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we have a lot to talk about. we are one night away from what will be the unofficial kickoff of joe biden's likely reelection run also known as his state of the union address. what case really make to the nation to elect him to a second term? a lot of political types thinks it is not just what he says, it is how he appears. president biden would be 82 if he wins reelection. he is already the oldest american president ever. is that why so many people are still on the fence? >> plus, lebron james was on his way to break the nba's all-time scoring record. remember when he was a real dries to just start up and dribble? he did not take that advice. now he is just 36 points shy of lakers legend kareem abdul debars record. we will talk about it. the stressful part for me is competing every single day. >> also, nerve-racking moments
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in the sky, first it was the near miss at jfk when two planes packed with passengers nearly collided on the wrong way last month. that was a delta flight and it had to abort its takeoff as american airlines flight across the runway right in front of it. >> [bleep] [inaudible] >> well, there was another near miss this weekend. a fedex plane in a southwest airline 7:37 came within 100 feet of each other. experts say it was the pilot of the fedex plane, not air traffic controllers who averted disaster at the last possible moment. >> [inaudible] >> ten seconds. >> [inaudible] >> okay, here in studio with me, to talk about all of this, we have cnn's famous john berman, also political commentator as he trunk and -- also joining us is former fda safety inspector -- what was that, 100? they came within 100 feet of each other, those two planes. what happened? how does that happen? >> it was so narrowly avoided.
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if the fedex person had not been on the ball like he was, you don't understand when they are flying in like that and when you are getting ready to land you can't really see anything underneath. you he saw that as he was coming in and aborted his touchdown just at the last few minutes, hundred feet is not long. the airplane itself from ground to tail is only about 60 feet itself,, saw 100 feet is not far at all. this should not have happened. >> but i don't get it, how did it happen? isn't this why air traffic control is pushed people waiting? >> yeah. they are. and they do have in most airports, 35 of the largest airports have ground surface -- where the airplanes are in when they are moving in when they are not moving. in this airport does not have that. so that would've helped them but you can't rely on that. you still have to make your decisions and the only thing that i think could've happened is the air traffic controller asked southwest to come on and southwest took a little longer than normal to actually hit the guns and go so that could have caused the timing to be off but it should never have been that close in the first place, if
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that airplane hadn't taken, made to go around it would've landed right on top of that airplane, we would've had one of the worst aviation disasters on our hands. >> john berman, are you aware that -- haven't we talked about this? i >> can't imagine why. >> the way i look at this, all the joy and comfort has been sucked out of flying. they don't give you leg room, they don't leave on time -- >> they don't give you peanuts. anymore >> no peanuts. the only thing left was to give you -- drunk -- >> now, when you see this and you see what happened a few weeks ago you are wondering if you are losing the threat even there. yes, i see. >> this is very unsettling. i am also a nervous flier in just a visual of -- the good news is it is a really safe time to fly. it is still a very -- >> i do feel as though these incidents, we've just seen a few of them in the last three months. >> but facts don't care about your feelings, alison. >> i get that. we hear these stories but just because we are hearing them
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doesn't make them all that you know, popular. in fact, it is a very safe time to fly. i talked to pilots and i talk to aviation experts. it is really hard for planes to crash these days so take a little solace -- were very much so. and you have to do it, we live in a world that we have got to get around in. but these things do not endure any kind of confidence. it makes you feel like, i am putting my life in these people 's hands. and you are, by the way. granted, anything i see is saying, i am sure statistically it has been what it has always been. it is far more dangerous to get behind the wheel of. car however, the lack of control. we already realize that we have no control on a plane. can you just keep us naive and encourage? do we have to know that the hundred foot distance? i can throw a ball hundred feet -- i could've hit the plane? >> what i am more worried about it is a flyer, i travel a lot to, i am more worried these days about my fellow travelers. and the freak outs that we are seeing on tiktok and instagram. -- >> it is going to take care of them too. let's not be fatalistic but i am more worried about the people sitting next to me these days. which is awful an awful thing to fear. the passenger next. do you >> but facts don't care
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about your feelings, alison. >> i get that. we hear these stories but just because we are hearing them doesn't make them all that you know, popular. in fact, it is a very safe time to fly. i talked to pilots and i talk to aviation experts. it is really hard for planes to crash these days so take a little solace -- were very much so. and you have to do it, we live in a world that we have got to get around in. but these things do not endure any kind of confidence. it makes you feel like, i am putting my life in these people 's hands. and you are, by the way. granted, anything i see is saying, i am sure statistically it has been what it has always been. it is far more dangerous to get behind the wheel of. car however, the lack of control. we already realize that we have no control on a plane. can you just keep us naive and encourage? do we have to know that the hundred foot distance? i can throw a ball hundred feet -- i could've hit the plane? >> what i am more worried about it is a flyer, i travel a lot to, i am more worried these days about my fellow travelers.
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and the freak outs that we are seeing on tiktok and instagram. -- >> it is going to take care of them too. let's not be fatalistic but i am more worried about the people sitting next to me these days. which is awful an awful thing to fear. the passenger next. do you >> i don't want worry about either one of them. , as he is right, of course. air travel is safe and it is much safer than driving however do you think these things are happening in our they're more -- lately or is this just my imagination? >> it depends on the scope and what you are looking at. -- looked at it in 2016 there were maybe seven or eight that happened the entire year. as we move forward three years with less than the remeet years with more. when they happen close together like this it does tend to make everybody really nervous. but you have to realize that there are tens of thousands people that their entire job is trying to make this flight safe
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for you. and this is, to tell you how many tears of safety there are including the air traffic control monitors that they have and then again each of the pilots just looking after the safety of the passengers on board. so the fact that this was a safe flight tells you that even when things go wrong there are very many tears to make sure that something doesn't go deadly wrong. you have to make sure that you understand that to be able to get on their under fly and understand how much safety in how many levels of safety there are to prevent piecing from happening. and it can worry you. i understand. that >> s. e., by the way,
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facts to care about my feelings. here they are, right now. -- airline issues in just the past month. january 11th, faa system outage halts domestic air travel. that was also nerve-racking. i don't like it when the whole system goes down. >> not a safety issue, but okay. >> coming up, holder jets january 17th, near collision at jfk airport. february 3rd, united plane clips another plane. a near miss. that was a hit, okay. february 5th, near collision we've been talking about. that isn't enough for you, i want you to to show you the animation that we did of how close they came to each other. so this is the fedex plane trying to land and this is the southwest airlines trying to take off. that is what happened right there. >> that is terrifying. that is terrifying. yes. i have to fly very soon. i am terrified of that happening now!
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and let's keep playing it over and over again so i don't sleep tonight. >> i won't do that. oh yes i will. here it is. >> but david, i know that you have also talked about how there is no faa administrator. but that doesn't really affect it. does that really affect what is happening on the ground? that is a suit in washington d. c.. does that really tropical down what is happening with runway? >> you think of these break broad scope things that might affect things and in this case it actually does. because you look at this air service detection system and it is only in 35 airports. why is it not in more? and you look at the fact that the system went down. the air traffic control system, the no ten system that went down. i really really that directly to the fact that there is more interim faa directors than there have been faa directors in the last 5 to 10 years. so it is something to look at. and here is the reason that these systems take a long time to develop. it takes 6 to 10 years to go through the life cycle, the developmental life cycle. in those times, when you change administrators this instance don't get the tension they need. they don't get the function they need. it changes all the time. it is hard to give a system to get it completely redone -- they end up putting patches on old systems that were designed in the 60s and 70s and they
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keep putting these patches on them to make them safe. they are still safe but they could be improved much -- to be able to head all the different changes in the complexity. this is a measurably complex as you can imagine. and there are a lot of people try to make it safe. it is the safest way to travel, there's no question. can it be improved? would it be improved by an administrator who is in the seat for more than four years? absolutely. i have been touting that for very many years as you know, alisyn. >> i don't want to think there is -- but i take your point, david. thank you for being a voice of reason with all of this. all right, stick around everybody. he is our oldest cnn president ever and it looks like joe biden wants another four years. can he convince america? in the state of the union address tomorrow night of why he should be reelected. help make trading feel effortless and its customizable scans with social sentiment
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president biden getting ready for the state of the union address tomorrow night, as a cell voters in a second term. do voters want to hear about as many accomplishments, or will they be focused on how he looks and sounds. back with me john berman, -- john was the answer to that? >> i think it's both. i think it's no secret that joe biden is not a young man at
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this point, i think largely that's baked on the cake, americans except they have a much older president in the united states. but every time you does a big public fan like this, i think people are watching. by and large, every time he's done a big public thing, for which is been planning, teleprompter speech he said that mark at the big question for him is. is how does the approaches, as he approaches as a launch first 2024 presidential campaign? and if so, what is he running on? he has benefited, i think, largely and politically for a few years now from instead of telling people what he is four instead proving to people who he is not. he is sort of succeeding in opposition to things for years. i am curious if he continues to try to hit that mark. he is saying, elise i am not these guys.
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>> i think heels are to stand for unity. talked about that a lot, talks about his accomplishments a lot. building bridges. i don't think he only defines himself as non trump. i'm >> not saying he only defines himself as not being trump, i think a lot of his political success has come from that. if you look at the midterms where democrats did better than i think people expected they would, i think that success came from not being trump, not being some of the republicans. i don't think it came from the infrastructure bill and whatever bipartisan omnibus
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things they got through. his >> true. >> messaging issue still, democrats not getting through. i beg to differ. i don't know that most people are paying much attention at all to any of this successes. i think they are just stuck on the fact that he is an old man. >> what could they do differently? >> you do with what you have. we have joe biden so we have gone with joe biden. but i think that further, timing, matters. we are in the age of media and things have to make sense and they have to click. they have to be pretty enough to be all the things. i just feel i am afraid that joe biden not just because of the age, but because of the messaging and the lack thereof that he is just going to have an uphill battle. >> yeah, listen, i am often on the air when joe biden is giving a speech so i am a captive audience, i listen to more of joe biden speeches than i think -- so it is -- because he definitely knows it that he is not -- resonating. a >> couple of things. i think one of the mistakes he made leading up to the midterms that he didn't completely read the room. he talked about the strong economy and how great the country is doing in his numbers could have been right that is just not how a lot of people felt. and so to feel peoples pain was
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a gift of clinton's. i don't think it is the gift of bidens and tomorrow i would hope that he would acknowledge that people are still feeling pinched at the pump and at the grocery store. he has enough to pretend that doesn't exist. he could lean into it and say we have got a lot of work to do. i would also, to john's point, keep making the contrast. the threat is still inside the house. and i think that it would be wise to talk about, not the things republicans will do but the things they've already done. and the stuff they want to do more of. i would call out how asinine and crazy and extreme some of the stuff is that republicans want to do and i would make the case, if i were joe biden, that
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irrational, common sense, i am not going to blow the place down and i am not here for the destruction and destruction, i'm here to get us on the right track. that might be good enough of a message for a relaunch if that is what tomorrow is partly about. >> we hope. i am afraid that the vice president has been -- >> where? where has she been? let's talk about that. so, is not part of what will go into people's calculation for his, if they are reelecting him -- >> if you think about the coalition, the reason biden is there is not because of a bunch of old white man. it is because of everyone else. everyone else is invisible in whatever is happening, positive or not. it is a problem for that core coalition that said yes, we will give you a shot. i hate to say it but representation absolutely matters. obviously the vice president is a very busy woman doing a lot of work, hard things that we're
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never going to know about. >> why won't we know about them? >> that is my question. back to my point about messaging. why don't we see her? why don't we feel? her why doesn't she have a platform in his administration where we can tangibly feel a black woman outwork? >> can i take a guess? i don't know the answer. and i don't doubt that she is working hard. i'm not one of the people who say oh she is not doing anything i think she's working very hard. it feels to me like talking too much about kamala and putting kamala harris out front where -- joe biden look less capable -- she's part of why i voted for her. i am republican. i voted for joe biden because i thought, he is not crazy any wants to make america good again.
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but his vice president mattered. he could've picked people that i would not have voted for. he picked kamala and i thought, she is smart, she's not to progressive. she is going to fix some problems. where has she been? >> you think they should put her out more? make her more of a public face of the administration? do you think that would be good politics, at this point? >> i want to hear more from her. i feel like the reason they are not is to protect joe biden. i think that kind of sucks. >> i think that if that is in play, it is a bad play. that doesn't protect him. it does make him look like a partner. what we wanted in them is a partnership. that partnership matters. >> do you have a theory on this? >> i don't. i am not sure it is because of fear of how it will make him look.
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i get the sense from the reporting that has been out there that they haven't been overwhelmed with joy in some of the things that she has been out in front of, whether it be immigration early on or other things. but you know, i certainly think -- >> don't you think she can withstand questioning from the plus? questioning from members of congress about where she has been on those issues? hiding her does her no service. -- >> again, so the answer is yes, i think she could do very well from the press but there is the perception in that big first sit-down interview that she did do that she didn't do as well as they were. hoping >> she didn't answer honestly and he pushed her on that. that was inappropriate relationship. >> all right, well we shall see how they choose to play it tomorrow night. okay, meanwhile, only 36 more to go. with the lakers playing tomorrow,, lebron james could be about to break the all-time scoring record for the nba. as john knows, i'm a sports buff. and so we are going to be talking a lot about this. this is basketball, john. and we are going to talk about his impact on and off the court next. and effortlessly responds to both of you. our smart sleepers get 28 minutes more restful sleep per night. proven quality sleep. only from sleep number. you definitely know.
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lebron james is 36 points away
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from breaking the nba all-time scoring record. and tonight, the superstar is being hailed as the g. o. a. t. is speaking out. >> has this been stressful at all? the chase? no. because it was never a goal, an ever a journey. you know, the stressful part for me is competing every single day to try and bring home -- >> -- as i can tell you, if you don't know that reference, he is referencing the nba championship trophy. with me now, john berman, also professional player, professional something, sportsmen -- is all the same to me. so, joke over. i don't know that much about sports, but i do know that lebron james is beyond mortal. he is, he is made of different stock. i know that much. then any other athlete, because he -- this was a record, as you well know, crimo do job are.
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he said nearly -- back then commentators like yourself thought it would never be broken and tomorrow night it probably will be. broken >> he is going to have to get 37 points to break. it has been amazing to watch him do what he has done for so many years and i think his commitment to being the best and being the guy who he wants the ball in his hands when it matters, but i think what i loved the most about him, of course he is always compared to michael jordan. if i had one game, john, i think i'm still going with mj to get that bucket. but lebron has been the ultimate team player, making guys around him better, wanting to be the -- who passes the ball, he is actually the fourth all-time in assists. this is a guy who is six foot nine and who plays power forward and he has got the fourth most assists of all point guards in this group. and there is lebron james. not only going to be the greatest scorer but one of the top assists. so >> why would you take
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michael jordan? >> -- assassin. he won, he would beat you when he had to. lebron, in some ways has, almost been too nice sometimes, giving up the ball. that being said, he has won four nba championships and he is just dominating for 20 years. which is five more years already than jordan in the leak. >> so this could happen on our watch tomorrow night. because he has been averaging 32. 2 points per day for the last five games so that would put him oh no he needs 30. six >> the next two games or an. all-day >> it is not a math
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thing. luckily, there won't be. matt here is the thing. is lebron james, he is a generational talent, he's on the proverbial route mount rushmore of basketball, -- he himself there described what this record means. it is an law, but not everything. because basketball are really is about the championships, combined with the greatness. jordan, in addition to being the assassin has six. lebron has four. bill russ has got 11. so there are players who have more wings than he has and why he is not the greatest player in the game today, if he is trying to be called the greatest ever i don't think he necessarily is the g. o. a. t. in basketball. i think most people would still say jordan. >> you told me your sports aficionados jason. >> indeed. the first thing i'm thinking of, i just have to do push back on you saying he isn't mortal.
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i think the thing that he's very special about him is that he so. human >> tell me what makes him so -- >> he is so much more than the game itself. i mean, really this is a person who understands the magic of community. this is what we are talking about when we say that kind of team dynamic that he is already lifting up. -- so he does this on the court he, does this off the court and he represents, i think, what makes him the g. o. a. t. is that his character is aligned with his prize. and really, to see someone this dedicated and this clear about his identity, and this protective of his blackmail -- he knows the body that he is in and he respects it and he understands from a political place and really from a personal place how much his representation manners to so many. >> he always speaks out on important issues. hugely important. that is a former athlete, what i also admire about him is his longevity, his commitment to being in the best possible --
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he says that even when he was a teenager he stretched before he went to bed and when he woke up in the morning. i know this guy could do a little bit more for his running regimen but that is why lebron is still playing at the highest level at 38. and i think he's going to be able to do it for even a few more years. let's remember, he went back to cleveland, remember he left cleveland -- akron ohio is his home where he has done so much for the community. and then he decided to leave cleveland and go to miami to win a couple of rings where he won two there and then you know what he said? i'm going back to cleveland. he went back there and he brought them a championship which they were craving in all sports. >> well it is, great to hear all of this and i am excited for tomorrow night. you guys need to tune in. -- >> this would be huge breaking news. all right, thank you all. next, another allegation against congressman george santos. we are going to tell you what he's being accused of this time. lthy diet is one of the most important things. i also feel the same way about my dog. we were feeding her dry, triangle shaped ingredients long as the yellow brick road. we didn't know how bad it was for her until we actually got the good food. we got her the farmer's dog sent in the mail. it was all fresh, when she started eating healthier,
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staffers accusing -- tennis of sexual arrest. mint -- etched his groin late last month before inviting him to his home, saying his husband was out of town. mayer says he declined santos's alleged advance. a few days later he says santos questioned him about his past work as a reporter. now, meyers was charged lustful with wiretapping after republishing audio -- case is ongoing but journalism advocacy groups urge prosecutors to drop that charge. meyer says his job offer with the congressman was withdrawn on february 1st. although, he had already been working with santos his office voluntarily. santos responded to the allegations on capitol hill today, calling them comical. >> [inaudible]
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>> it's comical. >> you denied the claim against you? >> of course i deny the claim against me. let me make it clear. if there was remote, any part of that that were true, you should've let that and not -- from him for being accused of doing exactly what he did to us. >> just a follow-up. so you categorically deny this? >> back with me, john berman, patrick macro-and karen mayo. so kieran, another day another
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george santos allegation our story. it is hard to give george santos the benefit of the doubt with this one. not that the accuser has offered any evidence, but at this point, why would we believe him? >> first of all, the irony is that he has said more about this than he has had about anything since the man has been elected to congress. we are talking about a very sick puppy allison,. this is not someone who at any point at least from what we can tell in his history has been well. so i am wondering if at this point his fellow congress are booing him by allowing him to exist in this medium. the fact that he is there to me at this point, what could they do?
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>> as you have heard, kevin carney university else has said this is up to the voters. they have him for two years. >> yeah but if you are my friend and i were the crazy person like this i would want you to pull back out. they are allowing him to exist like that, there are not even fun scripting him. he is giving away's guilt in this case. it is like he is so that this person told on him it almost seems like he is wearing the truth in his reaction. because he hasn't even given us this much reaction to anything. >> yeah. it is so distracting. it has nothing to do with laws and representing his constituents. >> you felt like you are jumping on the sports talk i feel like i'm jumping in with experts on this top. to me the, where that was used by the congressman, this is comical. this is, what are we becoming in this country that i guess, it is sort of understood that to a certain extent dent politicians on both sides of
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the aisle they fudge the truth a little bit. >> -- from a dying dog, he's wanted in brazil for check forgery. he's being accused of sexual harassment. he has said his mother was in 9/11. -- this isn't just typical -- >> the gumption that this guy has. he is walking around with shades on in the look like he is pulling this whole thing off. to me -- he has pulled it off. >> he is in congress. he has somehow tricked kevin riccardi into thinking he has nothing to do wrong. the voters have no say in it now but congress can push him out. they are the ones who decide to sit there at this point. they could expel him in the
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have chosen not to. these allegations against him, the ethics committee will decide that they will stand on their own merits. i have no idea what is going on there. however as you both said, all of you have said, they can't give this guy the benefit of the doubt. they have lied about almost everything. >> his finances are also curious as you guys know. he's being arrested for. that -- his campaign spending spent $22,000 in an italian restaurant. now, i have tried to spend $22,000 in a tie restaurant, it is hard. you have to drink a lot of wine for that. but he has that problem get spending but he also couldn't pay is rent at times. he is so all over the map. as you pointed out, when you elect a serial liar to congress what do you expect? >> we all know discover high school. we all have a friend who was like, is that real? did that really happen? by senior year we decided enough with this guy. we are not going to keep listening to this ridiculousness. he is a waste of all of our time really. >> here is yet another person who has claimed george santos tried to get him to elect invest in a ponzi scheme. here is christian lopez. >> you get into this restaurant. it was very good, he was treating me like we were family. i never stepped foot in there in my life, we had my lawyer in my girlfriend. so when we go in there, we get treated and we go to the second floor and then it is just a big room with one table and then george santos and then write that in there i was like, what? this is different. this is nice. wow. i've never been treated this nice before. >> that is the italian restaurant where he spent -- >> you don't have a butler when you go to dinner? >> natural follow-up question. >> it is also bizarre, i want to finish with the same point i
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started with. we deserve this. we have let this happen in our government and our congress. i grew up very close to congressional district three. where joe santos is from. we have all let this happen. we have put these types of people in congress. and we are reaping there -- >> was what we continue to go in that direction, people continue to go down these types of paths and has drawn so rightly pointed out it is not up to the voters in the area. it is up to the other members of congress. what are they going to do? >> they don't want to wait two more years. congress needs to step in and i think that it reflects, every time he rocks in those doors it reflects on them. it is less about him now in my mind that it is about them. >> you can bet it more to merck
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i really hope it's beyond sight because that would be embarrassing. as soon as he said i am honored they started standing up. it was such a great moment. she is now the most awarded artist in the history of the grammys 32 wins and that was the moment you made history, one renaissance won best dance electronic album. back with me is john berman, patrick macron row and keyon mayo. the consensus is she was robbed of album of the year. it is not the first time. it is the first time she was robbed. very interestingly some of the academy voters who make this decision explained in a variety magazine why they didn't vote for her. by the way, it had nothing to do with the -- so let me read to you what they said. here is one who said, with beyoncé, the fact that every time she does something new it is a big event and everyone is supposed to quake in their shoes, it is a little too portentous, he might mean
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pretentious i'm not sure. another one said, i also look at who has been there and go okay, adel, von say they always win. -- one for lizzo. so in other words she's, two good. >> yeah. she is penalized for being the g. o. a. t.. she is actually -- but before we get to the bad part we, have got to just celebrate the win. come on. i mean, beyoncé, what it takes for anyone, the body of work that you have to have to be, to get 32 grammys. let's just talk about that. her body of work. the woman is only 41 years old. so 32 grammys, she is 41 years old. it is pretty unbelievable and it is just a moment for everyone because i think there are so many beyoncé fans globally that have been waiting for her to be nominated in this way, like recognized as the g. o. a. t.. but the robbery, it is real and the academy, the recording
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academy has long been known for having some issues, many of them along racial lines. but as we are seeing in this variety article, who are these guys? really, i would rather someone who is listening to their music every day all day make these kinds of calls then someone who is actually reacting to beyoncé's ability to run all the time, to just simply be great. >> i also want to say i know you know a lot about it from reporting on the family, does she feel slighted? >> i don't know. she didn't call me right after it. i have no idea, she is so graceful that i don't think we would ever know but i do know that she thanked her mother in her father and to me that was the whole story. because you don't become a beyoncé without coming from a very rich place. when i say rich, i don't mean monetary.
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i mean the culture and the love and the foundation. >> in the spirituality. >> all of that i think is just foundational to the monument. >> totally agree. i don't know john, i guess i was just surprised to hear the voters admit that she winds too much and that is why they are going to not vote for her. >> it seems dumb in the admitted it. they spelled it out right there. i have to be honest, i don't fully understand and never hundred understood all the categories the grammys. there is best album, best record, best performance. which one is it? i just want her to get the one that she wants. okay? whichever one of those is the most important to her and want her to have. >> i do too. to that point, maybe it is not so much that award, i don't know because i don't know if it is important to her but so many people talked about how she was their inspiration and they think are. so let's listen to liz over a moment. >> where are you at beyoncé? my eyes are wet. you changed my life. you saying that gospel medley in the made you made me feel i
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was like, i want to make people feel this with my music. so thank you so much. you clearly are the artist of our lives. i love you. god bless you. >> that's beautiful. >> i mean, we started with king james and then others queen bee. she is the queen. there is no doubt about it you heard that from lizzo and you heard it a couple of years ago when idol won the album of the year, her record, -- it is either the record her family -- she should have won it for lemonade but adele winds it. she should have won it for renaissance because of how she is moving music forward as an artist, all that she is doing and she did win it but as you said, she is so gracious and she is so graceful and she is the queen and that is just the way it is going to be and i will tell you, it was amazing to see her. sports is objective. we could be objective, we could talk about jordan has got six and lebron has four. in music and the arts there is
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a little bit of, it is subjective. so it is hard to say definitively that this album, this artist was the best this year but i think i may be able to say about queen bee. she deserved it. on that note, that was excellent. we don't have time to talk about ben affleck, i am sorry. >> he was so unhappy. >> he was so miserable. >> he's going to be unhappy you are not talking about. when he is happy all the time. >> i don't know if he is unhappy all the time or if he was just too hot and tired. >> you need to hot as in warm? >> no, she fits-ing. i don't know. thank you all. meanwhile we do have some new details about that spy balloon that was flying around. those details are revealing new questions like how is the balloon flown across the u.s. before and why did no one notice then. stay with us.
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