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visiting there. wearing a sheepskin outfit, fur hat and mittens. he was on a working trip, the kremlin made clear. but he took time out to explore the wilderness, to enjoy a cup of coffee there. to look at a horse. and feed a horse. and ride a horse. when i saw these pictures i was reminded of another photo shoot of putin and a horse it was apparently warmer when these pictures were taken. so warm that the prime minister was inspired to shed his shirt. there you have it, moscow's marlboro man. thank you for being a part of my show this week. i'll see you next week. sunday showdown. as journalists beer up for today's much-debated, much-delayed health care vote, will they credit president obama with a victory if democrats pass the bill. >> thank you, everybody! >> or play up the polarizing process? comeback kid. tiger woods will head from rehab
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to the masters. how will cbs and the rest of the media handle his return? penetrating politico. we go inside one of washington's hottest web applications to see how they slice and dice the news and try to win the morning. and the magazine and the myse mistress. did those picturers over shadow what she had to say? today is the day -- we think today is the day. after 14 months of front-page headlines, television reports, cable chatter, blog warfare, after 14 months of legislative sausage making, the democrats are trying to pass a hotly disputed health care bill. the debate begins two hours from now with nancy pelosi's team claiming they have the votes. a house plan to approve the senate version of the bill without a recorded vote by
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deeming it having passed. don't hold their feet to the fire and call them on these made-up processes that pelosi and others want to use right now, then things like this can be crammed down our throats. >> republicans are trying to make the case that the self-executing rule this demon pass rule they are trying to make the case that it's unconstitutional. they, themselves, have used it more than 200 times over the past 15 years. >> they won't even put their name on a bill. >> when not lying about the bill, they're attack the procedure. >> as president obama postponed an overseas trip that was to begin today, every journalist in town was doing the math. >> so far, by my count, there are 206 members of the house, democrats and republicans, who are already either no or leaning no. ten more and you reach the magic number of 216 and the thing dies. >> i need a whiteboard. joining us now to talk about the
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media's coverage of the health care debate, as we enter what could be the final hours, ryan lizzo, washington correspondent for the "new yorker magazine". >> amy holmes. chip reid, white house correspondent f correspondent, and even this morning there was conflicting reports about whether the democrats have the votes. are you skeptical? >> it's been a blast to cover. not frustrating. this is what we love, this roller coaster ride. the unpredictability of it all. the spin doming from the white house, the spin coming from the hill. you have some leaders saying we have the votes, others saying we don't have them yet. it's our job to figure out what that means. the people saying we have the votes, are not saying we have the votes, they're saying we're going to have the votes. the people you need watch for are people like james clyburn. they won't say they have the votes until they have to votes.
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viewers have to understand that you're like a house whip. you have to know where the votes are the media portrait has been owe bhbama and the democrats us odd measures to drag this bill across the line. is that fair. >> on the merits of the legislation, the individual parts are pretty popular, despite the declining poll there's for a while in the overall package. they realize that parliamentary procedure and the sauce tajmakitajmake i sausage making in congress, is always unpopular. they realized last summer that that was a much better strategy for them. so every opportunity they have made procedure and process very successfully into a negative for the democrats. >> but i've seen the media say time and again that this is, in the republican phrase a government takeover. and that it is an unpopular bill because they look at the top line numbers, more americans are against the passage of the bill than are for it, even though
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individual parts may be popular. >> that's the argument that the white house is making. getting back to the question you asked chip, i look at this story as political important. people love all of these details, lifting up the skirt of congress and seeing what's really going on. honestly it reminds me honestly of the recount in 2000. it reminds me of the democratic primary race where we basically were getting a civics lesson. ryan, you say -- you say that this is about process. brow social security and policy in this case are really interlinked. the fact this is such an unpopular bill is pushing democrats on the hill to use a process that flies in the face of what we understand to be the kind of school house rock -- >> i thought this might be a -- >> the problem is that the bill is getting more popular in the last month. >> but obama is becoming less popular. he's upside down in his approvals, 46 approve, 48
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disapprove. >> does the coverage reflect that the bill is becoming more popular. >> when the bill became upside down, i don't think the coverage reflected the -- that it's been inching up. >> and the process story swallowed everything else, because, you know -- i want to turn to you, ed henry. yesterday i flipped on the tv casually and saw president obama delivering a talk, a pep rally to democratic members of congress. after sitting through so many talk segments about this is a detached president, a cool president, i was struck by how emotional he was. >> do it for them. do it for people who are really scared right now, through no fault of their own. who played by the rules. did the right things. don't do it for me. don't do it for the democratic party. do it for the american people. they're the ones looking for
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action right now. >> was that an important moment or one of these fleeting moments on cable. >> i remember dana bash and i being on air and talking about how this was emotional. he was quoting lincoln, his political hero. you do still have to talk about the tactics. part of it is, though, as chip will tell you, the final summation is where you will get more emotional, you make that final case. i've been struck, in covering all these speeches over 14 months, about the fact that the person who is supposed to be the next great communicator after ronald reagan has not always found his voice in this debate. i think that's part of the reason why they had a hard time selling it. in the final stretch, with the chips down, the stakes raised so much, this president has found his voice. let me agree with amy about one thing, not the porn part but the process is policy part. if this demon pass thing was so wonderful, above-board, why was it that for several days this
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week, me, chip, savannah guthrie, we were pressing robert gibbs, do you support this or not? >> no, they ran away from it. >> there was actually -- there was actually a dispute between the house and the white house over this. the white house communication people were arguing with the communication people over in the house saying do we really want to -- >> the charge against the media is if you're not a junkie hanging on every turn of the dial on demon pass, reconciliation, is that the coverage increasingly has been about the horse race, the parliamentary maneuvering, the polls, and that the substance of the health care measure has gotten overshadowed if not lost. >> i think that's true recently. i know in doing my stories, i always try to get as much plain old substance in there as i can. >> we have a limited amount of time. >> how much can you do. if you have to cover that day's wrangling, it's hard. on this issue of demon pass, i'm not sure the democrats are this smart. if you look at it, the demon
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pass became this gigantic red herring and went away. the republicans spent days arguing on something that doesn't exist. >> the demon pass moved the goalpost. the argument used to be doing this through reconciliation undermined the democratic process, then the demon pass, now the republicans are saying we just want an up or down vote. which is what president obama was saying. what i love about demon pass is that the way you run the words dogt -- >> i have noticed that. >> this morning the new york times has a big tick tock, a reconstruction of how we got here. politico has the same one. they both say nancy pelosi saying she didn't want it watered down. >> reading between the lines, reading both pieces t seems like
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the pelosi folks decided this is her moment and that she needs to get credit. they want 9 sto i think the ying and yang on this debate all year has been nancy pelosi and rahm emanuel. and, you know, at the end of the day pelosi wants credit for accomplishing that. >> the morning after scott brown's election, i will mention dana bash again, she had hill sources, i had people in the administration and outside, we were reporting the morning after scott brown's victory rahm emanuel was calling around town saying can we do a scaled back bill? he wasn't pushing it but floating this idea of a weaker thing. and speaker pelosi was the chief person pushing it. even though it might look fluffy that her staff threw it out to the "new york times" and politico, it may be true. >> i wasn't arguing that it wasn't true, but there are many different versions of history. success has a thousand fathers. we were just talking about
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process, the majority vote. the media have led an absolute parade of republicans get on the air saying this is being shoved down the throat of the american people. for all the reconciliation t does take a majority vote in each chamber. >> may. this slaughter thing has been dropped. the pass rule. i would also point out that fox news is one of the few networks that has been reporting on the senators -- sorry, congressmen who changed their votes from yes to no. we have dennis kucinich saying i voted yes, but now i'm voting no. but they're not covering the media that goes the other way. so the white house and the hill is trying to make this inevitable -- >> everybody is reporting votes going both ways. >> i don't see the same fanfare. >> in general, fox new also cover the republican talking
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points better than most networks. i think fox pushed that more and emphasized that. that's what they do. >> as reporters, also, we're not in the business of pushing talking points on either side. it's our job to sort out the talking points on each side. >> and to sort out the claims of how many votes each side has. >> the story is that it's being -- the momentum is towards success not failure. it's right to concentrate on that more. >> if pelosi's team is right and they have the votes and this thing passes, will the press portray this in the next 48 hours as a huge and game-changing victory for president obama, or as a political liability because republic republicans will attack this even after it passes. >> we don't know. that's the bottom line. we don't know what's going to happen in the fall. we know they'll lose seats, we don't know if they'll lose more seats as result of health care reform or lose fewer seats. >> won't the journalistic focus
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shift, chip, from the battle which is something we all love do to the fact that it is now law and how is it going to work? will it actually help people or bankrupt the government? >> three things what is actually in here. cbs is planning a bunch of stories of what is really in this thing. number two, both sides of the debate on whether it hurts or helps the democrats in the fall. >> all right. let me get a break. faceoff with fox. the president sits down with brett baher. did the anchor interrupt obama just a a. little too much? insurance company.nt my auto policy's just getting a. little too much? so we build a policy to fit your budget. wow! the price gun. ♪ ah! wish we had this. we'd just tell people what to pay. yeah, we're the only ones that do. i love your insurance! bill?
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program that white house official anita gung launched the war on fox news, calling it an arm of the republican party, but it's a cable channel with plenty of viewers, so president obama invited news anchor brett baier to his place for an interview and things got contentious pretty quickly. if people vote yes, whatever form that takes that will be a vote for health care reform. >> but this monday -- >> let me finish -- if they lose
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their job, heaven forbid, they'll have more security. >> how can you -- you guarantee that they're not going to be -- they'll be able to keep their doctor -- >> you have to let me keep my answers. >> sir, i know you don't like to filibuster. >> i am trying to finish my answers, you keep interrupting. >> i apologize for interrupting you. i'm trying to get the most for our buck here. >> do you think brett baier interrupted too much? >> i looked at that interview. it was contentious. i think he did interrupt a little bit. but when did the press say we have to be puppies in the laps of the president. ask sam donaldson who became famous for yelling at presidents. i like the british model -- >> i don't think it's our goal to become famous. >> certainly to get the news, and i think brett did because he did interrupt so much -- >> i have to interrupt here because -- >> because he interrupted so much, that became the focus of the interview and not the
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substance of what president was saying. >> on these issues, i will side with the correspondent. maybe he interrupted him too much, maybe he was little rude. >> i don't think he was rude. i think he was civil. as the interview went on, i'm interrupting you now -- as the interview went on it seemed obama -- here's what was happening. brett baier wanted to talk about process. obama admitted the process was ugly, but he tried to get back to the substance of the health care bill. >> when you are the president of the united states, sit down with a reporter, the reporter can ask whatever he wants. there is nothing wrong with tough, contentious interviews. >> okay. now the liberal progress later posted some contrasting footage of brett baier interviewing president bush in the final weeks of his term. >> do you believe that there hasn't been a terrorist attack on u.s. soil in more than seven years because of the policies your administration has
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implemented? >> i believe the policies we worked with congress on to better protect america are paying off. >> now, the point in brett baier's favor, the president has a tendency to filibuster. you have a limited amount of time, the clock is ticking, you want to get your question in. >> the president started off with a filibuster right from the start. he was asked a question and went into his big speech on health care reform. >> including many things he's said many times. >> i look at what the white house was trying to do, did they accomplish it. >> fox may be big ratings on cable, but it's a small number of people who watched this interview from beginning to end what people got out of this interview is what you said earlier this week, what the people like is a president who is down their fighting in the arena and going after what he believes in here. he is finally doing with those speeches and with this. i think this was just to have an image out there for the country that, if he's even willing to go
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into enemy territory, as he considers it, to fight for what he believes in. all the substance of the interview it was about that one thing. he went in there and fought. >> though n fairness, brett baier is a news anchor, not bill o'reilly or glenn beck, but it's still fox news, which has been at odds with the president. >> we're going into the lions den, and we're taking on the president. there are other white house correspondents and anchors who has taken on the president. there have been other clashes. chip and i have done interviews with him where we faced the same time constraint. you have ten minutes, he gives two minute answers, you have five questions. if he holds the ball, there's trouble. but there's a fine line there. i think brett largely found that fine line. but i actually just saw him yesterday and told him to his face, i'll say it here as well, there were a couple of cases where brett had second and third follow ups before the president answered the second one. >> we are out of time.
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thank you very much for joining us. before we go to break, the "american idol" competition at abc's "this week" is over. the network picked christian amanpour to take over the sunday show that had been anchored by george stephanopoulos. it's an unorthodox choice because christian amanpour spent the last 12 of 14 years living in london and paris. she wants to give the program a more international flavor. one sign of progress with candy crowley at "state of the union" two of the five sunday talk shows are now hosted by women. coming up in the second half of "reliable sources." comeback kid. with tiger woods heading for the masters, will cbs and everyone else let him leave his tabloid scandal behind? backstage at politico. our cameras are there as one of washington's top websites maps out its week.
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it was four weeks ago that tiger woods stepped before the cameras and apologized for making a mess with his personal life with those many mistresses.
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he took no questions from the press and described golf as seconda seconda secondary. >> i do plan to return to golf one day, i just don't know when that day will be. >> we now know exactly when that day will be as a statement from the world's number one golfer was carried at the top of many newscasts. >> tonight, he fell from grace, now he begins the long climb back. tiger woods says he'll return to pro golf next month with the masters. >> he'll play in the masters next month. more than four months after the thanksgiving night car accident outside his home led to the unraveling of his personal life in a public way. >> sent to second collusion and rehab, now tiger woods announces his return to golf. >> after four months of hiding, tiger says he's ready for the comeback. >> the sports world, breathing a sigh of relief tonight. >> so how will cbs which is
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carrying the masters and other organizations handle the tournament? joining sus jim gray, correspondent for the golf channel, and christine brennan, a sports columnist and contributor to abc news. >> when cbs and espn airs the masters, will golf be the story or will tiger's sex scandal be the billing? >> golf will be the story that's what it is. it's a golf tournament. i'm sure they will touch on the scandal because it will be the news of the day. if there's more news to report, both of them are adept at handling it. >> christine brennan, if i can put up a new york daily news headline from the other day which was not about golf. best text he ever had. if there is very little discussion of tiger's rehab and personal problems, amid the golf whispers, won't some people view that as somewhat of a whitewash?
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>> sure. cbs covered the women's membership story in 2003 by really not covering it in the golf telecast. cbs sport is in business with augusta national and it's like the olympic coverage, where you won't get the greatest journalism. i wish jim gray was a part of the cbs coverage that would be different. but the reality is what we saw in 2003 was a test run. it was a kindergarten picnic compared to what we'll see with the craziness outside the gates at augusta national this time. i think it's a sports network that wants to cover sports, maybe their news side will cover some of the news. >> jim gray, if you were the lead anchor for the masters, and tiger won, which may or may not happen, obviously, you got a chance to interview him, he's putting on the green jacket, do you ask any questions about the scandal of just the winning putt? >> well, i think it has to be within the context of what's gone on if it didn't effect his game, obviously what's the point
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of talking about it at that time? there's a time and place for all of this stuff. i think if it's mentally distracting to him, if it does effect his game in any way, he won't win. but if he wins, then you're talking about it, the country didn't tune in necessarily to see about his sex scandal. that's between him and his wife and how ever he chooses to handle it going forward and his sponsors. yes there has to be some sort of question about it, about his behavior, i don't think that is what predominates the conversation. it would have to be about that. >> i disagree with that. i think the ratings will be huge. one reason that people will be tuning in who are not necessarily big golf fans is because of this tawdry drama that surrounded him. >> jim is a great journalist, he will ask the tough questions. we have seen that before. i would love to be right there with you. i think there's a way do this. there's the story of the fall from frays here which is huge. this is not just about the
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mistresses. i have no idea nor does jim nor you have an idea of how many mistresses there are. >> i lost count. >> the texts, i don't care. i care about this cultural sports story of a fall from grace of this incredible icon. within that framework there are lots of questions to ask. also the issue of performance-enhancing drugs. dr. gallea, i would like to ask tiger about his relationship with him. tiger said, of course, he was not involved with performance-enhancing drug use. those are questions we need to ask tiger. >> jim gray what about christine's earlier point that cbs is in, effect, in partner ship with the major league golf tour, professional golf association in carrying a prestigious tournament like the masters and will soft pedal some of this in a way that another network that did not have this deal would not? >> well, i think that everybody who would be in this circumstance would handle it the exact same way. the network is involved and has been involved for more than 50
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year now on a one-year contract. so augusta national contract is much different than dealing with the national football league, major league baseball or the pga tour in and of itself. it's because it is that one-year contract and everybody covets to have it. that's why golf will be the subject matter that is spoken most about. however sean mcmahon nnnis, the president of cbs sports, if there's news to cover he will cover it. he will not just pretend the audience doesn't know what is going on. and pill l billy payne is a vert man. there was a bomb that went off, it cost lives, and he did not say let's not talk about this bomb that went off. he knew it had to be discussed. if there is something that needs to be discussed, cbs will cover the news as well.
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>> jim, do you think the media as a whole have gone way overboard on the tiger woods story and have intruded into his personal life and pumped it up and sensationalized it? or is it an actual fall from grace, as christine says that needs to be covered as huge story? >> well, christine is right, and you're right. and it is excessive. i mean, there's a lot of things going on, as your program has pointed out already this morning. >> health care. >> tiger woods has gotten a lot of attention. he will be judged at the end of the day as a golfer. yes, a lot of this is very unpleasant, it's disappointed a lot of people. a lot of people who put their faith in tiger woods as more than a golfer had it misplaced. he has apologized for that wants to move on with his life. he will be out of golf for 144 days. so he wants to get back to golf, dwrsh
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yes, it's been overcovered and overanalyzed. >> yes. it's been overcovered, but within the frame of a sports story, that's how i look at this there are lots of issues here. the golf is a huge issue. we will be covering that. i would say those of us who are not in business with augusta national will be a better business covering it. a lot of the writers want to get into the lottery to cover that. there's a lot of issues there. >> there's the situation with journalists wanting to get on the air and write about this we talked about president obama's interview with fox news. here's another question from brett baier. let's roll that. >> you know, tiger has acknowledged that he betrayed his family, and, you know,
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that's a personal issue that he's got to work out. i still think he'll be a terrific golfer. >> when the president of the united states is weighing n it's a big cultural issue, is it not? >> yes. and tiger woods has been to the oval office to see president obama. and president obama is a huge golfer. i think he struck it right. it's an issue he will have to resolve with his wife. he has let a lot of people down. he's acknowledged that so far. let's see how he moves forward. there's a lot of trampling on tiger woods this is all self-induced. a lot of it -- all of it he has brought upon himself. let's see if he can dig himself out. let's see if he will lead the life he said he will lead. >> when tiger woods said at that stage managed apology that he did not know when he was going to return to golf. looking back, do you think that was honest? >> no i don't. we have no idea, but it was misleading. he says i will return to golf one day. i don't know when that day will
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be. in fact it will be in 25 days. i've said that. i wrote a column about that. >> you called it a fraud. >> i did. i called it a fraud. it allows us to question every word he said. i would love to be wrong. i hope he's changed. i hope -- it's definitely a great story to cover. i think we are allowed to look at every word he says. >> it's a great story to cover and a story not over. thank you very much for stopping by this sunday morning. up next, inside the newsroom. we sit in on an editor's meeting at politico as the website plots its health care coverage. you see the making of the journalistic sausage. 
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. as the health care debate headed into the final stretch, journalists have been scrambliig saying there's something new to be covered. that's certainly true of politico. we paid a visit to the newsroom the other day and brought our cameras into a meeting. there was a brainstorming session going on with top reporters and editors. >> a month ago i believe, we were on the verge of writing a
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story that comprehensive health care is dead, will never happen. i'm glad we. >> did a month after it seemed dead, it's back to -- >> the trick is to keep it tightly focused on pelosi. the post and everybody else is doing the much broader tick tock from beginning to end. if we can rope it around here and especially around the final 72 hours. >> where are we? are we going to tackle alex's story? did you hear about this? suggestion -- alex, you explain it we had some discussion about that. i don't think it's assigned yet. >> sure. the idea behind that was just, you know, with a matter of 72 hours or whatever it is left until a vote, to take a look at the various groups of people who are sort of ostentatiously making claims about the number of vote stles, or the number of votes they will have or the consequences a vote will have. >> i view it as the health care drama queens story. how is it that, you know kucinich, the most progressive guy in the house had us all waiting to see how he would play
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out in a press conference today? come on. he played it gloriously. there are others -- >> air force one trip. >> air force one. you have him, alan grayson -- the health care drama queens. >> i like that. >> moment of fame for these guys. you know, dennis kucinich ran twice for president, hasn't been heard from since. >> what can we get out of the white house that's not -- that's different from what everyone is looking at this. everybody will be looking at the rahm prism. >> my sense talking yesterday was like, you know, you can't shake a stick at any cabinet member calling every member of the house multiple times, enough with the calls all right. they're not helping anymore. >> is there someone that we could take and actually like who
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is the caller? could you examine who matters? do you call you are getting a call? which calls actually matter? which are considered overkill, and which are quite frankly are an insult? like the transportation secretary -- >> who would be great to talk to about this is marjorie margolis mezvinsky who got a call from clinton and was forced to walk the plank. she got that call -- >> she lost. >> she cast it any way to save the presidency. >> after the vote who are the plank walkers. >> or do dead men walking. who sort of sintd their own political death warrant the next day by voting for this bill? >> who could potentially do that? altmire? who is on that list? who are some democrats that could vote for it and if they vote for it they very well could
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be toast. >> the western pennsylvanians, i think. some of the midwesterners out of indiana, maybe, that -- some of the statewide candidates, house members who are trying for statewides, it won't help them. >> it is obscure first and second-term folks that you wouldn't know but come from districts that won, in part, because obama was on the ballot, and now because of this are behind the eight ball. and those folks who have done the triple lending. voted for cap and trade, voted for stimulus and now health care. >> some of those stories they talked about were very solid. but politico also suffered an embarrassment this week as a leaked democratic memo on health care, they reported and posted a leaked democratic memo on health care without saying it came from republican sources. when democrats called it bogus, politico said it followed an old rule in journalism by taking it
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we know what was topic a, b, and c on the talk shows this morning. here is candy crowley to break it down. if you didn't want to talk about health care, today was not the day to tune in just hours before a vote, house democrats were talking about victory but with varying degrees of confidence we happy worriers. we are so proud of the democratic caucus that we will be a part of history joining roosevelt's passage of social security. lyndon johnson's passage of medicare and now barack obama's passage of health care reform. >> you have the 260? >> we have the votes. >> there are still members looking at it, but we think there will be 216 votes. >> we don't have a hard 216 now. i couldn't tell you which 216 members we will have, but i
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believe firmly we'll have 216 members. this may end up to be a historic day but it will not be the last day. the house changes to health care have to be approved by the senate, and senate republicans say they have dozens upon order know, the point is we're going to help the american people understand by these amendments what is in the bill and why they are right when they think it's a bad bill. >> and if senate republicans succeed in making any of those changes, adding or subtracting from the house bill, guess where it goes next? >> thinks that this is only going to be a one-time deal today in the house i think is grossly mistaken. >> so it will be -- so enjoy this historic day because we have other historic days to come is the bottom line here. >> you know it's fascinating to
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see the split between john larson on your show saying we've got the 216 and there was steny hoyer and debbie wauserman saying we're kind of close, we think we might have it. that didn't fill me with confidence as far as what the democrats think that they have got. >> i think what should give people confidence is that they have called the vote. if we get to 9:00 and vote isn't called, i think then we'd have to go back and say did we have it. but i think larson is right, i think they do have it, i think they're just back checking pulses again, going, okay, you're with us, right? i think it's that kind of thing going on. >> now, you last week said the democrats are going to get to 216, it's a question of which wavering members will have to take a vote they don't want to vote. >> yes. i think they'll still get 216. i think you'll see by and large when the no votes come, you'll see they're from swing districts.
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>> in other words, people will be given a pass by the party to vote no? >> in some caseses not like you've got a bye this time but it is understood. there are those who say i will be 35 you have to have me there, but i need to -- my district wants me to vote no and they will try their best to accommodate that. >> i wish we had a transcript of some of those conversations. >> me too. >> candy crowley, thanks very much. still to come, the other woman speaks. are the media taking john edwards' mistress seriously or just salivating over her gq photo spread. way i can take care of my engine? one a day men's -- a complete multivitamin for my overall health. plus now it supports my heart health and helps maintain healthy blood pressure. [ engine revs ] whoa. [ man ] kinda makes your heart race, huh? sir? finding everything okay? i work for a different insurance company. my auto policy's just getting a little too expensive. with progressive, you get the "name your price" option, so we build a policy to fit your budget. wow! the price gun.
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it was almost like a scientific experiment. for more than two years everyone in the media has talked about this woman and quoted everyone else talking about her and shown her picture in the "national enquirer." so how did the news business react when we finally had a firsthand account from rielle hunter. her interview with gq magazine got a masterful media rollout with dual exclusives in the "new york post" and "washington post" and a network skup on the "today" show. >> she said most of john edwards' mistakes was because he feared the wrath of elizabeth. >> reporter: that would be the same john edwards who told "nightline" the child couldn't possibly be his. >> i need to ask about probably the most controversial allegation, which is that a report has been published that the baby of miss hunter is your
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baby. true? >> not true. not true. published in a supermarket tabloid, but, no, that's absolutely not true. >> reporter: elizabeth edwards talked about the impact on her marriage when she wrote her book. >> i only knew about a single night. a single moment of weakness. >> reporter: and former edwards' aide, andrew young, talked about how he pretended to be the father of hunter's baby when he was promoting his book. when hunter broke her silence with gq, some question whether it was a news story at all. >> should the media even cover this todd resituation? >> reporter: but that didn't stop him and everyone else from showing the gq pictures, you know, where the magazine had her pose provocatively in a bed, surrounded by her daughter's toys. would gq have done the interview without the photo shoot? who knows. >> we've all been talking about it among the producers this afternoon about how grotesque this whole thing is. she's there showing herself as
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sort of like a sex kitten holding the kid's toys. >> reporter: hunter had second thoughts about the pantsless shoot and called barbara walters, in tears. >> she found them repulsive. when i asked, well, if that was the case, then why did you pose the way you did? she said that she trusted mark suliger, whom she said is a brilliant photographer and she, quote, went with the flow. >> that doesn't make any sense, rielle. you were right there when they pointed the camera at you, honey. >> reporter: here's what got much less attention. rielle hunter comes across at pretty sharp, not some starry-eyed bimbo. yes, she talks about how edwards is integrated and living a life of truth and has grown in awareness and humility and she doesn't seem terribly sympathetic towards the cancer-stricken elizabeth. but it's clear that hunter has shared many confidences with the former senator. she said she spoke to him all night from the hospital after the baby was born. and their relationship seems to be quite current. >> what most people will remember from this episode is
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gq's specialty, a sexy photo spread. but there were words too, that any fair journalistic appraisal of rielle hunter should take into account. now, before we go, jon stewart had a thought. he was channelling glenn beck of fox news. here's a little bit of that. >> it's not that believing, i'm not saying this, i'm not saying that believing there should be a minimum standard for how much lead can be in our paint might lead to the government having the right to sterilize and kill jews. i'm not saying that that might be the case. >> well, you know, you want to be on the daily show but not necessarily just like that. that is it for this edition of "reliable sources." join us next sunday morning 11:00 a.m. eastern for another critical look at the media. if you miss any part of our program check out our pod cast at cast and check out our show page on facebook as well.


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