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on the heels of a phone call between alex drueke, his mother, bunny, and the state department. it is a cause that hits home for drueke. he has his own dog diesel. his mother says alex asked about the dog whenever she has been able to talk to him. she hears the excitement about seeing him when he comes home. thanks so much for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. good evening, there are multiple new developments and overlapping threads tonight in the nchkss, court cases, court rulings and subpoenas connected with and surrounding the former president. there's significant news on the attempt to overturn the election, the search of mar-a-lago and the climate of violence that he and his supporters have fomented in the wake of it. now on the search tonight, the justice department late today filed objections to unsealing the affidavit that was used to obtain a warrant which a number of news outlets including cnn were seeking. in language suggesting a serious
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and criminal investigation, the filing argsing the disclosure would likely chill future cooperation by witnesses whose tennessee assistance may be sought as this investigation progresses as well as in other high profile investigations. in other words, this may not just be about retrooefg docu documents. separately, the department of justice unsealed charges against a pennsylvania man accused of threatening to kill fbi agents after the search. and the former president speaking to fox promised to help cool the climate of violence even while inciting it some more, calling it, quote, a very dangerous time, he said, quote, i will do whatever i can to help the country. he also said this, quote, and then they break into a president's house, a sneak attack where it was totally no one ever thought a thing like this would happen. he went on to again suggest the fbi planted evident and said, quote the people of this country are not going to stand for another scam, fire meet gasoline. also today, prosecutors in atlanta notified rudy giuliani that he is a target of the fulton county grand jury investigating the 2020 election.
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he responded late today invoking his former client. >> it's just a further desecration of the sixth amendment. i was his lawyer of record in that case. the statements that i made are either attorney/client privileged because they were between me and him, or they were being made on his behalf in order to defend him. when you start -- when you start turning around lawyers into defendants when they're defending their clients, we're starting to live in a fascist state. >> giuliani, you'll recall, falsely claimed there was widespread voting fraud in georgia tweeting again, falsely, the videotape doesn't lie. fulton county democrats stole the election. it's now beyond doubt. go to the tape. the tape did not show irregularities as he claimed. he also tried and subsequently failed to tie the former president's defeat to a deceased venezuelan dictator. >> you couldn't possibly believe
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that the company counting our vote with control over our vote is owned by two venezuelans who were allies of chavez, or present allies of maduro with a company whose chairman is a close associate and business partner of george soros. the biggest donor to the democrat party, the biggest donor to antifa, and the biggest donor to black lives matter. my goodness, what do we have to do to get you to give our people the truth? >> well, he's not telling the truth. in the same press conference, he said, and i'm quoting now, i know crimes. i can smell them. you don't have to smell this one. i can prove it to you 18 different ways. he couldn't, and he didn't, but on three occasions he spread those same conspiracy theories to georgia state legislators, something the fulton county d.a. says is part of her investigation, which traces back to this call between the president and georgia's
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secretary of state. >> so, look, all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state. >> south carolina senator lindsey graham also spoke with georgia secretary of state raffensperger in the wake of the election. today a federal judge denied his request to squash a subpoena for him to go before the fulton county grand jury. so barring a successful appeal, he will appear. now, to refresh your memory, here's what raffensperger recalled about his conversation with the senator. >> he asked if the ballots could be matched back to the voters, and then i got the sense it implied that then you could throw those out, would look at the counties with the highest frequent error of signatures. so that's the impression that i got. just an implication that look hard and see how many ballots
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you can throw out. >> lawyers for senator graham argue that his calls to georgia officials were directly related to his responsibilities as the then chairman of the senate judiciary committee, and there was also more today. we learned that the federal grand jury looking into january 6th has subpoenaed former white house attorney eric herschmann, that man there. he's the one who told the former president's election lawyer john eastman to, quote, get a great criminal defense lawyer, you're going to need it. there's new reporting in "the washington post," i'm quoting from the lead in the post, a team of computer experts directed by lawyers alied with president donald trump, copied sensitive data from election systems in georgia as part of a secrettive multistate effort to access voting equipment that was broader, more organized and more successful than previously reported. now if tonight were a movie, perhaps the title would be "everything everywhere all at once." there is also breaking news on top of all that, on the man who may know more about the president's business and finances than anyone else.
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cnn's evan perez joins us with that. so what are you learning? >> well, anderson, allen weisselberg who was a top executive with the trump organization, "the new york times" says that he is about to finalize a plea agreement with the district attorney in manhattan. as you remember, he was indicted in the summer and, you know, he's facing these tax charges as part of a tax scheme that the d.a. says also involves the trump organization. what's key about this plea agreement or this anticipated plea agreement that the "new york times" is reporting on is that they say he's not expected to cooperation against the trump organization or anyone else in the trump family. we know that the d.a.'s investigation st is still ongoi though it seems to have lost steam in the last few months. right now it appears he's going to -- you know, he's looking at perhaps a five-month jail
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sentence at the end of this. but it really gives you a sense, anderson, of all of the different parts of these investigations that touch on the former president. he's got a host of legal problems stretching from new york to atlanta, fulton county to now in south florida, obviously, as a result of the search of his home in palm beach. >> and so, evan, just to be clear, allen weisselberg, weren't some of the charges things like tuition was paid by the trump organization for his grandkids' school or his kids' school or something like that? >> right, exactly, and what prosecutors, they charged him with various tax schemes because they were trying to see if perhaps they could pressure him and have him provide information on the -- what the alleged tax vie violations of the trump organization itself. that seems to have petered out. it seems that they're ready to sign a deal with weisselberg without getting any of that cooperation that they were hoping to get against either the
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organization or members of the trump family. >> evan perez, appreciate it. thanks, joining us george conway, john dean, and cnn chief political analyst georgia borger. >> a lot of people looked at he's the guy who knows where the proverbial bodies are buried in terms of taxes and finances. >> i'm not all that surprised. we saw the resignation of those two prosecutors earlier from the manhattan d.a.'s office because they felt that the new incoming d.a. wasn't willing to pursue the case in the way that the prior one was. so i think this is -- what we see in new york is really going to be focused on the civil side, the new york attorney general who has the authority under a very broad civil statute to bring charges of fraud and, you know, insurance fraud or tax are fraud or bank fraud against the trump organization or the trump family, and she would meet a lower burden of proof. she'd only have to prove, you know, her case be by
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preponderance of the evidence, and she nogot a lot of traction this week because donald trump pled the fifth amendment 440 times, and in a civil case they can use that to infer facts against him and the trump organization. >> what do you think about how significant this weisselberg information is if it is? >> i was a little surprised. i thought they'd squeeze him a little harder. five months, i think he probably figures he can do that standing on his hands, so he's willing to go and get it behind him. i assume he thinks that trump will take care of him, that it's a fair deal, he has been taking care of him, so he's not going to be the rap if you will. you know, i don't know if they're going to press that cause harder in the criminal court. i think fgeorgia's right on the in the civil case is dynamite, and it's going to hurt trump a
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lot, probably financially much more than anything the criminal court will do. so it seems like a -- you know, like it's over. >> gloria, in terms of rudy giuliani and the fulton county georgia investigation. >> i spoke with his attorney bob costello and all i can tell you for sure is that he's going to appear this week, but that's about all we know. husband attorney said to me that he made it clear to the georgia prosecutors that, quote, if you think he's going to talk to you about conversations he had with his client, you're delusional. and then he also said to me, they want to play hardball, we know how to play hardball. they're calling it a political stunt. so anderson, it doesn't really sound productive to me. it seems to me like he's going to follow the lead of the president of the united states in pleading the fifth. >> and if giuliani -- so he's been told he's the target of this georgia probe or legally, what does that mean for him
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exactly? >> he's in deep trouble. if you're a target of the probe, that means they are thinking of and they are likely considering indicting you, and then telling you that, and i think that it's very interesting that they're doing that because it shows that the georgia -- the fulton county d.a.'s office is looking at this case in a very -- a holistic way the way the january 6th committee is looking at it. they're not just looking at the call that trump made to raffensperger. they're not just looking at the call that graham made to raffensperger, they're looking at fake lek torss. in the case of rudy giuliani, his involvement in all the other stuff but also his involvement in attempting to influence the georgia legislature and making false statements to the georgia legislature about the existing -- the existence of fraud. and you know, you can't make, you know, you can say whatever you want on tv, but if you make false statements to the government and government officials like the legislators, that's potentially a crime. >> if they were to indict giuliani, does that mean there's a higher chance that something
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would happen to the former president? >> yeah, of course, because everything, you know, this is part -- they're looking at this as a broad, overarching conspiracy, a multipronged conspiracy involving attempts to improperly influence the secretary of state, attempts to inproperly influence the legislature and lie to the legislature, and create these false slates these fraudulent electors. they're looking at this not in terms of individual one-off charges but they're looking at it as a broad criminal conspiracy. and at the top of that conspiracy is one donald j. trump. >> john, all this talk about attorney/client privilege, that doesn't cover an attorney engaged in potential criminal activities, does it? where does this leave giuliani? >> absolutely not. there's something called the crime fraud exception, and if they're sitting and talking about criminal activity, there's no -- there's no attorney/client privilege. and this case that fani willis
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is bringing and developing, been rot lots of hints that it's going to be a rico case, and those can be very sweeping with predicate acts that are criminal activities in many jurisdictions outside of georgia. so this could get -- this is going to be a big case. she's already named several other targets, and she's experienced handling rico cases, brought a very tough one a few years ago. she's also hired the foremost authority in georgia on rico cases. so i think this is moving ahead at full speed and i expect it will be a pretty devastating case that will include donald trump. >> john, the irony of that, if my memory serves me correct from my time in new york in my misspent youth was that giuliani actually made a name for himself by going after mob figures with rico. there's certainly some irony here. is there -- with rico cases, don't they usually go for like the low hanging fruit in the hope and really hit them hard,
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in the hopes that they will turn on people higher up the chain? is there any chance that giuliani would do that? >> well, that's possible. what they do is they take the predicate acts, which are other criminal activity, and charge them against the organization that they -- that is part of the conspiracy, and that would be the campaign and all those who worked with the campaign, and they would sweep them all in. now, often because there are much higher penalties on these rico cases, you get people that rudy's very used to doing and squeezing and getting them to help. i don't know if he's willing to do that, but i don't think he wants to spend his retiring years in a georgia prison either. >> but we also know that a number of the fake electors have been told that they were targets themselves, and giuliani's lawyer said to me today, you know, they were all told that they were targets. we kept asking. we asked about half a dozen
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times. they wouldn't tell us if we were a target, and now we discovered two days before the hearing that suddenly we're a target. i mean, they have no responsibility to tell him way in advance, but that should have been a really big hint: >> yeah, gloria borger, john dean, george conway, thanks so much. appreciate it. next, more on the threats to the fbi in the wake of the mar-a-lago search, a former homeland security secretary joins us. later, congresswoman liz cheney on the eve of her primary, the foremost republican investigator is facing from republican voters. before treating your chronic migraine—
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today's justice department request to keep a lid on any further disclosures about the mar-a-lago serge is fascinating in what it suggests about where the investigation might lead. fortunately, we already know where it's led when it comes to threats against the fbi. they've grown sharply, and last week included an attempt to kill agents in cincinnati. today charges were unsealed against a pennsylvania man who
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allegedly wrote online that he was willing to die in order to harm as many fbi agents as possible. there's that, there's the former president continuing to incite anger at the bureau and more. i'm going to talk to a former secretary of homeland security, first cnn's jessica schneider. what is the latest? >> reporter: anderson, we saw the doj in a court filing today, and they are arguing forcefully against the public release of that affidavit. this is actually what provided the basis for the search warrant that media companies including cnn, are arguing to unseal, but federal investigators, they're telling the judge in this filing just how detrimental releasing it would actually be for their ongoing investigation. and really crucially here, anderson, doj has disclosed a major detail in this filing, and it's that prosecutors have actually talked to more than one witness in the course of this classified material investigation. meaning, you know, there may have been more than one person who tipped them off that classified material was still at mar-a-lago up until the search last week. so in this filing as well, doj
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is telling this judge that if this affidavit is unsealed right now, it would really compromise the entire investigation. it would have, you know, this negative effect on witnesses who already have agreed or who maybe will agree in the future to cooperate. so really here the doj saying the stakes to keep this affidavit sealed are high, and it's really clear at this point that the criminal investigation into classified material is ongoing. you know, meaning people are still talking to the doj and that prosecutors continue to dig on this and probably other things as well, anderson. >> what's the former president now saying about this? >> yeah, so he -- trump gave a print interview for fox news's digital site today, and he said a number of things, but he said that his reps reached out to the justice department to offer help in what he said would be tamping down the outrage in this country. you know, the former president said, you know, the temperature has to be brought down. trump in this interview says he hasn't heard back from the doj.
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you know, but that's likely because officials have already been quite clear that it's trump's rhetoric that's driving really many of these threats against law enforcement. you know, we've seen threats in particular against those two special agents whose names were revealed by breitbart after trump's team provided that conservative outlet with the unredacted copies of the search warrant. you know, so while trump is saying -- telling fox that the country's in this very dangerous position, it really -- at this point it is the former president who has stirred up a lot of this dangerous sentiment we're seeing boil over here. >> even in this fox interview as we said at the top of the broadcast. he says that on the one hand and on the other hand he still continues to stir the pot on this and not try to ratchet up the rhetoric. now from janet napolitano who served as department of homeland security secretary. appreciate you joining us. when you look at the number and the specificity of these threats to federal officials and their families including that threat to places so-called dirty bombed
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in front of the fbi headquarters, i'm wondering what your reaction is. have you seen anything like this? >> well, i think we all ought to be quite concerned because, as we have seen develop over time and particularly during the last few years, words are quickly being turned over into actual violent actions, and so, you know, the men and women in law enforcement in our country, men and women of the fbi, i've worked with many of them over the years. they are very dedicated professional individuals, and to have them at risk at all is -- it's really appalling. i can't think of another word for it. it's just appalling. >> a pennsylvania man was arrested for violent threats against the fbi on a social media network. when it comes to social media, does it make it easier to identify threats? because they're making them in public. or is it more difficult because it's hard to tell who's serious and who isn't?
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>> well, i think in terms of how you go from what is posted on social media to actually going and doing a conversation with an individual who did the posting, the problem is there's so much of it now that that's an additional burden on law enforcement to kind of track down who's putting these posts out there and ascertaining whether they are a serious threat or not. >> it's not just, you know, people on social media. i mean, there are members -- there are elected members of congress who have been calling for, you know, defunding the fbi, you know, destroying the f fbi. to have this coming from, i mean, lindsey graham was on fox the other -- i don't know, several nights ago, and the host was saying that the fbi is, you know, planting evidence and routinely does this, and he was sitting there kind of nodding along, not objecting to any of
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this. he's on the judiciary committee. >> yeah, i mean the defund the fbi, that's just ridiculous. the fbi is the nation's premier federal law enforcement agency, and they workda day in and day t to protect the men and women of this country. and throughout the federal law enforcement world, and also state and local law enforcement. they get wrapped up into this as well, so i think, you know, particularly for those members of congress, those who hold elected office, they knneed to take a step back, take a deep breath and really recognize the harm that they are causing to the law enforcement operations of the united states. >> you're not only a former head of the department of homeland security, you're also served as attorney general e of arizona. have you heard anything that makes you think the search of the former president's residence
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was not lawfully carried out? >> no. from what i can tell -- and i was a former u.s. attorney for arizona as well and i worked with merrick garland at that time, and for a search of this type to be conducted, i have every assurance that every i was dotted and t was crossed. they're not messing around this with with one. >> you're also the former governor of arizona, which obviously has swung for a democrat in the last presidential election for the first time since '96. arizona's go nominees for governor and u.s. senate and arizona secretary of state, they're all promoters of the president's lies that the 2020 election was fraudulent. do you think enough is being done to secure our election systems with the midterms just three months away? >> right. well, you know, as we know, every election system is managed at the state and local level, but i can say with confidence that the arizona election system
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has been run very well by republicans and by democrats for decades, and so to have a cast of nominees in arizona who are all election deniers and fraudsters and all the rest is disappointing to say the least. >> yeah, janet napolitano, appreciate your time tonight, thank you. >> you bet. coming up, liz cheney facing voters in wyoming tomorrow. can she survive a trump-backed challenger? cnn's jeff zeleny is there. what republican voters are saying next. so does carvana's customer advocatete caitlin picking up his car at promptly 10am. hi, are you roger? berglund. with the honda accord? yes i am. it's right over there. will i be getting? and he loves that caitlin pays him on the spot. yep, rog. it's the little things that drive you happy. we'll drive you happy at carvana. it's true.
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ten house republicans voted for the former president's impeachment, four of them are ret retiring, three lost their race and then there's liz cheney. the vice chair of the january 6th house select committee, she is facing republican voters in wyoming's primary tomorrow, and certainly has an uphill fight against a candidate endorsed by the former president. our jeff zeleny is in wyoming talking with voters there. >> we have to set aside partisan differences and understand that there's something much bigger at stake hear. >> reporter: on the eve of the wyoming primary, liz cheney is in an uphill fight to hold her congressional seat, even as she begins eyeing the next steps in a bigger battle ahead. >> many people will come up to me and say i never voted for you
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before but i'm going to do it this time, and i say great, and let's keep that going. >> reporter: a republican from one of the state's most storied political families, cheney has become a pariah in her own party, and she's turning to democrats and independents for a last minute lifeline. >> i never thought i'd vote for a cheney, but she has earned my respec respect. >> reporter: annette langley says she's a proud democrat, but she stood in line to change parties and vote republican. >> she might not win, but she needs as much support as possible for doing what she's doing. >> reporter: the odds are long, considering how former president donald trump's shadow looms large in wyoming where the state's rolling summer beauty has been punctuated by a scorching political campaign between cheney and hairrr harriet hagaman. >> if the crossover vote doesn't save cheney, her admirers hope it could help avoid an embarrassing blowout that trump would revel in.
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>> liz, you're fired. get out of here. >> reporter: mike sullivan is a former democratic governor of wyoming who served three decades ago. >> wyoming, always a trailblazer. >> reporter: he planted a cheney sign in his front yard to send a message for democracy and the rule of law. >> without regard to her politics, she has reflected herself as a leader. i think history will prove her and the legacy that she leaves will be a very impressive and important one. >> reporter: joe mcginley a former gop county chairman in casper says he believes some republicans are afraid to admit their support for cheney, fearing the wrath from trump and h his loyalists. >> there's lots of people out there supporting cheney that are afraid to speak up. >> others are down right disappointed in her. >> that whole impeachment and january 6th hearing thing, she probably would have been all right. but i don't think she's going to be able to recover from that
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myself, from what i can see. >> reporter: the outcome of tuesday's primary will make clear whether a hidden cheney vote hits or if republicans reward her from not changing her positions in the face of a brutal campaign. >> i will never violate my oath of office, if you're looking for somebody who will, you need to vote for somebody else on this stage. >> these days cheney is hard to finds outside of friendly audiences at house parties. she told cnn last month she was well aware of the headwinds facing her. >> i don't intend to lose, but some things are more important than any individual office or political campaign. >> jeff zeleny joins us now from jackson, wyoming, if she falls short tomorrow in the primary, what's next? >> reporter: well, anderson, the next thing is back to the hearings, the january 6th hearings will rahm in esume in september. she still has that congressional
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seat until early january, but i am told her speech tomorrow evening if she does fall short is going to offer a road map for the next steps for liz cheney. her advisers tell me she's going to remain very much involved in the fight ahead. of course that would mean her central focus has been, as she said, trying to keep donald trump out of the oval office again. so we do not know if she will actually come out and say she plans to run in 2024, but look for a bit of some guidance, i'm told, about what her next steps are, likely forming some type of a group externally to help other republican candidates. the bottom line is this is definitely not the end of her career if she falls short tomorrow, but the beginning of a very new chapter. >> yeah. >> anderson. >> interesting chapter, no doubt. jeff zeleny, thanks. coming up, afghanistan, one year after the taliban returned to power. it's already been a year. clarissa ward was in kabul the day they took back the capital. she is back there tonight. a live report on what life is like there now for women, children, and the millions facing hunger there, next.
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it was one year ago today that the taliban entered kabul and the flag at the u.s. embassy came down. the taliban had completed their return to power two decades after the u.s. invasion following the attacks on 9/11. it was a terrifying day for many people who were there as the security situation deteriorated at the airport, the pentagon had to double the number of troops.
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afghans fearing repercussions from the taliban rushed to the airport desperate to get out. amid the chaos at the airport over the coming days, there was fear of terrorist attacks, and 11 days later it happened, 13 u.s. service members and about 170 afghans were killed. cnn's clarissa ward was in kabul when the taliban returned, and tonight she is back in afghanistan. the country facing a whole slew of challenges now that the taliban's taken charge. >> reporter: it's a three-hour journey from shaquila's home to the center of kabul, but each morning she and other women make this walk, driven by hunger and the need to feed their children. their destination is this bakery, one of many across the capital where crowds of women now sit patiently every day, quietly hoping for handouts. >> so all the women have been
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pressing pieces of paper with their phone numbers into our hands, they're desperately hoping that maybe we can help them. >> shaquila tells us on a good day, they might get two or three pieces of bread. every morsel counts. >> were you doing this a year ago, or has the situation become worse in the last year? >> there's no work this year she says. my husband has a cart, but now he only earns $0.30 to $0.40 a day. one year after the taliban took power, afghanistan is isolated and increasingly impoverished. largely cut off from the global banking system and the foreign aid that once funded almost 80% of this country's budget. it is also unmistakably safer, one thing the taliban has been able to improve is security. outside kabul's airport, shops
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are open and the streets are calm. >> excuse me. cover my face? >> a far cry from the chaotic scenes we witnessed last summer. he told me to cover my face, but he doesn't want to comment on that truncheon he's carrying. >> reporter: tens of thousands risked life and limb to try to flee the country. >> stay behind him, stay behind him. >> reporter: many feared for their lives, others that the taliban would take the country back to the middle ages. for these girls, that fear has come true. they were just a year out from graduating when the taliban announced a de facto ban on girls secondary education after sixth grade. now they have improvised ways to defy the ban, setting up unofficial schools where they continue their studies.
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naheed's dreams of a diploma may have vanished but her drive has not. >> i always say to myself, i am so powerful and so strong, and these things can't bring an end to my dreams and what i want to do. >> do you ever feel scared? >> yes, it's a risk for us that we don't cover our face and we study our lessons. >> you're very brave. >> yeah, i know. >> reporter: girls' education is one of the main reasons no country in the world has yet recognized the taliban government, a appoint we put to foreign ministry spokesman. >> when will the taliban allow teenage girls to go back to school? >> from the perspective of the government, there's a range of mix of issues that has led to
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the temporary suspension of secondary schools. the most important and significant part of this is that the policy of the government of afghanistan is education for all citizens of afghanistan. >> and yet all citizens of afghanistan are not currently able to get an education. what is the holdup? >> it seems that international actors are unfortunately weaponizing the issue of education instead of coming forward and interacting positively, they are trying to find moral justifications for some of the inhumane policies of sanctions, which is leading to the collective punishment of the entire people of afghanistan. >> do you want to see girls going to school again? >> the policy of the government of afghanistan is very clear, and that is education for all citizens of afghanistan. >> reporter: the taliban says it
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wants to see peaceful and positive relations with all countries, including the u.s., but those prospects were dramatically diminished when the head of al qaeda was killed by a u.s. drone strike in a villa in downtown kabul just over two weeks ago. >> we've made it very clear that the government of afghanistan was unaware of the arrival or presence of mr. zawahadi in kabul. so far we have been unable to establish as a matter of fact that he was indeed present in kabul. >> isn't this almost more frightening, though, the idea that you're claiming potentially the leader of al qaeda was here in the center of the city and you didn't even know about it? >> we contend that notion that he was even present here, but even if he was, these types of incidents happen everywhere in the world. >> but they really don't. i mean, how can the u.s.
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possibly trust the taliban leadership, though, to stay true to its promise that it will not allow sanctuary be granted to terrorist groups? >> if we look at the doha agreement, the articles that are -- that define the commitments of the government of afghanistan, all of them have been fulfilled, and if we look at the commitments that the united states of america has made, sadly, they have not fulfilled a single article, but we're hopeful and we continue to urge the united states to adhere to that agreement. >> it's a brazen position that complicates efforts to unfreeze funding to help the afghan people, millions of whom remain hungry and reliant on the kindness of strangers. >> and clarissa joins us now from kabul. i mean, it's so heartbreaking to see that young woman who you
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interviewed who's so strong and brave and, you know, still learning and the arguments from the spokesman, they make no sense, i mean, that they want everybody to go to school, but for some reason girls are the only ones who can't. >> reporter: and i think the real frustration, anderson, is that we pressed him repeatedly, even beyond what you just saw in the piece as to why exactly girls can't go to school? what are the issues? because everybody is willing to help out here in the international community, western countries, eastern countries. do they need buses? do they need uniforms? is it an issue of the curriculum, and there is no specific answer being given as to what the holdup is. we've spoken to several sources, though, who tell us that even within the taliban, the vast majority of their leaders do want to see girls going to school. but there is some kind of a holdup because of certain hard-liners are just entrenched in their very antiquated views on this subject, and because the group only wants to show it as
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having a face of complete consensus, they are lagging behind on this, but they are feeling the pressure, and for those girls, though, anderson, as you said, it doesn't look good. there is no imminent prospect that there's going to be a major change on this front. >> what's happened to the people who helped the u.s. military who were then left in afghanistan after the u.s. withdrew? >> reporter: i mean, they're everywhere. there's tens of thousands of them. according to the state department, nearly 160,000 afghans are eligible to apply for the siv, the special immigrant visa, and the u.s. understandably is completely snowed under. they're being processed at a glacial rate in part because of bureaucratic issues. the interviews that were necessary would have taken place at the u.s. embassy here in kabul. obviously that's not possible anymore, and people who are trapped here can't get to a third country to do those interviews. the state department saying they might not even be able to
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process all these visa applications by the end of president biden's term, but i can't stress enough, anderson, we get phone calls and messages from people all the time. and even today when we were out in the middle of the city during a sort of taliban celebration, a man came up to me. he said i don't really feel comfortable talking to you here, but this is my name. this is my phone number. i used to be an interpreter for the u.s. military, and i desperately need your help, and the frustration for us, of course, is that we can't help. it's a very difficult process. >> clarissa ward, i'm so glad you're there. thank you very much. up next, the latest on author salman rushdie's condition following friday's brutal attack. the reaction to it across the globe. i got tai last december. i've spent almost every minute with her since. when i first brought her home, she was eating little brown pieces in a bag
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tonight author salman rushdie is recovering from an attack in upstate new york friday that left him with several severe injuries. he was able to be taken off a ventilator over the weekend, but is still being treated for stab wounds and other.
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joining me now, shimon prokupecz. what more do we know now? >> he is doing okay. he is speaking with investigators. they've been able to ask him question. the key here is the suspect, hadi matar, who he is is something investigators are trying to figure out. was someone behind this? was he motivated by someone to conduct this attack. he's only 24 years old, so there's some concern someone was directing him, someone overseas. and that is something the fbi is look at, and that is why they're involved in this investigation. there are national security with this, something very concerning for u.s. officials. >> there's been reaction from u.s. state department but also iran. >> iran is essentially the foreign ministry releasing a statement say thag didn't direct this attack, but they're kind of blaming him for this. they're blaming him and his supporters for this attack. the state department also coming out today blasting that kind of response from the iranian
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officials, saying that it's despicable. and they're also saying that the iranians have been gloating over this attack, happy over this attack. so, they're raising all kinds of concerns. but the bottom line right now for the fbi and certainly u.s. officials is to see if someone else was perhaps behind this attack. >> shimon prokupecz, appreciate it. thank you. carl nassib, the first active nfl player to announce he is guy is making a return to a familiar team. details next. that's decision tech. only from fidelity.
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-- captions by vitac -- carl nassib, the first active nfl player to announce he is gay, tells cnn he has signed a deal to play for the tampa bay buccaneers. he reached a one-year deal with the team. he previously played with the buccaneers in 2018 and 2019. he recently played with the las vegas raiders but was released last year. last year he joined me saying he is waiting for the opportunity to join the best team. go to for any of the major platforms. that's it for us. the news continues right now. i want to hand it over to alison cam riotta and "cnn tonight." >> thank you very much. i'm alisyn camerota, this is "cnn tonight." a week after the removal of 11 classified sets of documents from mar-a-lago, some labelled top secret, there is more intrigue about what information
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was being stored in donald trump's basement and why. the department of justice says it opposes the release of the affidavit behind the search warrant. that's the document where prosecutors lay out in detail their probable cause to believe a crime was committed and why they thought they would find evidence at the former president's home. in a new filing, the doj writes, quote, disclosure at this juncture of the affidavit supporting probable cause would cause significant and irrepairable damage to this ongoing criminal investigation. it contains highly sensitive information about witnesses, specific investigative techniques and information required by law to be kept under seal. if disclosed, the affidavit would serve as a roadmap to the government's ongoing investigation. okay. that's new information. there are three key take aways in this filing. number one, they say there's an ongoing criminal investigation. in other words, this is more than just a retrieval of sensitive documents. number two, they say, quote, revelation of witnes