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life that maybe hadn't been to the theater and don't know that side who said, who's this girl they're talking about? so, then i -- you know, it actually widened my audience and ended up being a great thing. now it's fun to just laugh about. have you ever messed up somebody's name that badly? >> yeah, but not at the oscars and maybe not quite that badly. >> you can watch my conoverization with eye idina menzel and the sit down with former house speaker nancy pelosi here on cnn next sunday night. and you can stream the full episode with this week's guests, ina garten and andy cohen any time you want on hbo max. thank you for watching. thank you for watching. good night. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com georgia bulldogs player,
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willock died at the scene. >> it's an apocalyptic scene we're seeing at this site, what was a residential building in ni dnipro. with every second that passes, chances of finding anybody alive are dwindling. the flight lost contact with the air traffic control, and moments later, it crashed into a gorge. president biden is here at ebenezer baptist church. >> this is a time of choosing. dr. king's life and legacy, show us the way. >> you can't ignore the political undertones, even as the conversation has been so dominated by these classified documents. i'm pamela brown in washington. you are live in the "cnn newsroom." and we begin this hour with a heartbreaking example of how quickly life can take an awful
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turn. just hours after the university of georgia held this joyous parade to celebrate their team's winning college football's national championship, one of their players is killed in a car crash. 20-year-old devin willock died at the scene. the driver, 24-year-old football staff member, chandler lecroy, died at the hospital. isabelle, how is the community reacting to this tragedy? >> reporter: pamela, this loss is a gut punch to the community. some students and fans coming out outside of the stadium here, leaving flowers and writing on this sign right behind me, 77. that was his number. here's what we know so far from the athens-clark county police department. all of this unfolding early in the morning, 2:45 a.m., where their car for some reason left the road, striking two power poles, snapping the power lines in half, and continuing on to
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hit trees, going over a small hill, and landing, crashing, and finally resting by the side of an apartment complex. willock and lecroy, they died from their injuries. two other football program members that were inside of that car, they have survived, one with minor injuries, another with serious injuries. from the football roster, we know that willock, he was from new jersey, an offensive lineman, a red shirt sophomore, and he played every game this year. and take a look at this video of the team just yesterday, hours before that crash, celebrating the national championship victory. so many people out there, fans, the student community cheering them on and this victory at a parade here in athens. i spoke with a bulldogs fan who was at that parade route and came out to pay his respects at the scene of the crash. here's what he said.
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>> hope that this team next year will just dedicate their season to this guy because he played his heart out this year. he may not have been, you know, a top athlete, like the quarterback, but he was -- it was a family. and to see the family gathering today or to hear about them gathering today as one makes bulldog nation know that they were very, very close. >> reporter: yeah, and pamela, look at this. on twitter, the grandfather of 7-year-old camden gonzalez sharing these pictures of his grandson meeting willock, fist bumping him, and the player allowing him to wear his championship ring, that massive ring on his tiny fist. he was star struck. it made his day. >> and that little boy will never forget that interaction.
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what a beautiful moment just before this tragedy. thank you. heavy windfall, wind gusts, mudslides, and snow all part of the weather system punishing california right now. flood watches remain in place for around 8 million people in the central part of the state, including the bay area, include monday afternoon. at least 19 people have died, and california's governor is warning of more weather disasters. cnn's natasha chen has more from sonoma county, california. >> reporter: pamela, we are expecting the rain to come again quite soon, but right now here is what the johnson's beach looks like right at the russian river here in gurnville. this is supposed to be a beach, as the name suggests. this is a driveway that's now completely covered. if you look past that sign right there, where it says, no life guard on duty, local residents tell us that there's actually a walkway for another 20 feet as well as an entire parking lot before you actually reach the beach. we've seen residents come up to
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the water's edge, taking pictures because one person said she's lived here 30 years, and it's just very intrigued to see the water come up this far. we also saw someone trying to kayak here. though, i'm not sure that's recommended. there are still city and county officials really warning residents to be careful of threats like mudslides like we saw in belmont yesterday. and that's on the peninsula. you can see these pictures from belmont police showing part of a hillside coming down into a neighborhood. that's the type of threat that's still very possible, given the amount of moisture that is saturated in the ground and in these rivers, with more rain coming very soon through the morning hours. we're also expecting some high wind gusts as well. there are counties south of here who have issued wind advisories. meanwhile, there are still thousands of customers without power and millions of people throughout the state under a
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flood watch. pamela, back to you. >> natasha chen, thank you very much. since last spring, tens of thousands of migrants have been sent from the texas border to cities like washington, d.c., new york, and chicago. this week end, new york mayor eric adams made a trip to the border himself, even as he issues an emergency aid request for help. he wants help from the feds too. gloria, what is the mayor saying? what else? >> well, pam, we actually just heard from the mayor. he had a press briefing, as the mayor of el paso. he is asking for coordination. this has been the consistent message from new york city mayor eric adams in the past few months. he has expressed frustration that texas and other states that are bussing migrants to new york are notochord nating with the city in order to tell them that people are coming so that migrants who are seeking asylum can be connected to the proper resources. but the crisis has really ballooned over the last few months.
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thousands of asylum seekers have been arriving here in new york city, and not just here no new york but also places like chicago and philadelphia and washington, d.c. the mayor saying that he wants to convene with other mayors from around the country to come up with a strategy to deal with what he says is a humanitarian crisis. listen to a little bit of what he had to say just a short while ago. >> i'm extremely disappointed of what we have done to the cities of this country and the impression that we're not seeing a level of urgency of getting this issue resolved. i believe that we must appoint a female leader that is going to come in and look at this and coordinate our response. it is wrong for el paso to have a response, for new york to have a response. we cannot have these disjointed responses. >> pam, as you mentioned, he has
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asked for new york state to provide funding in addition to the federal government. but today the mayor said he ultimately believes it is up to fema to cover the cost of the crisis. he says like other disasters that fema would respond to. a very tall order, considering this is a multi-city operation and the politics around all of this are heated. and the white house, the federal government, has yet to respond. pam? >> gloria paz amino, thank you. ukraine's president is pleading for more heavy weapons. and the nato secretary general says sunday they are on the way. that includes a new uk commitment to provide the first heavy tanks president zelenskyy has been asking for. on the ground in ukraine, emergency groups in dnipro are
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combing through the rubble of an apartment building destroyed by a russian missile. but they're somehow shifting from rescue to recovery mode. cnn's scott mclean is in kyiv. >> reporter: the death toll from that deadly russian missile strike is very likely to rise because officials say that there are still dozens of people, perhaps 30 or 40, who remain unaccounted for and potentially buried under the rubble. officials, though, say that their chances at this stage of survival are minimal. part of the problem is that the missile appeared to come down vertically, meaning it landed all the way in the basement of this building. so, there's no way for rescue crews to get in from the bottom of the building and work their way up to try to find any potential survivors. the other obvious issue is the fact that it is winter and ukraine, and the temperatures are below freezing. and yet despite all of that, rescue workers have managed to pull people out alive. the most recent was a
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27-year-old woman who was trapped under the rubble, though they say she is now fighting for her life in a hospital from severe hypothermia. the russian military acknowledged the barrage of missile strikes on saturday. they say that this was a success, that all of the intended targets were hit. the mayor of dnipro doesn't think the apartment building was the target. he thinks it was a thermal power station across the river, which makes sense, considering the type of missile the ukrainians say was used is not an accurate one. western military analysts say it has an accuracy radius of only about 550 yards. it is the same type of missile that was used in a missile strike on a shopping mall in cram chook last year that killed 18 people. the intended target in that case was apparently a facility a few yards away used to repair military vehicles. the biggest problem that the ukrainians have with respect to
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this weapon is that they have no way to shoot it down. of the more than 200, they say have been fired at this territory, not a single one has been shot down. pam? >> scott mclean, thank you. devastating news out of nepal. a commercial plane carrying 72 passengers crashed during a short flight from the capital. 68 of the 72 people on board are confirmed dead in what appears to be the country's worst air disaster in 30 years. the cause of this crash is not clear, but footage circulating on social media shows the twin engine turbo prop turning on its side moments before slamming into a deep gorge. nepal's government has declared monday a national public day of mourning to honor those victims. the white house is scrambling tonight after more classified documents were found at president biden's home in delaware. how serious will this become? i'll ask former republican congressman and new cnn political commentator, adam
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learn more at phoenix.edu. the fog continues tonight for president biden and the white house staff over the mishandling of classified information and lack of transparency. adam kinzinger joins us now with more. reuters says this probe, quote, has neutralized democrats' ability to target former president trump. former obama adviser david axelrod calls it a huge gift to trump. what's your take? >> yeah. i think they're right. it's a huge gift. so, there's the legal side and there's the political side. the legal side will be -- the legal side can do what it wants. they'll be fair. they'll go through, you know, the donald trump thing, the joe biden thing, and go after it the right way. politically, basically this is taken out, i think, almost any
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ability for democrats to go after the former president on this issue. still -- there is still a january 6th thing that happened, which i think is important to keep in mind. and it's really -- the other thing is that i think one of the biggest problems has been the continuing revelation of new documents. and they have not done a good job of putting together how that happened. did they happen upon it? and i think politically it's pretty bad. >> yeah, when they released the first statement talking about the batch in november, it failed to mention the second batch that was found in december. so, then reporters found out about it. they released another statement. so, there are certainly fair questions about a lack of transparency from the biden white house. let's listen to what james comer said to me in november. regarding the classified documents found at trump's residence in mar-a-lago. >> i don't know much about that. that's not something that we've
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requested information just to see what was going on because i don't know what documents were at mar-a-lago. so, you know, that's something we're just waiting to see what comes out in that. >> but is it fair to say that investigation will be a priority? >> that will not be a priority. >> okay. so, that was about trump. and now this is what he said earlier today about the biden investigation. >> at the end of the day, my biggest concern isn't the classified documents to be honest with you. my concern is how there's such a discrepancy in how former president trump was treated by raiding mar-a-lago, by getting the security cameras, by taking pictures of documents on the floor, by going through melania's closet versus joe biden, your personal lawyers who don't have security clearance, they can go through. they can just keep looking and keep looking and, you know, determine whatever's there. that's not equal treatment. >> what do you make of that?
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>> well, first off, thank you for keeping that and playing it because i think this is very important for people to see is frankly the hypocrisy that exists. and secondarily, it's a very different situation. i think a lot of people forget that mar-a-lago was raided only after repeated engagements with the government. they said, we know you have this. they know they've moved it. they said we don't have it. and that's what led to this. so, it's a different situation, but mr. comer is doing and doing quite well, if you throw in the stuff on the wall, it creates a lot of confusion. but i think the bottom line is anybody, whether you're a republican or a democrat talking about this issue, you should be consistent with what you said about donald trump as well. there are differences. you can note that. but this is one of the things that drives me and i think a lot of americans crazy is open, obvious, and almost a disregard for whether or not something you say is not consistent with what
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you say with a different party. just be consistent, uphold the law. we can't have classified information out there. and investigate donald trump and joe biden. >> right. and that was -- i remember when republicans came out so strongly defending trump at that time. it was notable. and then here you are in a situation where the same thing is happening with president biden in terms of classified documents being not where they should be, and suddenly they've had to change their tune, right? and so it is interesting and important to note. you've had some pretty dire things to say about the future of your party, especially after the speaker fight. and i'm curious, have you ever considered switching parties to become an independent? >> i mean, those are kinds of thoughts that frankly go through my head all the time about, you know, what is the future of the republican party? how do i identify when it comes to the politics of this? i'm still of the belief that, look, i think even though things are still continuing to go off the rails with the republican party, there are signs with the
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lessening of donald trump's influence, although i think people have learned trumpism, there is signs that some of this may eventually burn itself out. so, i'll never say i quit considering it because for me -- and i think this is how most americans feel -- is, like, you just want to be represented by somebody. in my case, the republican party has certainly felt like it left me. i haven't changed my policies, my beliefs or anything. i just believe in truth and being committed to truth and consistency and honesty. that's where i feel a little humbleness in the republican party sometimes. >> you still identify as a republican. what would be the final straw for you? >> i think it's, like, when it happens. that'll be the final straw, when you know. we are a country represented by two political parties generally. obviously there's minor parties. and i think the republican party still deserve a fight for the soul of it. but, you know, at the same time, i think most americans feel like
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i'm kind of tired of voting for lesser of two evils. right now i'm enjoying not being in congress, and i'll continue to evaluate that with myself every day. >> let's talk about a republican that is in congress right now. that would be the new york congressman, george santos, who has lied about his identity. voters put him in office based on the identity he made up. and we're getting more and more evidence of everything he made up, it seems like, by the day. here's the latest example. this is a radio interview he did where he fabricated being on the volleyball team and going to beirut college. let's listen. >> it's funny. i actually went to school on a volleyball scholarship. >> you did? >> i did, yeah. when i was in beirut, we were the number one volleyball team -- >> did you graduate from there? >> yeah, i did. >> so did i. so did i. >> great school. great institution.
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i sacrificed both my knees and got very nice knee replacements playing volleyball. that's how serious i took the game. >> again, a lie. your thoughts? and he's still serving, by the way. and kevin mccarthy -- oh, go ahead. i just want to note to our viewers. he is still serving. kevin mccarthy has said he has no plans to ask him to resign, although other republicans have. >> yeah. kevin can't ask him to resign because kevin needs his vote as it is right now. i really worry about the republicans' ability to pass anything. i worry about the country's ability to pass something through the debt limit. this guy is not just expanding his résumé, he's not lying about some things. truthfully, he is a total, utter fraud. and his election in front of the people of new york was fraudulent. he presented himself as somebody he wasn't. look, i don't think he -- i don't think he can make it two years in congress just personally. i mean, congress can kick him
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out, by the way. congress can certainly censure him. >> it has to be a big majority. >> yeah, yeah, it has to be a big majority. i think if kevin came out for it, they would do it. kevin mccarthy needs his vote. i feel bad for the 700,000 people in new york that he represents that he utterly, absolutely, completely lied to. >> so, then, okay. so, clearly you have issues with him. what is your message to kevin mccarthy then about this? >> well, i mean, look, if i was there, i would tell kevin, we have to ask him to leave. we have to ask him to resign. look, his own party back in new york has said, we want him out. i think, you know, if kevin came out and said this in the leadership of the gop and the house said it, he would -- maybe he still wouldn't resign, but i certainly think the pressure would be there. look, my party has a problem with telling the truth. this is not helping that reputation. and that's what i'd be advising. but it's obvious he's not going to do it because he needs that vote. >> adam kinzinger, great to have you on the show.
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president biden this morning delivered a sermon drawing on the legacy of dr. martin luther king jr., the president of the his historic ebenezer church in atlanta. what was president biden's message ahead of tomorrow's holiday honoring mlk? >> reporter: president biden drew a direct line between dr. king's legacy and what he called the soul of the nation. president biden became the first sitting president to deliver remarks at a sunday service at
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ebenezer baptist church, the same church, as you mentioned, where dr. king was a pastor. and president biden took a moment to reflect on the state of the country today, saying that it is at a critical juncture and at an inflection point. take a listen to what he had to say. >> the battle for the soul of this nation is perennial. it's a constant struggle. it's a constant struggle between hope and fear, kindness and cruelty, justice and injustice, against those that traffic racism, extremism, and insurrection. a battle fought on battlefields and bridges from courthouses to ballot boxes to pulpits and protest. >> reporter: now, president biden also spoke about economic justice and civil rights. all of this, of course, in a state that is critical if he chooses to run in 2024. this is a state that biden narrowly flipped in 2022, buoyed
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by black voters. of course, this is a moment advisers are considering what his political future will be. to that end, all of this came against the backdrop of the trickle of disclosures over the last week about documents found in his private spaces, particularly his residence in wilmington as well as a former office after he was vice president that had classified markings that will bleed into the week. it has been almost 60 years since king delivered his "i have a dream" speech from the steps of the lincoln memorial. tonight ahead of the mlk holiday, we examine what civil rights progress has been made since then and the work that remains. chief research education and programs officer at the king center in atlanta. great to have you on the show. first off, how important was it for president biden to deliver this sermon today in that church? >> it was -- thank you for having me, pamela, first of all. it was critically important for
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president biden to make remarks from ebenezer baptist church. in as much as he is the president, he sets the tone for the nation and certainly continues to ensure that the united states has an optimal position in the world. so, it was absolutely a significant and remarkable for the president to make those remarks today. >> this past friday, a group of dc public school students paid tribute by reading lines from the "i have a dream" speech at the act spot where mlk delivered it. let's listen. >> no, no, no. we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until justice rolls down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream. >> i am not a monster that some of you have come here out of great trials and tribulations. >> some of you have come fresh from narrow jail cells. >> and some of you have come from areas where your quest for freedom have left you -- by the
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winds of police brutality. >> how do you think those words resonate with the younger generation? >> they continue to resonate, and i'm so happy to hear those young people articulate the words of dr. king. in fact, if we reflect back on the civil rights movement, we think about the birmingham campaign, young people really provided the engine for the movement, if you will. you think about the founding of the king center with mrs. coretta scott king and her emphasis around education and training, which was designed, if you will, to empower a generation of change makers. it's part of the work we continue to do at the king center and powering change makers through the power of non-violence. it was absolutely wonderful to hear those young people articulate those words. >> a core concept in king's "dream" speech is racial integration. here is a u.s. census chart showing income by race. it shows black still at the bottom. where are we as a society with
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that 60 years later after that speech? >> yeah. what i'll say is that there's still more work to be done. martin luther king jr.'s philosophy and methodology of non-violence is center to this. dr. king's ultimate vision, the crux of his vision, if you will, is the vision of the community. he saw non-violence for the prism for which we would arrive in the community. non-violence really is central to the change that we want to see in our society. it's significant for policy reform. it's significant for policy reform at all levels. >> what do you think he would say if he looked at society today in terms of the progress that still needs to be made? >> yeah, i think dr. king would reflect gingerly on the progress that we've made. i think a quote from mrs. coretta scott king is most appropriate here. mrs. king said that, freedom is never really run, that struggle
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is a never ending process, that you earn it and win it in every generation. so, there's redemption and the struggle. i think dr. king would look on the current moment and appreciate the changes that have been made but also understand there's more to be done, and again, empowering people to make that change. the theme of the king holiday this year is set by the king center is "it starts with me." that's an important concept because it suggests that the work of justice, right, the eradication of the triple evils, racism, poverty, and war, that those things cannot be delegated elsewhere. but if we absorb the notion that it starts with me, that helps us to know that we have a responsibility in all of this. >> well said. thank you so much. a tough choice looms for facebook's parent company. should donald trump be allowed to return to the platform? we're going to look at the factors in that decision we're expecting any day now up next. uhhhh... here, i'll take that. [woo hoo!] ensure max protein, with 30 grams of protein, one gram of sugagar and nutrients for immune health.
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of alabama basketball player is charged with capital murder. 21-year-old darius miles is facing charges in connection with a shooting in tuscaloosa, alabama, early this morning. police tell us he is one of two men arrested and charged in this case. the university released this statement. first and foremost, we extend our deepest sympathies to the family and friends of the victim from last night's incident. we were made aware of the recent charge against student athlete darius miles, and he is no longer a member of the alabama men's basketball team. athletics in conjunction with the university is fully cooperating with this investigation. well, any day now, facebook's parent company is expected to announce whether it will allow former president donald trump back onto platform. cnn spoke with two former facebook officials, one a democrat, the other a republican. donie o'sullivan shows us they have special insight into the type of debate that will ultimately lead to a decision. >> so, facebook has a big
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decision. >> she gets to go first. >> reporter: basketball is about to make one of the most consequential decisions in the company's history. should it let former president trump back on its platforms? >> in general i don't think it's right for a private company to sensor politicians or the news in a democracy. >> reporter: facebook banned trump after january 6th and said it would reassess the situation in two years. now time is up, and facebook says the decision is imminent. >> i've had people say to me, you guys will do anything for a dollar. you don't care. and quite the opposite was true. there was a lot of deliberation. >> reporter: crystal patterson is a democrat. katie is a republican. both have senior jobs at facebook's offices in washington, d.c. where they work with politicians on using the platform. >> i think the decision to take trump off the platform was overdue. we had had a number of instances that for any other user would have been banning -- when the
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looting starts the shooting starts. >> did you think in that moment it was right to kick him off? >> i thought in that moment it was. in the lead-up to that moment, i was still defending keeping him on the platform because, as horrible as some of the things that he posted, i still just couldn't get myself past the point that i thought that people deserved to know what the people that are representing them have to say. >> reporter: trump's social media ban was welcomed by many in the u.s., it was also criticized by free speech advocates and some international politicians. in deciding what to do now, facebook says it is assessing the risk to public safety and risk of imminent harm in giving trump his account back. >> the parameters that facebook have set in term of figuring out if he should be allowed back on, essentially what it is is the mood, the feeling of the country. >> it's a judgment call. it's a judgment call. i think it's very important to recognize that both of these decisions are going to have a ton of impactful consequences.
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and it would be foolish to think that either way would lead to decision. >> whatever facebook decides increases political speech on the platform. elon musk has already restored the former president's account, although he hasn't tweeted yet. >> looking at is there imminent violence happening, which i think is a little bit different than incitement to violence. it's a nuanced type of approach. i don't necessarily see that happening. you don't see other january 6ths that have necessarily happened. >> i recognize between imminent and incitement. he is willing to use this platform to create that kind of energy and activity. and i think that means he was privileged to have access to it. i think there's no shortage from hearing from him. it's not like because he hasn't been on facebook or twitter that he's had any trouble getting his message out or having trouble making sure people know how he feels about things. i don't think he's entitled to
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an account on there. >> tens of millions of americans voted for donald trump. for those tens of millions of americans, they're going to say, facebook's a platform of censorship. >> they can still talk about donald trump. they can talk about the election. they can have all that dialogue. >> i would be more inclined to let him back and make sure they have a very clear set of criteria about what are the thresholds that would require the company to take down content or demote it or take him off the platform. i don't think it should take another january 6th level event in order to do that. >> our thanks to donie o'sullivan. a short time ago at the kennedy space center in florida, spacexx launched its falcon heavy rocket. the classified mission is the fifth overall launch, the most powerful rocket. we'll be right back. to design hr solutions to provide flexible pay options and greater workforce visibility today, so you can have more success totomorrow. ♪ one thing leads to another, yeah, yeah ♪
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rudy giuliani is the former new york city mayor, who became a hero to so many people, not just new yorkers, in the aftermath of 9/11. he's facing a litany of legal troubles for his role in spreading donald trump election conspiracy theories and for allegedly encouraging the january 6th insurrection, which he denies. tonight, the final two episodes of the cnn original series, "giuliani: what happened to america's mayor" provides a look at the epic rise and fall of this iconic american politician. >> there's a time when, you know, it got emotional, but i never heard him say he's scared, you know? >> put your mask on. put your mask on. >> some guys get in a position,
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and they step up. and i think that's how he was. >> what's the situation right now. >> the situation is that two airplanes have attacked, apparently -- what? all right, let's get -- let's go north then. >> they might be afraid that they overcome it because they're trying to help other people. >> cnn's senior political analyst and anchor john avlon joins us now. he served -- you, john -- served as speech writer for rudy giuliani when he was mayor of new york. really interesting to get your perspective on this. this series shows giuliani in all of his complexity. what else should viewers remember about him, as they watch these final two episodes? >> well, pamela, these final two episodes trace his arc from 9/11, from that pinnacle of international leadership, to his fall, falling in with donald trump and spreading election
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lies around january 6th. before the attacks of 9/11, rudy giuliani was an enormously successful mayor, a great mayor by any subjective standard, cutting crime more than 50%, cutting welfare in half, turning multibillion dollar deficits into surpluses, cutting taxes, restoring the quality of life, setting a model for urban america that showed cities were not, indeed, ungovernable. and that is a success in governing. and it's in stark contrast, in some ways, to how he is seen today. but it shouldn't be forgotten. the man needs to be remembered in all his complexities in his successes that threaten to be overwhelmed in the last chapter of his career. >> giuliani's actions during and after the trump era will have a big impact on his legacy. what do you think the history books will say about giuliani 50 years from now? >> i think 50 years from now, his leadership on 9/11 will still be the first sentence in
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his legacy, and it should be. that was a time when america faced an unprecedented massive attack, and he led us instinctively through that, not only in new york, as you said, but around the nation. but i think this last chapter, the decisions he's made to throw in with donald trump and back an election lie and contradict so many of the principle that he upheld, i think that threatens to cast a shadow and make so much of the positive things about his legacy less accessible. you need to understand somebody in all the chapters of their life. i think 9/11 ultimately is what he will be remembered for and should be remembered for. but this last chapter shows a shadow over all the great good he did in other chapters of his career unfortunately. >> certainly, and i think you're right. look at the whole person, all the complexities. and that is what this is going to show. john avlon, thank you so much. the final two episodes of the cnn original series, "giuliani: what happened to america's
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mayor? " airs in just a few minutes. robbie ki nooefl has died. he followed in his father's footsteps with his draw dropping motorcycle stunts cl, including this one over the fountains in las vegas. his father tried that same jump unsuccessfully years earlier. robbie lost his battle with pancreatic cancer on friday. he was 60 years old. we'll be right back. anand effortlessly responds to both of you. our smart sleepers get 28 minutes more restful sleep per night. proven quality sleep. only from sleep number.
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more in december than they did a year ago. on average, families have paid an extra $82 for shelter, $72 for food, and $47 for utilities. the good news here, inflation appears to be cooling off in recent months, compared to its peak last june. dramatic scenes out of san diego, as firefighters rescued an injured driver after a crash left his vehicle dangling off a cliff. look at this. the team battled heavy winds and rain, first securing the suv, and then air lifting that driver out of the rocks and into safety. firefighters say the driver was parked on the side of the road there when the vehicle suddenly and unexplain bli lurched over the edge. terrifying. it is one thing to be miss usa and another to be miss universe. how about being crowned both? gabrielle beat runners up to be crowned the 71st miss universe on saturday night. you may remember her viral moon
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costume, which was inspired by her hometown and nasa headquarters, houston -- wow. look at this. my goodness. 83 other women competed for the crown in new orleans. miss ukraine doaned a costume fight for freedom. she is teaching sewing to survivors of human trafficking and domestic violence. don't forget that you can tweet me @pamelabrowncnn and you can follow me on instagram at the same handle. thank you for joining me tonight. the cnn original series, "giuliani: what happened to america's mayor" is next. - - now is the time to take our city back from the violent criminals on the streets.
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