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welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. this hour, maybe pierre dilecto needs to make a return to twitter. he says that mitt romney did not act very moremore during the state of the union address. days after that deadly earthquake in turkey and syria, the death toll stands at now more than 12,000, and that number is only expected to rise. amid the horror and devastation, turkey's government has restricted access to twitter after 18 people were detained for making so-called provocative posts about the quake. some journalists are denouncing
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the restrictions claiming rescue teams have been using twitter to communicate. our reporter is in turkey, as the golden period for finding survivors rapidly comes to a close. >> reporter: a 5-year-old emerges from underneath the rubble in turkey's hard hit city. one of hundreds of young lives saved. but for too many, it was too late. in this town, they mourned one of the many who did not make it out alive with. the death toll rising by the hour, this is a race against time. how many are buried in this massive quake zone, nobody really knows. estimates in the tens of thousands. here, search and rescue crews work tirelessly around the clock, digging through a 14-story residential building where families lay asleeve when the earthquake hit. survivors have gathered at the
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site of the rescue mission, and in the bitter cold, they huddle around these fires. everyone with the story of the horror they survived. the shock, the trauma, the pain visible on every face. parents doing what they can to try and make their little ones forget. many here are anxiously awaiting news of their loved ones and friends, buried under what's left of their homes. they're asking us to get down. we believe because they're scanning the building wreckage. this is a very, very careful operation that's going on, to try and locate any survivors. so far, they haven't been able to. no survivors yet, only lifeless bodies pulled. it's been three days. why didn't they get my son out, this father wails? as night falls, the rest of the
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family wait desperately of their 25-year-old son. they've been out here for three long nights. >> so bad, so bad. because at night, we are keeping my family, my cousin is dead. he's crying so much. >> your cousin's dad? we saw him earlier krig. >> yes, just cry, cry. i don't know what to say. we should -- we should pray to god. >> reporter: and that is all they and countless others can do right now. and jake, as search and rescue operations like this one are continuing across the country tonight, the turkish government is coming under fire for
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restricting twitter. this is not unusual. the government has done this in the past following attacks and explosions. they claim sit to fight misinformation. but critics of the government and a lot of people who have been involved in the search and rescue effort in the country, volunteers and call -- campaigners saying this is not about freedom of speech, but the fact that twitter has been an important tool used by volunteers to mobilize, to organize aid deliveries, and to direct search and rescue crews to where they are needed the most, jake. >> all right. thank you so much. let's bring in the spokesperson for unicef, joe english. thank you for joining us. some syrian refugees who fled to turkey during the war are once again experiencing hardship and homelessness. this has to be especially hard on the children. what is unicef's top priority
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for the kids right now? >> can you even begin to imagine? imagine a 12-year-old, all they've ever known is war. many families we speak to in northwest syria have been misplaced multiple times, five, six, seven times. they have been through one of the worst years yet of the war. humanitarian needs in syria are higher than ever, and now this. you know, imagine being a parent at 4:00 in the morning and you feel the shakes and the adrenaline kicks in, and you are trying to get them to safety. those who are lucky escaped with the clothes on their back or maybe a blanket. but so many others have not been so lucky. so the needs are huge. we need to get in with the basics, keeping families warm overnight when temperatures drop below zero, providing safe drinking water, and psycho social support, which will be a huge priority in the days ahead.
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>> turning to syria specifically, the earthquake comes during this drawn-out civil war, compounded by winter and a cholera outbreak. the world health organization say thing is a large, unfolding humanitarian disaster. how is unicef gearing up for these hard-hit areas? >> yeah, it's a disaster on a disaster. when you speak to -- when i speak to my colleagues on the ground and they speak to families, they have been through so much already. you know, it's hard not -- there's hope when you live within these situations, providing this care and support. and i have seen it in syria, i've seen it in ukraine, i've seen it around the world. when you can provide kids with safe places to play and with a child again, to be there, be safe, speak to a dedicated
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psycho social specialist, play with crayons and toys, unpack what they have been through, it makes a difference. getting kids back in school can make a difference. these are the things that are going to be critical. but the reality is, if you look at a city like aleppo, they have not recovered from 12 years of war. so now this is going to be a long road ahead for recovery. >> joe english with unicef. if you can afford to help and have the means, they can always use the help. to help the victims of the earthquake, go to ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy has just arrived in france on the second leg of an unannounced trip today. he stopped in uk today meeting with the prime minister, king charles and ukrainian troops training. the british announced that
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government will expand training to ukrainian fighter pilots. pilots need jets, of course, which the uk and other allies have refused to send to uk. fred pleitgen explains why today's visit is raising hopes for a shift in attitude as the onslaught is unrelenting. >> reporter: ukrainian towns getting decimated by russian firepower every day. this is in the east of the country, almost completely reduced to rubble. around bakhmut, combat at close quarters as ukrainian troops try to prevent russian fighters from encircling the city. wa wagner took to the skies and challenged ukraine's president to a dogfight. tomorrow, i'm boarding a mig-29, he said. if you desire, we'll meet in the sky. but ukraine's president,
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volodymyr zelenskyy, is in europe, visiting the uk's parliament pleading for western combat jets. >> in britain, the king is an air force pilot. and in ukraine today, every air force pilot is a king. >> reporter: despite being much smaller and older than moscow's air force, the ukrainians are still much in the fight in the skies. but they are losing planes and having trouble maintaining their soviet fleet. even a small number of western fighters would make a big difference, says ukraine's air force spokesman. "we can start with a few squadrons, each with 12 jets. if we have one to two more squadrons, it would be the first step for our pilots to transition. they could be in formation and perform combat missions on different directions." the u.s. has given the ukrainians some air-launched
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anti-radiation missiles called h.a.r.m. but kyiv says those would work much better if launched from jets. "they respect as efficient as if they were used from aircraft. their functionality is restricted, the range is shorter, making the efficiency lower." ukrainian officials say they want u.s.-made f-16s. so far joe biden has ruled out giving kyiv combat aircraft. but the uk says it will start training ukrainian pilots, and ukrainian officials say they're confident they will get jets, just like eventually they got the main battle tanks they requested. "we would like help as soon as possible, like yesterday, and our partners say it will come tomorrow. and the space between yesterday and tomorrow is very important to us." and ukraine's civilians remain in the cross hairs of russia's missiles and jets, while kyiv hopes for more western support
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to start beating them back. of course, jake, the ukrainians understand that if western nations like the u.s. are going to give them jets, it will take quite a while for something like that to be put in place and for them to use those jets here in the battle fronts. of course, there's more imminent needs that the ukrainians have, as well. it's something that president volodymyr zelenskyy talked about when he was in the united kingdom. he said armored vehicles are a high priority and longer distance missiles and rockets to hit russian supply lines. the ukrainians understand there's a russian offensive coming. they believe the next couple of months are going to be brutal in the east of this country. >> fred pleitgen in ukraine for us, thank you so much. coming up next, balloons of different sizes and capabilities. the pentagon releasing more details about china's floating spy program. and the nfl commissioner says philadelphia eagles fans are very good at one thing. i'm interested to hear what that is.
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we're back with our world lead. a chinese surveillance program is ballooning into a bigger
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deal. the pentagon has 100% certainly that china's surveillance balloon was not being used for civilian purposes. the spy balloon that floated across america is just one in a fleet. cnn's kylie atwood is at the state department for us. how extensive is this alleged surveillance program? >> reporter: quite extensive. u.s. officials believe it is run by the chinese military, and they don't know the full extent of this program yet, but what they do know at this point is that in recent years, there were more than two dozen of these missions that crossed over five continents. we heard that reiterated from the secretary of state today, saying there are five continents that these balloons have passed over in recent years. he said that there would be more information to come from the united states on this. we also heard from the pentagon that it's not one size fits all with these surveillance balloons, that they can have different sizes, some of them can have different capabilities. what the united states
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government is trying to do is figure out everything that they can about the balloon that was over the united states, just last week and was taken down off the coast of south carolina. those operations are still underway. they're gathering those pieces. they're taking them to a lab. there are fbi experts going through and trying to figure out what it was able to collect. then they're also trying to cast a broader net and figure out what the extent of this chinese program looks like. we heard from the nato secretary-general saying there is a need to increase defenses. >> kylie atwood, thank you so much. with us now, a top democrat on the brand new bipartisan select committee on china. congressman, thank you for joining us. so we're not dealing with a lone surveillance balloon here according to u.s. officials, but part of an extensive surveillance program. can you confirm that? is there evidence to prove that?
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and how might that change the comm committee's approach to this incident? >> we are receiving a classified meeting about this tomorrow morning. but we do know this was not a weather balloon. this was clearly a surveillance bl balloon. it was maybe 2,000 pounds of payload. so far, the pentagon has published in published reports. so this is quite a bit of equipment. >> obviously, the united states conducts surveillance all over the world on our adversaries, probably even on our allies. is this different than what the united states government does? >> well, let me just put it this way. i think a brazen violation of someone's air space is not a common occurrence. certainly not days before they invite your secretary of state to come and visit beijing. or your nation's capital.
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this is one of those situations, jake, where either one of two things are happening, and we're trying to figure out what's actually happening based on our latest intelligence. but either chairman xi and the higher echelon folks in the foreign ministry knew about what was going on with regard to this balloon, and still they decided to invite secretary blinken, which really questions the sip s -- sincerity of their overtures, or the people within the chinese communist party, the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing. we just don't know the answers. >> the fact that other balloons had crossed into u.s. air space undetected is concerning. take a listen to the commander of u.s. northern command. >>ly tell you that we did not detect those threats, and that's
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a domain awareness gap that we have to figure out. but i don't want to go into further detail. >> is your committee going to push for more details on this so-called awareness gap. >> yes. we're going to be asking a lot of searching questions. at this point, we're trying to basically ask how did this happen, when did we know this happened? has this happened in the past and how do we know it happened in the past? these are all the types of questions that we'll be asking at these classified briefings. >> right now, the fbi is analyzing pieces of the wreckage. what intelligence are you hoping to learn from that analysis? >> this could be a gold mine of information assessing their intelligence capabilities. what types of cameras do they have? what types of listening devices do they have? how quickly can they transmit that information? at what rate can they transmit
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it to their home ship or mother ship or back to beijing? these are important questions for us to know so that we can then invest appropriately and in our own countermeasures, as well as our own surveillance abilities. >> so there are a lot of republicans that we talked to sense last week who say very strongly that the biden administration should not have allowed the balloon to travel all the way across the country from montana and idaho down through kansas city, missouri, and onto the carolinas, that they should have shot it down way sooner over the pacific, over alaska. what's your response? >> i think they should ask the biden administration and the military leaders why they recommended this course of action. you have to defer to the military leaders who have the best information about what is going on that balloon. just as an example, over the aleutian islands, the balloon
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could have been shot down. it would have been shot down over waters almost two miles deep. so recovering that payload would have been very, very difficult. whereas, obviously now it's in waters that are 47 feet deep off south carolina, which is much easier to recover. so that's the type of information where i would just respectfully submit to my republican colleagues, wait, get the facts, and then make your conclusions after you hear from the military leaders. >> not to mention the more than 8,000 people that live on the aleutian islands. does this incident hurt your efforts to work in a bipartisan way with the chairman of the committee, mike gallagher, and other republicans? >> i don't think so. i think we have to refocus and just make sure that we uncover the facts. we lay them out for all of our committee members and the american people, and then we take steps to deal with those facts, with those challenges and threats.
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if we do that, i think we'll be true to our mission, but we can't engage in speculation or rhetoric that would be counterproductive. >> congressman, thank you so much. good to see you. coming up next, senator mitt romney dishes on what he said in that frosty exchange last night with congressman george santos. stay with us. -diversification, futures, options. fiduciary. leverage. [whispering] -frothy markets. psst. virtual real estate is a lock. ♪ colold hard cash ♪ j.p. morgan wealth management knows the world is full of financial noise. i'm looking at your asset mix and plan. you are right on track. great, thanks. our easy-to-use app and local advisors are here to help you figure out what's right for your investments. j.p. morgan wealth management. your record label is taking off. but so is your sound engineer. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers qlity candidates
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i didn't expect he was standing there, trying to shake hands with every senator and the president of the united states. given the fact that he's under ethics investigation, he should
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be sitting in the back row quiet. he shouldn't be in congress, and they're going to go through the process to hopefully get him out. he shouldn't be there. if he had any shame at all, he wouldn't be there. >> that's the key phrase, if he had any shame at all, he wouldn't be there. congressman george santos, utterly without shame by all facts and appearances. mitt romney joining a growing list of republicans with the distraction from santos. romney saying he told santos, you don't belong here. santos responded to romney earlier today. >> i think it's reprehensible the senator would say such a thing to me. it wasn't very mormon of him. and he called me other stuff and used other derogatory language. yes, he did. >> and now house speaker kevin mccarthy is adding to the war of wards after romney said he was disappointing that he had not
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asked santos to resign. mccarthy said he should call on democratic congressman eric swalwell to resign. so santos claims romney used derogatory language, i believe he called him an ass. >> that's what santos had claimed to reporters on the hill. >> that's not really a curse. maybe he meant it as a donkey. you covered romney. what do you make of this all? >> yes. well, first of all, i'm not lds, so i don't think i can speak to what a mormon is or isn't. >> and either is santos. or perhaps he is. >> i'm unclear on that part. but if anything, you know, it is actually in fact very much in keeping with mitt romney's faith and belief in character that he would go up to george santos and say something like this to him on the floor.
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sa santos hasn't repeated the word you said on esche, and i'm not going to repeat it -- >> ass? i think he means it as a donkey. you can call somebody as an ass. >> maybe. >> it's donkile. >> for those of us who have known romney, profanity is not a thing. so if he said that i would be surprised. i believe mitt romney over george santos, just because of the record. >> and mccarthy's response to romney's mild criticism that he was disappointed that mccarthy hasn't called on santos to resign, is to go after romney for not calling on eric swalwell to resign. >> if you went back 24 hours before the state of the union, just imagine what mccarthy was envisioning for day-after
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messaging. this is probably the last thing. all of this tit for tat, his own members of the party, fighting with each other, making these accusations against each other. kevin mccarthy, he's been trying to focus, at least he says the messaging of his party, on the biden administration. on trying to have this debate between big spending and whether or not these packages are fueling rising prices. none of the attention goes there when your own party is in disarray like this. this, this can't be what he wanted. it's probably the last thing he wanted. the attempt to flip it on romney or talk about eric swalwell or just try to point it to the democrat party is an attempt to refocus the criticism elsewhere. but i don't know if that's working. >> that's the point of people who are calling for santos to resign, is that he's a distraction, because he's constantly there, utterly
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shameless. take a listen to what this congressman said about his fellow new york republican. >> he's a sociopath, george santos. he looks for that attention, even the negative attention drives him. it's become an embarrassment to the republicans in the house. every time i have to talk about george santos, i can't talk about what republicans ought to be doing instead. >> he's not wrong. >> there you go. >> the point that you just head about it being a distraction from the messaging is 100% right. it is interesting to wonder what we we would be talking about in an alternate universe if the cameras hadn't captured that one moment where people would lip read and figure out the exchange between santos and spicy mitt. [ laughter ] >> he's a distraction, but also, let's not forget the bigger issue is the ethics violations, the campaign finance stuff, the money side. that's what is going to keep this going. not weird insults and schoolyard
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fights and high school drama. it's going to be law enforcement that is going to keep this going until he steps down. >> and the other thing i would say, even if it weren't santos v. romney, kevin mccarthy had hoped for an on message republican party. yet some of the members of his party, who had made mccarthy's life so tough a month ago were literally heckling joe biden, including margorie taylor greene. she is defiant today about her booing, saying that biden was a liar about something that what he said was accurate. so here's margorie taylor greene. >> i got so many messages from people in my district and people across the country. it was like i won my election again. he got exactly what he deserved, and i'm not sorry one bit. and i don't think speaker mccarthy is upset with any of us
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for expressing our views and being unwilling to allow the president to lie. >> again, the fact is that romney -- sorry, joe biden said very specifically, it's a minority of republicans, not a majority, like emphasized. but he said has talked about sunsetting medicare and social security. and senator rick scott talked about sunsetting every federal program, which includes medicare and social security. >> cnn did a fact check on this. bottom line, margery taylor green and the rest of the gop caucus got schooled by joe biden last night. that's a master class the way he ended up getting everybody to agree. okay, so social security, medicare, off the table. he also, i have to tell you, who expected that the state of the union would be so entertaining. i guess we should expect that from now on given this congress. but he was having fun with it, and he was in better control of
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that room than kevin mccarthy. of his own members. mccarthy is shushing and biden is like, let's bring i say, we're talking about santos, that means we haven't been talking about kemp mccarthy to get the members of his congress to shut up, which is not something i remember seeing. big picture, i was in the room in 2009 when joe wilson yelled "you lie," and you would have thought that the world had broken, right? >> he was censured. >> right. but going down to the speaker's lobby after the speech, everyone was appalled. there were a lot of layers to it. this was the country's first black president, a southern white man. but to go from that, and i remember how visceral the reaction was to that and how horrible it seemed at the time and the way people treated it, and everyone was appalled. to the times that we are now, 15
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years later, and to have margorie taylor greene stand up and yell liar, and then get on tv saying look, she basically did what she came to do, and everyone is shrugging their shoulders. that is the different ce and ho our politics have changed. >> when that "you lie" moment, this was the beginning of the internet fund-raising days, and that was a big fund raising moment for joe wilson. not to say that it was a good thing. but suddenly that awakens a lot of people to a new incentive structure that takes you from that moment to optics of nancy pelosi tears up the speech, republicans yelling back at biden. then it becomes more of a circus, because there's an incentive to do things outrageous. >> look, we saw a 15-round circus, right? like, go, you know, mitt romney. he's exactly right. this is the clown car, and, again, we're talking about george santos.
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we're talking about margorie taylor greene, heckling. that is not the decor rum, that is not the speakership that mccarthy thought he was getting into. >> the result of this is also somewhat intentional. white house officials today, and aides that have been working on the strategy moving forward, as we get to maybe a likely potential re-election announcement, a main part of the strategy is drawing the contrast of the economic policies of the white house, and for a while, they were looking for a foe there, and they found it with some of the prose posals coming from republicans, and also the heckling put a spotlight on some of those proposals. >> it was an effort to show, bring it on, he's ready for the fight. it was not just about the substance, but it was leer that stylistically, he wanted to send a message, i'm ready. >> and the thing too, kevin mccarthy was not trying to shush people out of some sort of civic
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duty, right? he had -- like, this is not how we should behave and this behavior has lost us general elections. so he knows that. and for the white house to be able to put that on display is absolutely a political win. >> joe biden loving this exchange is because think about, in my view, the number one audience for him last night was nervous democrats, were worried, and that first 30 minutes of the speech, i thought, that's a big binder they eave got left. if i was a democratic voter, i don't know how i would be feeling about this. >> the big fear about him is that he seems weak, old, fragile, and then margorie taylor greene sent him an in-kind contribution from the back row. thanks one and all. coming up next, how one of the police officers charged in tyre nichols' death claims he
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in our national lead, cnn attained an affidavit showing how one former memphis police officer tried to defend his actions on the night that tyre nichols was beaten. justin smith claims he called for help for nichols, followed his training and tried to help nickelling at one given point. nick, does his account line up with other evidence? >> reporter: the short answer, jake, is no. it does represent the first account that has emerged of one of the officers involved in tyre nichols' death. smith says he nichols, that he called for medical help because he heard reports of pepper spray used and
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he wanted medical help on the scene. this affidavit says that he was fired for unnecessary use of force and failing to provide aid to tyre nichols despite being a certified emt. this new batch of documents shows the lengths that officers involved in tyre nichols' death went to cover up their actions by hiding their body cameras, laughing what they did to tyre nichols after the fact, and misleading investigators with contradictory statements. >> tyre nichols' mother and step stepfather, who attended joe biden's state of the union address last night in washington, d.c. spoke with cnn's don lemon earlier today. what did they have to say? >> reporter: well, it's interesting. they had been adamant about the passage of the legislation, the george floyd justice and policing act. it's one of the reforms passed by the city council to support that legislation. listen to what they had to say this morning about why they believe that legislation is so important.
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>> if they had passed the george floyd bill initially, my son may not have died tragically the way he did. >> if they don't do anything, the government, then they're showing me they have no humanity and that they're not for the people, because i am part of the people. so you need to get off your butts and get this bill passed. we can't have another tyre. >> reporter: the fallout over nichols' death continues. seven more officers are facing disciplinary action, bringing the total to 13 officers involved, either having faced or will face discipline for their actions. >> nick, thank you so much. just days before the super bowl, the nfl commissioner is sharing a strong opinion about philadelphia eagles fans. the a,
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we have some fantastic news in our sports lead. an nfl players union doctor is guarantee the buffalo bills player "hamiltdamar hamlin wille to play. he had been sidelined since that collapse last month. he went in cardiac arrest, meaning his heart stopped beating. today he is accepting an award for service to his community showing his remarkable recovery. coy wire is in phoenix, tsite o the amazing beautiful philadelphia eagles and some other tome. what did hamlin say? >> reporter: that other team, those kansas city chiefs, third super bowl in four years, need i remind you, jake. damar hamlin thanked his dad on
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stage with him. he said it was his dad who was always giving back, uplifting their community, and he instilled those values in him. and so damar hamlin says, you know, that that $9 million that fans rallied to raise for his foundation, he is not going to take that for granted. he says now it's his turn to make an impact. here he is. >> one of my favorite quotes is a blessing to be a blessing. w with that being said, i plan to never take this position for granted and always have an urgent approach in making a difference in the community where i come from and also communities across the world. >> reporter: it was surreal, jake. a surprise appearance at that nfl players association press conference when he walked out on to the stage, people stood up and cheered. so uplifting, encouraging sight after suffering that cardiac arrest on the field just over a month ago. >> just incredible. nfl commissioner roger goodell was sasked today why the number
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of concussions is up this season. what did he have to say? >> reporter: yeah, and up 18% from last season in concussions. most notably, kick-offs. goodell says that the number may have gone up because of evaluations. those for potential concussions went up as well by 17%. so they changed the definition of what a concussion is this season. so now, jake, they feel that that's a large part of the reason. they still hope to have better helmets in the future and more rule changes to prevent head-to-head contact as much as possible. >> i hear mr. goodell said something about one of the greatest groups of americans known to the country, eagles fans. what did he have to say? >> reporter: yeah, he had nothing but great words to say about the kind and courteous kansas city chiefs. but the commissioner may not feel quite the same about the eagles, who are, you know,
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they -- maybe more of a villain in his eye. he was asked how he feels when he is booed by fans. here is his answer. >> i actually love it, personally, because, you know, it's a way for fans to interact. it's a way for them to be a part of it. philadelphia fans are pretty good at booing, let me stell yo. >> reporter: jake, i am from pennsylvania. i love our home state and philadelphia. but i will say this. my parents didn't miss games during my nine-year nfl career but there were two places they refused to wear my jersey out of fear of getting dumped with beer or worse, jake, and one of them was your beloved philadelphia. >> well, all i'll say to mr. goodell is sometimes we have things to boo about. i think he knows what he is talking about. coy wire in phoenix, thank you. the nba has a new points king. >> will epic blebron james, the
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history! lebron stands alone! >> los angeles lakers lebron james with the fadeaway jumper to seal his name as the league's all-time leading scorer. topping kareem abdul-jabbar's nearly 40-year-old record. lebron now leads with 38,390 points. a number that will keep growing the longer the 38-year-old keeps playing. cnn's omar jimenez is in l.a. somehow wrangled this assignment. was there to witness last night's historic moment. omar, tough gig. the lakers we should point out lost the game to the oklahoma city thunder, but tell us what it was like to be there. >> yeah, i mean, look, we haven't slept much. i am trying to convince myself i wasn't screaming when we watched this. as the countdown got closer to the record being broken, there was a countdown clock on the scoreboard. when it was two points away, everybody was on their feet, phones out and with a fade from the left elbow and flick of the
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wrist it was the history that everybody was there to see. many people, including lebron, thought this record would never be broken. when he was finally announced as the nba's all-time leading scorer, you saw the emotion well up in him immediately and kareem abdul-jabbar again whose record lebron broke wrote after the game in part that is the magic of sports, to see something seemingly impossible, reminding us if one person can do it, we share in that achievement. it's what sends children on to playgrounds to duplicate a lebron layup. when you talk about magic, lebron scored 38 points to break the record. that got him to 38,388 points. it's been 38 years since the previous record. he did it last night, the 38th day of the year and lebron james 38 years old. so yesterday would have been the day to bet on 38. >> just a point. the last time this happened when
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kareem took it away from chamber lin, you were nine years away from being born. >> reporter: lebron is roughly halfway through his 20th season on the subject of age. how long can we expect the king to keep playing? when kareem reached this, he was older than lebron right now. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. lebron at this point says he feels good. he hopes to play for another few seasons. he has a lot to play for. he still feels like he can bring himself some championships, to run up this points total to the point where it truly might be unbreakable and a very important factor that his oldest son is close to playing in college basketball potentially the nba. they could play together in the future. >> all right. omar jimenez in los angeles, thanks so much. follow me on facebook, instagram and twitter. tweet the show at "the lead." if you miss an episode of the show, you can listen to t lede"the lead." our coverage continues with one
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