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"vote for joe." that is simple. remember, for latest political news any time, you can always check out cnn remember, you can also follow what is going on here in "the situation room." i'm on twitter. you can get my tweets. go to cnn, that's all one word. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." up next, campbell brown. hey, everybody. on capitol hill today, a surprise admission from eric holder. the attorney general said he believes osama bin laden will never be captured alive. and that story is topping the mash-up tonight. we're watching it all so you don't have to. holder made his comments during a congressional hearing this afternoon. republican lawmakers were grilling him on whether terror suspects should be tried in civilian courts. watch this.
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>> granting osama bin laden the right to appear in a u.s. courtroom, you are clothing osama bin laden with the protections of the u.s. constitution. that's unavoidable, and something you have skipped right past. it's giving constitutional rights to enemy soldiers that is the profound problem, sir. >> we talk about a hypothetical that will never occur. the reality is that we will be reading miranda rights to the corpse of osama bin laden. he will never appear in an american courtroom. >> but it is -- >> that's the reality. that's the reality. >> as for the question of where to try alleged 9/11 mastermind khalid shaikh mohammed, that decision is still very much in the air. on the health care. democrats are fending off accusations they are using legislative trickery to pass a bill. and it's still not clear they have the votes they need. take a listen. >> when your dog needs to take a pill, but they don't want to eat the pill, you put the pill
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inside like a biscuit. >> the procedure allows members to vote on one bill while automatically deeming another is passed. in this case, the house would vote on a fix-it measure that would make changes to the senate health care bill. and then in the process automatically pass the senate bill, without actually voting on it. >> anybody who thinks they can sneak this bill through and deem it all these other tricks, there is no way to hide from the biggest vote that most members of congress will ever cast. >> i didn't hear any of that ferocity when the hundreds of times the republicans used these methods when they were in power. >> kill the bill, kill the bill! >> reporter: outside the capitol, a few hundred members of the conservative tea party movement called on congress to kill the democratic health care reform as republicans urged them to keep fighting. >> much more on this story tonight. we're going to talk with the congressman in charge of keeping the house in democratic hands. and in other news, in israel
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today, a day of rage, and here at home, hillary clinton was publicly trying to smooth tensions with the israeli government. >> early this morning, protests broke out near the settlements in jerusalem's old city. masked palestinian protesters throwing rocks. israeli police in full riot gear firing back with tear gas and stun grenades. >> reporter: there is little doubt that secretary of state hillary clinton has been as mad at the israeli government as she ever has been. but you wouldn't have known that today. >> we have a close, unshakeable bond between the united states and israel. but that doesn't mean that we're going to agree. we don't agree with any of our international partners on everything. >> reporter: she made her concerns known in a pointed 43-minute phone call to israel's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, telling him the u.s. expected him to reverse the announcement expanding the building in east jerusalem and take additional steps to reassure the palestinians.
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>> netanyahu, however, says the settlements will go forward. he did apologize, though, for the timing of the announcement, which came during a visit from vice president joe biden. espn's erin andrews spoke out today about her video stalker. insurance executive michael barrett was sentenced to two and a half years behind bars yesterday for shooting nude videos of andrews through hotel peepholes. barrett made a tearful apology in court, but andrews not buying it. listen to what she said on "good morning america." >> i wanted him to know i think more than anything he got very emotional when he talked about his children. and how he felt bad for how he let them down. and i wanted to know, i'm a daughter to two parents. and they are just mortified. and they're just so upset. and they feel so bad for me. and i wanted him to know as a daughter what he did to me. i think he feels bad he was caught. i don't think for a minute this
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man, after following as many women as he did, and, you know, the fbi agents said they had a box full of evidence on this guy, i don't think he ever thought he was going to get caught. and i think that's why he is sorry. >> barrett was ordered to pay $5,000 in fines and more than $7,000 in restitution. the sports world breathing a sigh of relief tonight. tiger woods has announced his return to professional golf. he'll be playing in the masters, beginning on april 8th. >> why the masters? well, because it is a tightly controlled tournament. yes, he loves playing there. yes, he has won it in the past. the fans that go there are considered the cream de la creme. >> after it led to unraveling of his personal life in a very public way, woods said, quote, after a long and necessary time away from the game, i feel like i'm ready to start my season at augusta. >> it was just three weeks ago that woods said he had so much
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work to do to heal his family, his return to golf was uncertain. >> i do plan to return to golf one day. i just don't know when that day will be. >> for pro golf and broadcasters, it could induce theme park quality thrills. ratings are up 93% when woods plays. >> there is a lot of good golf going on, but not the great golf when tiger woods plays. i think golf really needs to have him back. >> the president of cbs sports predicts woods' return will be one of the biggest media events of the past decade, second only to president obama's inauguration. and that brings us to the punch line. this is courtesy of jay leno. if you think there is nothing funny about toyota troubles, well, take a look at this. >> on the "today" show, they did a segment on what to do if your prius loses control there is a button you press. again, this didn't seem like the solution. take a look. >> we want to reiterate some of the points that experts had given us. you've got to hold the power
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button down. >> yeah, see that's -- that doesn't seem right. >> and that's jay leno, everybody. that is ""the mash-up."" tonight republicans furious about the last-ditch efforts are considering to get health care passed this week. we're talking with speaker pelosi's inner circle to approve the bill without a vote. [ female announcer ] treat yourself to something special for lunch. how about a coastal soup and grilled shrimp salad combination? or maybe our new savory shrimp jambalaya. seafood lunches starting at just $6.99 at red lobster. it can take so much out of you. i feel like i have to wind myself up just to get out of bed. then... well... i have to keep winding myself up
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crucial week for president obama's health care overhaul just took a dramatic new twist. democrats are now vowing to do whatever it takes to get reform passed. in fact, speaker nancy pelosi is now considering a strategy to allow the house to approve the senate bill without actually voting for it. instead, the house could simply vote to, quote, deem the bill passed before moving on to vote for more changes in the senate language. now this is a little tricky, but the move could give political cover in theory to democrats who aren't fully on board with the bill. republicans, though, are fighting to the end, condemning what they see as a ramming through of the bill no matter what the costs. listen. >> the idea that the senate bill could be deemed as passed on the house floor without members of congress being asked to vote for it, i believe is not just tramples on the common sense and insults the intelligence of the american people, but really
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tramples on the constitution of the united states. >> congressman chris van holland chairs the committee he serves as speaker pelosi's assistant. congressman, you know, health care has been such a tough battle. this year-long battle. is this really the way that democrats want to pass this legislation, essentially using this kind of legislative trick? >> well, what we're finding, campbell, is our republican colleagues no longer want to talk about the substance of the bill and the merits of the bill and how it will reduce premiums and how it will prevent insurance companies from denying coverage to people who have preexisting conditions, and they want to focus on process. but what they're not telling people is what we're going to pass in the house is an amended version of the senate bill. they are trying very hard to create the impression that the house is just going to be passing the senate bill. and that's not the case. and by the way, this is a procedure that has been used many time and was used by
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republican colleagues on a budget reconciliation bill as recently as 2006 when they were in the majority. it's a little bit of crocodile tear advice to say. >> okay, take republicans, though, and put them aside, because this really is just about democrats right now. and to somebody like me, to the average person who is watching all of this unfold, we're thinking really? it comes down to these little bizarre legislative maneuvers? why can't our members of congress, our lawmakers just vote yes on health care reform or no i'm against health care reform and tell the american people how they really feel about it. is that asking so much? >> it's not. that's what we're doing. we're going fob voting up or down on health care reform. we're going to be voting up or down on the issue of the senate bill as we're modifying it to take out the provisions that i think the american public wants us to take out, like the nebraska deal. and include the other provisions like the crackdown on waste, fraud and abuse in medicare that some of our republican colleagues propose. they're going to get an up or
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down vote. look. the republicans don't want to talk about the procedures, the insurance companies are using to deny people care -- >> but put all that aside. again, this isn't about republicans and their talking points. this is about you and your talking points right now. >> no -- >> it's been made clear here that the whole reason this is even come into play is certain members of congress don't need some political cover because they're very concerned about november, and they're having a hard time supporting this. and is that what this is about? >> no, but clearly what is happening is you say it's not about a our republican colleagues, but they're clearly succeeding in distracting the conversation away from the merits here because we are having an up or down vote. >> so do you believe right now that you have the votes to pass this bill, given however you decide to go about getting it done? >> well, i think the momentum is there. if you were to say do we have a hard count today? i'd say no.
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but if you look at the count today and you make an educated guess, based on what people are hearing from their constituents, i think the momentum is clearly with us. >> donna brazile tweeted if a handful of democrats decide to defeat this bill, they deserve to get a primary challenge. one of president obama's former top campaign advisers ask now threatening to run against his local congresswoman if she votes no. you're in charge of keeping the house in democratic hands. what do you make of these threats? >> well, we will have the votes when the time comes to vote on this. people doubted whether or not we would have the votes on many other big issues that we've decided here in the house. and at the end of the day, we've been able to put together the majority. so people are going to listen to their constituents, and they're going the reach independent judgments about the best way forward. but i'm very confident that at the end of the day, a great majority of our members are going to say we need to do
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health care reform and we need to do it now. and that's why i'm confident that it will pass. >> congressman chris van hollen, i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thank you, campbell. and with me now is senior political correspondent and state of the union host candy crowley. so candy, you heard the congressman there. republicans are calling this a legislative scheme, a trick. congressman van hollen saying that's absolutely not true. where is the truth here? >> well, the truth is that there are house democrats who don't want to vote for the senate bill, which they have to pass in order to get health care. it's one of two bills they have to pass. so to make that more palatable, they are going to have what is called a rules vote, which we don't need to go into, but it's just another vote. it's like voting for the senate health care bill once removed. why do this? because then you're not on record as having passed a bill that gave special -- special compensation to nebraska or any of the other things that the house doesn't like about the
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senate bill. so it isn't a direct up or down vote. now, there will be a direct or down vote, and that's on the second package, which is the fix-it package. the things the house wants to do to that senate bill. so there is -- and it's not a little used legislative thing. generally you know when this happens, campbell, it happens when they go to raise the debt. nobody wants their name on a bill that says that they raised the debt to another trillion. so they vote on the rule and deem it passed because then their name isn't on that debt bill. >> you wonder if anybody really buys it in this day and age. >> exactly. >> it's silly. >> it does. but it gives the house members cover who might otherwise not vote for it, and then doom this bill. >> right. so is it something i guess the white house is worrying about? what are you hearing from the police department's aides on this? >> they're not worried about the process, as they say. sheer what the white house wants. they want the bill, okay. >> they don't care how they get
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it. >> they don't care how they get there. and you know why? because they think a week or two weeks after this bill is signed into law and people understand the consumer patient protection rights that are in there having to do with insurance that no one is going to say but they deemed it to be passed. they think this is nonsense. >> i do want to show some of the people some of this video and hear some sound from capitol hill. these interest protesters. hundreds of protesters on the hill today -- excuse me -- not fans of the bill. let's take a listen. >> kill the bill! kill the bill! >> i'm american, and i'm mad. >> so join me here. let's deem it dead! >> we didn't ask for a last-ditch effort. we're asking them to ditch this effort! ditch this effort! >> it is not only republicans who are unhappy about it. you do have a lot of independents, a lot of conservative democrats. i mean, presumably, there is nothing that can be said at this
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point to bring them over. and i'm guessing the white house is really just relying on these core people which is why this is so close? >> well, actually, here is what the white house thinks will help. they think it will help when it becomes law. they think that people will take a second look at it. because what do they know? they know that there are huge elements within the bill that people do support. it's just kind of the totality. people like the parts, somehow they just don't like the totality. and again, the white house thinks the only way you're going to move these people and move these numbers is that you get that into law, and people will take a second look at. >> candy crowley, thanks. a total breakdown in detroit's schools, and now an ambitious plan to try to save them by shutting half of them down. we're going to talk to one of the city's reformers on whether it can really work for the kids there, when we come back. [ male announcer ] when we built our first hybrid,
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detroit's public schools are facing a radical overhaul right now. plagued with one of the country's worst drop-out rates, the district has unveiled a multimillion plan to close more than 40 schools while boosting graduation rates to 98% in just five years. last night the district's
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emergency financial manager robert bob defended the massive restructuring. >> some people may think, as i stated earlier, that our plan is too ambitious, but the bottom line is that we have lagged behind for far too long. >> so is the plan overdue? is it simply too disruptive? joining us now to talk about this is doug ross, who is the founder of the university preparatory system, a charter school that has been extremely successful in boosting graduation rates. welcome to you, sir. >> thanks. >> i just want to ask you. the detroit public school system has consistently lagged behind the rest of the country. it's high school graduation rate is only 58%, far below the national average, 89%. why? why has the system struggled and performed so poorly? >> i think essentially because they've stuck with the system of obsolete, old factory schools. just the way the factories of detroit could no longer build a
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car that was world class unless they began to change them, the same has been true for the detroit public schools. but because they were a monopoly so long, campbell, they just kept running those big impersonal standardized schools. and they haven't worked for a quarter century. and they still aren't. >> so why do you think shutting down schools, i guess, is more effective than trying to fix them or reform them? >> well, i think the really big news is a week ago, a broad civic coalition in detroit unveiled a reform plan which for the first time offers hope, even if the detroit public schools fail. and it calls for the closing of virtually all detroit public schools, charter schools, private schools that aren't performing, and opening more than 70 new schools using organizations from all around the country that have a track record of successfully educating urban kids. so hopefully this plan robert bobb announced will work, but even if it doesn't, i think we
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finally have a dramatic plan in place that can offer kids some hope. in the future. >> how are people reacting to it generally? because it is pretty dramatic to talk about something this massive. i mean, you're talking about a lot of teachers losing their jobs, a lot of parents who are sort of curious as to how this is going to work itself out. >> yeah, i think people are uncertain. i think one of the challenges for parents is when you talk to them, they will agree bad schools ought to be closed. but they usually don't want their school closed, even if in fact it's a bad one because it's convenient. it's nearby. and robert bobb hopefully will be closing a lot of failing schools. but i think the encouraging news is, we have often talked about comparing this to putting a man on the moon. when john kennedy announced that challenge, we really didn't know how to put a man on the moon. but we actually today do know how to graduate more than 90% of urban kids from high school and send more than 90% on to college. we know how to do it. but i could take you on a tour
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of 200 urban schools that know how to do it. so we know how to do it. we now have to get rid of these big obsolete schools that don't work, and put in place schools that do. and i think we actually know how to do it. >> and you have done that. you launched your charter school in detroit at the middle school level in 2000, and then at the high school level i think in 2003, if i have that right. >> you do. >> you've seen some pretty incredible results. why? what is it? what is the secret here, given what you have experienced? >> well, the thing that kind of surprise med is first and foremost, it's culture. it's a culture of enormously high expectation that says kind of with the middle class message, of course you're going graduate. of course you're going to college. the only question is where and what are you going to study. secondly, very strong personal relationships between each child and one or more adults in the school. rigorous college prep not watered down curriculum. and a teacher staff that is
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committed to the mission, that is willing to do whatever it takes. that gives their cell phone number to every kid and family, and you can call them 24/7. you do those things, you graduate 90 to 100% of your kids no matter how poor. >> well, we really appreciate you coming on and talking to us about what is working, what is not working. and we certainly wish you the best of luck, doug ross. thanks for joining us tonight. i appreciate it. >> my pleasure. coming up, new details in the murder of a pregnant american gunned down in the streets of mexico. find out why the fbi now thinks it may have been a case of mistaken identity. -at-no-cost- to-your-company insurance. if all you know about us is... aflac! ...then you don't know quack. to find out more visit a tornado hits, air life denver takes off... their night-vision goggles keeping the rescue mission safe... and powering those goggles-- the only battery air life trusts: duracell.
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new information on the three americans who were murdered over the weekend in juarez, mexico. you'll remember among those killed was a pregnant american woman who worked at the u.s. consulate who was gunned down with her husband in broad daylight. after leaving a children's birthday party. well, now an fbi spokesman says the working theory is that it was a case of mistaken identity. juarez is the most violent city in the world, with more than 2500 drug-related killings last year alone. michael weir spent an evening on patrol there. and just a word of caution here. some of the pictures in this piece are very graphic. >> reporter: this footage is difficult to watch. these anguished cries impossible to forget. relatives entering this building seeking the bodies of their loved ones, executed by a mexican drug cartel.
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you're witnessing the pain of the mexican border town of juarez. the front line in the war on drugs. and this a crime scene i just had to see for myself. there is so much violence that occurs here in juarez that the world just does not hear about. and now it's disconcerting to see this fresh paint here on these walls as an woman make herself home in this building. just two months ago, this literally was a corridor of blood. this building had been a drug rehabilitation center. and one of the major cartels suspected that its rivals were recruiting foot soldiers from among the patients. so they came in this door and down this corridor, moving from room to room to room, executing everyone they found.
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while they're now trying to build a home, this is where 17 people died in yet another day of juarez violence. within two days of this attack, the death toll rose even higher when two survivors died in hospital. and there is no discrimination to the slaughter. under these clothes lies a 7-year-old american boy. his father the target, but the hitman chose not to let the child live. on this day, we're in juarez to see the horrors for ourselves. it's just before dusk as i approach a fresh crime scene. the man in that car was hit by cartel gunmen, riddled with eight bullets. his passenger tried to flee. but only made it that far. this was yet another afternoon of killing in juarez, with a night of murder yet to follow. every night joint patrols like
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this one between local and federal police and mexican soldiers crisscross the city, trying desperately to stem the flow of blood. things were so bad that earlier in the year, the mexican president had to call in the military to help protect the city. there is a lull in the violence, but it quickly returned. now it's worse than it's ever been before. by now it's close to 10:00 p.m., and the reports of violence are streaming in over the police radio. just received another call on the radio. there is some kind of incident. but those lights there, that's america. the u.s. border. this reminds you just how close this war on drugs is brought to american soil. but before the night is over, there is even more carnage to
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come. all this in our one afternoon and evening visit to this deadly city. this time it's almost too much to bear. it's just after 11:00. and where you see those policemen gathered at this door, there has just been four more slayings. this time all women. the early reports are that a gunman walked in that door and executed all of them. one of them a 12-year-old girl, another one 14. and in a gut-wrenching irony, all of this done with the american border crossing just here, 80 yards away. there can be no more pertinent reminder of the mexican blood that is being spilled in this war for the right to supply
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america's demand for illicit drugs. michael ware, cnn, juarez, mexico. >> and coming up, five hours in the air, then another 11 on the ground. a routine virgin air flight from l.a. to new york got el really ugly. one passenger videotaped the whole ordeal and put it online as it was happening. host: could switching to geico really save you
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and the whole thing was captured in realtime online by passengers who used the plane's wifi to tweet and to send video of what was happening on board. joining me right now is one of those passengers, david martin who is the ceo of the social networking service contain. david, it's good to have you here. i know you believe social networking is the story what happened on this plane. >> right. >> back me up a little bit. i guess first you filmed all of this, right? >> right. me and some of the people that were with me that work in the same company. >> so at what point did you think hey, it's time to pull out the camera here? >> definitely i already had the camera from minute one when we came out the gate. when we took off from l.a.x., and showing everyone look at the l.a.x. grid down there, even coming in over chicago, was as i went on and then we got a announcement saying hey, listen, folks, we're going to circle around here for a while, and we might be rung
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out of fuel short slowly. we have to divert over to stewart international. >> okay. so when did you think okay, i need to start filming for other reasons than this? >> all right. so for the more nasty reasons, what happened is when we landed in stewart international, a bumpy landing, we had passengers after a while that wanted to get off the aircraft, naturally. >> because you were stuck there. >> two hours on the tarmac at that stage. and what happened is the steward or the supervisor from stewart international came to the plane and wouldn't let people off the aircraft. so we start to pull out the cameras then and contain things as they happened live on the aircraft. >> a and the flight attendants actually yelling? >> what happened is they got a little agitated and they yelled at a couple of passengers telling them to shut up and getting on their nerves. and another flight attendant that went even further. it was little bit of a physical altercation. and it was a bit of a mess. but it made for good footage. >> okay. and i was reading they ran out of food i guess also. >> right. >> so you guys were given the
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option to get off the plane, right? >> right. >> what happened? >> well, let's be very clear about that. we were given the option and then it was taken away from us. so some passengers, the first flight passengers got off the plane, then another 16 passengers wanted to get off. but this was not the full diversion where everyone would get off. this was the fault specifically of the stewart international supervisor who made it very clear shouting that people are not getting off this aircraft. i don't care about this aircraft. i'm not coming back to this aircraft. it was appalling. we basically didn't have the best time. but we tried to inject a lot of positivity into the cabin because the flight attendants were also having a pretty stressful moment. >> yes. so how is virgin responded to all this? and who do you blame in this? >> well, virgin responded quite well. and because they had seen everything on as it was going on as it happened, the ceo of virgin, david curb called me on sunday and we had a conversation about what went on.
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both of us are ceos and we feel it's very important to move forward and exercise leadership where we can lead in the field of how we exercise, you know, good sense of line how to deal with this kind of situation in the future. so jetblue and american airlines especially then can follow. but who to blame? basically, i would say the international -- stewart international supervisor in that airport did not make an effort to help virgin get to the gate. so it was two separate snoyrnts two separate stories. one where stewart completely failed, as in the airport. and the other where the flight attendants on virgin definitely had -- could have had better moments. >> i do know there was one high point for you. >> right. >> you were sitting by one of the judges from "dancing with the stars." >> that's right. carianne. >> absolutely. one of the most amazing people i've ever met. she actually helped with the passengers when they were getting agitated and tried to calm them down. she is an amazing, amazing person. we talked since the flight and we've become friends since. >> it's a fascinating story.
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coming up, tiger's comeback now set. he is playing the masters next month. it will all be forgotten if he wins. first, though, more must-see news happening. hey, mike. >> hi, campbell. thieves cut a hole in the roof and rappelled into the connecticut warehouse of pharmaceutical giant eli lilly. it happened sunday morning. they weren't there for the money, but they made off with a fortune, about $75 million worth of prescription drugs, enough to fill a tractor-trailer. well, anti-childhood obesity advocates, they're cheering today. pepsi announced it will pull full calorie sugar drinks from schools all over the world. it's the first major soda maker to do so. the move follows similar changes by pepsi and rival coke here in the u.s., and this will happen over a couple of years. and there could be a real situation this year at the white house correspondents dinner. mtv jersey shore cast member
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mike sorrentino says he is looking for an invite to the event. the buffed up sorrentino says he's heard it's a day where the biggest celebrities get to meet the president. he considers himself one, by the way. he wants in. he says he cleans himself up. he says his show is one of the biggest shows of the year and he is the main character of the show, and a breakout star as well. and humble also. >> clearly. i bet he gets an invite to that event. i would not be in the most surprised. mike galanos, thank you very much. "larry king live" starts in just a few minutes. larry, what do you have tonight? >> larry: campbell, we've got tragedy. convicted sex offenders put in prison, and then released, only to rape, even to kill again. how and why does this continue to happen? we're going to talk to the parents of 17-year-old chelsea king. a registered sex offender was just charged in her death. police are looking to see if he is connected with the death of another young girl in the same area. plus, how can we prevent these crimes and protect the kids? sobering and important hour ahead, campbell, on "larry king live." >> all right, larry. we will see you in just a few
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tiger woods announced today he'll tee off at one of golf's biggest tournaments, the masters at augusta national next month. and setting the stage for what may be one of the most matched golf events in history. and joining us right now is david dusek, and in washington is christine brennan, columnist for usa today and author of "best seat in the house." welcome to both of you. david, i guess this isn't a huge surprise. the masters is this very tightly controlled event, and i think the last sometime you were here
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you sort of predicted that he would use this because it was such a perfect place for his return. explain what you meant. >> yeah, this is a venue that sun like any other place in sports. when you think of big sporting events, you think of corporate signage. there is none of that at augusta. you won't see a logo any place on the grounds. even if they bring in a water bottle, please take off the label there is none of that type of stuff. this is sport in its most pure. they really sort of hold that to be near and dear. you're not going to see tabloid media crashing the gates. you're not going to see people running around holding up signs. when tiger shows up to play at the masters, hee will be in the most protected environment he could possibly make his entry back into the sport in. >> they obviously know that. >> of course. >> christine, i was a little surprised by your reaction to today's announcement. you say you believe it shows he is a fraud. explain what you mean. >> well, that's the screaming headline. by the way, i agree with david completely about masters, the loving embrace that tiger will get.
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it makes perfect sense for him. what i'm referring to is his announcement that we all watched 25 days ago where in the 12-minute of a 13 1/2 minute speech, campbell, tiger saying i will come back to the game one day. i don't know when that day will be. i don't rule out that it will be this year. boy, you hear that and you look at this broken man, and i took him at his word, as did many columnists and i think many fans. and then to hear that one day is in fact 25 days away. wow. that was fast. i wish him well. i think it's a terrific recovery. but is that real? or is that a fraud? that's what i'm asking. >> does she not have a point there? >> absolutely. i think there is no question there is a point. i was one of the people, i came on and we talked about it. i was pretty convince wed may not see tiger woods until 2011, the u.s. open in june, much later. i'm sort of wondering what happened. and the only thing i can think of is he and his wife elin had a discussion and basically came to the understanding that whatever
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situation their family is going to end up in, they have reached, or are on the cusp of reaching. i'm hoping she gave her blessing and said yeah, go back to work. >> both you have talked about the kind of event this is going to be, media event. i know christine, you have credentials -- you both have credentials to cover the event. christine you decided to get there even earlier than you planned once you found out tiger was going to be there. why? is this going to be that much of a zoo? >> i think so. i don't know what david thinks, but i'm going to get in on monday, as was my plan with my editors. while the atmosphere inside david describes so well as control and beautiful and it's pristine, on the outside, on washington road, that is going to be a mob scene. >> absolute circus. >> the hootie martha story of 2003, which i think is a big deal, no women members still, but that's going to look like a picnic compared to what we're going to see with the tabloids weight outside the gates. >> i predict there is going to be camera lenses poking out of
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every bush, every schlub. once you 2k3we9 into the grounds it will be pristine. >> but the players usually hold press conferences. >> absolutely. >> aren't they going to do that? >> this is something that started in the tiger era. before the journalists would approach the guys and make themselves available. when tiger woods came out, there were so many people that wanted this, the crush became press conferences. normally the top names will do something late monday afternoon, tuesday, wednesday, and start playing on thursday. we anticipate tiger will probably do something on tuesday afternoon. that's his tradition. but i wonder if he doesn't necessarily go in and have some type of open press conference before the masters, get all that stuff over with, and when he shows up at augusta national, it's all about the golf. i'm wondering if that will be is the tactic employed by him. >> quickly, guys, how is he going to play? he's had a lot of time off. how does he get his game back? >> that's the question. tiger, when he was missing a lot of time after his father passed away, he missed the cut at the next big major, the next u.s.
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open. i think tiger will be ready. but that doesn't mean he is going the win the tournament. and of course i know everyone in tv land wants to make sure that he makes the cut and plays on to the weekend. i imagine there will be a little rust. but tiger is still the best golfer in the world when he puts his mind to it. >> tiger woods has never broken 70 at a masters in the first round. his lowest score ever is 65. so i think a lot of people when he first comes out if he doesn't go lights out say wow, he is really going to be affected by this. i think he is going to get more and more comfortable every day he is at the event. i don't know if he is going to win, but i wouldn't be surprised if he improves steadily every day. >> david, great to have you here. christine, thank you very much. great to have you here. >> thank you. "larry king live" starts in just a few minutes. when we come back, we're going to tell you about the shocking violence against women around the world, how it has been talked about recently, and ideas about how to stop it, empowering women and girls. [ male announcer ] a good reputation
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we've come a long way, baby, or have we? empowering women worldwide is a priority for secretary of state hillary clinton who said recently at the united nations progress is coming, as long as women do their part. tina brown, founder and editor-in-chief of the daily is doing her part, especially this weekend. she had this extraordinary conference that was focused on empowering women and finding solutions, hearing people's stories, full disclosure, i was part of it. i had the opportunity to be part of. >> you did great.
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>> let me ask you this. has been a goal. empowering women was laid out as a goal set by 189 countries 15 years ago with a platform for action. we're going to educate and improve human rights and help care for women and girls around the world. what has happened? >> well, individually, enormously great efforts have been made. i mean, what was exciting about the weekend is we had these incredible women with their incredible stories doing these amazingly brave things there is this amazing woman in somaliland that has this maternity hospital that is training mid wives one at a time, and trying to get $60,000 to dig a well. and there is this incredible woman who ended cutting in parts of senegal by going village to village with this amazing woman with her telling the villagers that this is something, trying to cooperate them, trying to stop them from doing this. but there is a lot of terrible stuff happening that is getting no attention, particularly if there congo, where women are being raped, not just raped, but tortured in the most horrendous fashion, yet the world is kind
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of really doing nothing about it. one of the great speakers at the conference was this doctor from congo who said this is really sexual massacre that is happening. and nothing is happening about it. people are just standing by and letting it happen. so we were really trying to bring these voices together to say let's look outside our own country, just for a little bit. just for a moment, and see what terrible things are happening to women, and see what we can do to help the people who are trying to stop them happening. >> and i think what came out of that for a lot of people was putting a spotlight on it in many cases. are also, when you hear the horrific stories of rape, how it is used as a weapon, of trafficking of young women and girls there is also a stigma that in many cases is attached to these women victims. >> yes. >> because of the cultural issues. >> right. >> or the countries they come from. >> absolutely. they have the sense of shame after having these terrible things happen to them. instead of being able to proclaim the people who have done this, they have to hide it. what was great actually is we tried to focus on the people who are bringing solutions.
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when you talk about the human trafficking, we spotlighted this wonderful woman in india who is bringing girls out of trafficking and rehabbing them and getting them jobs. she made the point we should think about ways to help girls who have been through this experience and bring them into companies because they do have the stigma and the shame. not only are they trying to get over this terrible experience, they also feel they can't speak about anything and they feel they have this terrible shadow. and we have to basically encourage them and help them to get a new life. >> how do you get people who go to a conference like this, who hear these incredible stories to leave there, not just sort of inspired for the moment, but to leave there and to really want to do something? >> well, what is wonderful actually about the weekend is we've been deluged we mails from people who have connected up with each other at the conference. one of the great things, for instance, that came out of it was high pressure very generously gave $100,000 in product to a fantastic young woman who started a little school in her hometown in kenya where they don't have one


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