatedly that he will bring this island back to the motherland. he used the word reunify. but the communist rulers in beijing have never once governed this island since the end of china's civil war. and taiwan says they have a military, they have their own
government, they acted like they were a sovereign nation. but because china basically has bullied them economically and also diplomatically, most countries around the world do not officially recognize taiwan as a country. but a lot of democracies have friendships and economic relations with taiwan, and they hope that pelosi being here, she'll be able to take what's she learns here about taiwan so moxie, bring it back to washington, and might shape policy decisions if taiwan does need help from the united states and international community, if china does not make a move. >> will ripley, propitious, thank you, i appreciate it. >> yeah. >> we've got more coming up on key primaries tonight, like arizona, where election deniers are all over the ballot. that is next. this... is the planning effect. this is how it feels to know you have a w wealth plan that covers everything that's important to you. this is what it's like to have a dedicated fidelity advisor looking at your full financial picture. making sure you have the right balance of risk and reward.
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