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thank you for joining me this saturday. i'm fredricka whitfield. we begin this hour with officials in new york city announcing plans to address the influx of asylum seekers arriving from texas. new york expects at least 1,000 children will enter the city's school system this year. they are among the thousands sent there by bus from the lone star state at the direction of governor greg abbott. but this week the governor doubled down on his decision. >> before we begin busing illegal immigrants up to new york, it was just texas and arizona that bore the brunt of all of the chaos and all the problems that come with it. now the rest of america is understanding exactly what is going on. >> cnn's jean casarez is following this for us from new york. jean, how is new york responding and what is the plan? >> reporter: well, there is a plan and it's called open arms. it really facilitates what new yorkers feel about having them

come from texas. here's what happens. the bus, as you see right there, goes to the port authority in new york city, which is really the bus terminal of new york city. they are greeted when they get off the bus. they are taken to get as much clothes as they want to right there in port authority. they then get school supplies, as many as they might need. they get toiletries. the next step is housing. a bidding process is going on right here in new york city for hotels to actually house these people all over new york city. there are also some shelters. so they're facilitating the sheltering aspect and they want it close to schools so that there is close proximity as the children do go to school. i want you to listen right now to the chancellor of the new york city department of education. >> already our incredible public school staff are stepping up. working tirelessly to ensure a smooth transition for these new

students with minimal disruption in their education. >> as more families arrive, we will be prepared to support their needs and quickly enroll them in school so that we are doing everything we can to preserve stability for them as they focus on their education. >> reporter: the reality here, since may there have been 6,000 migrants that have come to new york city. 600 of them in the last three weeks. there are, as you said, fredricka, about a thousand children that will be entering the school at this point. but we are just on august 20th right now. kindergarten through eighth grade is what they're seeing. now here's a little bit more of the reality. they do not have enough bi bilingual teachers in the area so new york city is working with the government of the admin con r -- dominican republic to bring

in spanish speaking teachers to new york city. and they are asking over and over again to the federal government that they want money pause they believe they should be compensated for doing all this. one last thing, the migrants were processed through federal authorities in texas and now they are allowed to move wherever they want to in the country as they are, but there will be federal immigration court dates that they will on their own go to, conceivably where they live and their children are going to school. >> jean casarez in new york painting a very detailed picture for us. thank you. so we've also heard a lot from politicians about texas governor abbott's decision to bus asylum seekers out of state. we've heard much less from the migrants on board those buses. cnn's gary tuchman spoke with some of those families. >> reporter: these migrants at this shelter in eagle pass, texas, most from venezuela, have all just crossed the rio grande from mexico into texas,

surrendered to the u.s. border patrol, received future immigration court dates. and some are about to board this bus for a 1700-mile trip to washington, d.c. a plan started by the texas governor in april. some people say it's cruel. but this story may not be what you expect. listen to these migrants, like 28-year-old genesis figueroa from venezuela. >> are you taking the bus to washington, d.c.? today yes. >> si. >> are you happy? >> si, si. >> reporter: listen to those who advocate for the migrants. >> they want to go on these buses. this is the executive director of an organization that serves this border community in eagle pass and operates the shelter for the recent arrivals. she's aware of the political components of the long bus rides, but says many of these people want to go to washington or new york. the two locations where the texas state buses are going.

>> and you're saying no one is being forced to go on these buses. >> no one is being forced. >> they go because they want to. >> yes. >> a free ride to new york or washington. >> mm-hmm. >> reporter: hundreds of people come to this shelter each day. the people who work here face an average of 500 people daily. many of these people have family in the united states, family with money. in no time at all they'll be in their family's hometowns. other people have no family, have absolutely no idea where they're going to go next. genesis figueroa has no family in the united states but she traveled a month and a half by foot, bus and boat to get here. she says i got very tired, my legs hurt and i got sick. i came down with pneumonia. i was hospitalized for three days in guatemala. genesis says she does have friends in washington, so she says she and her husband are happy to take the washington bus. >> washington is 40 hours. much time. >> reporter: she says we've been on the road for so long, we

don't mind two or three more days. cousins luis and took six weeks to get here and then something horrible happened. luis says we left in search of a dream but now it's a very difficult hard situation because this trip took my brother's life. tragically luis' younger brother juan disappeared while swimming across the rio grande. shelter officials just informed him juan's body was found. he drowned. the cousins said they will go ahead with their plans and take the washington bus. >> chicago. >> reporter: luis says our destination is chicago, but adds they will get off the bus along the route in kentucky and relatives will pick them up there. the executive director here confirms the buses have indeed let off passengers along the way once they get out of texas. the time has come for the bus to leave. genesis figueroa gets processed by members of the texas state guard and so do the cousins. and then 41 men, women and

children come out in the blazing son to board the bus for the 40-hour ride. genesis says she's ready. she says she hopes to support her family back at venezuela by cleaning, cooking or doing office work. luis and iner would like to help their families by working in the restaurant business. the bus pulls away. each passenger we talked to saying they appreciate getting the air conditioned bus ride to what they hope is a much better road ahead. gary tuchman, cnn, eagle pass, texas. all right. i want to bring in now monsignor kevin sullivan, the executive director of catholic charities of the archdiocese of new york. so good to see you. >> thank you very much for having me. >> so your organization is helping the migrants when they arrive. how are you able to meet their needs? >> well, we're straining. but this is what we do. we've seen in our own offices in

new york in the past six weeks or so probably about 1800 individuals who have been arriving in new york. it is a strain. we do have a crisis. but this is what we do at catholic charities and quite frankly this is what we do as new yorkers. we welcome people here. to the best of our ability we assure them that they are welcome. we treat them with dignity and respect. and we try to get them the help that they need in order to make it in this setting. >> and when they get off the bus, what are some of the things they are expressing that they need? i realize you are assisting in shelter and food and clothes just like the city of new york is doing, but to what extent are you able to help them when they say these are the things that i'm in need of? >> well, it should not come as a surprise, although it may. one of the first things they ask us is a job.

where can i work? because there are two parts to those who we're seeing and most of them are young men from venezuela, although there are families also and a few from other countries. but two parts to it. one, they don't really want to come to the united states, but they're forced to because of the dangerous situation in venezuela. there are over 6 million refugees in venezuela. so they're being forced because of the of the fear, the persecution, the violence there. so that's the negative why they're coming. the positive is because they do see the united states and they see new york as the opportunity, a place where they can get a job. if they have family back in venezuela, to probably provide for them back there. and so that's what we're seeing. we're seeing the fear of where they are leaving, the need for them to flee and seek safety here, and also the hope and the opportunity that they are going

to make it here and add to the vibrancy and the economy of new york. >> and by now you probably heard what texas governor has said. arizona and texas bear the brunt of this with migrants coming across the border, and so it sounds like he is vowing to continue to bus people to new york city and other places. so for how long do you believe catholic charities is able to help keep up with the demand? >> we are strained already. our workers have sacrificed. our resources are not without limit. we're going to do the best we can for as long as we can. however, this is not new york's problem, it's not texas' problem, it's not arizona's problem. this is a national problem. and we need a national, a federal response to what has been for decades a broken immigration system. so we need the federal government to step up and to

deal with a national problem. we can't just solve it in texas, new york, or in arizona. we need to respond as a nation. >> so in the meantime, as we heard from many of the migrants who were in gary tuchman's piece, there is the emotional trauma that comes with the journey. in the case of the one young man who lost his brother who drowned while trying to cross the river. how are you able to assist in the meantime before there is a federal program that you are suggesting or a more expansive federal way to address this, how are you able to help with the emotional trauma that many of these people are arriving with? >> the first thing we do is when we welcome them, we treat them with respect, compassion, tell them they're welcome here, that they are safe here. that's the first step. but we know that for many of them, there is need for some

professional mental health services. we don't do that on the first day, the first week. but as we continue to work with those migrants, that's something that has to be part of the way that we respond to the trauma that they have experienced. >> and then for the children, while new york is saying it's trying to work to get many of them in school, what kind of assistance can you offer them? >> well, we -- first of all, we have had a wonderful partnership with new york city. new york city has said we're welcoming people. so catholic charities has been collaborating. we're doing our part as a nonprofit organization. the city is doing its job as a government agency. yeah, there are glitches, but there is the openness to doing the right thing. you know, we are working with the families with children to

say, hey, school is only a couple of weeks away. you have to get them in. we're also saying, hey, the public school system is there, but if it's appropriate we'll help you to get into one of the catholic schools that is here too. so education is a high priority for our workers in making sure that the families with school-age children get into school so that they don't lose a year of education. >> monsignor, i'm asking you about all the things that catholic charities is doing, and i'm wondering what are some of the things that people can do to assist catholic charities? >> well, obviously you go to our website, we're expending our private resources. we have generous donors. with the increase, we need more resources, yes. i agree we do need resources from the federal government to step up to the plate without a doubt. we also need private donations to fill in those things that are

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time the speaker's plane landed in taiwan. we had a very spirited, i would say quite contentious meeting. the central issue is that the government in china overreacted, did so in a way clearly designed to intimidate and coerce the taiwan authorities. >> reporter: beijing claims their response was justified in order to defend its sovereignty. >> after the visit china said it was going to cut communications with the u.s. on a number of key areas. how damaging is that not just to bilateral relations but to the world? >> it's very damaging. our government in washington has been talking to the chinese embassy in washington, but there's no substitute for cabinet level senior conversations. the chinese have largely shut those down. >> when we look at this event 20 years from now, are we going to see that pelosi moment that fundamentally changed u.s./china relations? >> we do not believe there should be a crisis, a manufactured crisis by the government in beijing.

>> reporter: russia's war in ukraine has raised fears that taiwan could also suffer an invasion by its more powerful neighbor. >> what lessons do you think beijing has learned from the war in ukraine, and how might it be applied to taiwan? >> i think the chinese authorities here know that the united states is watching china very carefully as it conducts its relationship with russia. in the meantime, we have been disturbed by what the chinese government is telling its own people. beijing has been blaming the war in ukraine on the united states, on nato. these are completely specious and inaccurate arguments. >> reporter: u.s./china relations are at the lowest point in decades. mistrust is rampant on both sides of the pacific. >> what are you transmitting to washington about your key observations or about a reality check on what's actually possible when it comes to engagement? >> we have a difficult, competitive relationship with china. but you have to show up at the negotiating table. one of the messages that i would

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have to testify next week before a grand jury investigating efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election in georgia. the staunch ally of former president trump has been fighting a subpoena in court, but a judge has ruled he must testify. cnn's sara murray has more. >> reporter: south carolina senator lindsey graham is still keeping up the fight trying to get out of having to appear on tuesday before a georgia grand jury that's investigating efforts to overturn the 2020 election in the state. a federal judge already told lindsey graham she was not going to quash his subpoena. graham went back and said could you stay your decision and put pause on this because i'm planning to appeal. the judge got back to him on friday saying senator graham raises a number of arguments as to why he is likely to succeed on the merits, but they are all unpersuasive. now, graham does have one other iron in the fire. he also filed with an appeals court saying he plans to file his appeal and asking that court to put a stay, again, essentially to pause his

required tuesday appearance while this appeal plays out. we are still waiting to see what the appeals court says about this. the district attorney who's investigating all of this in georgia, her office has said that graham is a crucial witness. they are particularly interested in a phone call that graham had with georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger. raffensperger came away from the call feeling like the senate was asking him to throw away ba ballots. we'll see if he has to appear before that grand jury on tuesday. sara murray, cnn, washington. let's talk more about all of this now. i want to bring in michael zeldin, host of "that said with michael zeldin" podcast. good to see you. so senator lindsey graham still fighting to stay out of court and testify in georgia. are you convinced that he will testify as scheduled on tuesday? >> i believe he should testify. what the fight is about is the

speech and debate clause of the constitution which provides that if your activities during your legislative work are something that the judiciary wants to hear about, you can be prevented from having to be called there. he's saying that these phone calls that he made to georgia and other calls that he may have made to other people is part of his legislative work. the court said, no, it's not. this is separate from legislation and, therefore, you have to appear. and so that's the fight. the judge has looked at the speech and debate clause. we saw this, fred, in the case of menendez in new jersey where he tried to do the same thing when he was charged with bribery in connection with his lobbying activities. the court said no, no, no, that's not legislative activity, that's something separate. so we'll see what the court of appeals says. but he should lose this case. >> and in that court filing on friday, prosecutors argued that graham's testimony is crucial to their investigation, saying it's, quoting now, not simply because he possesses necessary

and material information but also because he is expected to provide information regarding additional sources of relevant information. so given the wording there, do you think prosecutors' case hinges on his testimony? >> no, i don't say hinges, but i say his testimony is critical to the prosecutor's understanding of the scope of the activities that were undertaken in georgia, both by former president trump and lindsey graham and others. what was it that was going on? who was speaking to whom? what were they trying to accomplish? and whether or not that was criminal is what's at the heart of the matter, and that's what lindsey graham can offer insight into and that's why his testimony is needed. >> and it's an opportunity, right, for a very specific question to him, which was who gave you the directive to call the georgia secretary of state to talk about the 2020 election.

the feeling is how he answers that question could also help advance the investigation? >> for sure. if he were to answer that question without taking the fifth amendment or some other executive privilege or other type of defense, none of which should be availing, if he were to answer that question, he could say yes, i spoke to former president trump or then president trump at the time and we concluded that we needed to call georgia for this purpose and that would be very insightful for the prosecutors. >> and we have never learned that that conversation was recorded. we do know what was recorded was the secretary of state's conversation with the former president where he said find the votes. could it be that that conversation with lindsey graham was recorded and perhaps we just don't know it yet? would that be revealed in the early stages of this case?

>> i would be surprised if the conversation between graham and trump was recorded. but we know there was a call between graham and raffensperger, the secretary of state of georgia. i don't know whether -- i don't remember whether that was recorded but there are people with very specific recollections of what graham was asking. their recollection is like the trump call, he was asking them to find votes to overturn what was the will of the georgian voters. so i don't know that we'll find another audio tape of that, but you have witnesses who were parties to that call telling them what they heard. >> and then there's the ongoing doj investigation of classified documents at former president trump's home in florida. a document unsealed on thursday provided new details about the focus of the investigation, including the willful retention of national defense information.

how critical is that in your view? >> well, i think it's a very serious charge. if the thought is that the former president knowingly kept national security documents with him, documents that had to be retained in the highest classification facilities, if he knowingly did that or was negligent, grossly negligent in his handling of those documents, that violates statutes. if he was asked specifically for any document and he said he didn't have it when he actually had it, that would be relevant to obstruction. so there are a couple of things going on here that we just don't know the answer to. but one thing that is clear is that the president was very haphazard throughout his presidency in handling classified documents, and he appears to have been even more haphazard in packing them up at the end of his presidency that he didn't think really should

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federal penitentiary in west virginia. bulger was 89 at the time that he died. hours earlier he had been transferred to the west virginia facility from a prison in florida. his death immediately raising questions about the transfer and about why the high-profile inmate was in with the prison's general population. the three men charged, two of them are accused of hitting him repeatedly on the head, causing bulger's death. all three face a charge of conspiracy to commit first-degree murder. one remains at hazelton today. another is still in the federal prison system. the third suspect was under supervised federal release in florida at the time of his arrest earlier this week. whitey bulger, of course, was the infamous mob boss who led the winter hill gang in the '70s and '80s. he was on the run from authorities for nearly 16 years, appearing on the fbi's most wanted list before he was captured in 2011 and sentenced to two life terms. in light of the federal

indictment, the u.s. attorney in boston is now speaking out on behalf of the families of bulger's victims. she put out a statement standing in solidarity with them in light of the recent news, and also added this to the statement. she writes in the truest of ironies, bulger's family has experienced the excruciating pain and trauma their relative inflicted on far too many and the justice system is now coming to their aid. back to you. >> alexandra field, thanks so much. let's bring in john red shea, a former mobster in whitey bulger's gang and the author of the memoir "rat bastards, the south boston irish mobster who took the rap when everyone else ran." john, so good to see you. you worked for bulger for years, even serving more than a decade in prison for your role in the winter hill gang in south boston. so your reaction when you found out that the men accused of killing your former boss had

been charged with this crime? >> well, first of all, thank you for having me on today. my reaction was this, is that i've always said that his justice should come from his peers, if you will. and obviously that has happened. and he got his justice as he's given so many other. and what's so ironic to me is that it's amazing how everyone is so concerned about the death of a killer. i don't understand why there would be so much news about the death of an informant killer. go ahead. >> well, i'm wondering, do you find it fascinating that i mean not long ago, in an interview that you did on cnn, you kind of made a prediction that, you know, if bulger were to be in

the general population-type prison, then something like what happened would happen. so you predicted his demise if he were to be vulnerable, i guess, you know, in a general populous. that's what happened. and in a matter of hours after him being transferred, that he would be killed. i mean is it your feeling that the three that killed him, it was part of, i guess, a bigger plan to take him out? i guess people on the inside would ultimately take him out but in prison? >> well, first of all, let me start off by saying the three men that have been charged, they're innocent until proven guilty. >> sure. >> so i'm not going to speculate

and they they have actually done this because we don't know that. we don't know that these men are the ones that actually did that. >> it's interesting that you're skeptical about that. >> i'm not skeptical, i just tell it like it is. in this country, we're innocent until proven guilty. >> true. >> but i will say this. from what they have said about his actions in the former place that he was at and how he was acting up and stuff like that, it was almost like he wanted to go into population and he wanted to face his peers and he wanted to leave this earth, to be honest with you. i think he had enough. especially at 89 years of age. and, you know, he was an informant. he didn't like being called an informant. but he was. he always wanted to be the tough guy that he was and portrayed himself to be. but in the end he was actually an informant and he got away with a lot of things because he was an informant. so that said, i just think he

wanted to go out, you know, in a gusto, if you will. >> so what does this case, whether it be his death or even his capture say about organized crime today? >> organized crime isn't what it used to be, that's for sure. it's not. >> still exists. >> i don't think anything is like it used to be. i don't think anything is like it used to be. i mean today we have so many surveillance devices and dna and stuff like that. and getting back to that innocence until proven guilty, you've had a lot of people with dna cases where they have been found guilty and then later on released after so many years because of dna. so -- >> all right. fascinating. fascinating talking with you, john "red" shea, thanks for your time. i appreciate it.

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all right. hello again, everyone. thank you so much for joining me. i'm fredericka whitfield. we begin the hour with the intensifying standoff at europe's largest nuclear plant. russia and ukraine accusing each other of endangering ukraine's zaporizhzhia facility after months of occupation. russia now says it has agreed to let international nuclear inspectors into the plant. new video shows russian military trucks inside the facility amid ongoing fighting outside. russia claims ukraine has been repeatedly shelling the area around the plant. but satellite images seen by cnn don't support those claims. cnn's sam kiley is in zaporizhzhia. sam, how volatile is this situation? >> reporter: it's extremely volatile in that it is an ongoing battle front. we